View Full Version : I may just be paranoid, but....
Fobjoe
03-04-2008, 10:01 PM
...I'm going through a semi nasty breakup with my girlfriend. Silly me, I told her about a month ago the worst thing she could possibly do to me if she were out to get me....I'm praying that she does not pull this out of the bag...
I am talking of course about a restraining order, in which case I would no longer be able to purchase firearms (or be in possession of them if I'm not mistaken). For the most part everything is being kept civil between us. She's still claiming the "stay friends" bit, but any grown up knows that that only works before you end up in another relationship. I simply told her matter-of-factly that this is no fairytale land and that we can't hold each other back for the rest of our lives.
The woman is being quite unpredictable and she seems VERY upset now that word is out she's seeing someone else (her family particularly is not pleased). Would it be possible for her to get a restraining order simply to be malicious with no evidence of my wrongdoing? Thanks and sorry for the personal rant. This is all happening very quickly.
gosparx
03-04-2008, 10:07 PM
I "JUST" posted this story in another thread, but it's even more relevant here...
A few years ago, just because I wouldn't do something she wanted me to, my ex-wife (16 years divorced) threatened me with all sorts of various legal actions she could take against me (RO etc). Basically it was simple blackmail. On her uncollaborated word I could have lost all my guns either temporarily or permanently (and either way it would have cost me thousands of $$$).
Fortunately she was/is usually very rational and relatively easy to get a long with (much more so now that our son is 18 and she can't hold visitation over my head), but once in a while she use to go wack and all reason went out the window.
On that specific occasion, had I not caved in to her demands and blackmail, then who knows what could have happened. Guilty until proven innocent and the stormtroopers could have been kicking in my door.
So, NO, you're not being paranoid and YES she can screw up your life should she choose to. It pisses me off that I caved into my ex's demands, but keeping her happy kept my guns in my possession and my butt out of court. (and a lot of $$$ in my wallet)
11Z50
03-04-2008, 10:07 PM
Don't walk, RUN! Get away from her and cut all ties forever. As a man, your instincts were provided to you to aid in your survival. Trust them.
RP1911
03-04-2008, 11:05 PM
Make arrangements with a good friend or an FFL to transfer your guns for safe keeping in case she does file an RO.
Coat of Arms
03-04-2008, 11:10 PM
Why don't you hit her with the RO before she can do it to you? jk
FortCourageArmory
03-04-2008, 11:16 PM
It's not paranoid if everyone really is out to get you......
Riodog
03-04-2008, 11:18 PM
Why don't you hit her with the RO before she can do it to you? jk
Because most likely the court would place RO's on the both of them.
Rio
dreyna14
03-04-2008, 11:19 PM
I wouldn't think that someone could just file an RO out of the blue without showing necessity or record of abuse or reason (police report, witnesses, hospital bills, etc.). I'm Italian and have a big mouth, so I'd probably call the bluff. Either way, get the heck out of that relationship. Run, don't walk! If she's with someone else, then it's just that much easier.
Coat of Arms
03-04-2008, 11:19 PM
Because most likely the court would place RO's on the both of them.
Rio
I didn't know thats how it works..
dfletcher
03-04-2008, 11:24 PM
...I'm going through a semi nasty breakup with my girlfriend. Silly me, I told her about a month ago the worst thing she could possibly do to me if she were out to get me....I'm praying that she does not pull this out of the bag...
I am talking of course about a restraining order, in which case I would no longer be able to purchase firearms (or be in possession of them if I'm not mistaken). For the most part everything is being kept civil between us. She's still claiming the "stay friends" bit, but any grown up knows that that only works before you end up in another relationship. I simply told her matter-of-factly that this is no fairytale land and that we can't hold each other back for the rest of our lives.
The woman is being quite unpredictable and she seems VERY upset now that word is out she's seeing someone else (her family particularly is not pleased). Would it be possible for her to get a restraining order simply to be malicious with no evidence of my wrongdoing? Thanks and sorry for the personal rant. This is all happening very quickly.
You know, in the early days of television the first thing a smart producer did was shoot an early episode of the main character being killed - just in case he became a demanding pain in the butt. With that in mind ......
Am I to understand you don't know where she works - and that you don't have adult oriented photos of yourself with Mr & Mrs Prude's favorite daughter?
For shame. :cool:
I had to get an RO against my sister on behalf of my mom and other sis.
It wasn't that easy and I had good reason to worry.
I got the TRO and that was no biggie but we had to face her in court to gain the 1 year RO.
She must have been on her meds that day because she admitted her behavior had been threatening.
There were numerous other court action ongoing concerning her at the time including a child abuse/neglect issue but our Lawyer still advised us the court might not grant the RO.
Unless the girlfriend has made criminal complaints against the OP here I think an RO is unlikely...... not impossible mind you but unlikely.
They can call the cops and make stuff up and the court could theoretically side with them but if you guys aren't at war over something you did why worry?
Just cut it off and move on.
failing that just don't have ANY private contact with her.
Reliable witnesses on your side my spell freedom or slavery out for you.
bluestaterebel
03-05-2008, 07:53 AM
why the hell would you tell your girlfirend what the worst thing she could do to you if she was out to get you?
Forever-A-Soldier
03-05-2008, 08:04 AM
Ok, GF - not wife, so you shouldn't have any legal ties (home, car, etc.) if you do, well then your a dumba**. If you two are mutually breaking up, take the previous poster's suggestion. RUN. Dont' call her, don't text her... don't see how she's doing. Break it off. PERIOD. Other fish in the sea. Don't contact her family. Have your own personal Restraining Order where you do everything a real one would except have to turn in your guns.
Now if she's still pursuing you, do basically the same. Be nice but firm and tell her it's over. Better yet, got some guy you work with to go bag her, improve her ego for the moment, and she'll find she's still "valuable" and move on. Had a female friend tell me one time that the best time to get a woman into bed is just after she's broken up with her boyfriend.
Worse case scenario, you get a TRO from this chick, get your guns out of state with a relative. Sell them to a trusted Parent or sibling for $1.00. It's their property now. When all is said and done, you'll get them back.
Next, don't get involved with psycho women. Good luck.
F.A.S. Out
USN CHIEF
03-05-2008, 08:08 AM
Pack all your stuff and move out, change your phone number, your name and never, never talk to her again..
MaceWindu
03-05-2008, 08:16 AM
Why the hell would you tell your girlfirend what the worst thing she could do to you if she was out to get you?
That was probably not the smartest thing to tell her...:rolleyes:
Fjold
03-05-2008, 08:18 AM
Do not have any contact with her, calls, visits, etc. without a witness. If you call her everyday (even at her request) she can claim stalking.
Fobjoe
03-05-2008, 12:50 PM
Thanks for the help everyone. Fortunately for me, she IS seeing a male friend of hers. good riddance. No legal ties to worry about, we live in different counties hours away from each other and soon enough we will be on opposite ends of the state so I don't have to worry about running into her at the grocery store or anything. I'm even more glad that my guns are safe. Yea...that was dumb of me to tell her, but in all fairness I trusted her at the time and the whole situation just reared its ugly head in the past month.
few more quick questions: In order for her to get a restraining order, a court hearing would be necessary? Even then, she can't just surprise me with somebody kicking down the doors to take my guns, correct? Would I have a day to PPT all my guns to a trusted family member in the worst case scenario?
Sutcliffe
03-05-2008, 01:58 PM
In divorces it seems that it has become a tool to gain leverage and money from the higher wage earner. It is a policy that has been misused and will continue to be misused by the court system.
InvictusManeo
03-05-2008, 02:11 PM
Sounds like you're probably in the clear. The one danger I've seen referenced on other forums was with false claims of domestic violence. In these cases, the police would confiscate firearms "until an investigation can be conducted", and even once all accusations were proven baseless, the weapons were not returned (sometimes even destroyed).
Hope this all works out for you and she stays sane. Good luck.
Blackwater OPS
03-05-2008, 02:19 PM
Try hitting her. Oh, wait, no better not.
redcliff
03-05-2008, 04:15 PM
"In order for her to get a restraining order, a court hearing would be necessary? Even then, she can't just surprise me with somebody kicking down the doors to take my guns, correct? Would I have a day to PPT all my guns to a trusted family member in the worst case scenario?"
Most likely you would never even know she applied for a temporary restraining order... you wouldnt even have the opportunity to contest it in court until it expired and they sought a permanent restraining order.
I'd love one of the Calgun Lawyers to correct me if Im wrong, but the TRO is often abused in divorce cases.
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