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HUTCH 7.62
02-23-2008, 9:32 PM
Why does the military use Winchester floorplates and where can I find Remington long actions?

02-23-2008, 9:36 PM
You can find Remington long actions on well'.... long actions. As for winchester bottom metal, it don't belong on a Rem long action.

HUTCH 7.62
02-23-2008, 9:38 PM
that does'nt answer my question john. there has to be a reason why a winchester part on an otherwise remington gun.

02-23-2008, 10:16 PM
Where are you seeing the military using Winchester floorplates on a Remington 700 action?

02-23-2008, 10:38 PM
It must have something to do with the infamous 'Kalifornia diversity in sniper rifles' act of 2008.... you can tell by the rainbow serial number

02-23-2008, 10:45 PM
On the Marines' M40A1 sniper rifle, they use a Remington action (albeit a short action) and Winchester bottom metal. It's true!


TBA Remington 700 Barreled Action with 24" or 26", 12" Twist, S/S Sniper Taper Barrel, Krieger or Mike Rock
Smooth (or stipled) McMillan General Purpose Hunting Sock in epoxy molded Forest Camo (other colors available)
Receiver is Clip Slotted and “U.S.” marked, drilled and tapped for iron sight bases
“7.62 NATO” marked barrel
Blackened Steel Machined Follower
Blackened Firing Pin Indicator
USMC modified Winchester M70 Hinged Floorplate and Trigger Guard
Parts stamped with last four numerals of receiver serial number
Unertl type scope mount with lugs, 30mm or 1” rings
.60” Pachmayer Brown Pad, optional length of pull
1-1/2” Heavy Gauge Wichita Engineering Sling Swivels
Old style trigger assembly with dual sear, bolt lock, and machined safety head available at extra cost (ask about it)
All metal parts are finished with TBA’s matte black Dura-Coat® coating
Weight is approximately 14 lbs. without scope

02-23-2008, 10:53 PM
I think the Winchester floorplate thing was done on the M-40 and possibly others. Not that I found it interesting enough to care. You can probably find enough floorplate options to cause mass confusion Midway or Brownells.

02-24-2008, 2:44 AM
Ummm..that is TBA's version, not an actual issue rifle. If that were the case, I'd order the .22 shown on the same page for my shooters.

02-24-2008, 3:16 AM
Ummm..that is TBA's version, not an actual issue rifle. If that were the case, I'd order the .22 shown on the same page for my shooters.

Beat me to it!

02-24-2008, 3:33 AM
I don't know if you two are correct about that. It seems several sources confirm the use of the Winchester trigger guard for the aluminum Remington, as the USMC considered the aluminum one not durable enough.

02-24-2008, 6:23 AM
yes the m40a1 had a modified winchester floorplate, it is a 2 piece design. you can buy a williams that looks exactly the same. if you plan on making an m40a1 you need about 3000 dollars for a decient one sans scope and it is a short action. the armys abortion of a rifle is long action.

02-24-2008, 6:49 AM
Ummm..that is TBA's version, not an actual issue rifle. If that were the case, I'd order the .22 shown on the same page for my shooters.

Yes, it's TBA's version, but if you look elsewhere on that website, you see that the gunsmiths are all ex-USMC armorers... who made M40A1's.

02-24-2008, 6:52 AM
Here's the M40A1 specs

M40A1 Sniper Rifle
The M40A1 sniper rifle is based on the Remington model 700. It is a heavy barrel, bolt action, magazine fed 7.62mm rifle that is optimized for accuracy with Match Grade ammunition. The rifle is equipped with a special 10 power Unertl sniper scope. With scope, the rifle weighs approximately 14.5 pounds. It is equipped with a built-in five round magazine. This weapon is hand-made by specially trained and qualified armorers at Quantico, Virginia. The unique characteristics of the M40A1 Sniper Rifle are: commercial competition-grade heavy barrel, McMillan fiberglass stock and butt pad, modified Winchester Model 70 floorplate and trigger guard, and modified and lightened trigger. In addition, each stock is epoxy bedded for accuracy and all weapons must shoot less than one minute of angle (MOA). The M40A1 was put into service in the 1970s to meet the need of a long range sniper rifle. Each rifle is hand built by specially trained and qualified personnel at the Marine Corps Marksmanship Training Unit (MTU) at Quantico, Virginia.

Manufacturer: Specially trained armorers at Quantico, Virginia.
Length: 44 inches (111.76 centimeters)
Barrel length: 24 inches (61 centimeters)
Weight: 14.5 pounds (6.58 kilograms)
Bore diameter: 7.62mm (.308 inches)
Maximum effective range: 1000 yards (914 meters)
Muzzle velocity: 2550 feet (777 meters) per second
Chamber pressure: 50,000 psi
Magazine capacity: 5 rounds
Unit Replacement Cost: $2,105

IIRC the modified M70 floorplate was used because A) it was stronger than the Rem700 floorplate and B) it was a little deeper allowing, with modification, the ability to put 5 rounds in the box instead of 4.

02-24-2008, 8:05 AM
M40A1 bottom metal.


HUTCH 7.62
02-24-2008, 9:52 AM
I was thinking on slowly building a m-40 a1 or a3 but chambered in .300win mag to replace my old P-14 enfield hunting rifle also chambered in 300 win mag. I already have several 308 rifles so another 308 would be over kill

02-24-2008, 10:08 AM
the military has their own gunsmiths building sniper rifles these days. they probobly just incorperate what they like. how they hinge or maybe some other function they like about it. but the military basicly builds their own sniper rifles

02-24-2008, 12:11 PM
This is all OLD NEWS since the Marines have gone to the Badger Bottom Metal & AICS magazine setup for their M40A3 rifles.

02-24-2008, 3:43 PM
Well, IMHO the A1 is just a nicer stick to me.

02-24-2008, 4:33 PM
here's a link at snipers hide titled M40a1 build guide.that also talks about the floor plate http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=140283#Post140283

02-24-2008, 7:39 PM
correct the Marines built their rifles with Winchester trigger guards because they were stronger than Rem.