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fireluvrandrew@gmail.com
04-22-2008, 8:04 PM
If i want to get a 22 conversion for my Ar whats the best way to go? Get a complete upper? Will a Ciener kit work? will it damage my barrel??

rksimple
04-22-2008, 8:06 PM
I've fired thousands through my Ciener in both of my ARs. They work well.

fireluvrandrew@gmail.com
04-22-2008, 8:06 PM
Will it damage my barrel??

rksimple
04-22-2008, 8:20 PM
Will it damage my barrel??

No.

RedDawn
04-22-2008, 8:23 PM
If you're going to do the conversion kit, Ciener is the way to go.
I have the air force conversion kit, it's hit or miss and is ammo sensitive.

apbrian112
04-22-2008, 8:27 PM
or you can wait a couple of months to get spike tacticals new 22 conversion kit. just another option, and one i will be going with once it's released.

fireluvrandrew@gmail.com
04-22-2008, 8:30 PM
OK, Im sorry for being so persistant but I know i read somewhere that someone messed up their AR with a ciener kit... or am i imagining things? I just dont want to replace a 300+ barrel on my AR....

Blacktail 8541
04-22-2008, 8:33 PM
Clean the barrel before you go back to shooting .223. The worst you could get would be a little lead fouling.

fireluvrandrew@gmail.com
04-22-2008, 8:38 PM
and just double checking http://www.22lrconversions.com/ those are the officicial kits right/

adamsreeftank
04-22-2008, 8:49 PM
It won't hurt your barrel, but shooting soft lead 22s may cause small shavings to build up in the gas block. Unless you are going to dedicate the barrel for 22s, you might want to stick to copper jacketed ammo.

NeoWeird
04-22-2008, 8:55 PM
The two largest problems with drop in units is:

1. Lead can build up in the gas block.

2. The twist rate of a .223 barrel will not stabilize a .22 rimfire.

In other words, unless it's dedicated, a conversion is not the best way to go. Yes, it WILL work, but there are better options out there.

elSquid
04-22-2008, 9:01 PM
or you can wait a couple of months to get spike tacticals new 22 conversion kit. just another option, and one i will be going with once it's released.

Get in line. I paid for mine almost 3 months ago, and I'm still waiting. (sigh)

-- Michael

rksimple
04-22-2008, 9:45 PM
The two largest problems with drop in units is:

1. Lead can build up in the gas block.

2. The twist rate of a .223 barrel will not stabilize a .22 rimfire.

In other words, unless it's dedicated, a conversion is not the best way to go. Yes, it WILL work, but there are better options out there.

Lead in the gas block can be cleaned. And after a few thousand rounds, I haven't seen a build up occur.

As far as stabilization, do you mean a 22lr will be "overstabilized?" Most 22lr's have a twist rate of 1 in 14 to 16. A 1 in 9 will spin them faster than needed. They will be stabilized and then some.

fireluvrandrew@gmail.com
04-22-2008, 10:27 PM
So if I have a Compass Lake (18" Douglas Heavy Contour Threaded Mid-Length + Gas Tube) will I need to get a seperate barrel as to not ruin that one? Or does it matter? Someone with expertise please tell me

AJAX22
04-22-2008, 10:29 PM
The best drop in conversion is (in my experiance) the colt factory units.

They run very reliably.

They can be hard to find and expensive when you do find them, but they are well worth the extra.

fireluvrandrew@gmail.com
04-22-2008, 10:32 PM
im talking just the ciener conversion will it ruin my barrel or gas tube?

fireluvrandrew@gmail.com
04-22-2008, 10:46 PM
i see model1 has some of their own uppers, any good?

DrunkSkunk
04-22-2008, 10:49 PM
no

i use a ciener in my carbine upper i do all my plinking with, this month alone i've gone through about 10000 22lr in it. i'll get a ftf every couple hundred or so rounds because of the buildup, just a squirt of clp after about 200rds and business as usual. at the end i just switch up to 223.

fireluvrandrew@gmail.com
04-22-2008, 10:52 PM
So just final checking, the kit CANNOT do any damage to my barrel?????

RedDawn
04-23-2008, 12:18 AM
If your barrel isn't a match grade barrel, I wouldn't give it another thought.

DrunkSkunk
04-23-2008, 1:12 AM
So just final checking, the kit CANNOT do any damage to my barrel?????

what'da'ya want, a guarantee in writing? even regular 223 ammo can possibly damage your barrel. slim to none, but possible i guess. :rolleyes:

if you're that worried get a dedicated upper to ease your mind, do whatever you have to so you don't have an anxiety attack.

3GunFunShooter
04-23-2008, 6:48 AM
I went with a Model 1 Sales complete upper.
Over 750 rounds, cleaned once, only 1 FTE.
Great set up. This is my new favorite gun.