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Fjold
04-22-2008, 5:16 PM
A friend asked me to look at the rifle his father-in-law (89 yr old WWII Vet) gave him and asked me to check it out. It looks to be a 100% correct SA 1942 Garand that has never been touched. I'm not going to post the serial number (it's in the 5XX,XXX range) because it's not my gun. But it has some very desirable original parts.
The lands look sharp but I haven't cleaned it yet. I don't have any ball ammo to guage the wear yet either.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/Garand/DSC00257.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/Garand/DSC00264.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/Garand/DSC00269-2.jpg

Fjold
04-22-2008, 5:17 PM
More Pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/Garand/DSC00262.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/Garand/DSC00259-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/Garand/DSC00265.jpg

John Browning
04-22-2008, 5:23 PM
It isn't 100% original, but having the SA/GHS stock is a huge plus. The rear sight and several of the small parts aren't correct for the rifle, but those are a lot cheaper and easier to find than correct, legit wood.

eviioiive
04-22-2008, 5:25 PM
you are aware that you have posted 83% of the serial...?

Saigon1965
04-22-2008, 5:25 PM
Sweet gift. Give us a shot of the entire rifle man. This is like a cleavage shot, butt crack shot. Turns out she's 300 lbs.

Saigon1965
04-22-2008, 5:26 PM
Huuusssshhhh, you don't see a thing.




you are aware that you have posted 83% of the serial...?

eviioiive
04-22-2008, 5:33 PM
Huuusssshhhh, you don't see a thing.
I wont even go into the topic of open photobuckets for the other 17%...

USN CHIEF
04-22-2008, 5:33 PM
Are you selling it? Do you want too? Huh? Say yes.. Please say yes...

USN CHIEF
04-22-2008, 5:35 PM
I wont even go into the topic of open photobuckets for the other 17%...

Thanks, now the DOJ BoF will know about that:eek:

Fjold
04-22-2008, 6:49 PM
The rear sight was a question when I described it to my brother, it should be different but I know that the rifle came back from WWII with my friend's, FIL's brother and hasn't left Bakersfield in 50 years. The gas cylinder plug is a straight slot (not a cross) and the chamber area is bright and shiny, it hasn't been re-parkerized. There are no arsenal rework number stamps anywhere that I can see.


It isn't mine to sell, he also gave him another "gun" (a SMLE)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/Garand/DSC00273.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/Garand/DSC00276.jpg

NRAhighpowershooter
04-22-2008, 7:09 PM
I hate to say this.. but that rear sight (at least the windage knob is early post WW-II DRC Drudge Brothers Company only made them post war.... the elevation knob is post war as well... (post the markings and we can tell early or late post war) the later non-lockbar sights weren't aproved until after WW-II. Can you posts picks of the op rod?

Fjold
04-22-2008, 7:22 PM
Disclaimer:
I know little about Garands as far as history, etc. I know how they work and how to take them apart. :D

The rear sight is marked DRC on the elevation knob, my brother said that was wrong. The Op rod is marked SA and is straight cut.

I have to remember how to get the bolt apart so I can check if the firing pin has been lightened. If not I'll have to get one for the guy and save his original one for him. Then I have to check headspace and the mainspring.

Anything else (safety wise) that I should check?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/Garand/DSC00277.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/Garand/DSC00281.jpg

TregoMark
04-22-2008, 7:50 PM
"Brought back from WWII" is not likely, but it does look mostly correct. What are the numbers on the operating rod and the bolt?

Fjold
04-22-2008, 8:04 PM
Those numbers are way too small for 50 year old eyes (D's could be O's, etc)
Operating rod:
D35382 3 SA

Bolt
028287 - 12 SA
RE 58

kermit
04-22-2008, 8:36 PM
The CMP site has info on detail stripping the bolt:
http://www.civilianmarksmanship.com/striphtml/detailstripmain.html

Perhaps you could take apart the trigger group and remove that green Bic lighter which doesn't look correct for that rifle:)

BDH
04-22-2008, 8:40 PM
The rifle was made in March or April of '41. I don't have my books here on the road or I'd tell you the serial range for the stock stamps. You can use this link to find the exact month and year of mfg.

(http://www.jouster.com/serial/Springfield.html)

Pull the op rod back and let us know what the bbl markings are... Also, give us a shot of the rear of the front sight (screw) and the end of the bbl. What shape is the crown in?
Your rifle is probably a nice mixmaster that has a little history behind it. You probably will never find out where it's been, but still a nice rifle.

Bruce

Uxi
04-22-2008, 8:45 PM
Is your friend's father adopting? :D

Fjold
04-22-2008, 8:45 PM
The CMP site has info on detail stripping the bolt:
http://www.civilianmarksmanship.com/striphtml/detailstripmain.html

Perhaps you could take apart the trigger group and remove that green Bic lighter which doesn't look correct for that rifle:)


I use the CMP site. But I remember from my DCM Garand back in the early 80's that the bolt is tricky.

Thanks for the laugh, the lighter was used to light the Partagas that I had while while throwing the tennis ball for the Border Collie and taking pictures of the Garand.

The rear sight bolt is an allen head (so that probably isn't correct either). The barrel is a 42 and the bore doesn't look bad, the lands are sharp but it needs a good cleaning.

Tha back of the action does not look like it's been lead dipped, does that change anything?

DedEye
04-22-2008, 9:38 PM
Since no one else has called it...

:Ivan:

It may not be all original, but the price was right for your friend ;).

Uxi
04-22-2008, 10:08 PM
Hey, I implied it!

TregoMark
04-23-2008, 10:04 PM
The bolt, op rod, stock and gas cylinder look correct. What are the numbers on the trigger housing and barrel markings? If you pull the op rod to the rear, you can see the barrel markings.

Nice looking Garand. The GHS stock is a very big bonus.

toolman9000
04-23-2008, 10:29 PM
That GHS gives me wood... do you realize that you could get damn near $1000 for that stock!!!!!

I had a chance to buy one for $450 once and passed since I thought it was too much.
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For your rifle the original flush nut short pinion sights, SA/GHS stock and the ?/41 dated SA barrel are the most valuable pieces. So, far I think you have two out of three the correct rear sight is soooooo dang expensive.

Does your front sight have the seal in tact?

neat rifle!