Bump firing?

[Shoot-it]

I want to know is it legal in CA to bump fire. What's the legiality of it .

[Shane916]

Yes it's legal.

Don't use a rubber band or anything else to assist the bump firing. Last but not least don't install any part that promotes bump firing such as the Hellfire.

[Blackwater OPS]

I want to know is it legal in CA to bump fire. What's the legiality of it .

Totally legal. Don't post pictures of you doing it on myspace though, since the government may assume you have machine guns and raid your house.

[Shotgun Man]

Totally legal. Don't post pictures of you doing it on myspace though, since the government may assume you have machine guns and raid your house.

I figured BWO might have something to say about this.

[mousegun]

Bump firing is not unlawful. That is, there is no specific law that describes it as an unlawful act. Nor is there a law (to my knowledge) proscribing any firearm or class of firearm that would otherwise be lawfully possessed except for the capability of being manipulated in a "bump fire" mode.

Is bump firing wise? In the middle of the desert by yourself where no one can report on what you did, possibly. At the local range with LEOs in civies standing around, not likely.

Many legal acts exist that haven't yet come to the attention of enough blissninnies to ban them. Bump firing is one of those acts.

Bump firing is why God gave us the Mojave Desert.

..only my opinion.

[Pulsar]

I've taught a leo how to bump fire after he stopped by thinking I was shooting a full auto. The last thing he said to me before he left was "I can't wait to show the guys at the range this one!"

[BillCA]

In as much as it is a shooting technique that does not require anything other than a gun, the human body and some knoweldge, making it illegal is tantamount to suppressing free speech.

Is it cool? Yup. Is it fun? Absolutely. Could it be useful to know how to do it? Possibly. Is it also inaccurate and wastful of ammo? Positively. It's also something to do away from other people, especially those who wet their panties at the idea of such things.

[JHC]

You usually cant bump at a real range, they will kick you out. When I've bumpfired in the past at the informal plinking range I would always wait til I was ready to leave, the last thing I needed was the forest rangers calling up the sheriff reporting machine gun fire and me being unnecessarily detained.

Bumpfiring has lost it's luster with the ever increasing price of ammo

[brokestudent12]

Bumpfiring has lost it's luster with the ever increasing price of ammo

Yep. Nowadays I'm only bumpin .22, too broke to be bumpin any other cals

[JHC]

Oh yeah, bumping can cause worn out mags to spontaneously disassemble.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/crash76/th_whups.jpg (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/crash76/?action=view&current=whups.flv)

[76231b]

Yep. Nowadays I'm only bumpin .22, too broke to be bumpin any other cals

not enough recoil for it to work

[brokestudent12]

not enough recoil for it to work

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=22+bumpfire

[Solidmch]

fun, legal. but expensive.

[ghettoshecky]

Bump firing is why God gave us the Mojave Desert.

..only my opinion.

HAHAHAHA dude exactly what was going through my mine, but definitely I go bumpfiring on BLM land all the time out in the Mojave. Never do it at ranges because the ROs usually go ballistic about rapid fire, but when you're the range officer (hence in the desert) it's game.

[compulsivegunbuyer]

Take $10 out of your wallet, walk to the toilet, and flush. You've just bumpfired a 30 round mag.

[Gunaria]

Flushing money down the toilet is not as fun though.:D

[bobfried]

Take $10 out of your wallet, walk to the toilet, and flush. You've just bumpfired a 30 round mag.

Yah know, in the big picture, I just lost $150,000 worth of property value this year, a little bump firing isn't going to hurt. Heck, owning firearms at all is a waste of money. My custom 1911's are a HUGE waste of money. So is the $5,000+ I've spent on just ONE rifle. The only firearm I can justify at all is my shotgun, everything else is flushing money down a toilet.

So yah, flushing money down the toilet for sure.

[ETD1010]

I just sucessfully bump fired a whole mag the other day for the first time. Usually, I only burp 5-6 shots.... I enjoyed flushing that money :D

[Shoot-it]

I just sucessfully bump fired a whole mag the other day for the first time. Usually, I only burp 5-6 shots.... I enjoyed flushing that money :D

LOL I bet you did . It's money well spent if you enjoyed it just Like a nice steak at your local steak house quess what your flushing it down the toilet to :D

[MrLogan]

Oh yeah, bumping can cause worn out mags to spontaneously disassemble.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/crash76/th_whups.jpg (http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/crash76/?action=view&current=whups.flv)

hahahaha

[Army]

Well over 25 years of AR ownership and shooting many tens of thousands of rounds from them, and 20 years of shooting M16's with 2 combat tours firing many thousands of rounds on rock & roll...........

...I have NEVER had a magazine disassemble itself.

AK reliability? feh

[Pred@tor]

I bump fire my SKS all the time out in the sticks.

[JHC]

Well over 25 years of AR ownership and shooting many tens of thousands of rounds from them, and 20 years of shooting M16's with 2 combat tours firing many thousands of rounds on rock & roll...........

...I have NEVER had a magazine disassemble itself.

AK reliability? feh

That mag's floor plate lock button was just about rusted away from bad storage on my part, all it took was a little vibration to finish it off.

Look, this guy has the same problem :43:http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f242/crash76/image00817yd.jpg

[M. Sage]

Well over 25 years of AR ownership and shooting many tens of thousands of rounds from them, and 20 years of shooting M16's with 2 combat tours firing many thousands of rounds on rock & roll...........

...I have NEVER had a magazine disassemble itself.

AK reliability? feh

Heh, that actually happened to my wife with a 1911 once. :eek: IIRC, there were tack welds holding the mag together, and they finally gave up.

[Shoot-it]

Where can I find some literature on bump firing if it's legal to do here or not. Is there any one in LEO on here that can tell me what they know?

[Blackwater OPS]

Where can I find some literature on bump firing if it's legal to do here or not. Is there any one in LEO on here that can tell me what they know?

Where can I find some literature on cooking pasta for dinner if it's legal to do here or not. Is there any one in Chef on here that can tell me what they know?

[RANGER295]

Now would this be illegal? It is not actually attached to the weapon. I do not see how it could be considered an actuator or modification. It is something to help you hold the weapon. http://youtube.com/watch?v=_3y2Cp0pKwA&feature=related

[bwiese]

Where can I find some literature on bump firing if it's legal to do here or not. Is there any one in LEO on here that can tell me what they know?

Bump firing is legal. There's nothing codified about how rapidly you can wiggle your trigger finger.

If you add something like a 'trigger activator' device (Hellfire or Hellstorm or whatever they're called to get idiots to buy 'em), that's illegal. Bottom line, nothing should be added to your trigger system to allow it to 'repeat' without motion of your finger.

Why anyone wants to bumpfire is beyond me. Most folks can't hit sh*t doing it, and it seems the preserve of noobs & idjits.

If you wanna be dangerous, don't bump fire - get a good trigger and learn how to shoot your gun. Burn off ammo being good, being quick, being accurate.

[Stormfeather]

not enough recoil for it to work

LOL, guess we can say FAIL on that one! There is enough recoil to bump a .22

[Shoot-it]

Where can I find some literature on cooking pasta for dinner if it's legal to do here or not. Is there any one in Chef on here that can tell me what they know?
aren't you funny not !

[Shoot-it]

Bump firing is legal. There's nothing codified about how rapidly you can wiggle your trigger finger.

If you add something like a 'trigger activator' device (Hellfire or Hellstorm or whatever they're called to get idiots to buy 'em), that's illegal. Bottom line, nothing should be added to your trigger system to allow it to 'repeat' without motion of your finger.

Why anyone wants to bumpfire is beyond me. Most folks can't hit sh*t doing it, and it seems the preserve of noobs & idjits.

If you wanna be dangerous, don't bump fire - get a good trigger and learn how to shoot your gun. Burn off ammo being good, being quick, being accurate.

People bump fire cause it's fun not to hit something . I was just asking that's all don't worry i know the range master real well he will let me do it if i wanted.

[bohoki]

Now would this be illegal? It is not actually attached to the weapon. I do not see how it could be considered an actuator or modification. It is something to help you hold the weapon. http://youtube.com/watch?v=_3y2Cp0pKwA&feature=related


man they call it a bumpstick i call it a bump plank they really need to refine that a bit


i got to see if i could do that by just holding a mini mag light or dowel in the trigger guard with a rigid left arm

[bobfried]

........Why anyone wants to bumpfire is beyond me. Most folks can't hit sh*t doing it, and it seems the preserve of noobs & idjits.

If you wanna be dangerous, don't bump fire - get a good trigger and learn how to shoot your gun. Burn off ammo being good, being quick, being accurate.

Have you bump-fire much Bill?

I've had a decade of trigger time behind the M16/M4/AR platform and a few hundred thousand rounds down the pipe. I have friends that have been shooting in very dusty places for the past few decades and we all like to dump off a few magazines now and again. Unfortunately I no longer can legally own a happy switch so when I want to dump off a magazine all I have is bump firing. And ironically, my uber-expensive AR with the nice trigger is much easier and alot more fun to bump-fire than the average Stag.

It's fun! And that's all the excuse I need.

[RANGER295]

man they call it a bumpstick i call it a bump plank they really need to refine that a bit


i got to see if i could do that by just holding a mini mag light or dowel in the trigger guard with a rigid left arm

I just found a way to do this without the “bumpstick”. Grip the pistol in your right hand (if you are right handed) the way you would normally do so, but do not put your trigger finger in the trigger guard. Use you left had almost like you would for a two handed grip, but have it slightly forward of where it usually would be (at least for me) and put you thumb into the trigger guard. Keep the left hand kind of loose with slight backward pressure but not quite enough to fire the weapon. Then with your right hand, push the weapon into your thumb and allow it to bounce back and forth.

[tronix]

Where can I find some literature on bump firing if it's legal to do here or not. Is there any one in LEO on here that can tell me what they know?

You will probably not find literature about the legality of bump firing. However, you will find literature on what makes a weapon legal or illegal. Let me simplify your concerns. A weapon can be illegal (i.e. 30 round detachable magazine and pistol grip with fully automatic rate of fire). A "style" of shooting a legal weapon is not illegal. The legal or illegal issue is the weapon and its accessories, not how it's used (except in the commission of any crime of course). Saying that bump firing is illegal is like saying that shooting a weapon one handed is illegal, or that holding a weapon upside down while shooting (not recommended) is illegal. You can get in trouble for the weapon's specs, not how you use it. However, although it is not illegal in California, it is NOT PERMITTED in most (if not all) shooting ranges. Heck, anything more than a double tap and you will be talked to. Get yourself a California legal firearm, research where in the desert you can safely and legally shoot. Work some overtime to make up the money spent on the rapid rate of fire, get everyone in your party safely behind you, hold on tight to your weapon, and bump fire to your heart's content (and your wallet's sorrow).;)

[bohoki]

all i can say is that i have bumpfired a mini30 with 30 round magazine in front of 3 leos 2 sherrifs and a blm ranger

the ranger said if i did that again he would run me in for the illegal magazines (i promptly left)

and the 2 sherrifs because they thought we had a machine gun

and i said wanna see they said sure i was a bit nervous but luckily i was able to dump the mag in about 3 seconds perfectly i offered to let them try the younger one looked eager the older one said "lets go" to him they left and i got applause from my buddies

cause the only thing more lame than bumpfiring is bumpfiring wrong

[Utha Schleigle]

Don't forget you can bump fire from the sholder and with practice get 3 & 4 rnd bursts.

I would not ask LE anything about bumpfire (will cause heat) and only bump fire in desert agmonst friends.

If there is no device or part for conspriacy to manufacture a FA - to my derranged non-legal mind - bump firing is technically legal. But you would want to be the $150,000.oo USD test case?!?!

[eijjie33]

i don't think bump firing with a 10 rd mag is as much fun as the 30rd mag,plus it's just a waste of ammo:D

[RANGER295]

i don't think bump firing with a 10 rd mag is as much fun as the 30rd mag,plus it's just a waste of ammo:D

True but a lot of us have regular capacity mags. While it is very expensive, especially with today’s ammo prices, it is fun to dump a mag every now and then. I am trying to get it so I can do it with a .22… so far no luck.

[bohoki]

True but a lot of us have regular capacity mags. While it is very expensive, especially with today’s ammo prices, it is fun to dump a mag every now and then. I am trying to get it so I can do it with a .22… so far no luck.


yea 10 rounds does kind of suck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkDhBhEDWzc

[RedDawn]

True but a lot of us have regular capacity mags. While it is very expensive, especially with today’s ammo prices, it is fun to dump a mag every now and then. I am trying to get it so I can do it with a .22… so far no luck.

I would say "regular" capacity mags should refer to 20 and 30 rd mags as most of the country can still legal buy and sell these.

I would label California's magazines as "low" capacity compared to the rest of the country's.;)

[bohoki]

I would say "regular" capacity mags should refer to 20 and 30 rd mags as most of the country can still legal buy and sell these.

I would label California's magazines as "low" capacity compared to the rest of the country's.;)


but a 10/22 and ruger mk1/2/3 standard capacity is 10 or less

[RedDawn]

but a 10/22 and ruger mk1/2/3 standard capacity is 10 or less

Are you kidding me?
Bill Ruger sold out gun owners, in a letter to the House of Senate in 1989, by stating in that letter, "No honest man needs more than 10 rounds in any gun..."

[DrunkSkunk]

low cap and high cap, standard definition even in the damn free states. stop trying to be special, you're just special ed

[RedDawn]

low cap and high cap, standard definition even in the damn free states. stop trying to be special, you're just special ed

very clever...:rolleyes:

[DrunkSkunk]

and so is calling high caps standard cap :rolleyes:

[RedDawn]

and so is calling high caps standard cap :rolleyes:

High capacity was coined as a phrase referring to magazines which held more than the factory supplied magazines. In the case of the AR15, it was originally issued with 20rd magazines. The AK47 was initially issued with 30 rd magazines.

[Grimjack]

As an LEO-my two cents.

Most officers have never heard of bump firing, and do not know how to function test a gun for full auto. If they hear or see it going on they might listen to the explanation, but most likely won't let you demonstrate. They may confiscate the gun and write a report or confiscate and arrest.

[cseabass]

Are you kidding me?
Bill Ruger sold out gun owners, in a letter to the House of Senate in 1989, by stating in that letter, "No honest man needs more than 10 rounds in any gun..."

Im no huge Bill Ruger fan but your quote is inacurate.

Bill said 15 rounds not 10.

Damnit this is Bigmac... The Bass didn't log out.

[bohoki]

High capacity was coined as a phrase referring to magazines which held more than the factory supplied magazines. In the case of the AR15, it was originally issued with 20rd magazines. The AK47 was initially issued with 30 rd magazines.

my mak-90 was origionally issued three 5 rounders

[RANGER295]

I would say "regular" capacity mags should refer to 20 and 30 rd mags as most of the country can still legal buy and sell these.

I would label California's magazines as "low" capacity compared to the rest of the country's.;)

If you look at what I said, I was referring to non-low cap mags. I could have said standard capacity as well. The person that I was replying to said that it wasn’t fun to bump-fire with 10 rounders. I said “True, but a lot of us have regular capacity mags” meaning that there are a lot of us that had the foresight to stock up on the good stuff and do not suffer from this limitation. I try not to call them Hi-Cap just like I try not to call anything an AW. If I have to I usually add “so called” before it as in saying “so called assault weapon”…

[RedDawn]

If you look at what I said, I was referring to non-low cap mags. I could have said standard capacity as well. The person that I was replying to said that it wasn’t fun to bump-fire with 10 rounders. I said “True, but a lot of us have regular capacity mags” meaning that there are a lot of us that had the foresight to stock up on the good stuff and do not suffer from this limitation. I try not to call them Hi-Cap just like I try not to call anything an AW. If I have to I usually add “so called” before it as in saying “so called assault weapon”…

I figured that's what you meant, wasn't sure though.:D
But I take the opportunity when I can to remind people we shouldn't conform and use Media defined terms and phrases invented to sensationalize mundane objects.

[bohoki]

I figured that's what you meant, wasn't sure though.:D
But I take the opportunity when I can to remind people we shouldn't conform and use Media defined terms and phrases invented to sensationalize mundane objects.

the problem is that we lived through a 10 year period of calling your "standard" mags "pre-ban" and looking for another convenient universally understandable simple term the general gun populous calls 10+mags large capacity or hi-caps for short

since you have to be an expert to know the standard capacity of each and every firearm with a magazine

standard capacity is virtually meaningless to a layperson

sure we could use 10+ as a term for any time a person would use high-cap
and 10- for any magazine that is typically sold in california
but people often like using words not numbers

you get my drift its not as bad as using clip for a magazine
heck i got soldier of fortune magazines calling just about every pistolgripped rifle "assault style"

now it seems every thing is "tactical"
maybe the next ban is going to be the "tactical weapon ban"

sure it would be nice if we could all join sparticus and call them "fluffy bunny rifles"

but whats the saying

that dog wont hunt

[RedDawn]

the problem is that we lived through a 10 year period of calling your "standard" mags "pre-ban" and looking for another convenient universally understandable simple term the general gun populous calls 10+mags large capacity or hi-caps for short

since you have to be an expert to know the standard capacity of each and every firearm with a magazine

standard capacity is virtually meaningless to a layperson

sure we could use 10+ as a term for any time a person would use high-cap
and 10- for any magazine that is typically sold in california
but people often like using words not numbers

you get my drift its not as bad as using clip for a magazine
heck i got soldier of fortune magazines calling just about every pistolgripped rifle "assault style"

now it seems every thing is "tactical"
maybe the next ban is going to be the "tactical weapon ban"

sure it would be nice if we could all join sparticus and call them "fluffy bunny rifles"

but whats the saying

that dog wont hunt

You have alot of great points there.
I was a little put off, when I posted, because I had just seen a Steyr M40-A1 pistol on GunBroker advertising "high capacity" magazines. The magazines held 11rds. One round more than 10. O well, I suppose the term is going to stick around for awhile.