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MachineGuntongue
08-18-2014, 8:46 PM
Recommendations for a first AR build. Starting from a Broken Armory 80% lower. Wanting a reliable, non fancy, home defense rifle that will never see a sandbox. Just to have for all the reasons so,e mention: home defense, "wrol", earthquake, flood. Something to keep the home front safe from predators in a time of trouble (which hopefully never happens of course). Wanting more precision than a shotgun, which I have already, and less recoil. Would be open to also do it as a pistol version with Sig Brace, following the rules and order of operation.

Seeking complete pas kit minus receiver. Is their a place that sells rifle kits like Palmetto Armory, but in stock, that ships? Or are they the standard place to start a budget build and just wait it out and check site daily?

I am sure this has been asked before. If links to previous threads I will go there. And delete this. I did search buy didn't see anything current that matched. Just lots of parts listed separately.

TruEdge
08-18-2014, 9:06 PM
Palmetto is a good place to start for what your looking for, just expect them to take their time getting it to you.

MachineGuntongue
08-18-2014, 9:11 PM
Thank you. I was worried I wrote a "rookie move" post. If Palmetto is the place I will keep at it and know to be patient.

I read good things about Broken Armory lowers here. I hope I made a good choice. It was $119 total. I see many listed for less. But they were nearby and in stock.

If anybody has opinions or advice these lowers, any input appreciated.

Devilmonkey89
08-18-2014, 9:23 PM
Lower build kit http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/10301/category/388/
upper http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/12802/category/4220/
+ bcg + charging handle, done deal...
Or you can go with a PTAC upper? Up to you

MachineGuntongue
08-18-2014, 10:02 PM
How does PTAC differ from palmetto? I see their's has the big and ch included for $299

The $15 off makes shipping total $2

Really nice of you to help out. I was overwhelmed by AR rifles as so many options. The print magazines at bookstores have so many ads and suppliers. I lose focus by indecision and so many choices. But getting on track now.

Keeping it basic and simple my goal. I aim to measure twice and tortoise my way through the process. And choosing mill over drill as recommended by 80% lower vendor.

kcheung2
08-18-2014, 10:23 PM
Besides PSA, try Del-ton, Rock River, Spikes, BCM, DD, even Exile Machine & Primary Arms sell uppers.

Another option: pick up a used M&P 15 Sport upper, I see a few used ones on sale in the classifieds. The lack of dust cover is a mini-controversy in itself, but if you decide it's not critical, the early versions with the 1:8 twist 5R melonited barrel are worth considering.

AreWeFree
08-19-2014, 7:41 PM
If you can buy soon, get this upper from BCM:

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-Mid-Length-KeyMod-KMR-9-p/bcm-urg-mid-16-kmr9.htm

Buy a fixed rear sight, LPK, fixed stock, muzzle brake, and get a grip wrap or make your own by buying a kydex sheet from amazon.

You will not regret this.

Rear sight: https://www.exilemachine.net/shop/dd-a1-5-fixed-rear-sight-54651.html?zenid=6du76kqb8k041fj8bgj9p218g6
LPK: https://www.exilemachine.net/shop/dd-lower-receiver-parts-kit-54642.html?zenid=6du76kqb8k041fj8bgj9p218g6
Muzzle brake: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/565135/daniel-defense-muzzle-climb-mitigator-muzzle-brake-1-2-28-thread-ar-15-steel-matte
Fixed stock, A2 Buttstock Kit, Black: http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=296

Grip wrap, or kydex sheet:
http://shop.solartactical.com/AR15-AR10_c36.htm
http://www.amazon.com/Kydex-Plastic-Sheet-Black-0-060/dp/B00CBWNUR0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1408506011&sr=8-2&keywords=kydex+sheet


Edit: To be clear, it's my opinion that this parts list meets all of OP's requirements and is a perfect home defense, range gun, practice rifle, etc... This is my latest build, except I went with an A2 carry handle, and I love it.

Norcalkid
08-19-2014, 7:52 PM
I would be looking at featureless if home defense interests you. No way I would want a BB on a HD gun. I would probably just go with PSA if building or buy a S&W complete (they go for 550 sometimes). Doesn't sound like your looking for anything too fancy.

madjack956
08-19-2014, 7:56 PM
Rock River has a kit that includes every single piece you need except receiver.

AreWeFree
08-19-2014, 8:00 PM
My parts list post above is for featureless..

Forget PSA, if you want to rely on this for defense then get a quality firearm. Out of everything I own, Daniel Defense and BCM are just outstanding quality that even $2k+ rifles can't beat.

Devilmonkey89
08-19-2014, 8:44 PM
Fify haha

Forget PSA if you want to rely on this for defense then get a quality firearm. Out of everything I own, Daniel Defense and BCM are just outstanding quality that even $2k+ rifles can't beat.[/QUOTE]but on a serious note, around 2k rounds of PMC, tula, wolf I have yet to encounter an issue with my PSA rifle, I also have a BCM CHF upper that I run, and can not feel a difference between the two.

nate76239
08-19-2014, 8:47 PM
You can get a Del-Ton rifle kit from Midway for $499 same for PSA, a few weeks ago the Del-Ton was $459. If you spend a little more you can get a Daniel Defense stripped upper for $399 for the carbine or $459 for the Midlength then get your own bolt carrier, handguard, lower parts kit & stock kit, PSA has the lower build kit $109
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/1131/category/388/

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/3163116018/del-ton-carbine-kit-ar-15-556x45mm-nato

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/ar15-m16-stripped-upper-receiver-groups-prod54564.aspx?avs|Manufacturer_1=DANIEL%20DEFENSE

Don't forget to look for coupon codes in deals sales section Brownells had free shipping recently and I think a $50 discount code

MachineGuntongue
08-20-2014, 12:19 AM
This is excellent. I am very thankful for all the advice and help! Thank you for adding in the links. It makes a difference.

Anthracis
08-20-2014, 12:54 AM
Entry level kit from any manufacturer will suit your needs just fine. What you should check is availability and best deals or sales.

echoThreeOneSix
08-20-2014, 1:27 AM
Entry level kit from any manufacturer will suit your needs just fine. What you should check is availability and best deals or sales.

I agree. You don't need anything crazy, just your basic AR15 rifle.

Trout_fear_me
08-20-2014, 5:37 AM
This kit from Palmetto has everything you need except for the lower:

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/2279/category/313/