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Ech0Sierra
03-23-2008, 02:52 PM
The List of Offensive Range Stereotypes.

At every range, shooters from the following list of archetypes can be found. The more you think about it, the more you will realize you have seen these people. The question is, which one are you?

1. Grampa and Cody
Typically an older white guy and his snivelling grandchild (or similar junior relation). Grampa is trying to teach Cody (or Jody, or Brody, or whatever crap name the kid has) how to shoot with a 1950’s era Lakefield or Cooey .22 rifle and an empty tin can lying 10m away on the ground. Cody's soccer mom and sensitive new-age dad aren't too keen on this idea, but the old man overruled them. Claimed they were coddling the little brat (true) and this will be a valuable experience (doubtful). Grampa smells of rye and seems a little unsteady on his feet, and insists on holding forth about his views on how a) kids today are all idiots, b) how much better things were in the old days, c) the evils of Communism, or d) the proper place of a woman. He occasionally interrupts his diatribe to yell such helpful advice as “squeeze the trigger, dammit! Like I showed you!” without ever having bothered to explain to Cody how iron sights work. Will grudgingly dole out one round at a time from his pocket, with instructions not to waste it. In the 30's (or whenever the ancient bastard grew up) people only made 23¢ a year and couldn't afford to miss a shot, or they'd catch The Polio. Cody, for his part, couldn’t hit the ground with a handful of thrown rice, is close to tears, and wishes he were at home with his XBox.

2. The Range Nazi
Annoying, but basically harmless, the sole reason for existence of the Range Nazi is sucking all the fun out of shooting. Will arrive at the range with a single antiquated rifle in a calibre nobody shoots anymore, such as .32-20. Will set up a number of bullseye (never human or animal) targets at the 100m point, but does not shoot at them. Instead the Range Nazi will walk up and down the line, questioning others about the legality of their firearms, tut-tutting over the use of human silhouette targets, appointing himself boss of the range safety light, and making note of anybody being even the slightest bit Unsafe(!). He will then be sure to bring up the unsafe people he witnessed being unsafe in an unsafely unsafe manner (did we mention they were unsafe?) at the next range meeting. Hopes to get everybody he disapproves of (which is everybody) kicked out of the range. Only then will it be safe, and only then will nobody behave in a manner certain to reflect discredit upon the range and shooting in general. Cringes every time a firearm is referred to as a weapon, as if somehow an anti-gun lobbyist will hear it and yell "A-ha! Ban them! Ban them all!". Has the phone number of every member of the range executive committee on his speed dial. Despite his intrusive ways, the Range Nazi will generally piss off when told to do so.

3. The Tea Drinking Man.
Arrives 5 minutes after the range opens, and won't leave until it closes. Takes five trips to unload all his gear from his Buick Riviera (or similar old-fart-mobile), yet only brought two guns. Shooting routine consists of the following: Painstakingly selects a single round of ammo. Unloads it and puts it back in box. Adjusts scope. Has a drink of tea from thermos. Selects a different round of ammo. Loads into rifle. Sights in on target. Consults shooting log. Takes round out. Has drink of tea. Falls asleep. Wakes up. Adjusts sight again. And so on and so on… May or may not actually fire within the hour. Rarely makes it through more than ten rounds before the range closes for the day. Becomes annoyed when other shooters a) disturb his concentration (or napping) with the sound of their firing, b) request cease-fires to change targets that are shot out (a concept foreign to him), or c) check him for a pulse occasionally. Has been a member of the range since longbows were considered assault weapons, and is still working on the same box of ammo. When not at the range, can be found at the local gun store engaging the counter staff in hours of meandering conversation about nothing in particular.

4. Jesse and Jamie.
These are the two, for lack of a better term, rednecks. Will show up driving a full size diesel pickup that cost more than their doublewide trailer. Due to gender-ambiguous names, it is certain you will confuse who is who, and use the wrong name in conversation. Jesse (or Jamie, it depends) is down about the mill laying him off again. He's pretty sure foreigners of some sort are responsible, and is waiting for his EI to kick in. Until then they subsist on Jamie's (or Jesse's) earnings as a hairdresser. Listen to both kinds of music, country and western. Truck will have at least one kerchief-wearing dog in the back named "Buddy". Eager to compare a) hunting knives, b) belt buckle sizes, c) brands of chewing tobacco, or d) line dancing steps or e) recipes that start with "take a side of beef…". Shoot his and hers lever action rifles, and believe that any calibre less than a .30-30 is unmanly, while anything bigger is wasteful. Guns will be stored in vinyl gun socks from Canadian Tire (if they're over 40) or Walmart (if they're young 'uns). Optics, if any, will be of no more than 4x magnification and look as if they were used to hammer in nails at some point. Like to talk about how good it will be once the season starts and they have the opportunity to fill up their spare freezers. Dress almost exclusively in plaid jackets and jeans, but each has a set of "formal" cowboy boots at home for special occasions. Instinctively distrust the government, and wonder whatever happened to Preston Manning.


5. The Paramilitary Poseur
Difficult to actually see at the range due to the camouflage and SWAT gear he is wearing. Generally at least 20kg overweight, the Paramilitary Poseur is the ultimate expression of the suburban commando. Eager to discuss the best type of ammunition to use against marauding feminist ninja bankrobbers or armour-plated bears. Loves to drop cryptic references to his past life as an Airborne Special Forces Delta-SEAL, which he can’t go into detail about “for security reasons”. Note: this person has never been in the military or the police. He’s most likely a mailman or a mall security guard; any job where he gets a uniform, but which doesn’t require too much hard work or talent. Claims to be a master of some arcane martial art nobody has ever heard of, like "Krav Jitsu Fu. Could kill you just by staring at you really hard. Weapons of the Poseur will generally have all sorts of “tactical” accessories added to them, effectively tripling their price and mass without doing anything to improve his shooting. Has strong opinions on the .338 Lapua vs. .408 Chey-Tac debate, despite never having fired either. Will own at least one SKS made up to look like a Dragunov, and a “sniper rifle” that turns out to be a hunting rifle with the biggest scope one can get (for under $100) mounted on it. Shooting bag will contain a) back issues of Soldier of Fortune, b) a really big knife with teeth up the back, c) 10 rounds of military 5.56mm FMJ that he bought at a gun show, and d) a 1970’s vintage Soviet night vision scope that won’t mount on anything he owns.

Ech0Sierra
03-23-2008, 02:53 PM
6. The Man in Tac-Black
A rare sight at civilian ranges, but easy to spot once he's there. Generally arrives in a 4x4 straight out of Mad Max, or a Crown Victoria with poorly-concealed lights in the grille. May or may not have a moustache reminiscent of a gay porn star, but will have a very short haircut. Weapons are generally black, scary looking, and numerous. Can easily fill a rack with what he brought just to do some informal plinking with. The envy of the Paramilitary Poseur and the sworn nemesis of the IPSC wiener. Insists on lying in the dirt in the prone position instead of using the shooting bench like a reasonable human being. Gets confused when not everybody is shooting the same type of weapon and serial as he is. May even begin what he calls a "run down" without warning, so be wary. Shooting bag will contain a) the Dropzone PSP catalogue, b) a bayonet for at least one of his rifles, c) hundreds of rounds of 5.56mm FMJ he stole from work, and d) a number of 30 round magazines that have been pinned to 30 rounds. Takes pride in hitting targets that others can barely see, but becomes bored easily and will often try to use a shotgun or even a pistol for targets at long range. Quick to recognize others of his own kind and engage in the arcane ritual of "who-do-you-know-and-where-have-you-been". Also has strong opinions on the .338 Lapua vs. .408 Chey-Tac debate, having fired both. Doesn't flinch when firing, or when those around him fire. May, in fact, be stone deaf.
7. The Punk-*** Amateur
A common sight at most ranges, a danger to himself and everyone around him, but blissfully unaware of the fact. Arrives at the range in a small import car, which bottoms out two or three times on the rough access road. Weapons will be made by Norinco, as they cost less than anything else and he really doesn't know any better. Barrel may still be full of the original packing grease, as "weapons maintenance" is a foreign concept to him. Targetry will consist of pieces of the cardboard box the weapon came in with hand-drawn circles on them. Fires off 40 rounds of ammo bought at local Walmart (for full price... amateur!) as quickly as possible. Fond of such effective shooting positions as the "from the hip", the "close my eyes and flinch every time I fire" and the ever-popular "try to hold the rifle one-handed like a pistol". Won’t hit a thing and doesn't care; he's there to bust caps and socialize. Once out of ammo, will roam about the range examining other shooters' weapons and looking hopeful in the off chance they let him try one. Often accompanied by Idiot Girlfriend.


8. The Idiot Girlfriend.
Usually found in the company of the Punk-*** Amateur. Typically between the ages of 18 and 26, the Idiot Girlfriend doesn't like the range, but wants to ensure her boyfriend isn't involved in any activity that doesn't include her. Arrives woefully unprepared for the range, with no water, unsuitable clothing, and often no hearing protection. Will, however, have flawless makeup. After a period not exceeding 20 minutes, will immediately begin complaining about a) how hot it is, b) how cold it is, c) the lack of washrooms, d) the condition of any washrooms there happen to be, or e) the noise. If she isn't the centre of attention when she first arrives, she will make it her business to be. A drama queen at heart, she will resort to pouting, whining, stamping her little feet and locking herself in the car if she believes her boyfriend is more interested in shooting than in her plight of discomfort. Rarely seen actually firing, but will try it if the gun seems cute or non-threatening enough. Likes .22's due to the low recoil and quiet report. Not a fan of the .338 Winchester magnum, for obvious reasons. In the off chance she fires something with even the slightest bit of recoil, she will immediately begin a display of overacted injury normally reserved for World Cup matches.


9. The Homie
Formerly considered a sub-variant of the Punk-*** Amateur, the Homie has been sighted in sufficient numbers to grant him his own category. His arrival will be heralded by the booming bass coming from a stereo more powerful than the car he put it in. Drives a blinged-out import car or a lowered SUV, anything that would look at home in "The Fast and the Furious". Like the Punk-*** Amateur, will bottom out two or three times on the poor road leading to the range. Weapons will generally match his vehicle for sheer tackiness and lack of practicality. If he has the money he will own a Desert Eagle, in .50 calibre, with a gold chrome finish. Will definitely have a Glock 9mm, as it is what all his heroes on MTV carry. Actually thinks shooting with the weapon canted 90 degrees to the left is effective; cannot understand why the ejected brass keeps hitting him in the face. Dress of the Homie is distinctive and usually follows a theme of a ludicrously oversized track suit, lots of chunky 8-karat gold chains, designer sunglasses that cost more than his guns, and a particularly offensive cologne he applies with a cropduster. Likes to speak in ebonics and flash gang signs. Parents are tax attorneys. Would likely wet himself if ever confronted by real gangsters.

Ech0Sierra
03-23-2008, 02:53 PM
10. The Recreationist
A strange breed, the Recreationist likes to travel in packs. Dressed in a costume made up of at least four kinds of animal skin and wearing a hat with a tail hanging from it, the Recreationist loves to pretend he lives in the time of the frontier. This applies to his firearms, personal gear, and hygiene when in character, unfortunately. Prefers to be called by some self-applied moniker like “Mountain Mike” or “Raccoon-eating Dave” instead of his real name. Owns a $6000 handcrafted Italian reproduction blackpowder musket and a custom belt knife that cost more than a used motorcycle. Spent three years and thousands of dollars researching his outfit for authenticity; still looks like a hobo. Has never slept outside a night in his life, and takes 4 different medications for allergies. The Recreationist loves to use period slang, often saying things like “varmint” or “dadgummit”, believing this makes him more authentic. May occasionally become confused and throw in a “Get thee hence” or “Zounds!” for good measure. Has nothing but disdain for newfangled weapons, "newfangled" indicating anything capable of firing more than one aimed shot in a minute. Loves to engage in staged duels with others of his own kind, as he is an actor at heart. Once "shot" will begin a 10-minute death scene worthy of Sir Laurence Olivier… or the Idiot Girlfriend. Arrived at the range in a BMW 740i with onboard GPS navigation and a car fax.

11. The Guest
The Guest, as the title implies, is not actually a member of the range, and does not own any guns. They're just somebody who got invited to come along by one of the other archetypes. Guests will generally just stand quietly and not touch anything until invited to do so, but some are prone to know-it-all-ism, and have the bad habit of thinking they actually have some sort of skills with firearms based on their extensive combined CounterStrike experience and collection of action movies. The quiet guest will gamely try anything he is handed, so the temptation to hand him the hardest kicking rifle you own and then tell him to put his eye "right up on the scope" must be avoided. Initially leery of firearms, the guest will usually quickly overcome their fears, make the obligatory "it doesn't sound like that on TV" comments, and settle into some good supervised fun. The obnoxious guest will immediately make his way to the rifle rack, select the most visually impressive weapon, assure onlookers that he requires no help, and then spend 10 minutes trying to figure out how to chamber a round. Quiet guests may become a regular fixture and eventually become shooters themselves. Obnoxious ones are seldom invited back.


12. The IPSC Weiner
Loves to congregate with others of his own kind and take over entire ranges for days at a time so he can play gunfighter. Will construct entire towns out of plywood and cardboard in order to shoot for one afternoon. Owns a custom racegun worth more than the car he arrived in. Likes to dress in obnoxiously coloured clothes with firearms manufacturers' logos prominently displayed on them in hopes others will think he's sponsored. He isn't. The mortal enemy of the Man in Tac-Black, due to an ancient dispute over the definition of practical shooting. Engages in "realistic" combat shooting scenarios such as being seated on a toilet while wearing a holstered handgun, and suddenly having to dispatch two armed terrorists who broke into his bathroom. Will collect your ejected brass before it has a chance to bounce, whether he shoots that calibre or not. Likes to work into conversation the number of dubious shooting academies he's attended, and name drop any quasi-celebrity IPSC shooters he knows in order to impress others. Doesn't work. Hates being confronted by questions like "just how practical is a pistol that falls out of the holster, fires if you even look at it dirty, and requires 60 hours of maintenance a week?" or "what kind of lunatic would immediately holster his pistol and yell 'clear' at a stopwatch-wielding bystander in a real gunfight?", or the dreaded "wouldn't a shotgun be more effective?".

13. The Hippie.
A rarity at most ranges, the Hippie is usually an acquaintance of a shooter who has been brought to the range after shooting their mouth off about guns one too many times. Could be considered an offshoot of the Guest, but is different in that they have no interest in shooting for shooting's sake; they're looking for further evidence to support their patchouli-soaked and generally worthless opinions. Ironically, will arrive clad in more army surplus than the Paramilitary Poseur. Hippies will claim this is done to make an ironic social commentary, but the truth is that camouflage is less likely to show stains, and they can't afford real clothes. Will comment about the "negative energy" coming off the guns, but rest assured, your firearms are not generating an ionic discharge. They are referring to the "aura" that a non-organic, inanimate object inexplicably possesses. More likely witnessing an acid flashback, or possibly hallucinating out of hunger due to all-tofu diet. Will try firing, only after wondering aloud why anyone needs guns, and inquiring as to how many children you've shot at. Do not let the Hippie fire from anything but a supported position, as they will certainly scream and drop your weapon sights-down onto the concrete. This is an excellent way to convert a precision rifle scope into a hollow black tube. After firing a minimum of rounds, and picking up an "idiot cut" along the way, the Hippie will leave, never to return. They will, however, now feel free to consider themselves an expert on firearms.

14. The Range Harem
This refers not so much to a single individual, as a group of them. Often confused with The Guest or The Idiot Girlfriend, members of a Range Harem are an increasingly common sight at ranges these days. The term is originally thought to refer to persons of the cute and female persuasion who accompanied another category of shooter to the range, yet did nothing beyond looking decorative and exclaiming appreciatively every time their lord and master managed to hit something besides the ground. At some point, however,(the older range-goers blame the neo-feminist movement of the 90’s) some irresponsible individual took it upon themselves to see if members of a Range Harem could be taught to operate a firearm. While an interesting experiment from an anthropological standpoint, it has led to chaos at many ranges. Whereas formerly, an overweight and unattractive male in his 50’s could expect feminine adoration for offering to “teach the little lady which end the bullets come out”, now more often than not he is told to pound salt until he bleeds by an attractive and accomplished markswoman. With masculine virility thus diminished, he is forced to go Corvette shopping to restore his damaged manhood. What is worse, this leaves many a socially responsible, gun-fearing young metrosexual man home alone, wondering about the whereabouts of his woman, who has discovered she doesn’t need him in order to go to the range. A Range Harem can often be found in attendance with a shooter possessing a surfeit of firearms, dressed sensibly instead of provocatively, and expressing definite preferences as to firearm choice and ammo selection, which they use with a distressingly high level of proficiency. Must at all costs be stopped!

Ech0Sierra
03-23-2008, 02:55 PM
Copyright HellIsForHeroes and totse.com

Turbinator
03-23-2008, 03:08 PM
I don't think I fit into any of the categories.

Turby

Stormfeather
03-23-2008, 03:09 PM
So EchoSierra. . .um. . which one are you? :)


ETA, my mustache does not look like an 80's era/gay porn star.

Ech0Sierra
03-23-2008, 03:14 PM
I'd have to say........ paramilitary poseur.

savasyn
03-23-2008, 03:26 PM
I don't think I fit into any of the categories.

Turby

Me either.

Ford8N
03-23-2008, 03:26 PM
I've never seen any of those folks at my public range. Mostly people there to have a good time and the occasional "what do you need one of those kind of rifles?" jerks.

Ech0Sierra
03-23-2008, 03:34 PM
Range Nazi?

DedEye
03-23-2008, 03:36 PM
I don't think I fit into any of the categories.

Turby

Same, though I'd probably be closest to the Poseur :o.

Waingro
03-23-2008, 03:51 PM
I have a .50 DE... but I don't flash gang signs, don't even wear a wedding ring, and got the DE for $500 bucks. It sure is fun to shoot, I never see those people at the range, but most of the time unlike your self I concentrate on shooting and not stereotyping the other people.:p

sloguy
03-23-2008, 04:20 PM
having just started as a rso at a local range, i have become painfully more aware of the stereotypes.

ZombieKiller
03-23-2008, 04:20 PM
Lol....the man in tac black and the homie --> I swear i've seen them at the range.....

elroy
03-23-2008, 04:23 PM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=92789 see this vid for a perfect #7 and hippie , 2 in one vid , you nailed it

aileron
03-23-2008, 04:28 PM
So EchoSierra. . .um. . which one are you? :)


ETA, my mustache does not look like an 80's era/gay porn star.

70's??? ;)

AfricanHunter
03-23-2008, 04:38 PM
I think I have seen every one of the above at one time or another.

Good Post

The Soup Nazi
03-23-2008, 04:50 PM
How can they be offensive when they're true!?!? :inquis:

rue
03-23-2008, 05:10 PM
I just saw the Homie and the tac-black guy at The Elk Grove Gun Room last week. Homie was a character out of Mence to Society and had the black .44 DE and was bragging to some other homies about how the ammo cost 38 bucks a box. Tac-black guy sat around shooting a 10/22 with evil black folder stock and high cap mag, practicing the all mightly killing power the evil 10/22 can deliver.
I scooped up the homies .44 mag. shells before they hit the ground. I guess I'm the ISPC guy since I don't own a .44 mag. :)

jumbopanda
03-23-2008, 05:12 PM
Homies who can't afford Desert Eagles usually make due with Big 5 shotguns. :D

Slowshooter
03-23-2008, 05:41 PM
a little bit of 2, 5, 6 and 12:p

CaptainSpaulding
03-23-2008, 05:51 PM
Here's a range stereotypical type I have often encountered:

The Quasi Sharpshooter/Sniper:

This dude is usually in his 20's, clean cut, has a decent to top shelf rifle (i.e. Remington 700 with heavy barrel, Springfield M1A Match, Sako) with a scope, usually, of the same order (i.e. Leupold, Super Sniper, obscure Russian surplus scope, modern Leatherwood) and a quality scope mount with rings. Ammunition varies from old, third rate military surplus to Federal Gold Medal. This cat keeps a rather immaculate setup on his shooting bench and talks the talk. What gives him away is the 8 inch 3 shot group at 100 yards.

Once I was shooting my Winchester model 94 ,offhand, next to his benched, heavy barreled, scoped, Stoner action rifle, while he puffed on a Swisher Sweets cigar and muttered to his girlfriend, (who was rather lovely) "he thinks he's John Wayne". Yuck Yuck. I didn't take offense nor did I say anything when we approached our targets to see eight of my ten shots in the black and his target looking like he used a short barelled shotgun on it...from a distance.

supersonic
03-23-2008, 05:57 PM
I don't judge people at the range. In fact, the only time I really notice anyone else is when they are being unsafe: and then I "let them know about it." If someone was to feel the need to "judge" me, I would fully expect that person to be man (or woman) enough to walk up and say how they are feeling straight to my face. Judging (no pun intended) by how many people talk & ***** about this very thing on public forums, I have YET to witness any "real men" at the ranges I go to (except for the ones that don't discuss such blatant nonsense).;)

CaptainSpaulding
03-23-2008, 06:11 PM
Supersonic, I see your point. I overlooked the word "offensive" in "offensive Range Stereotypes" and couldn't resist the fun of adding to the roster. Ha hah. I don't see the need to tell any of these characters that they are such since they don't offend me. My judgement of them is generally superficial anyway. As long as they are playing it safe and having a good time what do I care. Hell, a description of me at the range would amuse some. But to state that none of them are real men is a judgement call as well.

biscuitninja
03-23-2008, 06:28 PM
The Quasi Sharpshooter/Sniper

I guess i'm kinda him. But I bring my Barrett (when the range will allow) as well as my three old Mosins (one (91/30) is fully accurized with CUSTOM barrel, ~MOA @ 400 yards... no it wasn't cheap or easy to do). I usually go out with the stock 91/30 and M44 and then follow up with the sleeper mosin.... :33:

I can't hit crap at 7-10 yards, move the target back to 25 yards and I can drill a 2-3" group with a pistol ALL day.
Anyways good luck
-bix

ar15barrels
03-23-2008, 06:31 PM
I think I may be a cross between the Man in Tac-Black and the IPSC Weiner.
Kinda ironic when you consider they are mortal enemies...

1911su16b870
03-23-2008, 06:45 PM
The calgunner. Generally a very stoked shooter who simply loves to shoot, talk about shooting, watch others shoot, and is simply happy to be at any range at that time. Will gently attempt to correct many FUDs or misunderstandings the other shooter stereotypes will have. Loves the fact that you can own an AR built up properly without AW registration. Is also very stoked to talk with others in this genre.

docsmileyface
03-23-2008, 06:50 PM
Everytime I go to the range I see that "creep who looks like he's practicing to shoot up his office", buttoned-down white collared psycopath with thick glasses and ill-kempt mustache. Normally he's shooting a large-caliber revolver by himself.

aplinker
03-23-2008, 06:52 PM
I wonder which category the poster of this for sale ad is in. :D



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FOR IPSC Shooting, JUST SLAP ON THE 5.0 sti top slide and guide rod, (uses the same barrel) and you are ready for IPSC shooting!!

aplinker
03-23-2008, 06:52 PM
Everytime I go to the range I see that "creep who looks like he's practicing to shoot up his office", buttoned-down white collared psycopath with thick glasses and ill-kempt mustache. Normally he's shooting a large-caliber revolver by himself.

Have you seen my stapler?

cbn620
03-23-2008, 07:10 PM
Hahaha, that was a funny read. I can't say I fit into any of those perfectly. I'd say my stereotype is being the keep-to-himself rifleman type who just comes and does their shooting, trying their best to follow rules and to not bother anyone. Usually brings whatever kind of guns he has not really paying attention to trends or accessories, anything from a C&R like a Mosin, Mauser, SKS or Garand to a new rifle, usually bolt and lever actions from companies like Remington and Winchester. Despite being kept-to-himself, he will converse if confronted or acknowledged. Being a full fledged rifleman type, he can and will tell you everything you needed to know (and some things you didn't) about the history and design of the rifle he's shooting. Will discuss rifles and calibers till the cows come home.

USN CHIEF
03-23-2008, 07:23 PM
I don't think I fit into any of the categories.

Turby

Yo tampoco:eek:

tankerman
03-23-2008, 07:36 PM
I was kind of disappointed, kept expecting more racial stereotypes.:rolleyes:

LECTRIKHED
03-23-2008, 09:01 PM
I had a run in with #1 this weekend.

Stupid old fart was complaining to me and range master that my Mosin was too loud and that I was just shooting it without any care at the target. Duh. What else would I do with a $40 Mosin. This was on the 50 yard range.

Perhaps gramps should stay home if he is bothered by loud booms at the shooting range.

Dragonfly
03-23-2008, 09:21 PM
Range Harem.... That's were I fit in...I still can do the "looking decorative and exclaiming appreciatively every time their lord and master (at least that's what I let Stormfeather think) managed to hit something besides the ground" thing. Without anyone knowing I can shoot.. LOL

As for Stormfeather's 70s/early 80s mustache - don't knock it. It's great for those role playing nights of 70s/80s porn.. :rofl2:

Josh3239
03-23-2008, 09:27 PM
Last time I went shooting, I believe it was with my shooting buddy and Obnoxious Guest. I didn't invite Obnoxious Guest, that was my shooting buddy. He talked big about how good he is with guns despite never having used them (which he makes no effort to conceal and in fact told me many of times), believes gun control to a certain degree works, and is "someday" getting a "shotty" which he very badly wants.

Long story short, on the way there he did lots of talking about how many kills he got on Call Of Duty 4 and just because he hasn't shot a gun doesn't mean he isn't a "sniper". When we got to the range he refused to hold or shoot any guns because he was fine watching.

There are also lots of videos on YouTube you can find on Idiot Girlfriend.

Stormfeather
03-23-2008, 09:30 PM
Range Harem.... That's were I fit in...I still can do the "looking decorative and exclaiming appreciatively every time their lord and master managed to hit something besides the ground" thing. Without anyone knowing I can shoot.. LOL

As for Stormfeather's 70s/early 80s mustache - don't knock it. It's great for those role playing nights of 70s/80s porn.. :rofl2:

muwahahahah! Know your role!!! What are you doing out of the kitchen?

This will probally be the only time she calls me anything close to this, so im making the most of it guys! Sorry!!:D

ETA: hahahah! She already edited it!

Dragonfly
03-23-2008, 09:34 PM
muwahahahah! Know your role!!! What are you doing out of the kitchen?

This will probally be the only time she calls me anything close to this, so im making the most of it guys! Sorry!!:D

ETA: hahahah! She already edited it!

:wub:

USN CHIEF
03-23-2008, 09:54 PM
Range Harem.... That's were I fit in...I still can do the "looking decorative and exclaiming appreciatively every time their lord and master (at least that's what I let Stormfeather think) managed to hit something besides the ground" thing. Without anyone knowing I can shoot.. LOL

As for Stormfeather's 70s/early 80s mustache - don't knock it. It's great for those role playing nights of 70s/80s porn.. :rofl2:

Stormfeather can't shoot:eek: :43: :D

DedEye
03-24-2008, 12:49 AM
The calgunner. Generally a very stoked shooter who simply loves to shoot, talk about shooting, watch others shoot, and is simply happy to be at any range at that time. Will gently attempt to correct many FUDs or misunderstandings the other shooter stereotypes will have. Loves the fact that you can own an AR built up properly without AW registration. Is also very stoked to talk with others in this genre.

We have a winner.

Add to the description that he comes to the range with at least one CA legal, OLL black rifle and you've got the category I fit in (and most other here too most likely) ;).

psriley
03-24-2008, 01:27 AM
I am all of them simultaneously.

supersonic
03-24-2008, 01:39 AM
I have YET to witness any "real men" at the ranges I go to (except for the ones that don't discuss such blatant nonsense).
But to state that none of them are real men is a judgement call as well.

Read the last part again.;)

jumbopanda
03-24-2008, 01:45 AM
I came up with one for myself:

The Com-Bloc Nut

The Com-Bloc Nut usually comes to the range wearing a Wolf Ammo T-shirt. He brings a few ammo cans, all filled with either Wolf 7.62x39 or surplus 7.62x54r, which attracts a magnet from 20 feet away. He will have at least two gun bags/cases, and at least three Kalashnikov type rifles. Most of his range time will be spent firing somewhat-aimed shots with a gripless AK and 30rd mags or 75rd drums, with breaks between mags to shoot a Mosin Nagant. The Com-Bloc Maniac will sometimes have an AR-15, but never shoots more than 30 rounds out of it per range trip, and even so, only steel-cased Russian ammo is used.

Turbinator
03-24-2008, 02:07 AM
We have a winner.

Add to the description that he comes to the range with at least one CA legal, OLL black rifle and you've got the category I fit in (and most other here too most likely) ;).

There you go, I like the Calgunner description too. :)

Turby

DedEye
03-24-2008, 02:20 AM
I came up with one for myself:

The Com-Bloc Nut

The Com-Bloc Nut usually comes to the range wearing a Wolf Ammo T-shirt. He brings a few ammo cans, all filled with either Wolf 7.62x39 or surplus 7.62x54r, which attracts a magnet from 20 feet away. He will have at least two gun bags/cases, and at least three Kalashnikov type rifles. Most of his range time will be spent firing somewhat-aimed shots with a gripless AK and 30rd mags or 75rd drums, with breaks between mags to shoot a Mosin Nagant. The Com-Bloc Maniac will sometimes have an AR-15, but never shoots more than 30 rounds out of it per range trip, and even so, only steel-cased Russian ammo is used.

Good god, that describes you to a T.

The only person worse off would be JimmyD, who plans on getting a Soviet flag guidon and WWII Soviet uniform so he can lead glorious Mosin bayonet charges for mother Russia.

thefifthspeed
03-24-2008, 06:37 AM
The punk *** made me smile because when I first started shooting I shot a couple mil surps with cosmo still in the barrel...wondered why my groups sucked.:1eye:

smle-man
03-24-2008, 09:05 AM
Well, the range I shoot at has a bunch of different people who shoot for different reasons. They shoot firearms that range from cheap to expensive. Some are highly skilled and some are lucky the bullet goes in the general direction of the target. All are there to have fun. Been shooting at my range for 19 years and not once has anyone criticized one of my firearms, my shooting habits or done the typical favorite of gun forums, left in a huff because my shooting was better than theirs (it sometimes is). I'm glad I don't shoot at the ranges that some of you guys do since the folks there seem unpleasant and not having much fun.

ibanezfoo
03-24-2008, 09:31 AM
Wheres the average schmoe? Thats what I'd fit in...

-Bryan

1lostinspace
03-24-2008, 09:43 AM
The guy with the fine tuned AR using a good developed load making the steel plates scream Ding! from 200-600 yards and back keeping to him self.

bubejunkie
03-24-2008, 12:52 PM
HAHAHA . great write up. Had me chuckling! I think I fall slightly into the HOMIE category. However, I'm not a complete idiot. I'm working and learning to become a great shooter. BUT,when I take guests to the range they DO want to shoot "gangster style"
(sideways). I say NO, then give in and let them try it JUST once, then I get back to the "proper way to shoot" lesson. They just want to get it out of their system and have a laugh. Other than that, I always maintain great safety and teach my guests what was taught to me. Btw: my knowledge of basic shooting/safety came from a professional instructor, not some schmuck.

I'm having allot of fun. I just started a few months ago.

Solidsnake87
03-24-2008, 01:18 PM
So where does the student that likes to dress casual nice fit in? I bring an arsenal that takes 1-2 trips to unload, take my time shooting, and shoot for an entire day. I'm social and informative when others ask me about the kinds of stuff I have (like ARs).

ar15barrels
03-24-2008, 02:28 PM
The guy with the fine tuned AR using a good developed load making the steel plates scream Ding! from 200-600 yards and back keeping to him self.

Heh, that's me. :cool2:

maxicon
03-24-2008, 02:57 PM
I don't think I fit into any of the categories.

Turby

For me, they'd need one called The Accumulator or The Tweaker - someone who shows up with 6 guns (all in different calibers and styles), 8 scopes (all with different mounts), and 40 pounds of ammunition (ranging from milsurp to precision $2/round loads, in every bullet weight for each caliber), and spends the afternoon trying to get repeatable groups from every possible combination of gear. Writes extensive notes on each target, and often runs out of light before everything is zeroed...

Still, I have lots of fun doing it.

1lostinspace
03-24-2008, 03:01 PM
Heh, that's me. :cool2:

DING! :37:

Patriot
03-24-2008, 03:02 PM
For me, they'd need one called The Accumulator or The Tweaker - someone who shows up with 6 guns (all in different calibers and styles), 8 scopes (all with different mounts), and 40 pounds of ammunition (ranging from milsurp to precision $2/round loads, in every bullet weight for each caliber), and spends the afternoon trying to get repeatable groups from every possible combination of gear. Writes extensive notes on each target, and often runs out of light before everything is zeroed...

Still, I have lots of fun doing it.

Tweakers with guns :eek:

Solidsnake87
03-24-2008, 03:56 PM
The calgunner. Generally a very stoked shooter who simply loves to shoot, talk about shooting, watch others shoot, and is simply happy to be at any range at that time. Will gently attempt to correct many FUDs or misunderstandings the other shooter stereotypes will have. Loves the fact that you can own an AR built up properly without AW registration. Is also very stoked to talk with others in this genre.


Finally, a category in which I fit!

The Com-Bloc Nut

The Com-Bloc Nut usually comes to the range wearing a Wolf Ammo T-shirt. He brings a few ammo cans, all filled with either Wolf 7.62x39 or surplus 7.62x54r, which attracts a magnet from 20 feet away. He will have at least two gun bags/cases, and at least three Kalashnikov type rifles. Most of his range time will be spent firing somewhat-aimed shots with a gripless AK and 30rd mags or 75rd drums, with breaks between mags to shoot a Mosin Nagant. The Com-Bloc Maniac will sometimes have an AR-15, but never shoots more than 30 rounds out of it per range trip, and even so, only steel-cased Russian ammo is used.


I know a few of these!

ar15barrels
03-24-2008, 05:18 PM
DING! :37:

Except that I don't need a finely developed load for my AR in order to hit the plates from 200-600.
I'm running pulled WC844 under golden west bullets. :eek:

biscuitninja
03-24-2008, 10:03 PM
I came up with one for myself:

The Com-Bloc Nut

The Com-Bloc Nut usually comes to the range wearing a Wolf Ammo T-shirt. He brings a few ammo cans, all filled with either Wolf 7.62x39 or surplus 7.62x54r, which attracts a magnet from 20 feet away. He will have at least two gun bags/cases, and at least three Kalashnikov type rifles. ...with breaks between mags to shoot a Mosin Nagant.


Wow, umm... i have NO idea what you mean....:hide:

I've never mentioned how I checked out a yellow tip and it did indeed fly out of my hand (~2 ft) to the rare earth metal magnet. :TFH:

I did also have the unfortunately occurance of putting a few rounds THROUGH the 400 yard gong. That was fun up until I got kicked out and charged for the gong.... When I asked for it they were even MORE mad! ha ha.

good luck
-bix

ghideon
03-24-2008, 10:35 PM
I think I'll make a custom category, modeled (slightly) after myself...

The Lazy ***

Brings one gun (owns many). Brings at least 10 mags (also owns many). Brings a speed loader for that weapon type (UPLULA for pistols, LULA for ARs, Butler Creek for his 10/22). Doesn't believe in target changes (too lazy to walk down range 7 times a trip), and places enough dots/ShootNSees on a target for the entire session. Doesn't understand why others don't do the same. Spends all of his time during the ceasefire loading mags, and then smokes a cig waiting for the ceasefire to end. When involved in a conversation with another shooter, tends to reply "Oh, I have one of those, they're really nice. Didn't feel like bringing it today..."

wksun88
03-24-2008, 11:44 PM
The Cheap-*** Milsurp guy

Only buys milsurp rifles under 200 dollars. Most of his guns will make nearby shooters go deaf.

1lostinspace
03-24-2008, 11:57 PM
Except that I don't need a finely developed load for my AR in order to hit the plates from 200-600.
I'm running pulled WC844 under golden west bullets. :eek:


here are my reloads at 200 yards

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/IMAGE_00131-1.jpg

Two Shots
03-25-2008, 12:01 AM
ISN'T THAT POWDER BURNS AROUND THE HOLES?






Couldn't resist, Just kidding nice group.

aklon
03-25-2008, 04:56 AM
Live and let live, as they say, but my real peeve at the range is the guy that stays behind while everybody else is checking their target and picks up all the brass whether it's his or not.

I ran into one of these guys at Richmond Rod & Gun last week when my pal and I were cleaning up our inventory of .308 (we have a lot) shooting M1As just for the sheer fun of it. On our way back from the change we both saw this yahoo cleaning up our area. Needless to say, we quickly arrived at a firm understanding with this fellow who dropped the brass and stayed at his end of the range for the rest of the day - and who knows what he was kyping down there.

EdinKali
03-25-2008, 09:42 AM
The list maker forgot to include the punk-a** variant that shoots other people's targets and when confronted about it, tells you to f*%& off and that it is a public range and if the target is out there he can shoot at it.

biscuitninja
03-25-2008, 10:26 AM
The list maker forgot to include the punk-a** variant that shoots other people's targets and when confronted about it, tells you to f*%& off and that it is a public range and if the target is out there he can shoot at it.

Wow, what a jerk. I would not use any stuff at that point and wait till said idiot leaves. This is why I favor private ranges. Idiots like this ruin it for everybody. :mad:

I also like it when they come up to you and demand that you let them shoot it... because its "neighborly". Yea, umm, no.
-bix

Two Shots
03-26-2008, 02:02 AM
The list maker forgot the worse one, The Gun Snob who knows all, Has better equipment, Thinks he is the greatest thing. Looks around and judges the other shooters and then makes comments to his friend. Believes he should be watched and admired at his shooting skills. Shoots a super cool tatical rifle that can't keep a group under 6'', Gets mad at the Bubba next to him for shooting a Cheap Mosin or Mauser and grouping under 4''. Then gets pissed when a guy is hitting the target at 100 yds with a 357 mag and he runs and tells the RO "He can't do that" (Snitch) pointing at the shooter with the 6'' S&W.
Life was so easy when people shot for fun and just worried about being a safe shooter. I have never had anyone demand to shoot a weapon, I've had people ask about them and I'll tell them what it is and offer them a few rounds to shoot it. If some idiots came up and acted like the ones EdinKali and Biscuitninja had said I may have Butt Stroked them.

CrippledPidgeon
03-26-2008, 02:24 PM
My variation on the Idiot Girlfriend

8. The Idiot Couple
The Idiot Guy goes to the range with his Big-5 Mosin to show off how much noise he can make to his Idiot Girlfriend. The Idiot Guy is predictably a bad shot, but with his Mosin, he sure makes a lot of impressive noise. The Idiot Girlfriend does not want to be at the range, and likely does not care how much noise the Idiot Guy can make, but she's there so that he can stroke his ego. She's also woefully unprepared for the range, and if she's elite enough, manages to make it to the firing line without eye or ear protection with the rangemaster not noticing. The Elite Idiot Girlfriend annoys everyone on the line with her screaming, goes deaf, gets kicked off the range, or all of the above.

GenLee
03-26-2008, 02:46 PM
The calgunner. Generally a very stoked shooter who simply loves to shoot, talk about shooting, watch others shoot, and is simply happy to be at any range at that time. Will gently attempt to correct many FUDs or misunderstandings the other shooter stereotypes will have. Loves the fact that you can own an AR built up properly without AW registration. Is also very stoked to talk with others in this genre.

Finally a stereotype I fit into. I was starting to feel left out.;)

GenLee
03-26-2008, 02:54 PM
I think I'll make a custom category, modeled (slightly) after myself...

The Lazy ***

Brings one gun (owns many). Brings at least 10 mags (also owns many). Brings a speed loader for that weapon type (UPLULA for pistols, LULA for ARs, Butler Creek for his 10/22). Doesn't believe in target changes (too lazy to walk down range 7 times a trip), and places enough dots/ShootNSees on a target for the entire session. Doesn't understand why others don't do the same. Spends all of his time during the ceasefire loading mags, and then smokes a cig waiting for the ceasefire to end. When involved in a conversation with another shooter, tends to reply "Oh, I have one of those, they're really nice. Didn't feel like bringing it today..."

This one fits me almost as well as the CalGunner, Ok maybe better. But I always bring at least two guns.

InvictusManeo
03-26-2008, 03:52 PM
Hmm... I'm definitely an amateur, but not "punk a**": My import is large and does not scrape, I at least hit the paper with every shot (though occasionally missing the target) and the only moronic position I ever shoot from is one handed, fully extended point-shooting.

I take my Big5 Mosin and my girlfriend (idiot couple?) who doesn't know much about guns, but enjoys shooting greatly and is generally a better shot than me.

Often confused for "the hippie" due to long hair and beard, even though hippies are the one branch of society that I absolutely can not stand.

I'm really lost as to where I fit in here...

Two Shots
03-26-2008, 06:34 PM
[QUOTE=InvictusManeo;1092092]I'm really lost as to where I fit in here..

I'd say your a gun owner that enjoys shooting a fun rifle. Also it's good to see a Wife/GF participate in the sport.