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lekcin 06-06-2010 7:50 PM

HK 91 and MP5 build from flats
 
Anyone have a source for HK91/G3 and /Or MP5 parts sets? I have access to flats but need to know availability of pars sets. Also, does anyone know the current regs as to when a flat becomes a firearm and any info on avoiding the once a machinegun always a machinegun vs. semiauto build requirements?

sava6e 06-07-2010 12:14 PM

the flat has to have a shelf welded onto it thus making it impossible to install a FA trigger set, plus mods to the bolt carrier

Z ME FLY 06-07-2010 12:59 PM

I would probably look up the MP5 BP they did awhile ago. A lot of good info on the process.

CYCOVILLE 06-07-2010 2:11 PM

Here is the link to the best build tutorial.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=274354
As stated before, HK 91 kits are almost impossible to find.
CETME kits are out there bravo 5 is where i got mine. Good quality kits and he makes barrels for a good price.

lekcin 06-07-2010 7:34 PM

Thanks for the inputs. Sound like I might need to find another project. Anyone interested in some flats?

lekcin 06-07-2010 7:41 PM

Flat anyone
 
Thanks for the replies. Looks like I might need to find another project. Anyone interested in any HK91 or MP5 flats?

bollero 06-07-2010 7:52 PM

tell me about it.. there pricey my MP5SD cost me $2400

sava6e 06-07-2010 9:20 PM

you could build a cetme for under 500 thats pretty cheap considering a semi auto .308 rifle

CYCOVILLE 06-07-2010 10:51 PM

+1 for building a CETME. Put on HK furniture and no one will know the difference.;)

bollero 06-09-2010 11:21 AM

PM sent

Q 06-09-2010 2:35 PM

The owner of ORF passed away at a young age not to long ago..
I think those flats are collectors items now.

CYCOVILLE 06-09-2010 8:48 PM

SHHHHHHH Q,

bollero 06-09-2010 9:24 PM

that's right shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! !!!!

CYCOVILLE 06-09-2010 10:10 PM

besides, they sold the machinery to stamp the receivers. Someone is going to start making them.
And the way you jacked up that receiver at the last build....... pathetic:D

Q 06-10-2010 1:54 AM

I meant to make the door stop and the ash tray.:D

CYCOVILLE 06-10-2010 10:56 AM

PTO wants to use the jacked up parts into a semiauto lamp

Peter W Bush 06-10-2010 11:06 AM

I would be so in for an HK build party!!!

Q 06-10-2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYCOVILLE (Post 4430880)
PTO wants to use the jacked up parts into a semiauto leg lamp

fixed it for you.:D

CYCOVILLE 06-10-2010 4:19 PM

:rofl2: Yes sir, it was a LEG lamp
Peter WB BOLLERO is in the process of putting together a build. Find his thread

Ding126 06-10-2010 4:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sava6e (Post 4412395)
the flat has to have a shelf welded onto it thus making it impossible to install a FA trigger set, plus mods to the bolt carrier

The shelve only allows semi auto. F/A uses the push pin

Celicaslave 06-29-2010 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredieusa (Post 4410690)
Good luck finding complete HK kits complete for building. They were dried up long ago. The ones available now are on the boards or GB. Some vendors do have the MP5 but its outrageous. As a personal choice i would rather go with the new Turkish MKE imports.

Even the contract G3 complete kits are drying up. You can mix and match by gathering parts from all over. RobertRTG and HKParts are two good sources with many choices. I believe there are still CETME available, maybe without the original barrel.

Flat becoming a receiver. general consensus is that as soon as it is folded/bent, it is a legal firearm. That means you cannot ship to just anyone for welding and such.

Good luck and welcome.

You still need to fill out the appropriate ATF form and have the stamp in your possession before you can even begin to build the receiver. Then, as stated by fredie, you still need to find all the parts. Check out the pictures on Turner Fabrications' website http://ensdesignstudios.com/T2/index.html. You can see that there is a whole lot more welding involved than it initially seems. Make sure that you or whomever you get to weld up your build is an experienced TIG welder. As you may have guessed, I too have been researching an HK94 build. I'm thinking it will just be easier (and cheaper) to buy a CA Legal one from Vector, Investment Grade Firearms, or Turner Fabrications.

chiz 06-29-2010 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celicaslave (Post 4533261)
You still need to fill out the appropriate ATF form and have the stamp in your possession before you can even begin to build the receiver.

No you don't. You can bend the flat when ever you want and you don't have to do any paper work.

WhatsTCP 06-29-2010 9:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiz (Post 4533383)
No you don't. You can bend the flat when ever you want and you don't have to do any paper work.

this, unless you plan to sell it then that's another story

totenkopf 06-29-2010 2:07 PM

old link


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