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low94noma
03-13-2008, 6:43 PM
The Big 5 in Manteca currently has an AK in stock with a detach 10 rounder with a welded muzzle brake. Ready to shoot! Its priced at 249.99 + tax and DROS. I unfortunately do not have any money for it right now but though I would thought I would post it for someone to snatch up. Id rather have it go to a responsible gun owner than a wanna be thug thinking hes cool:cool2:. Please let me know if you are going to check it out. Mainly for the reason I want to know it will go to a good home:D. Kepp me posted if you are going to check it out! Post here!

theseacow
03-13-2008, 6:46 PM
does it have an MM grip or no grip? I've seen sks's at big5, but never an AK...

hoozaru
03-13-2008, 6:46 PM
Big5 is selling AK? :eek:

SS109
03-13-2008, 6:47 PM
Pump action?

aplinker
03-13-2008, 6:47 PM
:confused::confused:

You sure?

low94noma
03-13-2008, 6:48 PM
AK or AK style Replica but 7.62 x 39. Has pistol grip!

kilword
03-13-2008, 6:49 PM
pistol grip with detachable mag?
thats a no no

low94noma
03-13-2008, 6:50 PM
Maybe it was pump action! Hmm...I didnt ask anyone to bring it down, sh**. I only went there to grab a bottle of gun oil. Da**. Heres their number (209)825-2710. Hmm, I should have gotten a better look.

69Mach1
03-13-2008, 6:50 PM
I just called. It's a Romanian PAR1 pump action.

hoozaru
03-13-2008, 6:51 PM
sounds like a pump action, but i still cannot believe it.

low94noma
03-13-2008, 6:52 PM
Pump action or not, I havent seen anything along the lines of that at any big 5,. They have a M1 Garand for 999.00 also .30 car.

rkt88edmo
03-13-2008, 6:53 PM
still is pretty amazing for Big5 to be stocking it

hoozaru
03-13-2008, 7:01 PM
after wut happened at BSP, could it be that big5 is sending PRK gun community a message?

or i am just retardly optimistic

Hopi
03-13-2008, 7:22 PM
after wut happened at BSP, could it be that big5 is sending PRK gun community a message?

or i am just retardly optimistic

Big 5 buys bulk and cheap. Generally, if something does not sell well (like that POS pump ak) Big 5 buys it up for pennies on the dollar and then rolls out 'big sales'......

wilit
03-13-2008, 7:22 PM
after wut happened at BSP, could it be that big5 is sending PRK gun community a message?

or i am just retardly optimistic

It was probably a shipping mistake. It was meant to go to a Nevada Big 5. :D

WokMaster1
03-13-2008, 7:26 PM
Pump action or not, I havent seen anything along the lines of that at any big 5,. They have a M1 Garand for 999.00 also .30 car.

M1 Garand???? or M1 Carbine?

76231b
03-13-2008, 7:31 PM
What condition are these pump AK's in?

Hopi
03-13-2008, 7:33 PM
What condition are these pump AK's in?

It shouldn't matter, don't buy one. They are a serious POS. If you had every other gun in the world in your safes, then I'd say u should consider it....

low94noma
03-13-2008, 7:36 PM
I beleive it was marked .30 carbing but double check by calling them!

Fast Eddie
03-13-2008, 7:46 PM
One of my friends who works at Big 5 sent me this pic of it today, pump action AK $249, :ack2:
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6280/akjc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

wilit
03-13-2008, 7:46 PM
I beleive it was marked .30 carbing but double check by calling them!

Then that's an M1 Carbine, not Garand.

Bucc
03-13-2008, 7:55 PM
One thing I've always wondered about pump AKs is..........why?

low94noma
03-13-2008, 7:57 PM
Then that's an M1 Carbine, not Garand.
My apologies. I'm not a big fan of old war rifles. I obviously dont know much about them , lol:p.

low94noma
03-13-2008, 7:58 PM
One thing I've always wondered about pump AKs is..........why?
I guess some companies found it as a way for us Californians to have fun. I guess they should have tried harder.

philthy209
03-13-2008, 8:21 PM
there is no way big 5 has any ak type gun for sale i call BS.

hoozaru
03-13-2008, 8:22 PM
One thing I've always wondered about pump AKs is..........why?

from the AW ban years?

Okami
03-13-2008, 8:27 PM
Yep, saw a PAR-1 at the Big 5 in Palm Springs today. $249

nickabeans
03-13-2008, 9:14 PM
i saw one as well in burbank.

Chimera
03-13-2008, 9:26 PM
Looks like a normal ak receiver. Possible to modify to semi with misc. parts? California compliant of course.

Chimera
03-13-2008, 10:32 PM
Nevermind. Found conversions. Might as well build from an nds3 or get cheap wasr10

Crazed_SS
03-13-2008, 11:10 PM
One thing I've always wondered about pump AKs is..........why?

My friend has one of those.. it's kinda nifty. It's no dumber than the single shot AR pistols or whatever ridiculous stuff people are always trying to build here.

I always wondered what kind of receivers they were built on.

UncleJohnny
03-13-2008, 11:45 PM
Found this about these romy pump ak's...

http://www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/model2.htm

Hopi
03-14-2008, 9:13 AM
My friend has one of those.. it's kinda nifty. It's no dumber than the single shot AR pistols or whatever ridiculous stuff people are always trying to build here.

I always wondered what kind of receivers they were built on.

Now there's a guy that doesn't get it.....some people see a door and stop, some people realize there is more behind the door......

AJAX22
03-14-2008, 9:42 AM
I'm of the opinion that POS or not, we should all run out and buy one just so that Big 5 corporate sees that there is a market for this sort of 'non sporting' firearm.

If Big 5 decided to get into the OLL game, they have a legal Budget that could feed the DOJ its ballocks in sandwich form.

FEDUPWBS
03-14-2008, 9:51 AM
If BIG 5 gets in the game we win!! I will only say ths one time. If you want a real romy built receiver the pump AK comes equipped with one ;).

brokestudent12
03-14-2008, 10:26 AM
how much work and how difficult would it be to convert to semi auto? anyone know

thedrickel
03-14-2008, 10:33 AM
how much work and how difficult would it be to convert to semi auto? anyone know

Swap out the whole front end w/o damaging the receiver. It wouldn't be fun and would take 100$ in parts, but it could be done.

vega
03-14-2008, 12:46 PM
there is no way big 5 has any ak type gun for sale i call BS.Want to wager on it?

duenor
03-14-2008, 12:51 PM
okay. ill buy one if you guys will. $249 to make a statement.

redneckshootist
03-14-2008, 1:01 PM
went to big 5 in woodland today they have one there, I checked it out. not too bad.

maxicon
03-14-2008, 1:59 PM
okay. ill buy one if you guys will. $249 to make a statement.

Yep, I'd be tempted to do this if it gets them more into that market segment.

I've got one right up the street and will check them out.

AJAX22
03-14-2008, 5:00 PM
I was just reading up on the web about these, Apparently it isn't much work to convert them to semiauto. (wayyyyy less than doing a build ;))

So its not just a statement that we'd like to see big 5 sell more of these, its also a nifty project.

railroader
03-14-2008, 5:09 PM
I had one. It worked ok except steel case shells would get stuck in the chamber sometimes. I would have to hit the butt on the ground(my shooting carpet) while I held the pump handle to get the shell to eject. I like my saiga better. Mark

elSquid
03-14-2008, 5:22 PM
I like my saiga better. Mark

Wouldn't it be great if Big 5 sold Saigas? (sigh)

-- Michael

blackbok
03-14-2008, 5:38 PM
Just checked one out at the Westminister (OC) Big 5. Surreal to see anything AK on that shelf, especially with a PG.

Chimera
03-14-2008, 5:58 PM
Swap out the whole front end w/o damaging the receiver. It wouldn't be fun and would take 100$ in parts, but it could be done.
I think you could use the existing trunion and press a new bbl in and add a new gas tube. Looks like you'll need a charging handle as well.

Gator Monroe
03-14-2008, 6:02 PM
They work hard in the Fields down there and deserve the right to have arms (A right they do not have in their home country )

CSACANNONEER
03-14-2008, 6:19 PM
I can't wait to find out what their "sale price" will be?

wilit
03-14-2008, 7:21 PM
Hmmm... Do I see a pump action AK pistol with the ability to have a PG and detachable pre-ban hi-caps in someone's future?

SkyMag68
03-14-2008, 7:43 PM
interestin I need to drop by Big5 get hand on look myself ..:D

FEDUPWBS
03-14-2008, 8:30 PM
Looks like I will be doing a conversion real soon, just need a doner gun;). Ill do a write up on the build for you guys.

LECTRIKHED
03-14-2008, 9:45 PM
I'm going to go check it out. This might be a nice alternative for us. I know the law, but am not ready to take the leap to a bullet button. Saiga would be nice but they don't have them for sale locally in sac.

blackbok
03-14-2008, 10:06 PM
Anyone have links/info on a conversion?

FEDUPWBS
03-14-2008, 10:16 PM
Anyone have links/info on a conversion?

Its a simple demill and rebuild.

What does Big5 charge for DROS?

jacques
03-14-2008, 10:32 PM
Its a simple demill and rebuild.

What does Big5 charge for DROS?

WOnt you have your hands full with a VZ build? I tried to get my barrel off today with no luck.

low94noma
03-14-2008, 11:11 PM
Its a simple demill and rebuild.

What does Big5 charge for DROS?
I believe 30 for DROS + fee. That or they do not even charge one if you buy a firearm from them. I bought my mossberg for 219.99 and after tax and DROS it came to 265.00. So its safe to say 25.00 or 30.00.

69Mach1
03-14-2008, 11:29 PM
They charge $35 for DROS. That's what it cost me to do a PPT for my Kel Tec SU16CA.

And, PAR1 receivers are basically your standard Romanian AK receivers.

RedDawn
03-14-2008, 11:40 PM
Already been done. :cool:

It's pretty easy, but not practical. IMHO
It's cheaper and easier to just buy a Romy from one of the vendors here. I believe they're currently selling for 349.00 right now. Wasr10 DD's ranch?

The Par-1 from Big 5 is going for 249.99. If you can find just the front end alone...it goes for around 75.00. The bolt carrier group is another 125.00. Of course you can simply buy a Romy parts kit for say 150-180.00, and get all the parts you need for the swap.

In the end, you'll spend about 2-5 hours, depending on your skill level, and about 400-550.00 for something you could have bought out-right for 349.00. Plus dros and tax of course. :rolleyes:

But there is something to be said about a Do-It-Yourself project, and the satisfaction of completing a build...:D
And of course creating a demand at Big 5 for OLL rifles.

Best of luck to those who plan on pursuing this project though.

FEDUPWBS
03-14-2008, 11:41 PM
WOnt you have your hands full with a VZ build? I tried to get my barrel off today with no luck.

My hands are always full, thats why my back hurts.

FEDUPWBS
03-14-2008, 11:45 PM
Already been done. :cool:

It's pretty easy, but not practical. IMHO
It's cheaper and easier to just buy a Romy from one of the vendors here. I believe they're currently selling for 349.00 right now. Wasr10 DD's ranch?

The Par-1 from Big 5 is going for 249.99. If you can find just the front end alone...it goes for around 75.00. The bolt carrier group is another 125.00. Of course you can simply buy a Romy parts kit for say 150-180.00, and get all the parts you need for the swap.

In the end, you'll spend about 2-5 hours, depending on your skill level, and about 400-550.00 for something you could have bought out-right for 349.00. Plus dros and tax of course. :rolleyes:

But there is something to be said about a Do-It-Yourself project, and the satisfaction of completing a build...:D
And of course creating a demand at Big 5 for OLL rifles.

Best of luck to those who plan on pursuing this project though.

Wow with your superior build skills Ill just take your advise and quit as its already been done before.:rolleyes:. It would take me a few days at best to perform the entire job ;). Since I have 1 or 2 kits somewhere around here I might give it a try. It would be worth it for a "real" Romy thats not a POS WASR.

FEDUPWBS
03-14-2008, 11:50 PM
Looks like I found some of them ;).

RedDawn
03-14-2008, 11:55 PM
Wow with your superior build skills Ill just take your advise and quit as its already been done before.:rolleyes:. It would take me a few days at best to perform the entire job ;). Since I have 1 or 2 kits somewhere around here I might give it a try. It would be worth it for a "real" Romy thats not a POS WASR.

It's pretty easy...
Press out the trunion retaining pin and extract the pump front. Press on the new front and replace trunion pin. Replace bolt carrier group with new one that has the charging handle. You're basically done. The toughest part of the job is getting the trunion pin and pump front off of course.:43:
There's no rivetting or worrying about headspacing with the Par-1, when using demilled parts.

1,200 wolf rounds later, and there's still no FTF or malfunctions.:D
If the Russians were to build and import cars like the AK, we'd be flooded with cars that would never see the scrap yard.:chris:

RedDawn
03-15-2008, 12:00 AM
Then again...

I still have a Bulgarian parts kit lying around that looks like it wants to see some action. I've been waiting for a company to make a milled OLL, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen.

Big 5 to the rescue!

I smell another project...
I'm gonna have to think of a way to get this passed my wife first though...haha:D

FEDUPWBS
03-15-2008, 12:15 AM
It's pretty easy...
Press out the trunion retaining pin and extract the pump front. Press on the new front and replace trunion pin. Replace bolt carrier group with new one that has the charging handle. You're basically done. The toughest part of the job is getting the trunion pin and pump front off of course.:43:
There's no rivetting or worrying about headspacing with the Par-1, when using demilled parts.

1,200 wolf rounds later, and there's still no FTF or malfunctions.:D
If the Russians were to build and import cars like the AK, we'd be flooded with cars that would never see the scrap yard.:chris:

So far you must be lucky. YOU MUST HEADSPACE CHECK WHEN CHANGING ANY ONE OF BOLT, BARREL, OR FRONT TRUNNION. If you dont know what you are talking about please dont spread dangerous information on our forum.

jacques
03-15-2008, 12:27 AM
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k119/fedupwbs/kits001.jpg

Looks like I found some of them ;).

Now that is impressive. Like a kid in a candy factory.............

RedDawn
03-15-2008, 12:42 AM
So far you must be lucky. YOU MUST HEADSPACE CHECK WHEN CHANGING ANY ONE OF BOLT, BARREL, OR FRONT TRUNNION. If you dont know what you are talking about please dont spread dangerous information on our forum.

:rolleyes:
Alright, alright, shish..I'm sorry.
I forgot to mention using demilled Romy parts. Romanian front, romanian bolt group. And of course replacing certain parts to be 922r compliant.
In addition I scribed where the orginal PAR-1 barrel was seated in the trunion, since the trunion is not removed, the barrel must be seated exactly were it is scribed to match the original headspace, as well as measuring and comparing the barrel notches to make sure they matched up to ensure proper fit an alignment.

But you're absolutely right, the previous posts were too carefree and too assuming of everyone's abilities. :)

low94noma
03-15-2008, 12:48 AM
OMG....Now I feel I have contributed to people emptying their pocketbooks...:kest:...Don't kill the messenger, lol...

rue
03-15-2008, 1:02 AM
Please post how to convert it, I'm buying one...

RedDawn
03-15-2008, 1:21 AM
Sorry, FEDUPWBS' sobering words have made me realize it's not as easy as simply telling someone how to do it.

I wouldn't be comfortable describing the process, just because I'm not a detail oriented person when it comes to putting thoughts on paper. I'm sure I'd miss a step or too, which may result in injuries or worse.:chris:
I simply wanted to go on the record as it is possible to convert the PAR-1 to semi, for an experienced builder.

Please simply buy a complete Off-list rifle if you're new to building. You'll have way more safe and enjoyable days out at the range this way.

thedrickel
03-15-2008, 1:38 AM
:rolleyes:
Alright, alright, shish..I'm sorry.
I forgot to mention using demilled Romy parts. Romanian front, romanian bolt group. And of course replacing certain parts to be 922r compliant.
In addition I scribed where the orginal PAR-1 barrel was seated in the trunion, since the trunion is not removed, the barrel must be seated exactly were it is scribed to match the original headspace, as well as measuring and comparing the barrel notches to make sure they matched up to ensure proper fit an alignment.

But you're absolutely right, the previous posts were too carefree and too assuming of everyone's abilities. :)

Not everyone can eyeball the headspace. It'd be a lot safer and easier in the long run to swap out the trunnion, it's not that hard since you're taking the barrel out anyway.

valleyrat
03-16-2008, 8:10 AM
How about removing the barrel without demilling the trunnion, pressing the SA front end and head spacing that barrel to the bolt it came with? There is no guarantee that the holes drilled for the existing trunnion will match up with another trunnion. Extreme egging may be required. I would rather over drill the cross pin hole that mess with the original romy rivets if possible.

FEDUPWBS
03-16-2008, 8:27 AM
Um, your installing a rome trunnion in a romy receiver "egging" would be minimal. Headspace issue is more of a problem when changing the trunnion. If you have a complete front use it (not to mention # matching less receiver), use your bolt and carrier change top cover and viola' you have a correct 100% romanian built receiver, and thats not all bad.

hawk81
03-16-2008, 8:54 AM
You can turn this pump ak into a real ak using an ak prts kit.

hawk81
03-16-2008, 8:56 AM
I have done it and it works great. I pressed out the barrel with a hydraulic press. It headspaced fine.

valleyrat
03-16-2008, 10:11 AM
Um, your installing a rome trunnion in a romy receiver "egging" would be minimal. Headspace issue is more of a problem when changing the trunnion. If you have a complete front use it (not to mention # matching less receiver), use your bolt and carrier change top cover and viola' you have a correct 100% romanian built receiver, and thats not all bad.

Is there a SN on the receiver? Matching numbers would definitely be cool.

Forever-A-Soldier
03-16-2008, 3:43 PM
Yep, saw a PAR-1 at the Big 5 in Palm Springs today. $249

Yep, it's still there today. Saw while buying a Steyr M95 for $79.00!

F.A.S. Out

Okami
03-16-2008, 4:44 PM
Nice score!
Any good ranges out there, i'm in beaumont and could use a change. :chris:

Yep, it's still there today. Saw while buying a Steyr M95 for $79.00!

F.A.S. Out

LECTRIKHED
03-16-2008, 5:00 PM
I went to the Big 5 in Davis CA. They had it sitting on the shelf. The manager that I spoke to said that she did not know how long they would be carrying them or how many Big 5 has. She said that some of the stores have .223 versions for sale. She suggested that Woodland might have the 223 version. She was nice, except she told me that 223 ammo was much cheaper than 762 x 39. I politely told her that prices had recently gone way up on 223. This woman actually knows a bit more about firearms than most of their employees.

Rifle was nice. I've never had the honor to hold or see a real AK in person. This one felt good in my hands. Cocking it was a little bit more difficult than normal shotguns. Not too tough. It looked like it could be easily converted if you wanted to. Although I don't see the point of doing that.

I might buy one and fix it up with a folding stock. It looks like it would be a really fun blasting gun. It would also work well on Zombies. Overall my opinion was that this is a good gun. Folding stock would be really fun. I'm curious how a pumpkin would hold up against it.

low94noma
03-16-2008, 8:35 PM
Anyone on here pick up the AK in Manteca????Its was there one minute, gone the next.....

rue
03-16-2008, 8:38 PM
I held the one in Elk Grove, it wasn't too great I was thinking but it's an AK right?
They had ear protection earmuffs that were really decent for 9.99. Regular price was 24.99 I picked up 4

jamesob
03-16-2008, 8:49 PM
its hard for a gangsta to look cool having to pump after every shot during his drive by. its just not movie material.

WokMaster1
03-16-2008, 10:15 PM
trunk gun? I can see that in my SUV, why not? May not be sexy looking but I doubt if the receiving end would "*****" about what rifle the 7.62 X 39 round that just hit it came from.

I'll just add this to my list of affordable but good trunk guns.
SKS, Mosin Nagant, shotgun & this.

JeffM
03-16-2008, 11:01 PM
In doing some reading it looks like it may be possible to drill a gas port in the barrel, change the gas tube, and change out the bolt carrier. Would be cheaper, but more work. And you wouldn't be wasting a good barrel from a kit that's no longer importable.

I've been trying to problem solve in my head the reverse conversion for a Saiga shotgun. It would be awesome to have a semi-auto to pump selectable with a gas shutoff.

I'll maybe check out the Visalia Big5 and see if they have one to play with.

savageevo
03-16-2008, 11:07 PM
I went to big5 today and held it. It wasnt that bad. for 250. this would not be bad for a trunk gun. Now, has anybody bought one and put folding stock on it to see if it is total length of 30 inches or since this is pump does the 30 inch law apply. It seems it would be the same as a pump action shotgun. this would be cool if we could have this legally with a folding stock. anybody chime in.

JHC
03-17-2008, 5:00 AM
I went to big5 today and held it. It wasnt that bad. for 250. this would not be bad for a trunk gun. Now, has anybody bought one and put folding stock on it to see if it is total length of 30 inches or since this is pump does the 30 inch law apply. It seems it would be the same as a pump action shotgun. this would be cool if we could have this legally with a folding stock. anybody chime in.

26 Inches for pump, 30 for semi. I'm not sure on the specs for the PAR but on an MD63 (which is an underfolder) I had to put a '74' stlye brake on it when I made it bolt-action to bring it up to 26 inches

wikidklown
03-19-2008, 11:14 PM
okay. ill buy one if you guys will. $249 to make a statement.

Kev, I bought one today, not too bad, looks new and our big5 here will also carry a PAR-3, the .223 version:D
Actually they will take orders even if not in stock.

SunriseF150
03-20-2008, 9:41 AM
So whats the benefit of buying one of these and converting it to semi using a romy parts kit vs. buying a nds-3 and romy parts kit and building it? Is it strictly for the fact that it's all romy parts by converting it?

I'm going to check out my big 5 and see if they got any.

FEDUPWBS
03-20-2008, 9:42 AM
So whats the benefit of buying one of these and converting it to semi using a romy parts kit vs. buying a nds-3 and romy parts kit and building it? Is it strictly for the fact that it's all romy parts by converting it?

I'm going to check out my big 5 and see if they got any.

YES, but 922r applies.

mxbundy
03-20-2008, 10:01 AM
I looked at one of these also, and I wasnt impressed!
It seems very cheaply made, almost looks like a toy gun.
Are all ak variants like this?
I am a noob at this but my SKS has WAY better build quality than those things.

Hopi
03-20-2008, 11:01 AM
I looked at one of these also, and I wasnt impressed!
It seems very cheaply made, almost looks like a toy gun.
Are all ak variants like this?
I am a noob at this but my SKS has WAY better build quality than those things.

All AK variants are not as cheaply made as the PAR rifles.

Besides the novelty, some folks here are going to convert these to semi-auto so that they can have a gun "built with all Romy-made parts" that is actually built with USA-made 922r parts........

It seems like an expensive and time-consuming endeavor for the sake of having a Romanian receiver. To each their own.

jacques
03-20-2008, 9:22 PM
I looked at one of these also, and I wasnt impressed!
It seems very cheaply made, almost looks like a toy gun.
Are all ak variants like this?
I am a noob at this but my SKS has WAY better build quality than those things.

Not all AK's are cheap at all. I met this guy who had a pre-ban Chinese AK. I held it and it was truley a really sturdy gun. Definitely military quality. I have seen others though that seem very flimsy, but they were home made types.

townbound
03-20-2008, 9:48 PM
Not all AK's are cheap at all. I met this guy who had a pre-ban Chinese AK. I held it and it was truley a really sturdy gun. Definitely military quality. I have seen others though that seem very flimsy, but they were home made types.

I'm pretty sure the poster was only talking about those Pump Action PAR's at Big 5, not all AK's.

wilit
03-20-2008, 9:51 PM
For anyone looking for one, the Big 5 in Dublin has one. I just went there today. Be forewarned though, I went to pick up a brick of .22lr and the guy insisted I buy .22 Magnums because they're bigger.

FEDUPWBS
03-20-2008, 10:09 PM
It seems like an expensive and time-consuming endeavor for the sake of having a Romanian receiver. To each their own.


If you must know I ran out of **** to build. So might as well have a 100% romanian bolt action build;).

Clydedog
03-22-2008, 7:40 AM
...There are two of them at the local Big 5 in Clovis. I went in, took a look and see that the ones they have are in excellent shape, going for $249.00 + all the B.S. fees associated. I was a kinda suprised seeing something like that on a Kalifornia gun dealers shelf after all these years. I know it's pump action, but they are kinda cool. If one were to convert one to fire semi-auto, what about the price to do so and the legality of doing so? Also, are there any links out there that show the conversion being done?....

Patriot
03-22-2008, 8:04 AM
...There are two of them at the local Big 5 in Clovis. I went in, took a look and see that the ones they have are in excellent shape, going for $249.00 + all the B.S. fees associated. I was a kinda suprised seeing something like that on a Kalifornia gun dealers shelf after all these years. I know it's pump action, but they are kinda cool. If one were to convert one to fire semi-auto, what about the price to do so and the legality of doing so? Also, are there any links out there that show the conversion being done?....

If you could do that, it would be illegal in stock form for one (or possibly two) reasons:

(1) Semiautomatic centerfire caliber AK with a detachable magazine and pistol grip = illegal assault weapon.

(2) Making it semi-auto would probably make it a non-sporting configuration unimportable under current law and therefore illegal without adding a certain number of US-made parts. Not cost-effective.

ptoguy2002
03-22-2008, 9:51 AM
According to the guy at my local big 5, these all shipped from Century with the incorrect manuals. They can't display or show, or sell these until they receive the proper manual, and if somebody did buy one, they can't release it.
:rolleyes:

Too bad (for big 5), I was half way curious about these, and may have ended up getting one. We'll see in a few weeks when they get manuals.

Patriot
03-22-2008, 11:14 AM
According to the guy at my local big 5, these all shipped from Century with the incorrect manuals. They can't display or show, or sell these until they receive the proper manual, and if somebody did buy one, they can't release it.
:rolleyes:

Too bad (for big 5), I was half way curious about these, and may have ended up getting one. We'll see in a few weeks when they get manuals.

I saw the "incorrect manual" notice posted behind the counter at a local Big 5. Dunno about a moratorium on sales, but maybe for liability reasons....

Baron
03-24-2008, 10:46 AM
LOL... Someone in dublin already beat me to it, But I'll just confirm that Big 5 in Dublin does have one still. I went by on Saturday just to check. It actually felt OK, pretty solid feeling.

Steyr_223
03-24-2008, 5:06 PM
Big 5 Fremont has one. Seems like they sold a few. The gun counter guy say they would get a new one a day after one sells.

Felt good in the hands..It appears new and excellent shape. GCG says you could swap out the front part and replace it was an AK gase pison systen easily..

Temping.

Crazed_SS
03-24-2008, 7:52 PM
I went to buy one Sunday at Big5 in San Diego and they said they only had one and it was sold :(

KrizB
03-29-2008, 9:08 PM
Groped the Par-1 at Big 5 earlier this morning.
Has been awhile since I've held an AK, but that thing was pretty light.
The finish was good and it was sturdy, didn't feel cheap at all.
Will buy one soon.

Btw, anyone know where to get 10 round mags? Looking around, seems like everyone is out.