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s2000news
03-26-2008, 03:06 PM
Story on Yahoo: LINK (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080326/ap_on_re_us/ak47s;_ylt=AlsgnTwadET6YneZnE_afr5vzwcF)

By MATT SEDENSKY, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 34 minutes ago

KENNER, La. - The cake had been served and the children were jumping up and down in a big, inflatable castle when the birthday party turned to bedlam.

Clarence McGraw's jaw dropped as he saw the visitors coming, guns drawn. The screaming began.

Children ran everywhere in the courtyard of the low-income apartment complex; adults fell to the ground. Bullets flew. The killers wounded three youngsters, but for reasons police can't explain, it was 19-year-old McGraw they were after.

As McGraw lay in the center of the green square, the gunmen stood over him and fired again. He was shot 15 to 20 times in all.
The Sept. 15 killing was remarkable in that it took place in the most innocent of settings — the fifth birthday of twin boys. But it was unremarkable in that one of the guns brandished was an AK-47-type rifle — a powerful, rapid-fire weapon that has long been used in Third World conflicts but is increasingly being used in American street fights.
Figures from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, obtained by The Associated Press through public records requests, show a marked increase in the number of AK-type weapons traced and entered into the agency's computer database because they had been seized or connected to a crime.

The number of such tracings rose even while the federal assault weapons ban was in effect and has continued to climb since its expiration.
Since 1993, the year before the ban took affect, ATF has recorded a more than sevenfold increase in 7.62x39mm guns — which includes the original Russian-made AK-47 and a variety of copycats from around the world. The number of AK-type guns rose from 1,140 in 1993 to 8,547 last year.
Since 2005, the first full year after the ban's expiration, ATF has recorded an 11 percent increase in such tracings.

ATF says the increases in the first half of the 1990s are partly the result of wider usage of its weapons database by local law enforcement agencies. But after that point, the numbers reflect a real increase in tracings of AK-type guns, the agency acknowledged.

The numbers corroborate what police chiefs around the country have been saying: AKs and other so-called assault weapons are terrorizing their communities and endangering their officers.

The numbers are reflected in some of the most horrifying violence of the past year, including a deadly shooting rampage at a department store in Omaha, Neb.

They're reflected in the growing number of police forces equipping their officers with higher-powered guns to match the bad guys' firepower.
And they're reflected in a single 72-hour period in September that started with the shooting of four Miami-area officers and ended here, in a drab apartment complex just outside New Orleans.
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On Thursday, Sept. 13, Jose Somohano, a 37-year-old officer with the Miami-Dade Police, was cut down during a traffic stop in suburban Miami by a man with an AK-type weapon. Three other officers — armed, like Somohano, with just handguns — were wounded, one of them suffering a bullet wound the size of a grapefruit in her leg.

By midnight, the gunman, Shawn LaBeet, had been shot to death by police after a huge manhunt.

Police have refused to say how many times Somohano was hit or how many shell casings were found.

The officer's wife, Elizabeth Somohano, had gone off to her job at an insurance company earlier that day, and just before noon, Jose's sister reached her at the office. "Have you heard?" she asked. Something was going on in the area Jose patrolled.

Elizabeth called his cell. She text-messaged him, over and over. She called her kids to see if they had heard from him. She checked the Internet to find out what was happening, and learned that officers had been shot and a gunman was on the loose.

A colleague of Jose's — one of his closest friends — called Elizabeth and told her to stay put. He showed up at her office, and when their eyes met, he broke into tears.

"He didn't make it," he told her. She screamed.
Later, she took some comfort in knowing that her husband had eaten lunch that day, which meant he must have seen the hot-pink note she had slipped into his lunch bag along with his chicken salad-on-pita sandwich: "I love you, macho man."

Days before the ambush, Miami Police Chief John Timoney agreed to let patrol officers carry assault rifles to help counter the use of such weapons by criminals. John Rivera, president of the Dade County Police Benevolent Association, pleaded for the same for officers in the Miami-Dade department, which protects more than 1.4 million people around the city.
"It's almost like we have water pistols," he said.

For years, only SWAT teams and the like carried AR-15s or similarly powerful weapons. But police forces nationwide have increased their firepower to match the criminals' arsenal — not only in urban areas such as Miami and Los Angeles, but in Waterloo, Iowa, Stillwater, Okla., Danbury, Conn., and Merced, Calif.

"We're in an arms race," said Police Chief Scott Knight of Chaska, Minn., chairman of the firearms committee of the International Association of Chiefs of Police.

I didn't see this in my search, so hope its not a Dup.

GenLee
03-26-2008, 03:17 PM
Tragic.

Stormfeather
03-26-2008, 03:20 PM
Some people just dont get it. Kenner La, is a suburb or New Orleans. Plus this happened in Sept 15th, what year? This type of violence is everyday normal lifestyle there. Im sure many here remember my recounts of new years eve 2 years ago there where my patrol cruiser got peppered with ak-47 rds just for spotlighting a group of guys standing in the street. While hi-power rifles are illegal within city limits, It says nothing about the surrounding parishes. And being as how the town officials, law enforcement, and pretty much anyone in a position of authority there are crooked, its not hard to see how this happens. BTDT aint going back, I got the t-shirt, thats good enough for me.

USN CHIEF
03-26-2008, 03:20 PM
Very sad... It just shows that reporters don't care about the facts of the weapons that they describe..

Toolbox X
03-26-2008, 03:30 PM
I wish the AK-47's would stop forcing criminals to commit crimes.

SunriseF150
03-26-2008, 03:42 PM
At least we're doing our part by helping in taking away ak's from evil people and putting them in the hands of law abiding gun owners:D

FEDUPWBS
03-26-2008, 03:49 PM
At least we're doing our part by helping in taking away ak's from evil people and putting them in the hands of law abiding gun owners:D

I'm trying very hard!

RRangel
03-26-2008, 03:56 PM
It feels like the 80s all over again. It could be just me, but though the Heller case is still undecided it looks like reality has struck a nerve. All the know it all quotes, as well as information from victim disarming groups such as the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. Without a distinction of good or bad violence of course.


This article would like to draw a similarity between the Kalashnikov in Iraq, and those legal arms in the United States. It is the same sensationalism, and hype that was seen in the Roberti-Roos media craze. There is no mention in this article of the benefits that firearms bring to society. The whole point being that the AK-47 is at fault.

The numbers corroborate what police chiefs around the country have been saying: AKs and other so-called assault weapons are terrorizing their communities and endangering their officers.

If AKs are banned does that mean the terrorizing will stop?
What they say about moral busy bodies is true.

Dirk Tungsten
03-26-2008, 04:12 PM
In a sense, the 80's redux comment is true. These things are, I'm sure, driven by demographic trends. What we have here is the children of those same scumbags who drove the gang violence and crime of the 1980's. I remember the stories on the nightly news dealing with the waves of gang violence, particularly here in Cali, especially in LA.

The generation born post-1980 was, IIRC, even larger than the Baby Boomers. It stands to reason that this generation would produce a greater number of criminals, commiting a greater number of crimes. One generation of thugs and criminals will beget another generation of thugs and criminals.

But it's the AK's fault. Always. <sarcasm>

Hopi
03-26-2008, 04:42 PM
I wish the AK-47's would stop forcing criminals to commit crimes.

Siggghhh, I've lost many pennies to fountains while wishing the same thing...I'm going to switch to nickels....

Patriot
03-26-2008, 04:48 PM
Siggghhh, I've lost many pennies to fountains while wishing the same thing...I'm going to switch to nickels....

That's gun control logic right there :43:

mk19
03-26-2008, 04:59 PM
Here is one argument i always use for those who say guns kill. I ask them if they have ever hear the story of Able and Cane( the 2 sons of Adam ) most answer yes, then i ask them Did they have guns back then? and the answer would be no. Then i tell them guns dont kill people, it is humans that kill each other even when they did not have any guns they killed each other with rocks clubs sword ....

chico.cm
03-26-2008, 06:36 PM
at least they got this part of the story correct:

"The AK was designed by Mikhail Kalashnikov and went into production in 1947, with its name standing for Avtomat Kalashnikova and the year.

"Once the Wall fell, these guns were everywhere," said Carlos Baixauli, an agent with ATF.

Kalashnikov, who is now 88 and still lives in Russia, has said he is proud of his invention but saddened it's been used by terrorists. He said he wishes he had invented something like a lawnmower.

Bullets fired by AK-47s travel at a higher velocity than those from many other weapons, and can do grievous damage to the body. Often they have enough energy to pass clear through.

Knockoffs of the AK can be bought from legitimate gun dealers for as little as $300, and are also available on the street. Original Russian-made models are more expensive. Normal ammo clips hold 30 rounds, but higher-capacity ones are also available.

Most of the AKs on American streets are semiautomatic, meaning they fire as fast as the gunman can squeeze the trigger. Fully automatic ones, common on the battlefield, require just one pull of the trigger to release a burst of fire."