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Zedrek 06-26-2013 1:10 PM

Classic has Chinese SKS'
 
Classic Arms has Chinese SKS' for $320 pr $340 for hand select.
http://www.classicfirearms.com/c-r-eligible/chicomsks

Bobby Ricigliano 06-26-2013 1:14 PM

I was just about to post that! Get em while they're hot!

spb_la 06-26-2013 1:35 PM

Thanks, OP! Got me yet another SKS:)

gotshotgun? 06-26-2013 1:38 PM

What say the collective? Should SKS newbs jump on this deal?

Armistice 06-26-2013 1:45 PM

Damn. I'd much rather have a Russian SKS

SVT-40 06-26-2013 1:58 PM

These particular "Chinese" C&R guns have an interesting history. Very early production. Many of the parts have Soviet proofs.....

They were stored in a so called "neutral" country for 20 years and thus were allowed as C&R's...They were however imported many years ago by Century.

Guess where they were before they arrived in said "neutral" country???

SKSer45 06-26-2013 2:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVT-40 (Post 11676976)
These particular "Chinese" C&R guns have an interesting history. Very early production. Many of the parts have Soviet proofs.....

They were stored in a so called "neutral" country for 20 years and thus were allowed as C&R's...They were however imported many years ago by Century.

Guess where they were before they arrived in said "neutral" country???

What is Albania? :D

Bobby Ricigliano 06-26-2013 2:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotshotgun? (Post 11676792)
What say the collective? Should SKS newbs jump on this deal?

If you have a FFL03, then definitely. I ordered several of them. Some were beat to hell, others were just dirty. Some had minor pitting or extremely light surface rust. However, all of them cleaned up well and all of them were great shooters and 100% reliable.

Timm24 06-26-2013 2:18 PM

Wish I had my ffl03

SVT-40 06-26-2013 2:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKSer45 (Post 11677039)
What is Albania? :D

Nope!!!!

Albania was the "neutral" country

Bobby Ricigliano 06-26-2013 2:24 PM

It is very hard not to buy a few more of these. I love SKS rifles more than any other firearm. If I was not tapped out from buying a Romy (finally) and a few Mausers I'd be in for two.

nubrun 06-26-2013 2:25 PM

I just bought one... I have decided that Calguns is bad for my bank account...

North86 06-26-2013 2:27 PM

Is there a discount for C&R FFL holders? Just curious.

Bobby Ricigliano 06-26-2013 2:32 PM

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Originally Posted by North86 (Post 11677208)
Is there a discount for C&R FFL holders? Just curious.

The discount is that they let you buy one directly. Without the C&R You can't get one without middlemen and extra fees, etc.

omnitravis 06-26-2013 2:35 PM

Awww yea!
Got my first SKS.

eagle eye 06-26-2013 2:38 PM

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Originally Posted by omnitravis (Post 11677282)
Man, I am trying to get my buddy with a C&R to order a couple, I really want one.

That will be illegal.

Bobby Ricigliano 06-26-2013 2:51 PM

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Originally Posted by eagle eye (Post 11677300)
That will be illegal.

Yup... I never understand all the shucking and jiving people go to to try to get these C&R guns. If you are eligible to buy a gun you are eligible to get a FFL03.

Armistice 06-26-2013 3:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nubrun (Post 11677193)
I have decided that Calguns is bad for my bank account...

Agreed

This site is the reason I'm looking into an SKS, M39, and possibly an M44, lol

Who needs to pay rent?

microwaveguy 06-26-2013 5:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nubrun (Post 11677193)
I just bought one... I have decided that Calguns is bad for my bank account...

Well as I reached for my wallet it collapsed on the floor and I had to give it CPR.

I just had a $600+ car bill yesterday so I'll have to think about these ........ and the century T53's :D

bohoki 06-26-2013 5:19 PM

if you don't have one get one they are very durable

omnitravis 06-26-2013 5:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eagle eye (Post 11677300)
That will be illegal.

How is him selling me a rifle illegal?
I don't have one because I haven't gotten one yet. I plan on it.

NOTABIKER 06-26-2013 5:55 PM

i bought one from the turners batch about 4 months ago, i was disappointed in it. it was a 1958 with machined parts and no rust. but that was about it. the stock looked like DO DO.

ogarcia_02 06-26-2013 6:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eagle eye (Post 11677300)
That will be illegal.

Why would it be illegal? Unless he is a prohibited person what is the difference between his buddy selling him one and the people that buy a crate of mosins and had pick the best ones and sell the rest?

Zedrek 06-26-2013 6:13 PM

What's with people not getting their own FFL 03? It's real easy and cheap. $30 for three years.

gotshotgun? 06-26-2013 6:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ogarcia_02 (Post 11678887)
Why would it be illegal? Unless he is a prohibited person what is the difference between his buddy selling him one and the people that buy a crate of mosins and had pick the best ones and sell the rest?

Regarding the law, I can sum it up in one word... Intent.

0321jarhead 06-26-2013 6:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVT-40 (Post 11677169)
Nope!!!!

Albania was the "neutral" country

Canada

BruinGuy 06-26-2013 6:18 PM

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Originally Posted by omnitravis (Post 11678615)
How is him selling me a rifle illegal?
I don't have one because I haven't gotten one yet. I plan on it.

Well you had better get that application sent in ASAP because come January 1 it will be a lot less useful.

As far as these Chinese SKS rifles go I think they're great...even at $350 they're a good deal. I got two back in November...one handpick that is very nice overall, and one that had great metal but only about 60% bluing left and a beat up stock. I refinished the stock (it had to be done) and now that is my shooter. And boy is it fun to shoot! It's no bench rifle but will rattle steel plates at 100 yards all day long. All milled steel and a chrome lined barrel...it is a solid piece. Not the prettiest but exactly what I wanted.

You really can't miss with these...get one now and if you don't like it sell it in a year for an easy $100 profit.

SVT-40 06-26-2013 6:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 0321jarhead (Post 11678967)
Canada

Nope...

omnitravis 06-26-2013 6:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotshotgun? (Post 11678938)
Regarding the law, I can sum it up in one word... Intent.

Can you please explain? Intent to what? Shoot my rifles?
I have no idea what you guys are talking about, people sell C&R guns all the time I thought?
I have bought three before from him, I saw people buying them at the last C&R shoot.

BruinGuy 06-26-2013 6:28 PM

I'll bite... Iraq?

BruinGuy 06-26-2013 6:37 PM

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Originally Posted by omnitravis (Post 11679068)
Can you please explain? Intent to what? Shoot my rifles?
I have no idea what you guys are talking about, people sell C&R guns all the time I thought?
I have bought three before from him, I saw people buying them at the last C&R shoot.

You have to separate the two things. It is perfectly legit for an 03 Ffl, or for that matter anyone, to sell a 50 year old C&R rifle face to face, cash and carry.

It is not legal for an 03 Ffl to purchase a rifle with the intention of selling it to someone. If this is done for someone in particular it is a straw purchase, and if it is done to resell for a profit such as via the marketplace, it is dealing without a license.

It seems fuzzy to some, because some collectors will purchase multiples of a rifle to choose the best one and then sell off the others. This is okay so long as it is done for purposes of "improving the collection" and isn't done too often. The law is vague about how often is permissible and has some apparent grey areas, but what you're talking about isn't grey area...it's against the law. To be honest your friend is taking most of the risk in these transactions, and if he's a real friend you should let him know this.

MssrElegante has a useful post in this thread about C&R rifle transactions: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=782635

omnitravis 06-26-2013 6:41 PM

Thank you for actually explaining, I will talk to him. I assume he knows because he went through the process of getting the license, he seems pretty knowledgeable, but, that means nothing I guess. Better to be safe than sorry.

barbasol 06-26-2013 6:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omnitravis (Post 11679068)
Can you please explain? Intent to what? Shoot my rifles?
I have no idea what you guys are talking about, people sell C&R guns all the time I thought?
I have bought three before from him, I saw people buying them at the last C&R shoot.

It's called a straw purchase. Your friend buying solely to sell to you. I he buys one for himself and decides he doesn't want it anymore and you decide to buy it, we'll then, happy day. Either way I wouldn't be posting about it on the interweb

gotshotgun? 06-26-2013 6:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruinGuy (Post 11679140)
You have to separate the two things. It is perfectly legit for an 03 Ffl, or for that matter anyone, to sell a 50 year old C&R rifle face to face, cash and carry.

It is not legal for an 03 Ffl to purchase a rifle with the intention of selling it to someone. If this is done for someone in particular it is a straw purchase, and if it is done to resell for a profit such as via the marketplace, it is dealing without a license.

It seems fuzzy to some, because some collectors will purchase multiples of a rifle to choose the best one and then sell off the others. This is okay so long as it is done for purposes of "improving the collection" and isn't done too often. The law is vague about how often is permissible and has some apparent grey areas, but what you're talking about isn't grey area...it's against the law. To be honest your friend is taking most of the risk in these transactions, and if he's a real friend you should let him know this.

MssrElegante has a useful post in this thread about C&R rifle transactions: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=782635

Thanks for the excellent explanation. I didn't have the time earlier to explain.

Lurch762 06-26-2013 7:30 PM

Get them while you can, last I checked, they had 304 left.

WASR10 06-26-2013 7:38 PM

Well damn. I guess my G21 will have to wait a couple months... can't pass this up.

mievil 06-26-2013 7:48 PM

304 left? Holy cow they got a lot in. I didn't realize there were that many being shipped in to a single company. I wonder what their cost was? Always makes me wonder what sort of money these companies are throwing around, and how much their shipping container full of rifles cost to deliver.

BrokerB 06-26-2013 7:52 PM

3 more shipped. Funny when I pull up my zip code for license I see another guys. Zach.. are you here? I see both our home addresses.. kind of funny

BruinGuy 06-26-2013 7:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mievil (Post 11679685)
304 left? Holy cow they got a lot in. I didn't realize there were that many being shipped in to a single company. I wonder what their cost was? Always makes me wonder what sort of money these companies are throwing around, and how much their shipping container full of rifles cost to deliver.

Century is one of the big importers of surplus arms and ammo; they sell to a lot of retailers. I'm sure they're making a tidy profit on these even at whatever their wholesale price is.

SVT-40 06-26-2013 7:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruinGuy (Post 11679069)
I'll bite... Iraq?

Nope....


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