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COILSPRING
02-26-2008, 1:56 AM
I would prefer to sell this ammo face to face @ the Redondo Beach Turner's. I may consider meeting elsewhere if the quantity & distance make sense. CASH ONLY!

PMC .223 Remington 55 grain FMJ-BT 1000 round sealed case older production circa 1995 $350 Sold Out...
This ammo has a very good reputation for accuracy with it's boat tail projectile.

.762x51 Cavim (Hecho en Venezuela) 1990 Production (Non-magnetic)
Sealed case of 1000 rounds $425.

.762x51 NATO Norinco 300 round galvanized tin battle-packs with an OD canvas handle. Headstamp NATO Cross, RG 60, L2A2; Steel Case, Copper-Wash, Magnetic Projectile. The sealed battle-packs contain 5 round stripper-clips. (The ammunition is not packed on the stripper-clips, they are in the tins...) Some have said that this ammunition is counterfeit Radway Green, I say bull. Why would the Chinese counterfeit RG back in 1960? I think the Brits just wanted a cost effective source for .762 NATO. I was told that it was part of a British contract run. The case clearly says Norinco, lets just say that its Norinco copper-wash. When I purchased it I was told that it was "slightly" corrosive. I never used hot water to clean my rifle but I did clean it as soon as I arrived home with a black-powder solvent or Ballistol. I'll call it corrosive, use Windex, black powder solvents (like Hoppe's 9 Plus), Ballistol, hot water, or whatever to neutralize the primer salts and you and your rifle will be fine. I found this ammo to be surprisingly accurate. Poke around on the internet and you will find that it has a good reputation for accuracy. $120 per sealed battle-pack of 300 rounds. I also have an open tin so I can sell 100 rounds for $45 if you want to try a smaller amount.

Winchester Super X 12 Gauge High Brass Game Loads (x126)
2 3/4" 3 3/4 Dram 1 1/4 oz #6 Lead $8 each

CCI Long Rifle Shotshells (Snakeshot)
1/15 oz #12 (package of 20) $5 each or 3 packs for $12

Thanks for looking.

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02-27-2008, 9:23 AM
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02-28-2008, 11:33 AM
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maurice05
02-28-2008, 1:28 PM
if available i might be interested in 300 rounds of norinco 762.51 this sunday i will leave a number you can reach me at if im back in los angeles by saturday night

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02-29-2008, 1:48 PM
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03-02-2008, 9:01 AM
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COILSPRING
03-03-2008, 9:16 AM
Somewhere, there is a guy with a 7mm Remington Magnum that needs some ammo...

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03-04-2008, 9:41 AM
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03-04-2008, 11:58 PM
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mjcorrea
03-22-2008, 5:04 AM
The number of boxes do you have. Maybe to buy all. Let me know.

COILSPRING
03-22-2008, 5:01 PM
The number of boxes do you have. Maybe to buy all. Let me know.

I have 22 boxes of AA and 39 boxes of Winchester Target. Thank you for your interest...

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03-23-2008, 8:40 PM
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03-26-2008, 11:08 AM
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rosebridge
04-01-2008, 10:53 PM
If you the 7mm rem mag
Will you take 100 shipping included for all 7 boxes.Ventura County

COILSPRING
04-02-2008, 6:10 PM
If you the 7mm rem mag
Will you take 100 shipping included for all 7 boxes.Ventura County

Hi rosebridge,
I'll send you a pm... There seems to be a lead ammo ban in Ventura County. The Winchester Power Point is a soft-point projectile (lead core).
Thank you for your interest...

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Biff...
04-10-2008, 11:50 AM
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04-11-2008, 1:50 PM
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04-12-2008, 10:48 AM
PM Sent on 308 Cavim.

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MILLITIAof1
04-15-2008, 3:06 PM
where in L.A. are you? its a pretty big area after all:)

Xerxes
04-15-2008, 7:17 PM
.762x51 NATO Norinco 300 round galvanized tin battle-packs with an OD canvas handle. Headstamp NATO Cross, RG 60, L2A2; Steel Case, Copper-Wash, Magnetic Projectile. The sealed battle-packs contain 5 round stripper-clips. (The ammunition is not packed on the stripper-clips, they are in the tins...) Some have said that this ammunition is counterfeit Radway Green, I say bull. Why would the Chinese counterfeit RG back in 1960? I think the Brits just wanted a cost effective source for .762 NATO. I was told that it was part of a British contract run. The case clearly says Norinco, lets just say that its Norinco copper-wash.
Thanks for looking.


I normally would not put this kind of info in some one's for sale thread but you did ask the question in your thread.

Why would the Chinese counterfeit RG back in 1960?

The answer of course is they would not....

........and we would both agree on that but for different reasons.

There was no large private industries in China during the reign of the fascist/communist dictatorship of Chairman Mao.

His cultural revolution bankrupted his nation by killing off all the intellectuals and promising entrepreneurs. The barking of orders from the dictator of "You will all go to the country side and make more food" backfired and resulted in less food being produced similar to what we are now seeing in Rhodesia by the facist/communist dictator Mugabe. The ego of this man and his followers led them to believe they could just bark orders out and there will would become fact irregardless of the reality of the situation.

The army was so poor that the generals and other high ranking officers would send the troops out to the country side to grow their own food, or on many occasions when that was not enough to just simply steal the food from the peasant farmers. Similarly pay was sporadic. Men who become generals are not stupid men, but are ambitious men looking to better themselves, their families, their communities, and their country. If they were not they would have stayed nothing more than a peasant soldier past up again and again for promotion.

In 1978 Deng Xiaoping took over things and realized that if the people were left to see to their own needs that they would do a better job than if Deng micromanaged their economic activities.

One of the first to benefit were the generals. In 1980 many of them came together and took over several ailing and failing manufacturing facilities in Northern China. To raise capital to retool they sold off vast quantities of Chinese military hardware real cheap (I bought a few modified to civilian use AK's and SKS's and thousands and thousands and thousands of rounds of ammunition myself). They were the first Chinese to succeed in this new world of "Free Market" as they were the only smart, well educated, connected, powerful, self thinkers, and highly motivated entrepreneurs that China had left as all the others were killed off during the cultural revolution of Mao. Basically China had no one left to turn to to start this great experiment in capitalism/free market other than their generals who were the only ones positioned to do something like this successfully.

This new corporation, or really a government sponsored/owned corporation under the guise of a free market corporation, was allowed to be run independently and free for the most part to promote their self interest and not micromanaged to promote the self interest of the Chairman or Communist Party. This new company formed in 1980 was quickly known as NORINCO (China North Industries Corporation). Today they are still widely known for defense industry products but they make several other industrial, commercial, and consumer products as well.

Many of the founding generals left the army and spun off several other highly successful companies. Many stayed in the army but continued to run Norinco and enriched themselves doing so. This has been a source of new conflict in China where it has brought on another new phenomenon that we know as corruption.

These generals proved to the rest of the Chinese that it could be done and that the government would be tolerant of entrepreneurs and business men who acted to enrich their own fortune without thinking about the "greater good" in everything they did. The communist leaders tolerate this because they have learned that having a free market is the worse way to run countries economy except for every other attempt/idea that was tried to run an economy (so to paraphrase Winston Churchill).

So yes, NORINCO did not counterfeit this in 1960, but not because they had no reason too, but because this was 20 years before they came into existence.:eek: Also China did no contract work for Britain back then because China was isolated from the rest of the world and very hostile to the western world till the death of the dictator Mao.

Since you asked I decided to answer. Since this is all ready a 5 page thread, then why not a 6 page thread.:D

I would not compare this stuff in anyway to Radway Green as it sounds like the typical Chinese stuff that most of us are familiar with (especially the copper washed steel case instead of brass case). This stuff should work just fine in loose tolerances firearms like the AK type series. You also have this nicely priced at $120/300 (40 cents/round) at a time where surplus ammo has hit 60 cents a round or higher.

As for the NATO stamp on the ammo I would love to hear from the experts as I know of very little NATO certified military goods made by China. I know they made lots of military goods and simply certified it themselves as NATO spec to attract buyers (just like everything else they make is "ISO CERTIFIED" but not by ISO but by themselves). Personally I think NATO should have sued their pants off as this is nothing more than trademark infringement and stealing the good name of NATO. Russia is dealing with this now as China cancels or refuses to renew a multitude of contracts for military gear as their real intention was to just buy a few items of each technology then reverse engineer it and crank out the cookie cutter molds of selling Russian Technology based defense gear for cheaper than the Russians can make it. This has resulted in a much worsening of relations between the two countries.

None the less if this stuff works and goes boom reliably and has reasonable accuracy then I have to say this is a really good price.

Remember you asked the question in your post, so I answered.

GOOD LUCK!:D

COILSPRING
04-17-2008, 10:47 AM
Xerxes,
Thank you for the kind words as well as the history lesson. I was surprised as to how accurate the Norinco .762x51 groups. Try some you will be pleasantly surprised... :D

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05-06-2008, 9:59 AM
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05-08-2008, 6:11 PM
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DrunkSkunk
05-08-2008, 10:48 PM
can't believe the 223 is still avail!

apbrian112
05-09-2008, 8:35 PM
great meeting you today... hope you enjoyed the pizza!

COILSPRING
05-10-2008, 5:17 PM
Brian,
It was a pleasure meeting you as well. I hope you enjoy the PMC. Lastly, I totally enjoyed the pizza you sported me! A great pie... Thank you very much!

DrunkSkunk,
Thank you for the kind words. I was surprised that the PMC lasted as long as it did... I always found it to be extremely accurate for what it is. I believe that it is all spoken for now. Thank you for the bump too!

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05-11-2008, 7:47 PM
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