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supersonic
02-15-2008, 7:34 PM
After a 17 month wait, I think it's safe to say IT WAS WORTH IT!!!:
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(L to R) .223 / .308 / .30-06 / .338 Lapua Magnum
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ARMALITE AR-30 .338 LAPUA MAG / NIGHTFORCE NXS 8-32x56 W/MLR RETICLE (ILLUMINATED) & NIGHTFORCE ULTRALIGHT RINGS W/TITANIUM CROSSBOLT & JAW / HARRIS BIPOD "1500 yds., here I come!!!!!!!:44:

ghost
02-15-2008, 7:38 PM
congrats to the new toy:D

Guns R Tools
02-15-2008, 7:39 PM
Now you need huge safe. :)

How much eash shot is gonna cost you? something like 2 gallons of gas each shot? :D

Hoop
02-15-2008, 7:39 PM
Holy hell that thing is a beast.

Casual_Shooter
02-15-2008, 7:40 PM
OMF'ingG :D

cornholio1
02-15-2008, 7:40 PM
Wow..I like it. Hopefully mine arrives soon

DesertGunner
02-15-2008, 7:42 PM
How much did that run you?

BTW: SWEET!

capitol
02-15-2008, 7:42 PM
I don't want to be near that cannon when its fired. That brake SCREAMS percussion.
Sweet thunder stick for sure...

C.G.
02-15-2008, 8:00 PM
Now you need huge safe. :)

How much eash shot is gonna cost you? something like 2 gallons of gas each shot? :D

About a gallon, if you don't reload.

BTW, nice!:cool2:

liketoshoot
02-15-2008, 8:04 PM
MAN-O-MAN, I'm glad you're on our side! Right?

Oh and I like the rack too.

apbrian112
02-15-2008, 8:04 PM
that is darn sexy! i'd like to say definately worth the wait!

Pugster
02-15-2008, 8:04 PM
My goodness. You are gonna decimate all the bears/zombies/mountain lions/paper targets in your area.

Your rifle + scope cost more than my car :shock:

tiger222
02-15-2008, 8:11 PM
nice stick - be sure to wear foamies and a headset earmuffs....

shot a AR50 with only foamies and the backward muzzle blast sucked the foamies out of my ears slightly only slam it with the noise of 50...

my ears have never been quite the same since.

also there was a guy on sniper's hide who cut out the weird thumbhole stock-ish bar and it looked a lot cleaner.

congrats!

5150socal
02-15-2008, 8:14 PM
What a great looking rifle! :43:
So, I hope this isn't a totally stupid question(being how this forum is called calguuns), but, Is this AR 30 ca legal? And is it available to the civilian public?
Also, do you have Any rec's on the best places to order/purchase this bad boy?
Thanks alot for the info, and enjoy you new baby!
Eddie

ke6guj
02-15-2008, 8:20 PM
So, I hope this isn't a totally stupid question(being how this forum is called calguuns), but, Is this AR 30 ca legal? And is it available to the civilian public?
Eddie

Yup, CA legal. Basically the only bolt-action rifles that are restricted are .50BMG, short-barrel rifle, or Destructive Device if over .50.

metalhead357
02-15-2008, 8:22 PM
I'll trade ya' a doller for each moth ya' had to wait for it!!!!:p

But the question remains.......How the blasted tarnations are ya' gonna keep that thing FED!!!!!!!!!?????????????

leelaw
02-15-2008, 8:30 PM
Looks bery nice, but .50BMG is better ;)

Yeah.. I'm still jealous...

dasmi
02-15-2008, 8:31 PM
Oh, *****in'

rksimple
02-15-2008, 8:39 PM
With how expensive it is to feed, I wouldn't even bother pulling the trigger under 1k. Thats an ELR rifle from the get-go. Are you using 250's or 300's?

quagmiles
02-15-2008, 8:55 PM
NOW, THATS A MANS WEAPON!

JagerTroop
02-15-2008, 9:01 PM
Wow. Nice rifle. Very easy on the shoulder too. Shot one in 300 win mag a few months ago, and kicked less that a FAL. Congrats!! :hurray:

Q
02-15-2008, 9:12 PM
that's nice!:cool:

Fast Eddie
02-15-2008, 9:25 PM
Holy crap that thing is a monster, I want one.;)

1064chubbs
02-15-2008, 9:48 PM
That is beautiful :tt1::drool5::gunsmilie:

akjunkie
02-15-2008, 10:07 PM
fine weapons come out of Turkey.

ar15barrels
02-15-2008, 10:19 PM
ARMALITE AR-30 .338 LAPUA MAG / NIGHTFORCE NXS 8-32x56 W/MLR RETICLE (ILLUMINATED) & NIGHTFORCE ULTRALIGHT RINGS W/TITANIUM CLAW / HARRIS BIPOD "1500 yds., here I come!!!!!!!:44:

How much elevation is built into the scope mount rail?
You are going to want 30 MOA to get to 1500, even with that scope.

C.G.
02-15-2008, 10:30 PM
How much elevation is built into the scope mount rail?
You are going to want 30 MOA to get to 1500, even with that scope.

Yup, my Ferret .338 LM came standard with a 30 MOA rail, for a good reason.

Addax
02-15-2008, 11:01 PM
Nice, Real Nice! :43:

ohsmily
02-15-2008, 11:03 PM
You need to get lower rings man. Get that scope closer to the bore axis. As it sits, it is pretty damned high.

Oh, to the folks wondering about reloading....with Sierra MK bullets and reusing your brass, you can reload for pretty close to 1.00 per round. Factory ammunition is 4.00 per round and up.

50BMGBOB
02-15-2008, 11:48 PM
Nice rifle. Congratulations!

Might not want lower rings. On my AR50 you need extra high rings to get a good position on the cheek rest. If the cheek rest is lowered to much the bolt handle will hit it. I trimmed my cheek rest about 1/4' so I could lower it all the way and still open the bolt.

HeHateMe
02-15-2008, 11:51 PM
Got BOOM? Dayuuum!! Nice!

Stormfeather
02-15-2008, 11:57 PM
NOW, THATS A MANS WEAPON!

Puhhhleezeee. . . .youre kidding right? She enjoys my .50 more than I do.


http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/2007OLLShoot_021a-1.jpg

Heatseeker
02-16-2008, 12:11 AM
Dang Sonic, that thing is sweet!

So, when were we gonna go shooting?:D

supersonic
02-16-2008, 5:47 AM
fine weapons come out of Turkey.

Actually, the only Armalites made in Turkey are the new pistolas (AR-24?), as the AR-30 & AR-50 (along w/ the AR-15/AR-10 are made in Geneseo, Il., U.S.A.) As far as the scope/base goes, the rifle ONLY comes with this special 1913 base (it has a machined-in recoil "T" lug that mates with a "T" slot on top of the receiver, and is 15 MOA). I know I could be using shorter rings, but the scope (and rings) have been in the safe waiting for a rifle "worthy" of them for about 3 yrs. now, so I think I'll take it out & see how far I can hit the steel until I run out of elevation. Who knows, because the scope sits up a bit, it just might make 1K & beyond as is! (THAT scope has AN EXTREME amount of elevation to play with!:)) Thanks for all the kudos & comments, guys, as this will probably be the "KING" of my safe for MANY,MANY years (if not forever!), and - unless I win the Lotto or marry a rich "sugar-mama" - I don't see myself spending this much on a weapon again .......... EVER............maybe:p But, believe me, I'm suffering financially for this HARD!!!!!!! But when certain "entities" call to bug me about a late payment on a card........I just have to look at my "BLACK DESTROYER" & all my woes/stress go away......I'm just imagining what it will feel like the first time I launch one of my.....hmmmm........225?.........250?.........NAH! 300gr. Sierra MKHPBT missiles downrange!!!!!!!!!!!:eek::D

supersonic
02-16-2008, 5:58 AM
also there was a guy on sniper's hide who cut out the weird thumbhole stock-ish bar and it looked a lot cleaner.

congrats!

That guy was defeating the purpose of what the "Grip-Frame" of an AR-30 is all about!!!!:confused: The thumbhole-stockish - looking thing is the actual GRIP part of the GRIP FRAME, and is designed (and perfectly placed & comfortable, I might add!!!) so that you can "grip it" with your off hand while getting on target / firing the weapon. If that dude is happy with his "handiwork", more power to him, but I think I'll leave mine as-is. It's good to have something (preferably near the back / bottom of the buttstock) to hold onto for that "extra" stability when firing a weapon of this type from the bench or prone. ;)

hung380
02-16-2008, 7:30 AM
Where did you order that beast? How much did it cost you just for the rifle?
Please let me know soon so that I can place an order. thanks

Flux Capacitor
02-16-2008, 7:33 AM
Where did you order that beast? How much did it cost you just for the rifle?
Please let me know soon so that I can place an order. thanks

Armalite sells it direct. Their website says it retails for $1,774.00 EA.

kurac
02-16-2008, 7:37 AM
Nice, I have been wanting one of those for a while, please post a range report on how she does at distance.

Flux Capacitor
02-16-2008, 7:47 AM
Nice, I have been wanting one of those for a while, please post a range report on how she does at distance.


+1 and if the ring height is good enough

ar15barrels
02-16-2008, 10:05 AM
my Ferret .338 LM came standard with a 30 MOA rail, for a good reason.

My 50BMG Viper also has 30 MOA built into the rail.

ar15barrels
02-16-2008, 10:27 AM
As far as the scope/base goes, the rifle ONLY comes with this special 1913 base (it has a machined-in recoil "T" lug that mates with a "T" slot on top of the receiver, and is 15 MOA). I know I could be using shorter rings, but the scope (and rings) have been in the safe waiting for a rifle "worthy" of them for about 3 yrs. now, so I think I'll take it out & see how far I can hit the steel until I run out of elevation. Who knows, because the scope sits up a bit, it just might make 1K & beyond as is! (THAT scope has AN EXTREME amount of windage to play with!:))

Just because the scope has a lot of elevation, that does not mean you can use it all up.
When you use most of the elevation, the windage will get severely limited.
Ideally, you would not be using more than 2/3 of the available elevation.

Your scope has 65MOA of elevation.
Split that in half because only half of it goes UP while the other half is wasted.
Now add the 15 MOA built into the base and you have about 47MOA of usable elevation.
Refering to the 300gr SMK trajectory below, you should be able to get to about 1400yds with that setup, depending on how much elevation you lose to the initial 100yd zero.
You will have bottomed out the scope at this point and have NO windage available.
I would not recommend using that setup past about 1200yds.
If you really want to shoot long range, you should consider a mount with more elevation built-in.


Tabular trajectory data at Non-Std. Atmosphere
Gunsite altitude : 3700 ft.
Air density : 0.072982 lb./ft³
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Gun / Ammunition : .338 Lapua Mag.
Bullet : .338, 300, Sierra HPBT LR MatchK 9300
Bullet weight : 300 grains or 19.44 Grams
Muzzle velocity : 2750 fps
Crosswind speed : 5 Mph
Ballistic Coefficient(s) (G1):
C1=0.755@V>2300 fps;
C2=0.747@V>1800 fps;
C3=0.737@V>0 fps;


Optimum trajectory information :
Optimum sight-in range (X) = 223 Yds.
with max. ordinate above LOS at range (M)= 135 Yds.
and max. point blank range (P)= 259 Yds.
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Sight-in clicks, 1 click = 0.915 cm/100 yd. or 0.36 in/100 yd.
Height of sight above bore axis = 6.35 cm or 2.50 inch
Gun is zeroed-in at 100 yds,
by sighting-in at level firing
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Range Velo Time of Energy Path Deflection Total Sight correction Target
city flight to at crosswind drop for setting new lead
LOS of 5.0 Mph zero range 33 fps
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·Yards fps s ft.lbs. in. in. MOA in. Clicks MOA yds ·
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| 0 2750 0.0000 5037 -2.5 0.0 ----- 0.0 ------ ----- 0.00
X 100 2635 0.1119 4626 0.0 0.2 0.24 2.4 0.0 0.00 1.22
M 102 2633 0.1142 4618 0.0 0.3 0.24 2.5 0.0 0.00 1.25
P 190 2535 0.2163 4280 -2.0 0.8 0.40 8.8 +2.9 +1.01 2.37
| 200 2524 0.2281 4242 -2.4 0.9 0.42 9.8 +3.5 +1.19 2.49
| 300 2415 0.3486 3884 -10.2 1.9 0.60 22.5 +9.5 +3.28 3.81
| 400 2308 0.4757 3549 -24.1 3.5 0.83 41.2 +16.8 +5.78 5.20
| 500 2204 0.6094 3235 -44.6 5.6 1.08 66.7 +24.8 +8.55 6.66
| 600 2102 0.7491 2942 -72.3 8.3 1.33 99.2 +33.5 +11.52 8.19
| 700 2002 0.8943 2670 -107.4 11.5 1.57 139.3 +42.7 +14.68 9.78
| 800 1905 1.0458 2418 -150.7 15.3 1.82 187.5 +52.4 +18.01 11.44
| 900 1812 1.2082 2186 -204.7 20.0 2.12 246.4 +63.2 +21.74 13.21
| 1000 1721 1.3802 1973 -270.0 25.5 2.44 316.5 +75.0 +25.80 15.09
| 1100 1634 1.5609 1778 -347.1 31.8 2.76 398.6 +87.7 +30.15 17.07
| 1200 1550 1.7493 1600 -436.5 38.8 3.09 492.9 +101.0 +34.76 19.13
| 1300 1470 1.9455 1439 -539.1 46.5 3.42 600.4 +115.2 +39.62 21.28
| 1400 1395 2.1551 1296 -659.8 55.4 3.78 726.0 +130.9 +45.02 23.57
| 1500 1326 2.3768 1171 -799.7 65.3 4.16 870.8 +148.1 +50.93 25.99
| 1600 1262 2.6081 1061 -958.7 76.1 4.54 1034.7 +166.4 +57.23 28.52
| 1700 1204 2.8516 966 -1140.9 87.9 4.94 1221.8 +186.3 +64.10 31.19
| 1800 1153 3.1062 886 -1347.9 100.7 5.34 1433.8 +207.9 +71.52 33.97
| 1900 1109 3.3716 819 -1582.0 114.5 5.76 1672.7 +231.2 +79.52 36.87
| 2000 1071 3.6470 764 -1844.8 129.2 6.17 1940.4 +256.1 +88.08 39.88

J_Rock
02-16-2008, 10:39 AM
Holy Crap!!! Tell me when you're gonna be at the YSA with that thing. I wanna see it in action. :D

Steyr_223
02-16-2008, 11:02 AM
Sweet Haile Selassie! That is great mon!

supersonic
02-16-2008, 1:47 PM
Just because the scope has a lot of elevation, that does not mean you can use it all up.
When you use most of the elevation, the windage will get severely limited.
Ideally, you would not be using more than 2/3 of the available elevation.
.

I'm using the Nightforce EXBAL software in my Palm Pilot, but my conditions are much different (as is the MOA info) than that HUGE (thanks, though!:)) ballistics table you provided me with for the SMK300 bullet @ 2750 fps. I'll just have to start where my dope points to, & follow that. Then, if needed (and if I want to reach out further, I'll probably have Al Talbot fabricate me one of his QD bases with 30 MOA built-in.

cobra198
02-16-2008, 2:39 PM
Woah, that is so intense. Awesome... Have fun!!

supersonic
02-16-2008, 5:43 PM
Really, thanks for all the compliments, guys! You guys are psyching me up so much about this "BEAST", that I'm starting to have heart palpitations!!!! I'm going to start bright ' n ' early tomorrow and get all 100 of my Norma cases loaded up w/ 225gr. Hornady SST's to fire-form the brass. THEN,(at some point in time after that) it's time to stretch her legs out & see what she can do!!!!!!!!! I'm a happy boy!!!!!!!!:D:D:D

ivanimal
02-16-2008, 6:06 PM
Me jealous.:p

Prc329
02-16-2008, 8:28 PM
Nice rifle. I've been thinking of getting a Ferret in 338 and using one of these Click here (https://www.vbd.com/noc/shop/products_detail.asp?CategoryID=29&ProductID=303) to build it on. using a PRS Stock.

supersonic
02-16-2008, 9:38 PM
Me jealous.:p

Me flattered. Maybe make it so you come up to YSA sooner than thought to shoot???????;) (Actually, it be more than likely Sac Valley because of the long-range (1000 yds.) facilities).:D

JayRuff
02-17-2008, 2:54 AM
lol, Why would u need something so damn powerful :eek: , oh well, I'm sure it's a blast to shoot

BTW Why did it take 17 months to receive?

FEDUPWBS
02-17-2008, 5:11 AM
lol, Why would u need something so damn powerful :eek: , oh well, I'm sure it's a blast to shoot

BTW Why did it take 17 months to receive?

Because he doesnt need it, and this is still the USA dammit thats why he needs it!

supersonic
02-17-2008, 9:48 AM
MAN-O-MAN, I'm glad you're on our side! Right?

Oh and I like the rack too.

OF COURSE!!!!THAT'S why I got this in the first place: so when we CalGunners have to ALL ban together somewhere up North (I predict that the Zombies will be coming from the South - don't ask me how I know:rolleyes:), I'll be able to see 'em coming and pick them off (the BIGGEST ones:D) a mile away, and the ones that get by my 300gr copper ballistic missile will be mowed down by the other wonderful pieces of machinery owned by us all when they get somewhere inside 1000 yds.!!!!!!! It's a foolproof plan!! THAT's what we're all planning for, innit'?:p:p:p

ar15barrels
02-17-2008, 10:28 AM
OF COURSE!!!!I predict that the Zombies will be coming from the South - don't ask me how I know

See, that's where you have it all wrong!

The Zombies will be coming from the north.
Most likely down the I-5 corridor.
We have our plans in-place to setup all our precision long-range rifleman (snipers) along the grapevine.
The Zombies will be forced by the landscape to converge into the valley.
At that point, it's fish-in-a-barrel.

supersonic
02-17-2008, 12:51 PM
See, that's where you have it all wrong!

The Zombies will be coming from the north.
Most likely down the I-5 corridor.
We have our plans in-place to setup all our precision long-range rifleman (snipers) along the grapevine.
The Zombies will be forced by the landscape to converge into the valley.
At that point, it's fish-in-a-barrel.

LMMFAO!!!! Well, let us make sure we avoid any "living" casualties, as there will be long-range fire going down (from the North) and coming up (from the South):p
p.s.- judging from your theory, then it would be waaay more effective to just have air support. Then, when ZHTF, the entire interstate can just be nailed down the entire length with Napalm (isolated to just the highway, in a precision laser-guided strike, after 5 has been evacuated completely of ALL the "UN-UNDEAD"), thereby eliminating civilian casualties. Then, any remaining "vagrant" or "straggling" stink-rots that didn't receive the proper "melting" their "brethren" did, can just be picked off by the "others" with the proper tools / weaponry ("US")!!!:D

Ugly Dwarf
02-17-2008, 1:26 PM
That is a good looking rig. I had a chance to shoot an AR-30 a few months back... a very nice gun.

My shoulder hurts just thinking of a full range day shooting that .338 Lapua. I know my shoulder is good for 50 rounds from my .300 Weatherby in a day, and by all acounts the .338 LM is that much more. On the other hand, with the brake and weight, it may be very manageble.

Looking forward to hearing how it goes on the range. Where are you planning to go for the long range stuff?

rksimple
02-17-2008, 3:56 PM
Hey SS, where can you shoot to 1500 up there? We've got some places down here in the desert you could hit a mile or more. Come on down.

Now your quest should be finding a rangefinder up to the task of 1300+ yards. Past 1k, where your bullet will be coming in like a mortar:D, a miscalculation of as little as 20 yards spells "MISS." Plus, being close to the limit of elevation adjustment in the scope, you may need to be holding off for those 1400-1500 yard shots. You definitly need a good LRF.

rksimple
02-17-2008, 4:16 PM
Forgot to add as well, a good weather station like a kestrel. Station pressure and temperature will have quite a bearing on things at ELR.

C.G.
02-17-2008, 9:46 PM
Nice rifle. I've been thinking of getting a Ferret in 338 and using one of these Click here (https://www.vbd.com/noc/shop/products_detail.asp?CategoryID=29&ProductID=303) to build it on. using a PRS Stock.

You mean like this:
http://www.sailmontereybay.com/Photos/Ferret_.338LM2a.JPG

Except I am using an old FAB-10 lower.:)

supersonic
02-18-2008, 12:36 AM
Nice rifle. Congratulations!

Might not want lower rings. On my AR50 you need extra high rings to get a good position on the cheek rest. If the cheek rest is lowered to much the bolt handle will hit it. I trimmed my cheek rest about 1/4' so I could lower it all the way and still open the bolt.

The AR-30 doesn't have the adjustable cheek rest, like the AR-50 does. This was initially a concern for me....until I got behind it and did a cheek - weld. Absolutely purrrrrrfect!....And PADDED, too!!!!!!!:)

Prc329
02-18-2008, 12:39 AM
You mean like this:
http://www.sailmontereybay.com/Photos/Ferret_.338LM2a.JPG

Except I am using an old FAB-10 lower.:)

Exactly.

supersonic
02-18-2008, 11:24 AM
Looks bery nice, but .50BMG is better ;)

Yeah.. I'm still jealous...

....maybe in anti-material applications, but my groups will be waaaaaay smaller @ 1500 - 2000 yds.:p I was reading some technical info on the exterior/terminal ballistics of this thing: at 1500 METERS, (that's further than yards, as you know) the 250gr. A-MAX bullet is still carrying more energy with it than a 240gr. slug from your garden-variety .44 MAGNUM.........AT THE FRIGGIN' MUZZLE!!!!!!!!!:eek: THAT's..................an insanely powerful cartridge!!!!!!!! AND, for the price of this gun compared to the Sako's/AIAW's/Barrett's/COBB's/etc., etc., THAT's MAJOR "bang-for-buck!!!!!!" Armalite even saw to it that it comes standard with a triple-lapped, match BBL!!:D

rksimple
02-18-2008, 2:33 PM
....maybe in anti-material applications, but my groups will be waaaaaay smaller @ 1500 - 2000 yds.:p

With a match quality 50 barrel and some 750 amax's, the 50 will definitly do better to 2k. But at what cost? I don't want to spend 40 bucks for 20 amax's. Add on 245 grains of powder and an expensive primer and case, and thats too rich for my blood. The 338 is a great performer in that intermediate range between the 308 and 50. Another good one in there, on a budget, is the 7wsm. Run the numbers on the 180 berger at 2850-2900 fps. It tracks a little flatter than the 300 smk with about the same wind. Still can't match the energy though. OK, I'm rambling, long story short, bring it down here for a desert shoot!

brando
02-18-2008, 2:46 PM
It's hard enough to find a place to shoot 1000 yds here in CA, let alone 1500 or 2k. .338LM is very reasonable choice.

ivorykid
02-18-2008, 3:31 PM
I have and love the AR-30's big bro (AR-50). It is expensive to feed, but not too bad when spread over time. I think you would be surprised at the recoil (or lack thereof) with the muzzle brake that's on there. When shooting the .50, I hardly notice the recoil... but the concussive pressure wave that smacks you in the face will help you remember that you're shooting a powerful cartridge... and it places a permanent smile on your face! :)

supersonic
02-18-2008, 6:17 PM
I have and love the AR-30's big bro (AR-50). It is expensive to feed, but not too bad when spread over time. I think you would be surprised at the recoil (or lack thereof) with the muzzle brake that's on there. When shooting the .50, I hardly notice the recoil... but the concussive pressure wave that smacks you in the face will help you remember that you're shooting a powerful cartridge... and it places a permanent smile on your face! :)

I know EXACTLY what you are talking about!!!! I've shot the AR-50 about 4-5 times now, and the way I describe it is: it (the muzzle blast)feels like the combination of MAJOR sinus pressure + a migraine headache......ALL in a nanosecond, then it's all over (except for all the "still flying" debris that happened to be within 20 ft. of that brake!). Yes, your shoulder is no more less for the wear (which surprises the HELL out of you, being you just unleashed 6 tons per sq. in. of horrifying POWER from your shoulder), and you ABSOLUTELY DO get that inevitable sh*t-eating grin on your mug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

eguns-com
02-18-2008, 6:27 PM
I know EXACTLY what you are talking about!!!! I've shot the AR-50 about 4-5 times now, and the way I describe it is: it (the muzzle blast)feels like the combination of MAJOR sinus pressure + a migraine headache......ALL in a nanosecond


Interesting. The McBros (McMillan) I've shot does not put a pressure wave across the shooter. At least not one that has any sort of negative effects or that I have noticed... Just those standing to the rear side of the shooter get the blast wave. Maybe the grin pushes out me noticing the pressure wave ;-)

Chad

ohsmily
02-18-2008, 7:14 PM
....maybe in anti-material applications, but my groups will be waaaaaay smaller @ 1500 - 2000 yds.:p I was reading some technical info on the exterior/terminal ballistics of this thing: at 1500 METERS, (that's further than yards, as you know) the 250gr. A-MAX bullet is still carrying more energy with it than a 240gr. slug from your garden-variety .44 MAGNUM.........AT THE FRIGGIN' MUZZLE!!!!!!!!!:eek: THAT's..................an insanely powerful cartridge!!!!!!!! AND, for the price of this gun compared to the Sako's/AIAW's/Barrett's/COBB's/etc., etc., THAT's MAJOR "bang-for-buck!!!!!!" Armalite even saw to it that it comes standard with a triple-lapped, match BBL!!:D

You need to be under pretty ideal conditions to even consider making quality hits at 2K with 338LM.

Also, how much was this rifle? I paid 2,000 for my TRG-42 brand new. Granted, I spent 400 on a base and rings and 150 for an extra magazine and 150 for a brake.

rksimple
02-18-2008, 7:17 PM
You need to be under pretty ideal conditions to even consider making quality hits at 2K with 338LM.



100 degrees, 5000 ft elevation, no wind...:D

ar15barrels
02-18-2008, 10:53 PM
100 degrees, 5000 ft elevation, no wind...:D

In a vacum.

thmpr
02-18-2008, 10:58 PM
Very nice!!!! Hopefully one day I will have a 338 Lapua...:D

C.G.
02-18-2008, 11:03 PM
Very nice!!!! Hopefully one day I will have a bolt action 338 Lapua...:D

Fixed it for ya!:D

thmpr
02-18-2008, 11:05 PM
hahahahahaha ...good one. ssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh... Need to keep a low profile.:detective:

supersonic
02-19-2008, 12:07 AM
.

Also, how much was this rifle? I paid 2,000 for my TRG-42 brand new. Granted, I spent 400 on a base and rings and 150 for an extra magazine and 150 for a brake.

The MSRP on the AR30 is $1755. ($1-1.7k less than the Sako), plus it COMES with all the extras. Plus, the muzzle brake is the most highly effective in the business, so that's what completely sold me on it. If you paid $2k for a TRG42 .338, I hope you RAN out with it when you picked it up! Where did you buy it??? That dealer had to have lost moneY on that one!!!!! those things MSRP for $2775-3400!!!!!!!:eek:

supersonic
02-20-2008, 9:52 AM
In a vacum.

That's disgusting!!!!!!!!!:p

Toolbox X
02-20-2008, 10:12 AM
$2000 for a Sako TRG-42 is an incredibly low price. That is outstanding!

The TRG-42 is my top choice if I ever get that seriously into long distance shooting. I'm going to start with a good .308 and learn the art, decided if it is something I really enjoy, and then decide if I want to spend $5000-$7000 on the rifle.

If I were in the market for a TRG-42 this is the one I would buy. Wow is this a deal.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=92676810

supersonic
02-22-2008, 10:49 AM
$2000 for a Sako TRG-42 is an incredibly low price. That is outstanding!

The TRG-42 is my top choice if I ever get that seriously into long distance shooting. I'm going to start with a good .308 and learn the art, decided if it is something I really enjoy, and then decide if I want to spend $5000-$7000 on the rifle.

If I were in the market for a TRG-42 this is the one I would buy. Wow is this a deal.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=92676810

You might want to come up to S.V.S.C. and fire some rounds out of my AR-30 when/if you get to that point. You might be very surprised. PLUS, you'll have WELL over $1500 left over to spend on the type of glass that I did that would have gone towards a rifle of the same caliber with MUCH more felt recoil!!:D p.s.:$580 for a friggin' BIPOD?!?!:nuts:

Toolbox X
02-22-2008, 11:08 AM
C'mon, that's a bargain. The folding stock is $2,250 by itself.

http://www.impactguns.com/store/STRFSG.html

GenLee
02-22-2008, 12:08 PM
Sweet

draconianruler
02-22-2008, 12:56 PM
If I were in the market for a TRG-42 this is the one I would buy. Wow is this a deal.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=92676810

WOW, that one is NICE.

How does the 338 Lapua compare with a 300 win mag in terms of long distance shooting?

rksimple
02-22-2008, 2:34 PM
How does the 338 Lapua compare with a 300 win mag in terms of long distance shooting?

Like a 300 winmag would compare to a 308, and then some.

5150socal
03-01-2008, 8:19 PM
After reading this thread, I decided to a little reasearch online. I have got to tell you that the more I read about this rifle, the more I liked it. Now I am completely absorbed with the thought of getting one.
I contacted Armalite, only to find out that it is on backorder due to vendor issues last year. Anyway, if I order one now, I will not see it until September or October of this year.
Not to be dismayed, I went ahead and contacted a FFL Dealer here in my area. (Thanks to the FFL sticky thread you have here on the forum it made finding one easy). And, I got the ball rolling.
I called him and also forwarded the dealer all pertinent info as well as the contacts name at Armalite sales.
I have decided to go for the .338LM :eek: In spite of the $$$ big dollar cost of ammo.
Now, Let the wait begin... :D
I want to thank Supersonic for starting this thread and helping me decide what firearm to purchase next!

supersonic
03-11-2008, 12:23 AM
After reading this thread, I decided to a little reasearch online. I have got to tell you that the more I read about this rifle, the more I liked it. Now I am completely absorbed with the thought of getting one.
I contacted Armalite, only to find out that it is on backorder due to vendor issues last year. Anyway, if I order one now, I will not see it until September or October of this year.
Not to be dismayed, I went ahead and contacted a FFL Dealer here in my area. (Thanks to the FFL sticky thread you have here on the forum it made finding one easy). And, I got the ball rolling.
I called him and also forwarded the dealer all pertinent info as well as the contacts name at Armalite sales.
I have decided to go for the .338LM :eek: In spite of the $$$ big dollar cost of ammo.
Now, Let the wait begin... :D
I want to thank Supersonic for starting this thread and helping me decide what firearm to purchase next!

Thanks for the "HELL YEAH", I appreciate it. Yeah, it's going to completely S U C K waiting (I KNOW, please believe!!!), but that's nothing compared to the feeling of actually holding YOURS in YOUR hands when it DOES come in!!:D OOOHH, and then carefully mounting a sweet piece of optic oh, so gently.........................I almost had to change my drawers!:p
Scott

duenor
03-11-2008, 12:30 AM
I was VERY excited about this gun, esp after the SGN article.

Then I discovered that a box of 20 is $95 at Midway. Yikes.

ar15barrels
03-11-2008, 12:48 AM
Then I discovered that a box of 20 is $95 at Midway. Yikes.

Gots to pay to play. ;)
It's obviously cheaper to reload.

supersonic
03-11-2008, 5:53 AM
Yeah, I bought 1 box of the "real stuff" (Lapua) , and the rest was all in brass / bullets / powder. Once you handload for this caliber, it gets to be just under $1/round (or "per pull of the trigger") - however you want to look at it. Superior military/sniper & big game hunting round, though!!! (Ballistically similar to the .340 Weatherby Magnum)

Cali-V
04-17-2008, 10:10 PM
Range Report... Range Report...

Jicko
04-17-2008, 10:15 PM
With how expensive it is to feed, I wouldn't even bother pulling the trigger under 1k. Thats an ELR rifle from the get-go. Are you using 250's or 300's?

You got to practice to make it "count".... or else... it is just a noise maker!

rksimple
04-17-2008, 10:31 PM
You got to practice to make it "count".... or else... it is just a noise maker!


Yep, just practice from 1k and beyond. Waste barrel life on something else for under 1k.

C.G.
04-17-2008, 10:35 PM
Yep, just practice from 1k and beyond. Waste barrel life on something else for under 1k.

True, but that is also why I don't shoot my Ferret .338LM too often, not too many places 1k or more.

rksimple
04-17-2008, 10:43 PM
True, but that is also why I don't shoot my Ferret .338LM too often, not too many places 1k or more.

Come on down! I'll get you to 2k if you want. We have quite a bit of desert thisaway.

C.G.
04-17-2008, 10:48 PM
Come on down! I'll get you to 2k if you want. We have quite a bit of desert thisaway.

That would be great, but you may be too far from me. What vicinity are you?

rksimple
04-17-2008, 10:55 PM
Tehachapi. Wide open spaces.

knucklehead 61
04-17-2008, 11:12 PM
i have an ar-30 in cost effective :D .300 win mag. it replaced my .308 rem 700 pss as my favorite boom stick. you are gonna' love shooting your new cannon. .338 lapua is a lot meaner than my little win mag!
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g251/knucklehead_61/guns/DSCN3554_edited.jpg

C.G.
04-18-2008, 1:40 AM
Tehachapi. Wide open spaces.


A bit far away from me, but thank you for the offer.:)

ricknadine1111
04-18-2008, 8:34 AM
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn241/bellyscraper/LARRY.jpg
WHERED IT GO !, IT'S ONLY A LITTLE LEAD.LETER SEE UP 40 CLICKS AND LEFT 20 CLICKS, OH DARN I DUNO WHERE IT IS.