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morfeeis
03-12-2014, 9:33 AM
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Grand Rapids police officer William Moe saw Deffert walking down the sidewalk. “It does look like he’s got a handgun on,” Moe told a dispatcher. Moe reacted to him like as if he had just robbed a bank. Moe exited his vehicle with his pistol trained on Deffert, barking orders and putting lives at risk.

“On the ground!! On the ground!! Put your hands on top of your head!”

The March 3rd, 2013, encounter was recorded on dash cam and recently released to the public.

“Do not move,” Officer Moe said. “Why do you have a handgun on you?”

“It’s my constitutional right to defend myself,” said Deffert, showing restraint as he looked down the barrel of the officer’s gun. “May I ask why I’m being stopped?”

“Because you got a handgun walking down the street! That’s why!” shrieked Moe, his own pistol remaining trained on the pedestrian.

http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/michigan-man-gets-proned-gunpoint-exercising-2nd-amendment/

Deffert has filed a federal lawsuit against the city of Grand Rapids, Police Chief Kevin Belk, Officer William Moe, and two other officers.

Should be an easy win given case law.

Zartan
03-12-2014, 9:51 AM
Disgusting.

"My constitutional right to defend myself"
"from what?"

:facepalm:

Zartan
03-12-2014, 9:52 AM
Disgusting.

"My constitutional right to defend myself"
"from what?"

:facepalm:

morfeeis
03-12-2014, 9:57 AM
Disgusting.

"My constitutional right to defend myself"
"from what?"

:facepalm:
i caught that; a great line would have been "the same thing you carry a gun to protect people from".

ryan_j
03-12-2014, 10:38 AM
This is why antis were calling for open carry after the Peruta opinion was released. They figure incidents like this would scare people from carrying if open carry was the only option.

shocknm
03-12-2014, 5:23 PM
Cha-Ching

zWade
03-12-2014, 6:16 PM
I hope he wins big! Too many schizos with a badge. jeez What a good job that "citizen" did... of course, he's very lucky he did did not get executed.

Mitch
03-13-2014, 7:45 AM
I hope he wins big! Too many schizos with a badge. jeez

Even if the plaintiff wins his suit, officer William Moe will not suffer the slightest inconvenience.

9w1911
03-13-2014, 8:19 AM
They figure incidents like this would scare people from carrying if open carry was the only option - I agree,

ElDub1950
03-13-2014, 8:52 AM
"filed a federal lawsuit against .... Moe, and two other officers"

Larry & Curly, we must assume!!!

gun toting monkeyboy
03-13-2014, 8:53 AM
Well, they are going to learn a very expensive lesson here.

glockman19
03-13-2014, 9:03 AM
INFRINGED :)

ryan_j
03-13-2014, 9:08 AM
"Who do you think is gonna do you harm?"

Wow. If we lived in a world where no one did anyone any harm, we wouldn't need the police either...

Artema
03-13-2014, 9:19 AM
"Who do you think is gonna do you harm?"

Obviously only one danger to society in this situation.

pterrell
03-13-2014, 9:34 AM
That guy is smart. Knew the laws and will cash out big

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Jimi Jah
03-13-2014, 9:41 AM
Lucky he wasn't out in Santa Rosa, CA. He would be dead.