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KIDRR
04-27-2008, 7:06 PM
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=270

I'll be mainly shooting match ammo out of it. I want something I can get head shots on squirrels at 200yards ++

Blacktail 8541
04-27-2008, 7:19 PM
Get the 20". The 24" is very cumbersom and will not give any advantage at 200 yds. Barrel length has nothing to do with being able to make a head shot on anything. The only thing it will do; is to help control movement with the extra weight in the offhand position.

Fjold
04-27-2008, 7:53 PM
Both of them are barrel heavy in the extreme and the balance is horrible. But the 20" isn't as bad as the 24". If you're shooting off the bench or prone off a bipod they're alright.

You can do like the highpower shooters and weight the butt to make them balance better but then they weigh 18 lbs.

Solidsnake87
04-27-2008, 10:32 PM
Get the predator persuit for what you want. You'll get a 20" match 1:8 barrel thats a thinner profile than the varminters. I have one myself. Its a wonderful upper.

KIDRR
04-28-2008, 12:15 AM
Get the predator persuit for what you want. You'll get a 20" match 1:8 barrel thats a thinner profile than the varminters. I have one myself. Its a wonderful upper.

Link??? Couldn't seem to find it.


I should have said that other recommendations are welcome :)

aplinker
04-28-2008, 2:20 AM
If you're serious about 200-250yd shots, then I'd push you toward a 16" bull barrel.

It will give extreme accuracy and plenty of velocity, without becoming cumbersome. The extra stiffness over the 20" will reap rewards of tighter groupings. Keep in mind that a 20" barrel really only comes into play beyond 300-400++ yds...

Solidsnake87
04-28-2008, 2:57 AM
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=271

Just cruise RRA my friend. lol. Its a great upper. With good ammo I easily group at .3 MOA at 100 yards. Very light and very practical for hunting while also giving you the length for longer shots.

tenpercentfirearms
04-28-2008, 5:43 AM
Having had all of these in my shop (they are just on order), I would pick the 20" Predator Pursuit over the 16" Varmint. The 20" Predator Pursuit weighs 3 ounces more than the 16" Varmint. I would rather have the 4" extra inches over the 3 ounces.

Solidsnake87
04-28-2008, 10:27 AM
Exactly!

apbrian112
04-28-2008, 10:37 AM
has anybody gotten their mitts on a coyote upper from RRA? how does that compare to the predator upper?

mds2004
04-28-2008, 10:45 AM
has anybody gotten their mitts on a coyote upper from RRA? how does that compare to the predator upper?

Not sure how it compares, but my buddy bought one from Wes and loves it.

dbode
04-28-2008, 1:22 PM
iIhave a 24" varmint. it is fantastic from the bench with a bipod. That being said the next upper I am going to get is the rra national match. it uses the same barrel as the pursuit but is threaded for a brake then you can watch point of impact from the scope with a good brake.

trinydex
04-28-2008, 3:20 PM
iIhave a 24" varmint. it is fantastic from the bench with a bipod. That being said the next upper I am going to get is the rra national match. it uses the same barrel as the pursuit but is threaded for a brake then you can watch point of impact from the scope with a good brake.

i read a really great review of ar muzzle breaks, it was tested with some contraption made by the author that essentially put hte gun on a cart and measured in distance how far back the recoil put cart. anyone have that link?

apbrian112
04-28-2008, 3:29 PM
i read something similar in an issue of Front Site a couple months back. if i remember correctly the SJC comp took top honors (followed closely by the cooley, dntc, etc.)

KIDRR
04-28-2008, 3:44 PM
Thanks for the help everyone!

aplinker
04-28-2008, 7:40 PM
i read a really great review of ar muzzle breaks, it was tested with some contraption made by the author that essentially put hte gun on a cart and measured in distance how far back the recoil put cart. anyone have that link?

I would highly suggest the threaded barrel over the non-threaded for specifically that reason (and for the near insignificant cost now, it would be rather expensive to add later).

bodiebill
04-30-2008, 2:21 PM
Just received my Rock River Arms 20" Varmint upper with the Wilson match bbl.
It is heavy, but puts 3 in a dime at 50yds consistenly--even with factory ammo.
The 24" bbl would not offer much more accuracy and would be too long and heavy.