View Full Version : .22lr semi-auto rifle exempt from 30" in length rule?

River Jack
02-17-2008, 9:41 AM
Since PC 12276.1 (a)(3) is specifically for center fire semi-auto rifles, is it legal to have, build, buy or posses a .22lr rifle (AR or AK) that when the stock is collapsed or folded, the length is less than 30"?

02-17-2008, 9:59 AM
Rimfire rifles can be under 30" but must be over 26".

02-17-2008, 10:21 AM
As said, our AW laws only effect centerfire semi-auto rifles. So you can have a rimfire rifle be 26" or longer. Just be warned, many times a rimfire with a 16" barrel and foldering stock fall under 26". Just be careful about that. Under federal law the firearm is measured with stock open, under California law it is measured stock closed. I know for a fact that the factory Rugre 10/22 carbine with a Butler Creek folder on it is less than 26". You would need to add something to the rear, the muzzle, or disable the folding feature of the stock.

Also, over all length does not need to be permanent, only barrel length. So if you thread on a 2" flash suppressor to meet length, than that is legal. It does NOT have to be pinned and welded.

River Jack
02-17-2008, 11:07 AM
Thanks; that is exactly what I needed to know. Curious though, where is the 26" rule stated?

02-17-2008, 11:20 AM
Both Federal and State laws restrict it. Here it is from California's Penal Code:

12020 (c) (2) As used in this section, a "short-barreled rifle" means any of the following:

(A) A rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
(B) A rifle with an overall length of less than 26 inches.
(C) Any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if
that weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or
barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
(D) Any device which may be readily restored to fire a fixed cartridge which, when so
restored, is a device defined in subparagraphs (A) to (C), inclusive.
(E) Any part, or combination of parts, designed and intended to convert a device into a
device defined in subparagraphs (A) to (C), inclusive, or any combination of parts from
which a device defined in subparagraphs (A) to (C), inclusive, may be readily assembled
if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

ETA: The ATF measures with the stock open, as do most states. California, however, has case law that established since a folding stock was not required for the operation of the firearm it was therefor not necessary to be included in the measurement of the firearm so California now measures the firearm in it's shortest functioning configuration. This is why the Kel-Tec rifles are legal, because they can not function when folded, where as other folders are not legal, even ones without pistol grips.

River Jack
02-17-2008, 11:25 AM
Very informative. Thanks again.