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smle-man
02-29-2008, 12:33 PM
Seems like I'm seeing more and more firearms on the for sale section of CalGuns with price drops. Are private party gun prices starting to follow the real estate trends here in the Golden state?

apbrian112
02-29-2008, 12:34 PM
from what i've seen, this is THE place to get good deals on firearms especially since you can often times find local sellers so the transaction fees are dropped significantly.

45DAVID1
02-29-2008, 12:46 PM
No. People know that once a gun/rifle goes up for sale the price will eventually drop. People will purposely not buy the item until the price goes down, because it most likely will go down. People just want the best deal possible. Speaking of that let me lower the price on some ammo I have on here.

Gunaria
02-29-2008, 12:55 PM
What I have noticed lately is the price of FAL's going down a little bit. I guess it's to make up the difference in the price to feed them suckers.

fun2none
02-29-2008, 01:14 PM
Seems like I'm seeing more and more firearms on the for sale section of CalGuns with price drops. Are private party gun prices starting to follow the real estate trends here in the Golden state?

Based on my subjective observation, there are more items for sale than usual and there is a price softening which indicates more sellers than buyers. It could be anything from the housing deflation, energy inflation, income and property taxes just around the corner, fear of recession, etc.

More people are selling to convert their assets into ca$h. For whatever it's worth, watch the video in the link below. It's little boring but very insightful - especially if you have a two-income family.

http://www.uctv.tv/search-details.asp?showID=12620

-hanko
02-29-2008, 01:35 PM
What I have noticed lately is the price of FAL's going down a little bit. I guess it's to make up the difference in the price to feed them suckers.
It's more than just ammo...

With more recession news, discretionary spending for hobbies will decline; whether it's weapons, RC airplanes, or anything else.

If ammo is a concern, reloading fixes that problem, as does going to a rifle with a less expensive feeding habit; you can shoot a bolt gun for all afternoon with the same ammo count a semi gun could eat in half an hour.

People are finally realizing that a franken-fal is worth no more than the price of parts, unless assembled by a smith with a large following and a demonstrated history of making VERY nice fal's.

Building your own fal is not too hard, but it's much more difficult than a assembling an AR, to say the least.

Authentic oem FAL's are not losing money...e.g., verifiable FN's, Rosario's, Poyer imports, sear-cut semi G1's, etc.

NFA guns haven't lost anything that I can see yet, but I don't look at subguns.com too often;)

Just for me, I've got enough fal's that I can trade a few for mousegun parts.

-hanko

kurac
02-29-2008, 02:52 PM
I have sold a few items here on calguns and did not even come close to doing a price drop on any of them. The important thing is you need to price it right, not how much you think its worth but how much similar items are selling for. Yes I could have gotten more if I sold them on consignment but then the house would have taken 20% so I take the value of the item at a gun shop, knock of 10% and list it on calguns, in the end everyone is happy.

Riodog
02-29-2008, 03:00 PM
Say what?
Rio

EastBayRidge
02-29-2008, 03:17 PM
Tax time's approaching...

USN CHIEF
02-29-2008, 03:53 PM
I like it when the prices go down...:43:

aplinker
02-29-2008, 08:24 PM
Or anything we like, for that matter. :43:

I like it when the prices go down...:43:

cactus
02-29-2008, 08:31 PM
Generally I think both parties benefit. The seller sells there gun for way more than a dealer would give them and members get good deals. Win win situation in my book. I one thing I dont understand is how new members are making there first post in the for sale section.

CALI-gula
02-29-2008, 08:50 PM
Based on my subjective observation, there are more items for sale than usual and there is a price softening which indicates more sellers than buyers. It could be anything from the housing deflation, energy inflation, income and property taxes just around the corner, fear of recession, etc.

More people are selling to convert their assets into ca$h. For whatever it's worth, watch the video in the link below. It's little boring but very insightful - especially if you have a two-income family.

Naw... you are all overthinking this. It's not the economy or taxes - may be for some people, but I'm seeing the majority have OLL/OLR motives. More and more people are realizing the OLL/OLR availability situation and siphoning off their "collector" guns to go get things like advanced ARs, top of the line AKs (i.e. Hungarian/AVEX/Arsenal Inc.) a SIG-556, a PTR-91, or any number of the over-priced Vector/Coharie creations.

All it takes is to look at the fact that many of the sellers are also buyers - in the same week. Many have sold some rare animal and turned around to buy an HK USC or DPMS in .308 . ;)

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five.five-six
02-29-2008, 09:00 PM
No. People know that once a gun/rifle goes up for sale the price will eventually drop. People will purposely not buy the item until the price goes down, because it most likely will go down. People just want the best deal possible. Speaking of that let me lower the price on some ammo I have on here.

but then again you run the risk of someong snaping it up cause they want it and loosing out..calguns is a great place for firearm commerce!

mymonkeyman
02-29-2008, 09:03 PM
Tax time's approaching...

Yes, watch as prices go down as people have to pay and then skyrocket when every calgunner is looking for something to buy with a $600 rebate check.

Gunaria
02-29-2008, 09:09 PM
It's more than just ammo...

With more recession news, discretionary spending for hobbies will decline; whether it's weapons, RC airplanes, or anything else.

If ammo is a concern, reloading fixes that problem, as does going to a rifle with a less expensive feeding habit; you can shoot a bolt gun for all afternoon with the same ammo count a semi gun could eat in half an hour.

People are finally realizing that a franken-fal is worth no more than the price of parts, unless assembled by a smith with a large following and a demonstrated history of making VERY nice fal's.

Building your own fal is not too hard, but it's much more difficult than a assembling an AR, to say the least.

Authentic oem FAL's are not losing money...e.g., verifiable FN's, Rosario's, Poyer imports, sear-cut semi G1's, etc.

NFA guns haven't lost anything that I can see yet, but I don't look at subguns.com too often;)

Just for me, I've got enough fal's that I can trade a few for mousegun parts.

-hanko

So whenever you get back to the bay area you got an FAL to sell to me for $650? ;):chris:

Steyr_223
02-29-2008, 10:44 PM
So whenever you get back to the bay area you got an FAL to sell to me for $650? ;):chris:

How about a $700 FAL?

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=88873

C123K_LoadMaster
03-01-2008, 12:21 PM
725K Home Auctioned off for 200K in Salinas

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1952798&goto=newpost

scootergmc
03-01-2008, 01:22 PM
725K Home Auctioned off for 200K in Salinas

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1952798&goto=newpost

I'd have a hard time paying over 100k for anything in Salinas... :p

Satex
03-01-2008, 01:42 PM
Seems like I'm seeing more and more firearms on the for sale section of CalGuns with price drops. Are private party gun prices starting to follow the real estate trends here in the Golden state?

It's called "free market" and the "laws of supply and demand". Don't you love it?

USN CHIEF
03-01-2008, 02:59 PM
but then again you run the risk of someong snaping it up cause they want it and loosing out..calguns is a great place for firearm commerce!

It's like Ebay, but prices go down vice up..

-hanko
03-01-2008, 03:17 PM
So whenever you get back to the bay area you got an FAL to sell to me for $650? ;):chris:
Maybe 750. I have a running guns that need refinish to be beautiful; one with a dsa receiver...that will definitely start around $850 if I put it on the market. There's a 16" carbine, refinished, that would fetch 750. Just finishing a 21" rifle from a beautiful Imbel kit, may be 50-100 more. None are fs right now. Chris, if you're serious, haunt the marketplace on the fal files and be a little patient. If you see something you want, pm the seller, ask questions, and be ready to get a money order and a copy of your ffl's license in the mail...amhik.

Check the link in Steyr_223 post just above yours. It's unbelievable that that gun has sat FS for FOUR DAYS with no bites. The gunsmith has an excellent reputation, the price is RIGHT for a frankenfal. If you're serious about an FAL, that's a nice rifle;) with an even better price. It would have lasted maybe 2 hours, maybe, on the fal files.

-hanko

CALI-gula
03-01-2008, 03:45 PM
It's unbelievable that that gun has sat FS for FOUR DAYS with no bites. The gunsmith has an excellent reputation, the price is RIGHT for a frankenfal. If you're serious about an FAL, that's a nice rifle;) with an even better price. It would have lasted maybe 2 hours, maybe, on the fal files. -hanko

Gunsmith aside, I bet the the receiver being CAI is scaring people off. There is a stigma against those whether warranted or not. I think it's worth the money, but people don't hear who built it - they only hear "CAI". Others may think if they can afford that, they may as well put up more money for an Imbel or DSA, etc., within the same frame of talent building it.

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-hanko
03-01-2008, 04:04 PM
Gunsmith aside, I bet the the receiver being CAI is scaring people off. There is a stigma against those whether warranted or not. I think it's worth the money, but people don't hear who built it - they only hear "CAI". Others may think if they can afford that, they may as well put up more money for an Imbel or DSA, etc., within the same frame of talent building it. .
I agree. Guns built by CAI have a spotty reputation, well deserved based on a bunch of user input.

CAI receivers do take more tweaking during assembly than dsa/imbel/coonan, but at least in my own experience, less than early enterprise stuff. I've built 3 nice shooting rifles from cai receivers starting in the batch they shipped last October. Other than chasing a few threads, no issues in assembly, timing, headspace or anything else. To put it in perspective, the receivers took less time to clean up than cleaning flash and junk out of ar receivers.

I'd definitely expect to ask less money for a cai gun than one with another receiver. The price asked in the link on this thread is a great deal for a cai receiver kit gun, period.

-hanko