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Prc329
03-14-2008, 1:38 PM
I have a 300 Win Mag in my future. Just out of curiosity what other calibers could it be re-barreled to that would be useful for long range (as in past 1000) precision fun.

My plan is to shoot out the factory barrel and re-barrel it but I am not sure if I should keep it a 300 Win Mag or do something else. It would not be a competition rig and barrel life is not a worry for me. I would like to hit targets 1200 or more.

wildcard
03-14-2008, 1:41 PM
I have a 300 Win Mag in my future. Just out of curiosity what other calibers could it be re-barreled to that would be useful for long range (as in past 1000) precision fun.

My plan is to shoot out the factory barrel and re-barrel it but I am not sure if I should keep it a 300 Win Mag or do something else. It would not be a competition rig and barrel life is not a worry for me. I would like to hit targets 1200 or more.

I'd keep it as is. It will get to 1200 with no problems.

PistolPete75
03-14-2008, 1:46 PM
long action calibers

270 Win.
30-06 Springfield
300 Win Mag.
7mm Rem. Mag.
7mm Rem.
300 Rem.
7mm Rem. Ultra Mag.
300 Rem. Ultra Mag.

but as suggested by wildcard, i would leave it as a 300winmag.

Prc329
03-14-2008, 1:47 PM
I'd keep it as is. It will get to 1200 with no problems.

Probably will but I like to tinker or have someone else tinker.

ivanimal
03-14-2008, 1:50 PM
300 Winmag is my go to gun for just about everything.

Leave it or go with an ultra mag I have a 338 Ultra that will reach out to 1200 and still knock over a beast.

Fjold
03-14-2008, 1:51 PM
The 300 win mag has a .532 boltface so unless you have a new bolt or a Savage that you can change the bolt head on you have to use another magnum cartridge.

The 375 H&H length (like the RUMs) cartridges will require action work to open up the feed rails and the magazine length and ejection port.

The easiest conversion that will only require the barrel to be changed will be to the 264 Mag, 7 Mag and 338 Mag

PistolPete75
03-14-2008, 1:51 PM
a 300 win, .338 lupua, etc is like the maximum distance shooting one can go staying within practicality. how many places do you know that you can go that far out to shoot?

Prc329
03-14-2008, 1:55 PM
I didn't think you could run a 338 lapua magnum in the action.

wildcard
03-14-2008, 1:56 PM
I didn't think you could run a 338 lapua magnum in the action.

You can.. it's just not recommended..

Californio
03-14-2008, 2:01 PM
I have a 300 Win Mag in my future. Just out of curiosity what other calibers could it be re-barreled to that would be useful for long range (as in past 1000) precision fun.

My plan is to shoot out the factory barrel and re-barrel it but I am not sure if I should keep it a 300 Win Mag or do something else. It would not be a competition rig and barrel life is not a worry for me. I would like to hit targets 1200 or more.

Take a look at the 300 Rem Ultra Mag if you reload.

Prc329
03-14-2008, 2:01 PM
I enjoy having my face as sexy as it is so I think I won't do that. Maybe tax time next year I'll build a 338 or get my ferret 50 upper in 338 when they are available again.

rksimple
03-14-2008, 2:39 PM
Have you thought about the 7mmRM?

rksimple
03-14-2008, 2:39 PM
how many places do you know that you can go that far out to shoot?

LOTS!:D

ar15barrels
03-14-2008, 3:03 PM
LOTS!:D

Desert dweller. :sleeping:

Cypriss32
03-14-2008, 6:25 PM
7wsm thats it! I wouldnt do 300wm. My 30-06 shoots 210gr VLDs as fast as you can shoot them out of you win mag. I have cronied them at 2900fps, ask Bill he did it for me.

Or build a 30-06 and have Randy spec it out like mine.

hypertex
03-14-2008, 6:31 PM
T

The easiest conversion that will only require the barrel to be changed will be to the 264 Mag, 7 Mag and 338 Mag

Hey...what's up with that? Don't forget 8mm Remington Magnum. Compare those ballistics!

PistolPete75
03-14-2008, 8:02 PM
LOTS!:D

uh oh. don't tell me. i don't want to know. my gun budget is now zero dollars.

rksimple
03-14-2008, 9:05 PM
Desert dweller. :sleeping:

The desert's just close. This ain't the desert:

From my front yard
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b82/rksimple/0124080658.jpg

Cypriss32
03-14-2008, 10:18 PM
Can someone make me a chart for 30-06, 2900fps 210gr VLDS .631BC 26.5" barrel, APS elevation, MOA for adjustments.

Bill you want to go early and 865 it?

Timberwolf
03-14-2008, 11:17 PM
Can someone make me a chart for 30-06, 2900fps 210gr VLDS .631BC 26.5" barrel, APS elevation, MOA for adjustments.

Bill you want to go early and 865 it?

Can't do it Sunday - its Palm Sunday so I'll be going to Mass before work.

Cypriss32
03-14-2008, 11:36 PM
Whats your work/Range APS schedule for sundaY?

Timberwolf
03-14-2008, 11:41 PM
Whats your work/Range APS schedule for sundaY?

I should be out of Mass by 0800 so I should be in between 0830 and 0900

Prc329
03-14-2008, 11:50 PM
Pete, myself and I believe Wildcard will be there sunday.

Cypriss32
03-14-2008, 11:51 PM
Allright will get up and handle bussiness as ussual.... Will be there with the kids again babysitting.

rksimple
03-14-2008, 11:58 PM
Are you guys still planning on coming up to the spot after APS? They say 40% chance of snow for us. The spot will probably be fine, but windy.

ar15barrels
03-15-2008, 12:10 AM
Can someone make me a chart for 30-06, 2900fps 210gr VLDS .631BC 26.5" barrel, APS elevation, MOA for adjustments.

Not sure of the elevation and I'm too lazy to go find my log book...


Tabular trajectory data at Non-Std. Atmosphere
Gunsite altitude : 3700 ft.
Air density : 0.072982 lb./ft³
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Gun / Ammunition : 30-06
Bullet : .308, 210, Berger VLD
Bullet weight : 210 grains or 13.61 Grams
Muzzle velocity : 2900 fps
Crosswind speed : 10 Mph
Ballistic Coefficient(s) (G1):
C1=0.631@V>0 fps;


Optimum trajectory information :
Optimum sight-in range (X) = 224 Yds.
with max. ordinate above LOS at range (M)= 133 Yds.
and max. point blank range (P)= 260 Yds.
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Sight-in clicks, 1 click = 0.665 cm/100 yd. or 0.262 in/100 yd.
Height of sight above bore axis = 5.08 cm or 2.00 inch
Gun is zeroed-in at 100 yds,
by sighting-in at level firing
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Range Velo Time of Energy Path Deflection Total Sight correction Target
city flight to at crosswind drop for setting new lead
LOS of 10.0 Mph zero range 33 fps
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·Yards fps s ft.lbs. in. in. MOA in. Clicks MOA yds ·
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| 0 2900 0.0000 3921 -2.0 0.0 ----- 0.0 ------ ----- 0.00
| 25 2864 0.0261 3825 -1.1 0.0 0.14 0.1 +16.7 +4.17 0.29
| 50 2829 0.0525 3731 -0.4 0.1 0.26 0.5 +3.5 +0.86 0.57
| 75 2793 0.0793 3638 -0.1 0.3 0.39 1.2 +0.4 +0.11 0.87
M 95 2765 0.1010 3566 0.0 0.5 0.48 1.9 0.0 -0.01 1.10
X 100 2758 0.1065 3548 0.0 0.5 0.51 2.2 0.0 0.00 1.16
| 125 2724 0.1340 3459 -0.2 0.8 0.63 3.4 +0.6 +0.16 1.47
| 150 2689 0.1618 3372 -0.7 1.2 0.75 4.9 +1.8 +0.45 1.77
| 175 2655 0.1900 3287 -1.5 1.6 0.86 6.8 +3.3 +0.82 2.08
P 187 2639 0.2036 3247 -2.0 1.8 0.92 7.8 +4.1 +1.02 2.23
| 200 2621 0.2185 3204 -2.6 2.0 0.98 8.9 +5.0 +1.25 2.39
| 225 2588 0.2473 3122 -4.0 2.6 1.09 11.4 +6.8 +1.71 2.70
| 250 2554 0.2764 3042 -5.7 3.1 1.20 14.1 +8.8 +2.20 3.02
| 275 2521 0.3059 2964 -7.8 3.8 1.31 17.2 +10.9 +2.72 3.35
| 300 2488 0.3355 2887 -10.1 4.4 1.41 20.7 +13.0 +3.25 3.67
| 325 2456 0.3655 2812 -12.9 5.2 1.51 24.4 +15.2 +3.80 4.00
| 350 2423 0.3960 2738 -15.9 6.0 1.63 28.5 +17.5 +4.37 4.33
| 375 2391 0.4271 2665 -19.4 6.9 1.76 33.1 +19.8 +4.96 4.67
| 400 2359 0.4587 2595 -23.3 7.9 1.89 38.0 +22.3 +5.57 5.02
| 425 2327 0.4908 2525 -27.5 9.0 2.02 43.3 +24.8 +6.21 5.37
| 450 2296 0.5234 2458 -32.2 10.2 2.16 49.0 +27.4 +6.85 5.72
| 475 2265 0.5564 2391 -37.3 11.4 2.30 55.1 +30.1 +7.52 6.08
| 500 2234 0.5899 2327 -42.8 12.8 2.44 61.7 +32.8 +8.20 6.45
| 525 2203 0.6239 2263 -48.8 14.2 2.59 68.7 +35.6 +8.89 6.82
| 550 2173 0.6583 2201 -55.2 15.7 2.73 76.1 +38.4 +9.60 7.20
| 575 2142 0.6932 2140 -62.1 17.3 2.87 84.0 +41.3 +10.33 7.58
| 600 2112 0.7284 2080 -69.4 19.0 3.02 92.4 +44.2 +11.06 7.97
| 625 2083 0.7641 2022 -77.2 20.7 3.16 101.2 +47.2 +11.81 8.36
| 650 2053 0.8002 1965 -85.4 22.5 3.31 110.5 +50.3 +12.57 8.75
| 675 2023 0.8368 1909 -94.1 24.4 3.45 120.3 +53.3 +13.34 9.15
| 700 1995 0.8736 1855 -103.3 26.3 3.59 130.5 +56.5 +14.11 9.55
| 725 1966 0.9106 1801 -112.9 28.3 3.72 141.2 +59.6 +14.89 9.96
| 750 1937 0.9485 1749 -123.2 30.4 3.87 152.5 +62.8 +15.71 10.37
| 775 1908 0.9873 1698 -134.1 32.7 4.02 164.5 +66.2 +16.55 10.80
| 800 1880 1.0269 1648 -145.7 35.1 4.19 177.1 +69.7 +17.42 11.23
| 825 1852 1.0673 1600 -158.0 37.6 4.36 190.4 +73.2 +18.31 11.67
| 850 1825 1.1084 1553 -171.0 40.3 4.53 204.5 +76.9 +19.23 12.12
| 875 1798 1.1503 1507 -184.7 43.1 4.71 219.2 +80.7 +20.18 12.58
| 900 1771 1.1928 1463 -199.1 46.1 4.89 234.7 +84.6 +21.15 13.05
| 925 1745 1.2361 1419 -214.3 49.1 5.07 250.9 +88.6 +22.14 13.52
| 950 1719 1.2799 1377 -230.2 52.3 5.26 267.8 +92.6 +23.16 14.00
| 975 1693 1.3244 1336 -246.8 55.6 5.44 285.5 +96.8 +24.19 14.48
| 1000 1667 1.3695 1296 -264.2 59.0 5.63 303.9 +101.0 +25.24 14.98
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M = Peak vs. L.O.S, X = Set Zero, P = Max. Point Blank Range
Elevation above Angle of Site (0.0 deg.) = 0.0661 deg.

PistolPete75
03-15-2008, 12:47 AM
i'm good for whatever. i just need to get nayt's rifle tested, and do some shooting before the match. got to get that rust off my fingers.

i'll go along with the general consesus.

how about we all meet at aps, and then take it from there? worse comes to worse and it rains, we have aps to shoot. you can zero in, practice offhand, and do some 5 dot drills.

PistolPete75
03-15-2008, 12:56 AM
Pete, myself and I believe Wildcard will be there sunday.

joe is coming too. ryan, can you make it down?

Fjold
03-15-2008, 9:58 AM
Hey...what's up with that? Don't forget 8mm Remington Magnum. Compare those ballistics!


The 8mm Rem Mag has a longer case than the 300 Win mag and will require that the feedramp, the magazine and the ejection port be machined.

I was listing the cartridges that would drop with just a barrel change.

rksimple
03-15-2008, 11:31 AM
joe is coming too. ryan, can you make it down?

Probably not down to APS. I didn't know if you guys were coming up here afterwards. Its snowing today, but not sticking. Not cold enough yet.

Prc329
03-15-2008, 5:16 PM
I hope it ain't this windy tomorrow. Gotta zero my rifle and chrono my load.

DON AUGUSTINE
03-15-2008, 5:50 PM
Bill
can you shoot farther than a 100 yrds at APS tomarrow? If so I will come out with my son so I can get all the info I need for the N/S gig if not its up to the ranch.

Timberwolf
03-15-2008, 10:38 PM
Bill
can you shoot farther than a 100 yrds at APS tomarrow? If so I will come out with my son so I can get all the info I need for the N/S gig if not its up to the ranch.

Not with regularity - I'm going in late tomorrow so no early morning stuff.