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gibbygoo
03-09-2008, 7:34 PM
All I know is it is Russian and looks like there is a stamp that says 1944. Here is a pic, but I can post more if it helps.
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7426/img1019bg7.th.jpg (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1019bg7.jpg)

My dad brought it home from Russia in the 50's I think.

plinkmeister
03-09-2008, 7:37 PM
Bubbarized Mosin Nagant M38(carbine lenght) or 91/30(full size). Kind of difficult to tell from this angle.

gibbygoo
03-09-2008, 7:38 PM
appears to be a Mosin Nagent 1944

gibbygoo
03-09-2008, 7:42 PM
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4937/img1020dt1.th.jpg (http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1020dt1.jpg)

plinkmeister
03-09-2008, 7:48 PM
Definately MN M38. M44`s come with a sidefolding bayonet.

Ricehater
03-09-2008, 7:51 PM
I clicked on that picture and it tried to crash my computer !!!!! :mad:

gibbygoo
03-09-2008, 7:53 PM
I clicked on that picture and it tried to crash my computer !!!!! :mad:

dial up? the photos are over high res. It says in the tumbnail.

Ricehater
03-09-2008, 8:03 PM
no not dial up... i think a problem with imageshack....
Said something about Myspace and froze

CAT_101
03-09-2008, 8:58 PM
IS trys to upload about 500 websites to your computer like popups on one page. :eek:

jmlivingston
03-09-2008, 9:40 PM
Either a Mosin M38 or M44, in a cut-down stock. Note the cut on the side of the stock for the blade of the bayonet. The M44 came with the bayo, the M38 did not but many of them came in M44 stocks.

John

762cavalier
03-09-2008, 9:48 PM
M38- doesn't look like the front sight/bayo mount has been ground. Looks like a front sight from both my M38's. I don't see the bayo cutout JMlivingston is seeing either, all i see is the finger groove.

caldude
03-09-2008, 10:21 PM
I'd go with the bubbaed M38 also. It appears that the barrel doesn't show a ground off M44 bayonet.

jmlivingston
03-09-2008, 10:42 PM
Isn't that a bayonet groove along the top right of the stock there?

8516

dasmi
03-09-2008, 10:42 PM
It's a ruined Mosin-Nagant M38.

Nikola
03-09-2008, 10:46 PM
Yes, that groove is the bayonet inlet. It's cut away to make room for the M44 bayonet tip when it's folded. After the Soviets started manufacturing the M44, they stopped making the M38 stock (they both fit), so lots of M38s have M44 stocks.

aplinker
03-09-2008, 10:58 PM
It's a Kenmore. It says on it.