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JayRuff
02-24-2008, 6:58 PM
nvm lol

tgriffin
02-24-2008, 7:00 PM
:dupe::xeno:

technique
02-24-2008, 7:06 PM
I think its also illegal, as i remember someone had replied the last time.

JayRuff
02-24-2008, 7:06 PM
:dupe::xeno:

I kinda figured this had to be posted before

JayRuff
02-24-2008, 7:07 PM
I think its also illegal, as i remember someone had replied the last time.

How is it illegal, your pulling the trigger for each shot

Patriot
02-24-2008, 7:13 PM
How is it illegal, your pulling the trigger for each shot

There's "multi burst trigger activator" language in PC 12020 that probably covers it as a device intended to increase a firearm's rate of fire.

JayRuff
02-24-2008, 7:15 PM
There's "multi burst trigger activator" language in PC 12020 that probably covers it as a device intended to increase a firearm's rate of fire.

oh, ok

moulton
02-24-2008, 7:16 PM
I am assuming it is a trigger activator
* 12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:(1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, or possesses any cane gun or wallet gun, any undetectable firearm, any firearm which is not immediately recognizable as a firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any ammunition which contains or consists of any flechette dart, any bullet containing or carrying an explosive agent, any ballistic knife, any multiburst trigger activator, any nunchaku, any short-barreled shotgun, any short-barreled rifle, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken, any unconventional pistol, any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy, sandclub, sap, or sandbag.
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(23) As used in this section, a "multiburst trigger activator" means one of the following devices: (A) A device designed or redesigned to be attached to a semiautomatic firearm which allows the firearm to discharge two or more shots in a burst by activating the device. (B) A manual or power-driven trigger activating device constructed and designed so that when attached to a semiautomatic firearm it increases the rate of fire of that firearm.

bohoki
02-24-2008, 7:17 PM
what bumpfire method? is it the glock bumpstick?

JayRuff
02-24-2008, 7:19 PM
what bumpfire method? is it the glock bumpstick?

No, The Rubber band method, But it's illegal I guess, try it in the desert where no one is looking

DedEye
02-24-2008, 7:23 PM
No, The Rubber band method, But it's illegal I guess, try it in the desert where no one is looking

Surely you mean in Nevada...

JayRuff
02-24-2008, 7:30 PM
Surely you mean in Nevada...

yup

bohoki
02-24-2008, 7:35 PM
No, The Rubber band method, But it's illegal I guess, try it in the desert where no one is looking

do you have an example i could see?

is it this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVfwFP_RwTQ

bumpstick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3y2Cp0pKwA

standard shirtless redneck method

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27gjMyY-rk&NR=1

DedEye
02-24-2008, 8:09 PM
do you have an example i could see?

is it this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVfwFP_RwTQ

bumpstick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3y2Cp0pKwA

standard shirtless redneck method

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27gjMyY-rk&NR=1

You forgot this gem :D:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uWfHSadtrzY

JayRuff
02-24-2008, 8:17 PM
do you have an example i could see?

is it this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVfwFP_RwTQ

bumpstick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3y2Cp0pKwA

standard shirtless redneck method

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27gjMyY-rk&NR=1

first one

dfletcher
02-24-2008, 8:17 PM
So this would be illegal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-nUA52BS3c

JayRuff
02-24-2008, 8:20 PM
So this would be illegal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-nUA52BS3c

interesting, may be illegal since he's using his belt loop

packnrat
02-24-2008, 8:21 PM
if a malfuction causing a rifle to fire more than one shot per trigger pull can be called a machinrgun then do not ever talk about a deffernt way of getting a muti firing way with your gun, the -batfe&a- does read these postings. and they know who you are. and were you have been and are going to be.:eek::TFH:



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sharpshot4life89
02-24-2008, 8:36 PM
illegal or not, i say dont try it in Kali, but if you do, its at your own risk. dont get me wrong, its fun as hell, but its one of Kali's "grey areas" that the government can flip in any direction they want. so be careful....and have fun :chris:

bohoki
02-24-2008, 9:00 PM
You forgot this gem :D:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uWfHSadtrzY

ha what is it about them fat guys and blue shirts

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KqU_JvJL-pU

dfletcher
02-24-2008, 9:19 PM
Interesting, may be illegal since he's using his belt loop


"Drop those pants and step away from the gun."

JayRuff
02-24-2008, 9:20 PM
lol.......

technique
02-24-2008, 11:09 PM
There's "multi burst trigger activator" language in PC 12020 that probably covers it as a device intended to increase a firearm's rate of fire.

That sounds about right. Bill, please chime in!

oaklander
02-25-2008, 3:25 AM
I'm going to predict what Bill will say (we'll see if I'm right) and say that the instant you wrap the rubber band around the magwell (and attach both ends to the trigger) - a DA would argue that you are "manufacturing" a prohibited device.

:D

* 12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, or possesses any cane gun or wallet gun, any undetectable firearm, any firearm which is not immediately recognizable as a firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any ammunition which contains or consists of any flechette dart, any bullet containing or carrying an explosive agent, any ballistic knife, any multiburst trigger activator, any nunchaku, any short-barreled shotgun, any short-barreled rifle, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken, any unconventional pistol, any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy, sandclub, sap, or sandbag.
........
(23) As used in this section, a "multiburst trigger activator" means one of the following devices: (A) A device designed or redesigned to be attached to a semiautomatic firearm which allows the firearm to discharge two or more shots in a burst by activating the device. (B) A manual or power-driven trigger activating device constructed and designed so that when attached to a semiautomatic firearm it increases the rate of fire of that firearm.

Chunky_lover
02-25-2008, 7:48 AM
do you have an example i could see?

is it this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVfwFP_RwTQ

bumpstick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3y2Cp0pKwA

standard shirtless redneck method

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27gjMyY-rk&NR=1

I watched the redneck version, works good if you have to shoot at the ground.

Utha Schleigle
02-25-2008, 10:07 AM
I had one the clamp-able rachet type devices with a crank and CA made them quickily made them illegal. Got rid of it and it didn't work well anyway. Did not fitt thick trigger guards and sliped off rounded small trigger guards. When you turned the crank you trigger hand no control on the gun.

The shirt off red neck method - as you said shoots at the hip uncontrolled. Wasting ammo and frying his barrel!! You can BUMP fire on the sholder AIMED and at hip with the WIGGY JIGGLE FINGER METHOD. Also his bolt has a stay open after the last round feature that might not be KOYSHER ( I would like this stay open when empty on ny builds - but it is probably not LEGALLY recammended).

In responce to all this (I forgot where I read it - I did not think this one up) the FINGER WIGGY JIGGLE method was used. I think I read this was for Marine's who wanted their shotguns to go FA in WW2. The tag line on the picture was "Brave marine stops 10 Japanese charging with burst from auto stotgun to protect medics saving wounded". Some thing about the Jeneava Convention and NO FA shotguns but that was not going to stop ingenius Marines.

First no added or modified parts - Secound gun is a semi-auto-only gun. Yes Double TAPP - Triple TAPP - 5 round tap. Each gun's mechanism is different so you have to pactrice to feel where the disconntor comes into play. You just use your finger (don't tell you wife - she will think up a way for you to practice) Does not work on full double action only triggers - where it is a double action only mechanisim ( like the Grendel 380acp small pistol and some SW semi auto pistols. Main advantages both hands on and controling gun - aimed fire - control bursts with practice - on sholder and on hip.

I would only do this in the desert because most ranges will freak.

DedEye
02-25-2008, 3:38 PM
I had one the clamp-able rachet type devices with a crank and CA made them quickily made them illegal. Got rid of it and it didn't work well anyway. Did not fit thick trigger guards and sliped off rounded small trigger guards. When you turned the crank you trigger hand no control on the gun.

The shirt off red neck method - as you said shoots at the hip uncontrolled. Wasting ammo and frying his barrel!! You can BUMP fire on the sholder AIMED and at hip with the WIGGY JIGGLE FINGER METHOD. Also his bolt has a stay open after the last round feature that might not be KOYSHER ( I would like this stay open when empty on ny builds - but it is probably not LEGALLY recammended).

In responce to all this (I forgot where I read it - I did not think this one up) the FINGER WIGGY JIGGLE method was used. I think I read this was for Marine's who wanted their shotguns to go FA in WW2. The tag line on the picture was "Brave marine stops 10 Japanese charging with burst from auto stotgun to protect madics saving wounded". Some thing about the Jeneava Convention and NO FA shotguns but that was not going to stop ingenius Marines.

First no added or modified parts - Secound gun is a semi-auto-only gun. Yes Double TAPP - Triple TAPP - 5 round tap. Each gun's mechanism is different so you have to pactrice to feel where the disconntor comes into play. You just use your finger (don't tell you wife - she will think up a way for you to practice) Does not work on full double action only triggers - where it is a double action only mechanisim ( like the Grendel 380acp small pistol and some SW semi auto pistols. Main advantages both hands on and controling gun - aimed fire - control bursts with practice - on sholder and on hip.

I would only do this in the desert because most ranges will freak.

Why would a bolt hold open be illegal?

Utha Schleigle
02-25-2008, 8:11 PM
I know it is OK for 1911-A 45acp pistols. I HOPE I AM WRONG. I thought that early in the AW's farce that semi-auto rifle's were not suppose to stay open on empty. making it easier to reload and was considered a military feature. When the Chinese imported the MAK90 it was a "SPORTING" rifle and the FEDS dreamt up some laws so you could not convert back to a military stlye rifle - like no bayonettes/stay open on empty/pistol grips.

If I am wrong SUPER COOL. I was drawing out a plate like on mt SAIGA for my ROMMY G's.

Utha Schleigle
02-25-2008, 8:51 PM
You're wrong, but you're cool.

You may be confused with firearms designed to fire from an open bolt: like the Uzi, M3 Grease Gun and Ingram MAC-10/11 submachine guns among others. The round is fired as it is chambered, the bolt is blown back and cycles the following round.

Open bolt actions help in cooling and prevent cook off's. By their nature they are less accurate.

I still hope I am wrong, but I was not reffering to open bolt style of action. I will ask other forum if it is OK. I am cofused??? as usualy!!!:confused:

Maybe - if this was a part of a law it expired. ANY whooo BUMP AWAY.

I forgot to say once you get the WIGGLE JIGGLE Method down you can change the rate of fire. Some thing even the GERMANS have not thought up (because it is too simple). The tighter/faster your finger and grip of the rifle the faster the fire. The more you use a slow FINGER WIGGLE and use recoil of rifle with looser grip on the rifle / the slower the rate of fire. You can mimick the slow Boom Boom Boom of a 1919 BAR - RAT TAT TAT of a VICKERS - The Bang B B B B Bang of a TOMMY - the BuRRRRRRP of a Hilters Zipper. Different bursts and rates of fire with out changing buffers and camms.:D

Utha Schleigle
02-26-2008, 9:46 PM
I checked with other forum - they THINK that I am still wrong - they think that stay open on empty/ semi auto/ closed bolt operation is OOOtay - OK.
(THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE I WILL STILL RESEARCH) Your Legal mileage may vary!!!!

WhiteDingo
02-26-2008, 10:02 PM
I checked with other forum - they THINK that I am still wrong - they think that stay open on empty/ semi auto/ closed bolt operation is OOOtay - OK.
(THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE I WILL STILL RESEARCH) Your Legal mileage may vary!!!!

Last round bolt hold open is the standard on the AR15....I'm not sure why you think it's not legal. I've not ever heard anything different. You would think everyone on the forums that owns an AR would be in jail if it was true....

zcktomcat
02-26-2008, 11:51 PM
A bolt hold open device and open bolt gun are different.
On AR they stay open after the last round is fired to ease reloading and chambering the next mag. Open bolt is a gun that holds the bolt open when cocked and the recoil spring is compressed. Once the trigger is pulled, it releases the bolt, which is pushed by the spring forward, strips a round from the magazine, chambers it and fires it. Unlike an closed bolt AR which will have a hammer strike the firing pin on the chambered round. They are illegal because they are supposed be to easier to convert to full auto and the design is pretty much immune to cook off and allows the barrel to cool down more rapidly.

aplinker
02-27-2008, 3:56 AM
:wheelchair:

I think I lost braincells reading this thread.

Whatever happened to the video of the guy bumpfiring and causing his holstered pistol to ND?