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Paladin
04-29-2008, 4:26 PM
Don't feel too bad or too discouraged -- IIRC, passing "Shall Issue" was almost a decade long legislative fight in several mid-western states and this was only Iowa's first attempt.

Heller might speed things up for the few states that aren't "Shall Issue" or better ("Vermont Carry").

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http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=3879
Iowa Legislative Wrap-Up

Tuesday, April 29, 2008


On Friday, April 26, the Iowa General Assembly adjourned for the 2008 legislative session. Unfortunately, with this being an election year, legislators chose not to move forward on two important pro-Second Amendment and hunting-related bills.

After being co-sponsored by over 40 legislators and passed by the House Public Safety Committee by a vote of 18-3, House File 2613 failed to pass this year after being held in the House Ways & Means Committee. HF2613 sought to modify Iowa's concealed handgun law to make Iowa a “shall-issue” state. During the final day of session, State Representative Clel Baudler (R-58) brought HF 2613 forward as an amendment to the final bill which was defeated after being voted “non-germane” on the House floor.

House File 2440 would have required an officer of the Department of Natural Resources to issue a certificate of completion of the hunter safety and ethics education course for members of the armed forces on active duty or who served in the armed forces at anytime so long as they were discharged under honorable conditions, are non-ambulatory, and are accompanied by a person who is at least 18. HF 2440 failed to pass after it was held in the Senate Natural Resource Committee.

A pro-hunting bill, Senate File 2230, passed the General Assembly this year and was signed by Governor Chet Culver (D) on Tuesday, April 8. This legislation authorizes the issuance of nonresident turkey and deer hunting licenses to people with physical disabilities or a terminal illness. The person is not required to complete the hunter safety and ethics education course if a person 18 years of age or older with a hunting license is accompanying the person.

Please feel free to contact the NRA Political Victory Fund to see where candidates in the upcoming election stand on Second Amendment and hunting issues as we continue to keep Iowa’s proud firearm and hunting heritage safe for generations to come. For candidate ratings and endorsements, please call the NRA-ILA Grassroots Division at (800) 392-VOTE (8683) or visit www.NRAPVF.org.

CCWFacts
04-29-2008, 4:47 PM
That is a bummer. I thought that one was going to pass.

Iowa has the joy of being a "divided and conquered" state like CA. The people in the pro-gun regions can get theirs, and the people in the anti-gun regions have streets which are blissfully free of guns and crime, and the people who want CCWs but happen to live in the regions of peace and harmony are, unfortunately, out of luck.

yellowfin
04-29-2008, 5:22 PM
The difference between Iowa and CA is that the offending legislators who opposed it will likely be removed and a few of the opposing sheriffs will be yanked as well. They don't have the protective advantage of severe gerrymandering locking them in office. It will pass next time around. The votes were even there this time, but 3 people were pressured to conveniently disappear when the vote came around.

Paladin
04-29-2008, 5:36 PM
The difference between Iowa and CA is that the offending legislators who opposed it will likely be removed and a few of the opposing sheriffs will be yanked as well. They don't have the protective advantage of severe gerrymandering locking them in office.Remember, gerrymandering does NOT affect sheriffs' elections. That should give us hope for change in 2010 IF our side is smart, active and exploits this fact.

Paladin
04-30-2008, 4:15 AM
Once Iowa passes "Shall Issue," we can tell people who think "Shall Issue" is too extreme that from the Mississippi River on the east to the Pacific Ocean on the west, every state other than California is "Shall Issue."


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Paladin
04-30-2008, 4:47 AM
Similarly, we in the PRK, should be organizing (thru our local NRA Members' Councils?), to take as many CA counties to Will Issue as possible by replacing "Arbitrary & Capricious Issue" sheriffs with Will Issue ones in the 2010 sheriffs' elections. This just takes political acumen and time, money, and manpower.

IMO, in 2010 we should try to win every sheriffs race in the state other than the coastal counties from Marin south to the border and the counties that abut the Bay or the Delta. Taking those other counties "green" will be a huge win. The anti sheriffs will then feel more political pressure (from their own residents due to the eventual use and reporting of out-of-county CCWers successfully using their guns to defend their lives in those anti counties) and legal pressure from TBJ (not to mention Heller). Basically, it is doing within CA what the NRA has done within the USA -- a slow, steady political advance that isolates the hard-core anti strongholds (which are subject continued TBJ legal attacks). Then, in 2014, we should attack some anti strongholds where we have a good chance of winning. Repeat as necessary every 4 years until victorious locally or via Sacto legislatively.

Of course, if Heller goes our way in a big way, things could go our way a lot faster and easier.

The image is from the TBJ website. Note Fresno should now be "green."

http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/cccw/images/calcounties.gif

Shane916
04-30-2008, 7:37 AM
On Friday, April 26, the Iowa General Assembly adjourned for the 2008 legislative session. Unfortunately, with this being an election year, legislators chose not to move forward on two important pro-Second Amendment and hunting-related bills.

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The 26th was on Saturday. How dare they mess with my birthday!

DParker
04-30-2008, 11:23 AM
The image is from the TBJ website. Note Fresno should now be "green."

http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/cccw/images/calcounties.gif


Madera should be very bright green.