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RMP91
03-24-2014, 9:48 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/18/opinion/the-gun-lobbys-latest-bizarre-crusade.html

The comments (and all the upvotes they got) worry me greatly. It's very scary how influential these guys still are...

dca965
03-24-2014, 9:56 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/18/opinion/the-gun-lobbys-latest-bizarre-crusade.html

The comments (and all the upvotes they got) worry me greatly. It's very scary how influential these guys still are...

Kommies! Problem is, most folks BELIEVE what they read in the Times.......

IVC
03-24-2014, 10:03 AM
From the article:

The sad part is, the campaign is causing some nervous Democrats whose votes may be needed for Senate confirmation to consider breaking with the president to bolster their own chances for re-election in states where the gun lobby is powerful.

I completely agree that it's sad. They should go with the president. I suggest both NYT and our side push them to go with the president.

lasbrg
03-24-2014, 10:30 AM
The National Rifle Association has mounted an outrageous campaign to torpedo President Obamaís nomination of an outstanding young doctor to be the next surgeon general of the United States because of his attitudes on gun control. The sad part is, the campaign is causing some nervous Democrats whose votes may be needed for Senate confirmation to consider breaking with the president to bolster their own chances for re-election in states where the gun lobby is powerful.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/316/768/7b9.png

Mrninninnin
03-24-2014, 5:05 PM
Ya??? Well lets use their mis-led, mis-informed, mis-reality based rainbows and unicorn view of the real world articles and educate them! I wonder if the writer of this article ever got into a fight in the whole history of his school years, much less, having two guys bust down his door suddenly with bad intentions. Let him listen to this: 911 call of an elderly woman getting murdered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu4lVFijM6g

Mrninninnin
03-24-2014, 5:14 PM
Or this one: New Story

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/trial-for-canadian-webcam-murder-suspect-begins

RMP91
03-24-2014, 5:14 PM
Ya??? Well lets use their mis-led, mis-informed, mis-reality based rainbows and unicorn view of the real world articles and educate them! I wonder if the writer of this article ever got into a fight in the whole history of his school years, much less, having two guys bust down his door suddenly with bad intentions. Let him listen to this: 911 call of an elderly woman getting murdered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu4lVFijM6g

Pretty sure that was a hoax, as scary and plausible as it is.

mshill
03-24-2014, 9:38 PM
It couldn't possibly be that he was a proponent of O-care that makes the Demos want to distance themselves from the guy. I think that the NRA simply becomes an easy scapegoat in this case.

ja308
03-25-2014, 11:14 AM
Anyone still think Joe McCarthy was wrong on communist influence in the USA ?
Bring back HUAC !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Un-American_Activities_Committee

hks95134
03-25-2014, 11:22 AM
I could hardly care less about whom BHO nominates for Surgeon General.

I care about whom gets nominated for the SCOTUS.

Some of the older activists such as Ginsburg or Breyer may be retiring soon, and BHO might try to appoint new activists in their place.

The GOP senators will need to block any SCOTUS nominations by BHO with their filibuster. It will get ugly.

As far as Surgeon General who the F cares?

IVC
03-25-2014, 11:27 AM
As far as Surgeon General who the F cares?

Two words: underground regulation.

lasbrg
03-25-2014, 11:52 AM
Two words: underground regulation.

Yes, or "backdoor regulation". (That's also two words.)

2A Advocate
03-29-2014, 8:25 PM
Anyone still think Joe McCarthy was wrong on communist influence in the USA ?

While I disagree with a number of assertions you have made re: political parties and strategy, you are absolutely spot on here. McCarthy was right and a few decades later Bezmenov confirmed the strategy that the true cold war was one of long term ideological manipulation rather than victory through brute force.

That said, they own American academia outside of STEM and have for a number of decades. I doubt a conservative led committee to 'out' communists would gain any traction given the undeniable slant the media demonstrates on a daily basis. No doubt the faithful readers of the article posted mentally filed this as toothless, backwoods rednecks (or the evil gun manufacturing lobby) unduly denying Mr. Murphy his rightful place as Surgeon General. Useful idiots unaware of the decades long game being played? Absolutely. But that is the reality of a sizable portion of the country. At least his nomination was shelved, so it can be considered a small victory.

blazeaglory
03-29-2014, 10:31 PM
Yeah those comments are freaking sad on that web-page...They all sound like a bunch of delusional hippies who try and act smart together.

CalBear
03-30-2014, 6:39 AM
Rights they don't agree with are always the result of lobbyists and capitalism. Their preferred rights are grassroots based and moral and just.

Jimi Jah
03-30-2014, 9:50 AM
This guy isn't even a doctor yet, he's an intern, sort of like what Obama was before he was elected.

So this guy is now the best we can do?

Sturgen General is more like it.

The War Wagon
03-30-2014, 11:13 AM
Yeah, might as well frighten their little warren of readers. What's 6 scared New Yawkas, in the big picture of things? :rolleyes:

sarabellum
03-30-2014, 11:46 AM
Sociologist Michael Parenting in his book, "Inventing Reality," analyzes the amount of ideological control that the industrial press exercises over people. One insight from Parenti's book is that the media sell a product for the purpose of perpetuating the interests of the owners of industry.

It's should be no surprise that the editorial piece from the New York times provides this unsubstatiated statement, "The N.R.A. also objected to the groupís sensible recommendations that Congress lift restrictions in federal law that effectively block funding of research on preventing death and injury from firearms and federal data collection on gun violence. Such restrictions are intended to prevent the public from understanding the full damage to public safety and health done by guns." Really? There is a law on the books that explicitly restricts any NIH funds from being used to understand the health effects of gun violence with the purpose of disinforming the public? What statute provides for that? NIH funds (https://www.apa.org/science/about/psa/2013/02/gun-violence.aspx) may not be used to advocate politically for gun control.

The 2A distortions are only the tip of the ice berg when it comes to ideological distortion by the so called "free" press.

rivraton
03-30-2014, 11:56 AM
This guy isn't even a doctor yet, he's an intern, sort of like what Obama was before he was elected.

So this guy is now the best we can do?

Sturgen General is more like it.
He is a doctor, an Internist specializes in internal medicine. That doesn't change the fact that he is radically anti-gun and wholly unqualified to be Surgeon General.