View Full Version : Administration Set to Use New Spy Program in U.S.

04-13-2008, 10:53 PM
Don't worry, the Government would never misuse this kind of technology or do anything that would be Unconstitutional...

Administration Set to Use New Spy Program in U.S.
Congressional Critics Want More Assurances of Legality

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told lawmakers that a new spying office won't violate rights. (By Paul Sakuma -- Associated Press)

By Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, April 12, 2008; Page A03

The Bush administration said yesterday that it plans to start using the nation's most advanced spy technology for domestic purposes soon, rebuffing challenges by House Democrats over the idea's legal authority.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said his department will activate his department's new domestic satellite surveillance office in stages, starting as soon as possible with traditional scientific and homeland security activities -- such as tracking hurricane damage, monitoring climate change and creating terrain maps.

Sophisticated overhead sensor data will be used for law enforcement once privacy and civil rights concerns are resolved, he said. The department has previously said the program will not intercept communications.

"There is no basis to suggest that this process is in any way insufficient to protect the privacy and civil liberties of Americans," Chertoff wrote to Reps. Bennie G. Thompson (D-Miss.) and Jane Harman (D-Calif.), chairmen of the House Homeland Security Committee and its intelligence subcommittee, respectively, in letters released yesterday.

"I think we've fully addressed anybody's concerns," Chertoff added in remarks last week to bloggers. "I think the way is now clear to stand it up and go warm on it."

His statements marked a fresh determination to operate the department's new National Applications Office as part of its counterterrorism efforts. The administration in May 2007 gave DHS authority to coordinate requests for satellite imagery, radar, electronic-signal information, chemical detection and other monitoring capabilities that have been used for decades within U.S. borders for mapping and disaster response.

But Congress delayed launch of the new office last October. Critics cited its potential to expand the role of military assets in domestic law enforcement, to turn new or as-yet-undeveloped technologies against Americans without adequate public debate, and to divert the existing civilian and scientific focus of some satellite work to security uses.

Democrats say Chertoff has not spelled out what federal laws govern the NAO, whose funding and size are classified. Congress barred Homeland Security from funding the office until its investigators could review the office's operating procedures and safeguards. The department submitted answers on Thursday, but some lawmakers promptly said the response was inadequate.

"I have had a firsthand experience with the trust-me theory of law from this administration," said Harman, citing the 2005 disclosure of the National Security Agency's domestic spying program, which included warrantless eavesdropping on calls and e-mails between people in the United States and overseas. "I won't make the same mistake. . . . I want to see the legal underpinnings for the whole program."

Thompson called DHS's release Thursday of the office's procedures and a civil liberties impact assessment "a good start." But, he said, "We still don't know whether the NAO will pass constitutional muster since no legal framework has been provided."

DHS officials said the demands are unwarranted. "The legal framework that governs the National Applications Office . . . is reflected in the Constitution, the U.S. Code and all other U.S. laws," said DHS spokeswoman Laura Keehner. She said its operations will be subject to "robust," structured legal scrutiny by multiple agencies.

I feel safer already

04-13-2008, 11:37 PM
I am so glad they are starting this program. I thought the U.K. would get a leg up on us in domestic surveillance technology.

Thank you shadowy overlords from you constant vigil to protect me from myself.


04-14-2008, 10:28 AM

Yankee Clipper
04-14-2008, 3:20 PM
I’d like to know how domestic satellite surveillance prevents domestic terrorism. How will the spending of mega millions/billions stop the type of terrorism we experienced on 9/11? As citizens we have an expectation of privacy and I have to wonder why we should give that expectation up for spy satellite of dubious anti-terrorism capabilities. Even though neither the Constitution nor the Bill of Rights guarantees our right to privacy I believe that expectation is part of an unwritten law in which we all believe. I think this ‘warming’ of a domestic spy satellite will severely test our common privacy assumptions and even challenge us to evaluate how much privacy we’ll expect, for ourselves, in the future.

04-14-2008, 3:40 PM
What loss of freedoms we tolerate, our children will accept as the norm, and the cycle continues on from there from generation to generation until...

"Those who would sacrifice freedom for security, deserve neither freedom nor security." - Benjamin Franklin

04-14-2008, 3:42 PM

Here's "our" sign:


04-14-2008, 4:59 PM
Don't worry, the Government would never misuse this kind of technology or do anything that would be Unconstitutional...

And if they did, Congress would legalize everything ex post facto like they did last month with the telecom bill.