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emsricher
12-24-2013, 8:02 AM
I am buying a bolt action just for pig hunts.
What is the best over all caliber. These pigs are 200-800 lbs.
I will be shooting them from 100-200 yards.

DannyInSoCal
12-24-2013, 8:04 AM
308/30-06 will get the job done.

IBT "I killed a 1,000 hog with a 22LR" crowd

kauaibuilt
12-24-2013, 8:07 AM
Ive personally seen .223/5.56, 30-30, and 7.62x39 do the job from about 150yds and in. Ive also done dog and knife only hunts....

Garyson1311
12-24-2013, 8:13 AM
30-06 imo.

Extremely versatile cartridge, will certainly send the mail as far as you need to send it, and if your gun store only has a few calibers of rifle ammo in stock, I would bet that 30-06 would be one of them.

Bangzoom
12-24-2013, 8:18 AM
If i had to hunt hog with the rifles i own i would go with the 30 30 or the sks and i do have bigger and smaller calibers

if i could never get close then a 308 or my K31

dskit
12-24-2013, 8:19 AM
Anything that can send a bullet over 140 grains over 2700 FPS should do the trick. Bigger bullets at that range would be more fun, though.

emsricher
12-24-2013, 8:21 AM
I was thinking of a 30 06 for that very reason. That ammo I have seen on shelves every where. Your right.
As far as knives and dogs... It is not legal in California...
I think I am on Cal guns Site.
30 06 it is! Thanks for the fast reply

Gene1986
12-24-2013, 8:21 AM
.50 ae

Shasta Frog
12-24-2013, 8:29 AM
What about 7.62x54R? Or is that no good?

MongooseV8
12-24-2013, 8:42 AM
All great choices above. I will throw my hat in for the 45-70. Has a ton of energy and a 0.458" hole.

fizux
12-24-2013, 8:45 AM
Speaking of .458 holes, how 'bout .458 SOCOM?

zfields
12-24-2013, 8:51 AM
Speaking of .458 holes, how 'bout .458 SOCOM?

Most the loads I have seen are basically dumbed down 45/70.

WHITE MAMBA
12-24-2013, 8:53 AM
I would suggest a rem 700 .308. Great ammo selection and a easy rifle to sell if you decide to try something later.

Ninask
12-24-2013, 9:55 AM
Pigs can be tough
same gun you would normally hunt med to lg deer
243 on up in my book

bob7122
12-24-2013, 10:02 AM
i use and recommend .223,7.62x39, and 7.62x54r.
for .223 i aim for the head.

POLICESTATE
12-24-2013, 10:15 AM
Like a boss:

http://www.sthubertsrangers.org/Richard%20Boar.jpg

Capybara
12-24-2013, 10:26 AM
Like a boss:

http://www.sthubertsrangers.org/Richard%20Boar.jpg

Damn! Now that's hunting.

Oliver_Charles
12-24-2013, 10:47 AM
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golfish
12-24-2013, 10:59 AM
Has anybody used a .357 lever gun for hogs?

kauaibuilt
12-24-2013, 11:01 AM
I was thinking of a 30 06 for that very reason. That ammo I have seen on shelves every where. Your right.
As far as knives and dogs... It is not legal in California...
I think I am on Cal guns Site.
I too have dropped pigs with a 22lr but not at 200yards and the pig was under 150lbs. 30 06 it is! Thanks for the fast reply

Check the screen name. Born and raised in HI - very legal to hunt with a dog and knife.

Haven't had the opportunity to hunt in CA so I don't know the laws. Was just putting it out there since so many people think the only way to bring a hog down is with a .308 or bigger round.


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toby
12-24-2013, 11:03 AM
243 and up.

jvpark
12-24-2013, 11:18 AM
Like a boss:

http://www.sthubertsrangers.org/Richard%20Boar.jpg


Trying to figure out who is Prouder... the guy or the dog?

Quiet
12-24-2013, 11:51 AM
I've used 7.62x39mm and .303British for pigs. Kinda want to build a .300Blackout for pig use.

Friends have used 5.56x45mm/.223, .243Winchester, 6.8x43mm, .300Blackout, 7.62x39mm, 30-30, 7.62x51mm/.308, .30-06, .458Socom and .45/70.

Quiet
12-24-2013, 12:03 PM
Haven't had the opportunity to hunt in CA so I don't know the laws.

For pig hunting in CA...

Need a hunting license and a wild pig tag.

Pigs are in season all year round and there is no bag limit on them.

Pigs can be taken using:
Centerfire rifle
Blackpowder rifle/musket
Centerfire handgun with minimum 4" barrel length
Shotgun
Bow
Crossbow

Germz
12-24-2013, 12:28 PM
A vendor at a gunshow I went to said they have helicopter rentals in Texas that fly over pigs to shoot and most people use 300 blackout.

emsricher
12-24-2013, 12:29 PM
Any of you know of any one selling a used but functional 30 06.
Willing to drive any where in Southern California before 12-31-2013,

POLICESTATE
12-24-2013, 1:02 PM
Trying to figure out who is Prouder... the guy or the dog?

Well the dog isn't wearing a silly, floppy hat so I'm going with the dog.

vincewarde
12-24-2013, 1:12 PM
California DFG states that "pigs are harder to kill than deer, but easier to kill than Elk" - then they get to the heart of the question: How big a pig are you going after? Pigs can weigh from 50-350+ pounds.

If you are going after smaller pigs (less than 90lbs), something as small as a .243, a 7.62x39 or a .30-30 will do. Larger pigs require something larger - such as a .270 or better. Think something you would use on Elk. .308, .30-06, 7.62x54r would all be fine - as would anything bigger.

California DFG publishes a guide to hunting pigs (https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=23231) in which they rate many cartridges. You might want to check it out.

razr
12-24-2013, 1:49 PM
Dont shoot em with anything less than 308, 270 or 30-06.

emsricher
12-24-2013, 2:15 PM
My problem is with the pigs that are 200-800 lbs, my brother in law took a 804lb ER the day before thanksgiving with a 338 Lapua. I have shot at them with my 5.56 AR from 125 yards... I hit them but they run off and die.
And I didn't want to spend the money on a 338. That is why I started this thread!
Thank you to all.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

Kestryll
12-24-2013, 3:17 PM
Now that the bickering is gone let's keep it civil.

CK_32
12-24-2013, 3:22 PM
I would get a semi auto if you can.

I've never hunted anything before but have seen videos of those things taking a bullet and going for another 10 min, and at the same time I've seen them mess people up. Those 2 together is a bad combo. Again if legal I'd look into a big caliber semi for that just in case. I wouldn't not want to have to manual cycle with one of them pissed off with you in their sights.

acpbrain
12-24-2013, 3:30 PM
A vendor at a gunshow I went to said they have helicopter rentals in Texas that fly over pigs to shoot and most people use 300 blackout.
I just saw Pigman shooting from a helicopter using an AR style 12 gauge with buckshot & he was smoking them from about 40 yards. good times!

toby
12-24-2013, 3:33 PM
800lb pigs? lets see-em...

ElvenSoul
12-24-2013, 3:35 PM
Has anybody used a .357 lever gun for hogs?

When S&W first put out the .357 they hired a pro hunter to kill every type of game animal with the standard 6" revolver. At the S&W Headquarters they have a mounted Kodiak Bear that was killed at 17yds with a single .357 round.

CaliNative
12-24-2013, 3:40 PM
I personally use a 450 Bushmaster but ammo is not easy to come by. But I would use anything 308 or larger other wise they will run off and die and it will be very hard to find blood to track unless you punch a good hole in them.


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TMB 1
12-24-2013, 3:58 PM
I would get a semi auto if you can.

I've never hunted anything before but have seen videos of those things taking a bullet and going for another 10 min, and at the same time I've seen them mess people up. Those 2 together is a bad combo. Again if legal I'd look into a big caliber semi for that just in case. I wouldn't not want to have to manual cycle with one of them pissed off with you in their sights.

Yep! Something like a Remington Model 8 in 35 Remington would be perfect!

SOAR79
12-24-2013, 4:14 PM
30-30

Fjold
12-24-2013, 4:30 PM
If I'm shooting any wild animals that weigh 800 Lbs it's going to be with my 375 H&H or my 458 Win Mag.

CSACANNONEER
12-24-2013, 4:39 PM
308/30-06 will get the job done.

IBT "I killed a 1,000 hog with a 22LR" crowd

Yea, me too. Who needs something that big to drop a pig. Everyone knows that a .17 cal air rifle is all you need to drop a 250lb pig in it's tracks.

watch?v=ugyO7dcF1n8

Bubba_Leon
12-24-2013, 5:28 PM
I use a Savage Hog Hunter in 308, a lot of rifle for the money.
Just cooked up some tasty backstrap on the 21st from a recent hunt up north.

NRAhighpowershooter
12-24-2013, 5:33 PM
big pigs???

nothing less than: :-)
http://rs221.pbsrc.com/albums/dd88/highpowershooter/Miscalanious%20Stuff/16inchupper_zps2a0efdb9.jpg~c200

ElvenSoul
12-24-2013, 5:41 PM
Who makes that double barrel .45-70?

Fjold
12-24-2013, 6:10 PM
Who makes that double barrel .45-70?

Baikal, I have one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/Guns/Baikaldouble.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Fjold/media/Guns/Baikaldouble.jpg.html)

Fjold
12-24-2013, 6:13 PM
My problem is with the pigs that are 200-800 lbs, my brother in law took a 804lb ER the day before thanksgiving with a 338 Lapua. I have shot at them with my 5.56 AR from 125 yards... I hit them but they run off and die.
And I didn't want to spend the money on a 338. That is why I started this thread!
Thank you to all.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

The State record for hogs is around 625 Lbs but there was one submitted at 733 Lbs last year but it hasn't been confirmed yet.

Your brother shot one last month bigger than the CA state record?

BisDak
12-24-2013, 6:25 PM
Baikal, I have one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/Guns/Baikaldouble.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Fjold/media/Guns/Baikaldouble.jpg.html)

Frank,

More info on the gun please. Price, etc... Website maybe?

Baikals aren't too tough on the pocket right?

I want one. Thanks.


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Ronin2
12-24-2013, 7:03 PM
.308 bolt action.....

hambam105
12-24-2013, 8:10 PM
If it’s good enough for Iraq and Afghanistan it’s should be good enough for CONUS PORKSTER, .338 Lapua Magnum.

socom2shooter
12-24-2013, 9:30 PM
I have killed pigs with a 243 and a 300wsm. Also with a 40s&w and a 45 acp but handguns only used in emergency/ self defense. Its about shot placement on those things. Some are meaner than others

Timberwolf
12-24-2013, 9:35 PM
depending on where I hunt . . . . 308 for open terrain and 30-30 for brushy areas.

YZINGERR
12-24-2013, 9:45 PM
My vote is for .308. Thats what I use.
.243, 30-30, 30-06, .300, 7.62x39/54 are all very capable rounds

RAMCHARGER
12-26-2013, 9:15 AM
I've used 7.62x39mm and .303British for pigs. Kinda want to build a .300Blackout for pig use.

Friends have used 5.56x45mm/.223, .243Winchester, 6.8x43mm, .300Blackout, 7.62x39mm, 30-30, 7.62x51mm/.308, .30-06, .458Socom and .45/70.

.303 British is what I used untill the lead ban, since the spot I hunted is in the "condor lead free zone". Havent hunted piggies too often since then. Modern rifles take the fun out of it :(
Dad used a 7mm mauser.

drunktank
12-26-2013, 9:24 AM
Baikal, I have one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/Guns/Baikaldouble.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Fjold/media/Guns/Baikaldouble.jpg.html)

I know what to ask Santa for next year :)


Although shot placement is key, I'd say at least a .243win. If you have a 5.56 and come up on a large pig and/.or far distance, you might not have enough energy for a "good" shot. My happy medium is my .270win Savage. Doesn't destroy too much meat and I prefer it's trajectory over a -.06 but it's just personal preference. Gonna put if for sale, but will ended up with another!

TRAP55
12-26-2013, 9:37 AM
The State record for hogs is around 625 Lbs but there was one submitted at 733 Lbs last year but it hasn't been confirmed yet.

Your brother shot one last month bigger than the CA state record?
Fjold, I've seen several, that were well over 700lbs. Some of those Russian/feral crossbreeds in the Los Padres area look like black VW Beetles with tusks.
I was with a buddy at Island Mountain outside Garberville in the early 70's, when he shot a sow that weighed just over 700lbs field dressed. God as my witness, he killed it with one pure luck shot with a .22!:)
The day before, his dad shot a 150 boar between the eyes at 40yrds with a .44mag. Pat was straddling it to cut it's throat. Soon as he did, it came too from being knocked out. Picture Jethro Bodine riding a stuck bleeding pizzed off hog. We still laugh about it.
We never submitted any for a record, never occurred to us. They got butchered and ate.

emsricher
12-26-2013, 5:26 PM
Thank you to all and your responses, I bought a Ruger All American 30 06. Very nice bolt and pad. It also comes with a pre mounted rail and swivels.
Out the door at BPS $461. Brian compared it with higher end guns. The safety placement is right where it should be.
Ill p/u on 1-6-2014. Pig hunt on the 26. Ill take pics and report on the results of the All American.
Thanks Cal Guns!

emsricher
12-26-2013, 6:48 PM
http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae248/Britni_Richer/1521685_569404226473307_1897008770_n_zpsd91e8644.j pg

Kurt is 6'6" and 330lbs. His kids are big as well.

TRAP55
12-26-2013, 9:19 PM
http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae248/Britni_Richer/1521685_569404226473307_1897008770_n_zpsd91e8644.j pg

Kurt is 6'6" and 330lbs. His kids are big as well.
Now that's a hog! Where was that taken?
What ever caliber you have, it never seems enough when one of those comes after you. Rifle, big bore handgun, and a cell phone....cause there ain't any pay phones up in a tree.;)

TRAP55
12-26-2013, 9:27 PM
Graphic pics, but it'll give you a better idea for shot placement.
http://www.texasboars.com/anatomy.html

mikestesting
12-26-2013, 9:43 PM
No one mentioned .257 Roberts. Great round.

taperxz
12-26-2013, 10:10 PM
http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae248/Britni_Richer/1521685_569404226473307_1897008770_n_zpsd91e8644.j pg

Kurt is 6'6" and 330lbs. His kids are big as well.

That pic is a trick pic. Notice how far back the people are from the hog (which makes the hog look so much bigger)

Thats a nice hog but i'm guessing in the 450 range. (maybe)

AK5.56
12-27-2013, 12:10 AM
That pic is a trick pic. Notice how far back the people are from the hog (which makes the hog look so much bigger)

Thats a nice hog but i'm guessing in the 450 range. (maybe)

It says 330lbs...

LoSJoe
12-27-2013, 5:46 PM
I have been hunting wild hog in CA since the mid 80s. Never seen anything over 400 lbs myself. Think I'd lose my mind if I saw anything 800 lbs.

Seen a few recommend 7.62x54r....for any pig over 100 lbs best is a 180 grain soft point at 200 yards or less. Otherwise it's just gonna be along walk in the brush to find where it went to die.

150s will work if your shot placement is spot on. Best shot is just behind the shoulder quarting away from you so you don't get that big band of cartilage that goes shoulder to shoulder and around the chest. It can be up to an inch or more thick. Have seen hogs shot at 30 yards and had .44 mag rounds pulled out of that cartilage that didn't penetrate.

Oh yea, they can run about 30 miles per hour...for a mile or more so...you ain't gonna be outrunning one you ticked off.

happy hunting.

tpuig
12-27-2013, 5:50 PM
As for double rifles, Cabelas has a line of Sabatti. Can't vouch for the quality because I've never shot one, but they seem to fit the hand well and look decent.

http://www.cabelas.com/category/Sabatti-Double-Rifles/107030880.uts

taperxz
12-27-2013, 6:12 PM
It says 330lbs...

No it doesn't. It says his friend Kurt is 330 lbs.

You might want to take another look

Ronin2
12-27-2013, 6:19 PM
I have been hunting wild hog in CA since the mid 80s. Never seen anything over 400 lbs myself. Think I'd lose my mind if I saw anything 800 lbs.

Run away, Run away....... :eek:

lewdogg21
12-27-2013, 9:34 PM
800 pound wild California hog? Love to see the pics. All the elk I've shot have been smaller than that.

That pic above is not an 800 pound hog imo. It's the old Roland Martin picture trick.

emsricher
12-28-2013, 9:39 AM
No, Kurt is 330 lbs and the kids were leaning on the pig when I took the picture. I promise you this is no trick photography. I am not that smart, after we 1/8th it all of the pig got bagged. We took turns weighing the 10 bags and it all weighed 804 lbs. burlap bags are not that heavy.

emsricher
12-28-2013, 9:53 AM
Did not know there were recorded records for pigs. To be honest I didn't thi k any one cared this much about a nuisance animal. I would think that avid hunters would want the recognition.
As for us... Not interested in public exposure or recognition. I'm sure most people would.
For instance I hunt underwater mostly. I have caught many 15-25lb lobsters. When I do I seldom take a picture or contact newspaper. Unlike the gentleman that caught a 18 lb 2 weeks ago at HB pier. Look at all the flack he got for not releasing it. No thanks.
I am not synicle or a liar. Just a old guy who loves the outdoors!
Happy New Year!
Thank you Cal Guns for all that you do to preserve our 2 amendment!

SMarquez
12-29-2013, 9:23 PM
I want to try a pig hunt with my M1. I'm thinking 180 gr solids at about 2700 should do it. That will be my excuse to get an adjustable gas plug.
For the record I have .223, .243, .257, 6.5 x 55, 30-30, .308, 280 Remington and a bolt 30-06. My M1 is my only semi auto rifle.

ar15barrels
12-29-2013, 10:20 PM
My pig gun:

http://700barrels.com/gfx/788.jpg

18.5" barreled 308.
1-3x scope which I leave turned down to 1x magnification most of the time.

AK5.56
12-29-2013, 11:22 PM
No it doesn't. It says his friend Kurt is 330 lbs.

You might want to take another look

Oh gotchya. I thought Kurt was the Hog:oops:

LoSJoe
12-29-2013, 11:23 PM
I want to try a pig hunt with my M1. I'm thinking 180 gr solids at about 2700 should do it. That will be my excuse to get an adjustable gas plug.
For the record I have .223, .243, .257, 6.5 x 55, 30-30, .308, 280 Remington and a bolt 30-06. My M1 is my only semi auto rifle.

solids might be a mistake on a good size hog. Solids don't expand much if at all. You definately want an expanding round on a hog. Hydrostatic shock is what really puts them down in their tracks. Use a solid you might just get a pass through and chase him the rest of the day and not find him.

Divernhunter
12-30-2013, 9:09 AM
Smarquez---Solids are illegal to hunt with. They also do not expand.
A Barnes/Hornady GMX/Nosler E-Tip are not considered solids as they expand.
Why the need to hunt with a semi-auto(M1Garand)? It will work, with expanding bullets, but one of the larger bolt actions( not the 223/243) would be better to hunt with.
Have you ever hunted before?
Do you have a hunting lic?
Plese check the hunting regulations before you hunt. That might save you from an expensive run in with Fish and Game.

ElvenSoul
12-30-2013, 9:16 AM
Not a lot of talk on CG og .280 Ackley

Daze
12-30-2013, 10:28 AM
I have not personally hunted pigs with it yet, but as I was assembling my 6.8SPC, I spent a good amount of time talking with quite a few hunters on the Hog forums that have gone to the 6.8SPC for hogs.

MapleSyrupSmuggler
12-30-2013, 10:58 AM
Would not recommend for nubs but I have been killing pigs with 223 (flame suit on). I posted my last one on JHO and he was somewhere between 150-175 lbs and it was a one shot drop:

http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/showthread.php/241160-Boar-Down-5-25-%28FHL%29

2shotjoe
12-30-2013, 11:02 AM
My pig gun:

http://700barrels.com/gfx/788.jpg

18.5" barreled 308.
1-3x scope which I leave turned down to 1x magnification most of the time.

I want another 308 bolt gun now, damn you. :P

Bruce wished he owned a Droid RAZR.

Mstnpete
12-30-2013, 11:27 AM
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f245/amgguy/9b40a60b-7000-4cc8-b725-30b0e37cb917_zpsac7ae44b.jpg

I like using 3 rifles for pig hunts. The 250lb pig on the picture was taken with
a Remington 700 VTR .308 rifle. I also have a Tikke t3 lite in 308 and a Marlin 336 in 30-30 that I use for pig hunts. And for side arm, I like using Glock 20 in 10mm. My next rifle I am considering is a Sako Finnlight 85 in 300Winmag for some Alaska big game hunts.

Goop
12-30-2013, 12:24 PM
Meh, 223 was never really designed as a hunting round. If you look into its history you will see it was originally developed and designed for the m16 back in the 60s. I mean i guess anything can get the trick done but i would want something with a bit more oomph in case you come across a big one.

I'd probably go with lever action carbines at 357mag ,44mag or 30-30. Longer shots i'd want 270 or 308, basically deer caliber stuff.

rm1911
12-30-2013, 1:31 PM
Not a lot of talk on CG og .280 Ackley


Problem with a round like that for most hunter people is that there's not a lot of factory ammo nor a good selection of factory ammo. And the marginal advantage of a unique round, no matter how awesome it is, is irrelevant. At 200-300 yds, it simply will not matter one iota.

So it'll be too expensive and difficult to shoot. It's really a reloaders cartridge. Hunters should practice and shoot more than a box a year.

I know it's droll, commonplace, and perhaps mundane, but the 30-06 is still the best overall choice. I'd argue that for any new hunter (and pretty much any hunter for that matter) there really is only one choice: '06. There's nothing it can't do as well as any other round and it's everywhere.

Sure the 270 is everything the '06 is. As is the 7mag. Fine. And both are great choices too. But I just think that the case has been made for 100+ years.

MapleSyrupSmuggler
12-30-2013, 2:28 PM
Run away, Run away....... :eek:

Lol 800 lbs yea right. I would definitely run.:95:

ElvenSoul
12-30-2013, 3:45 PM
Problem with a round like that for most hunter people is that there's not a lot of factory ammo nor a good selection of factory ammo. And the marginal advantage of a unique round, no matter how awesome it is, is irrelevant. At 200-300 yds, it simply will not matter one iota.

So it'll be too expensive and difficult to shoot. It's really a reloaders cartridge. Hunters should practice and shoot more than a box a year.

I know it's droll, commonplace, and perhaps mundane, but the 30-06 is still the best overall choice. I'd argue that for any new hunter (and pretty much any hunter for that matter) there really is only one choice: '06. There's nothing it can't do as well as any other round and it's everywhere.

Sure the 270 is everything the '06 is. As is the 7mag. Fine. And both are great choices too. But I just think that the case has been made for 100+ years.

Notting wrong with the 06'

Of course I did have Shuff change one of my Garands over to 35whelen!

WAMO556
12-30-2013, 4:05 PM
Like a boss:

http://www.sthubertsrangers.org/Richard%20Boar.jpg

That dog IS smiling. Grinning from ear to ear! Thumbs up!

sharkmansam
12-30-2013, 5:15 PM
That dog IS smiling. Grinning from ear to ear! Thumbs up!

i was going to say .454 casual but like the dog spear thing better ,yeap like a boss

calshipbuilder
12-31-2013, 12:22 AM
.308 Win - but...

If I knew I would never take a shot past 200, I'd run a .358 winchester

California Sportsman
01-01-2014, 12:30 AM
I have been hunting hogs since I was a kid. I would say that in CA you would want to only use a 308 and up for clean one shot kills.

emsricher
01-02-2014, 4:48 PM
What magnification of scope should I use for 100-150yards max shot?
Any suggestions for under$170?
I realize you get what you pay for "

NapaCountyShooter
01-02-2014, 5:19 PM
What magnification of scope should I use for 100-150yards max shot?
Any suggestions for under$170?
I realize you get what you pay for "

Good ol' 3-9, Bushnell and Nikon offer some great options.

ElvenSoul
01-02-2014, 5:24 PM
Scope choice

2-7
1-4
Red dot with fold away magnifier

ar15barrels
01-02-2014, 5:45 PM
What magnification of scope should I use for 100-150yards max shot?
Any suggestions for under$170?
I realize you get what you pay for "


The Weaver 1x-3x on my rifle above is around $160 or so.
It's a perfect pig scope.

Norsemen308
01-02-2014, 7:08 PM
Here's my thought process by the gun once, hunt everything! For that grab a 300 win mag. It will do anything a 30.06, 270 or a .308 will do, only better. Pigs r easier to kill if u know what ur doing. This ain't a whitetail, a gut shot on a pig is a terrible ordeal, think of them as Sherman tanks with floppy ears. A well shot sportsman with a shot placed behind the eye in a quartering shot will drop any hog along with a neck shot below the ears.

When I got a .450 bushmaster the game changed on pure penetration. 250 grains doesn't stop easily.

A 300 win mag will shoot flatter, faster, have more kinetic energy on impact and have more ammo readily available than any other cartridge mentioned

I can't get 30.06 at Walmart but they always have 300 win mag

fiveofnine
01-02-2014, 7:11 PM
Any one used 12 gauge slugs?

Norsemen308
01-02-2014, 7:15 PM
Any one used 12 gauge slugs?

They do the job! I haven't personally but my uncle swears by them

Nick Adams
01-02-2014, 9:27 PM
When S&W first put out the .357 they hired a pro hunter to kill every type of game animal with the standard 6" revolver. At the S&W Headquarters they have a mounted Kodiak Bear that was killed at 17yds with a single .357 round.

The lead hunting ban renders the .357 a bit less lethal, though still a decent choice. My pig gun is pump action 30 06 carbine. Never seen an 800 lb pig outside of a pen, but every one I've hit with the 30 06 was dead right there. 12 gauge slugs would be more than up for the job but they beat the piss out of you.

scott fisher
01-03-2014, 2:22 AM
My go to guns for pig hunting are my 450 Marlin or my 45-70 Marlin.

NulodPBall
01-03-2014, 5:42 AM
Thank you to all and your responses, I bought a Ruger All American 30 06. Very nice bolt and pad. It also comes with a pre mounted rail and swivels.
Out the door at BPS $461. Brian compared it with higher end guns. The safety placement is right where it should be.
Ill p/u on 1-6-2014. Pig hunt on the 26. Ill take pics and report on the results of the All American.
Thanks Cal Guns!

Nice purchase...a friend of mine was thinking of that gun but in a different caliber for a different reason...then he went with a fun purchase and got a lever action .357...why? He told me but I still don't understand but it was a "fun" gun...that's all I need to know.

I don't think I saw a post yet about your hunt :)

lewdogg21
01-03-2014, 7:02 AM
For those not familiar. Some areas in CA are shotgun only (FHL has shotgun only zones).

The downside to shotguns is the obvious range limitation. Also finding non-lead slugs in the condor zone that group well out of your shotgun can potentially be challenging.

Trapper
01-03-2014, 7:38 AM
Any one used 12 gauge slugs?

I've taken several deer and pigs with a Savage model 210 and Barnes slugs while hunting on military bases. My go to caliber for pigs is a 30-06 but I have taken them with everything from archery to muzzle loaders. Get close, wait for a clean shot and focus on shot placement.

mwunsch
01-06-2014, 7:59 PM
I typically use my .300 win mag. But I got a guided hunt this weekend and am going with the BAR 7 mag on this one. If I do my job, this will be my 8th pig this year. I love pork chops and haven't bought a store pork chop in almost a full year.

Pessimist
01-06-2014, 8:13 PM
I have two 30-30 lever guns (one Winchester, one Marlin) a two Remington Model 81s (300 Savage and 35 Remington), a Savage .270 and a Marlin 1895 in .450 Marlon. I would not hesitate to use any of them on pigs. Must admit to a bias towards big holes in nasty-tempered animals, so would probably gravitate to the Model 81 .35 Remington or the Marlin in .450 Marlin.

I know people who hunt pigs with their ARs in 5.56, but shot placement becomes a LOT more critical.

deckhandmike
01-07-2014, 10:34 AM
I used a .300 win mag and loved watching the pig fall DRT and roll down the hill. With copper it didn't damage much meat at all. Did turn the heart into jello though.

Whiterabbit
01-07-2014, 2:28 PM
that's too bad. With some onions and fish sauce the heart is really, really tasty.

YZINGERR
01-07-2014, 4:06 PM
im too much of a sissy to eat hearts. Had cow once, and it was too rich for me!

Whiterabbit
01-07-2014, 5:11 PM
then you MUST try this:

slice the heart as thin as you possibly can. right down to carpaccio thin if you have the knife skills. Soak in STRAIGHT fish sauce (I know, really weird, but it's Vietnamese, and it's delicious)

heat some oil in a wok or whatever you want to stir fry in. Toss in green onion sliced thin. When aromatic, toss in sliced yellow onion. When almost translucent, toss in garlic. When aromatic, toss in beef heart (drain all that fish sauce!!) and cook for a minute or two. Salt and pepper if needed (maybe a smidge of pepper, salt unlikely).

Takes 3 minutes to do while you are taking care of the meat, and makes for a lovely meat butchering snack.

Not too rich cause you are eating so little of it at each go.

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as soon as I read "straight fish sauce" I thought it was gonna be awful. It was perfect.

TMB 1
01-07-2014, 5:44 PM
I have two 30-30 lever guns (one Winchester, one Marlin) a two Remington Model 81s (300 Savage and 35 Remington), a Savage .270 and a Marlin 1895 in .450 Marlon. I would not hesitate to use any of them on pigs. Must admit to a bias towards big holes in nasty-tempered animals, so would probably gravitate to the Model 81 .35 Remington or the Marlin in .450 Marlin.

I know people who hunt pigs with their ARs in 5.56, but shot placement becomes a LOT more critical.

35 Remington is really good. Some one should make a bolt action chambered for it. I think it would make a good scout rifle or a hog hunter type rifle.

Pessimist
01-07-2014, 6:14 PM
Can't find any bolt guns currently being manufactured in .35 Remington, but there have been some made in the past. there is a Remington Model 600 in .35 Remington on Gun Broker right now. They are out there but you might have to spend some time looking.

socal147
01-07-2014, 6:26 PM
45/70
500 Magnum
300 RUM

HUTCH 7.62
01-07-2014, 6:31 PM
30-06, 45-70, 300 win mag are my favorites

TMB 1
01-07-2014, 6:37 PM
Can't find any bolt guns currently being manufactured in .35 Remington, but there have been some made in the past. there is a Remington Model 600 in .35 Remington on Gun Broker right now. They are out there but you might have to spend some time looking.

That's what I'm talking about. That would be the perfect bolt action hog rifle imo anyway.

RNE228
01-07-2014, 6:59 PM
got my only pig so far, with Savage 99 in 300 Savage. That is a great combo; nice cartridge(base for 308) in a solid handy lever action...

ar15barrels
01-07-2014, 7:27 PM
That's what I'm talking about. That would be the perfect bolt action hog rifle imo anyway.

The 375 Winchester in a Lever gun should also be good hog medicine.

America's Least Wanted
01-07-2014, 7:32 PM
338 Hog Hunter by Savage. Big bump up from 30-06.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=19663&mfg=Savage+Arms&mdl=All&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=338&fin=&sit=&zipcode=95014

Nice price, good reviews, comes with iron sights, threaded barrel, handy length. 338 should give you range, but 20" barrel still handy. Could be "scout" or urban anti-bodyarmor sniper.

Only down side is ammo cost even bigger bump up from 30-06, but if you ONLY gonna use for pigs, might as well get a gun CALLED a Hog Hunter.

YZINGERR
01-08-2014, 8:40 PM
then you MUST try this:

slice the heart as thin as you possibly can. right down to carpaccio thin if you have the knife skills. Soak in STRAIGHT fish sauce (I know, really weird, but it's Vietnamese, and it's delicious)

heat some oil in a wok or whatever you want to stir fry in. Toss in green onion sliced thin. When aromatic, toss in sliced yellow onion. When almost translucent, toss in garlic. When aromatic, toss in beef heart (drain all that fish sauce!!) and cook for a minute or two. Salt and pepper if needed (maybe a smidge of pepper, salt unlikely).

Takes 3 minutes to do while you are taking care of the meat, and makes for a lovely meat butchering snack.

Not too rich cause you are eating so little of it at each go.

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as soon as I read "straight fish sauce" I thought it was gonna be awful. It was perfect.
I will give that a try when I get a pig this year...that is if the heart isnt destroyed!

Whiterabbit
01-08-2014, 9:16 PM
Sometimes we just get lucky.

cocorador
01-09-2014, 7:05 AM
I've used a rifled shotgun barrel with sabot slugs, but that was a few years back. I have little ones now and have not hunted in 6 years or so. I use a regular 870 with a rifled barrel I bought from Cabelas and a Bushnell scope on top. Does about 3 inch group or less. As I've gotten older, I've become recoil sensitive and don't really shoot that anymore. If I do get to hunt in rifle country, I use a 308 with Barnes bullets and my handloads, brushy areas, I use an Encore handgun in 308 with a 10mm, full loads with Silvertips, as back up. Amazing what a muzzle brake can do for recoil. The Encore has reduced loads with a brake.

YZINGERR
01-09-2014, 8:19 AM
I've used a rifled shotgun barrel with sabot slugs, but that was a few years back. I have little ones now and have not hunted in 6 years or so. I use a regular 870 with a rifled barrel I bought from Cabelas and a Bushnell scope on top. Does about 3 inch group or less. As I've gotten older, I've become recoil sensitive and don't really shoot that anymore. If I do get to hunt in rifle country, I use a 308 with Barnes bullets and my handloads, brushy areas, I use an Encore handgun in 308 with a 10mm, full loads with Silvertips, as back up. Amazing what a muzzle brake can do for recoil. The Encore has reduced loads with a brake.

Little ones and 6 years? Sounds like a hunting buddy or two that is upon us!
My oldest is four and isnt ready....yet

mariley85
01-10-2014, 8:51 PM
Anything works. I killed a handful with a .30-06


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that guy
01-14-2014, 9:37 AM
Well the dog isn't wearing a silly, floppy hat so I'm going with the dog.

Normally I'd giggle about the tights and the hat too, but I'm not messing with that dude, even over the interwebs... looks like the techno-viking went hunting.

bigbossman
01-14-2014, 2:39 PM
Any one used 12 gauge slugs?

I've killed a couple with 20 gauge slugs out of rifled slug barrels.. One with a Federal round loaded with a Barnes saboted copper bullet..... excellent performer, and the pig died before it finished falling down.. Another with a Duplek...... got the job done, but not as accurate and made a mess with the expanding steel petals.

NordicDave
01-21-2014, 4:08 PM
What magnification of scope should I use for 100-150yards max shot?
Any suggestions for under$170?
I realize you get what you pay for "


Leupold makes a specific Hog reticle called "Pig Plex" and have a great scope the VX-HOG 1-4x20mm Riflescope. Opticsplanet has them for $229. This scope is unbelievably clear and crisp with it's Mark 4 lenses and coatings.
http://www.opticsplanet.com/leupold-vx-hog-1-4x20mm-riflescope-matte.html

http://cdn.gunsamerica.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/leupold-fire-dot-firedot-pig-plex-reticle.gif

-NordicDave

EmptyMags
01-22-2014, 12:34 AM
What about 7.62x54R? Or is that no good?

Works great.

Just be sure to use a quality hunting bullet rather than your surplus FMJs

boukca
01-22-2014, 12:47 AM
Tagged

Garandimal
01-22-2014, 6:45 AM
For BIG hogs...?

180-220 gr 30-06 out of an M1 Garand.




GR

robcoe
01-22-2014, 6:56 AM
.510dtc, might as well be sure.







Serious answer, .308/.30-06/.30-30, any of them should work just fine.

J.R.W.
01-22-2014, 7:47 AM
Havent got 2 shoot a pig yet but just got a marlin 45-70 i think thats gona do the job

smittty
01-22-2014, 9:37 PM
300 Blackout is getting popular in Texas and 223 is still very common there and here. Remington just released their 223 Hog Hammer ammunition so you there must be a demand for it.

I'll use 223, 357 mag carbine, 308 or 12 ga depending on the type of hunting.

Mentiroso
02-14-2014, 5:11 PM
25-06

jeffersonv
02-14-2014, 5:38 PM
Maybe someone else mentioned it and I didn't see it? Bullet construction plays a large part in determining caliber.

1970gmc
02-14-2014, 7:40 PM
I have seen pigs taken with all sorts of calibers.

My cousin's favorite is his Rem 700 in 243 which works great on most pigs we find in Monterey County.

My personal favorite is my Savage 270WSM that I have used with great effect on everything from little 120lb pigs all the way up to one that was over 450 lbs. At the same time, I have hit pigs in the spine right behind the head with the 270WSM, seen them go down, only to have them try to chase me as I get closer to collect and dress them.

I have seen 30-30 lever guns drop 250lbs pigs in their tracks, but I have also seen them fail to penetrate the cartilage plate on same 450lb boar mentioned above.

I have also seen (and by the way I do not condone this at all) my brother break down and kill a 160lb pig with a 17HMR and an excited miniature Australian Shepard because it was all he had and the pig was destroying one of our artichoke fields (FYI we had a depredation permit).

I guess the point in all of this is that pigs can be taken with many calibers. However, using even some of the larger calibers and good shot placement you can find yourself on the wrong end of an angry pig. So, hunt, have a good time, but be careful at the same time.

k1dude
02-14-2014, 8:01 PM
Phased plasma in the 40 watt range.

geaser
02-22-2014, 1:09 PM
45\70 govt. are fun

junior40er
02-22-2014, 1:12 PM
Did not read all the post but to answer the question of this thread I'm pretty sure they all use 9mm.

Jester3
02-22-2014, 4:17 PM
I would get a semi auto if you can.

I've never hunted anything before but have seen videos of those things taking a bullet and going for another 10 min, and at the same time I've seen them mess people up. Those 2 together is a bad combo. Again if legal I'd look into a big caliber semi for that just in case. I wouldn't not want to have to manual cycle with one of them pissed off with you in their sights.

.270 bolt. A p##### off adversary is the only way to hunt. Almost as much fun as an armed one, that's another story.

kauaibuilt
02-27-2014, 1:49 AM
Originally Posted by kauaibuilt
Haven't had the opportunity to hunt in CA so I don't know the laws.

For pig hunting in CA...

Need a hunting license and a wild pig tag.

Pigs are in season all year round and there is no bag limit on them.

Pigs can be taken using:
Centerfire rifle
Blackpowder rifle/musket
Centerfire handgun with minimum 4" barrel length
Shotgun
Bow
Crossbow

See, this is what Im used to... But pick-up, not home delivery.

http://www.kitv.com/image/view/-/24670452/medRes/1/-/maxh/460/maxw/620/-/boq4k7z/-/AINA-HAINA-FERAL-PIG-01-jpg.jpg
http://www.kitv.com/news/hawaii/photo-shows-feral-pig-in-aina-haina/24670636?hpt=us_bn10

KillZone45
02-27-2014, 3:15 AM
Ill be using my 308 gas gun.

toby
02-27-2014, 4:44 AM
They are just pigs not Dinosaurs. They are taken with everything from a 22 Hornet all the way up to a 50. Hell some idiots kill them with knives and spears.

Low Light
02-27-2014, 5:44 AM
Phased plasma in the 40 watt range.

Just what you see on the shelf, buddy.

Timbob55
02-27-2014, 6:24 AM
308/30-06 will get the job done.

IBT "I killed a 1,000 hog with a 22LR" crowd

So will 7mm Rem Mag.

advocatusdiaboli
03-05-2014, 10:26 AM
So will 7mm Rem Mag.

So will a .270 pushing a 130 gr or 140 gr or even 150 gr bullet which is my choice for all-around hunting.

lewdogg21
03-05-2014, 3:26 PM
Dear God... please let this thread die.

Thank you,
Billy

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advocatusdiaboli
03-05-2014, 3:32 PM
Dear God... please let this thread die.

Thank you,
Billy

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OH well, let's face it...this thread will die a lot slower than a hog hit by anything greater than .243 :43:

ar15barrels
03-05-2014, 4:07 PM
So will a .270 pushing a 130 gr or 140 gr or even 150 gr bullet which is my choice for all-around hunting.

Yes.
That is what you want.

NapalmCheese
03-05-2014, 4:18 PM
Dear God... please let this thread die.

The caliber debate is moot, since really, it's all about what backup sidearm your bringing. We all know that unless you shoot the pig in the head with a .338 LM or bigger it's going to find you and charge. What what sidearm is best? Sure .44 mag is good but you only get 6 bullets, seems like a septuple tap of .50AE would be more appropriate.

Rider1k
03-05-2014, 4:27 PM
A hog will fall to a well placed 22. Well placed is a matter of a shooters ability. Will a 22-250 kill a hog? 243? Yes!!! Are most hunters able to place a pristine shot under pressure? A larger caliber will help with a poor shot to a point. Given range and projectile weight, anything from a 30-30 thru a 375 h&h will be just fine. As a hunter you owe it to your prey to give it a swift clean death. Why mess with a smaller caliber?

advocatusdiaboli
03-05-2014, 4:32 PM
:DThe caliber debate is moot, since really, it's all about what backup sidearm your bringing. We all know that unless you shoot the pig in the head with a .338 LM or bigger it's going to find you and charge. What what sidearm is best? Sure .44 mag is good but you only get 6 bullets, seems like a septuple tap of .50AE would be more appropriate.


Everyone who knows anything knows that to really ensure you kill a hog you set up a kill box bounded by Claymores and have a SAW or M60 to cover it. And of course you call in mortar fire after wards but they still might live long enough to eat you and your children:D

kmolles
03-05-2014, 5:10 PM
I've killed pigs with 7mm Weatherby Mag, .300 Savage, .444 Marlin and my Ruger Super Redhawk in .44 Mag(if close). I enjoy using my Marlin .444 the best with a 265 gr. Soft Point, Flat Nose bullet.

peppermintman
03-08-2014, 6:49 AM
I've killed pigs with 7mm Weatherby Mag, .300 Savage, .444 Marlin and my Ruger Super Redhawk in .44 Mag(if close). I enjoy using my Marlin .444 the best with a 265 gr. Soft Point, Flat Nose bullet.

.444 Marlin will do the job, just dnt like the idea of the round jamming. Had one and thats all im gonna say about the Marlin.
Mosin with 180-200 gr. will knock them down and they aint gettin up.

Weather is improving so get ready to get one or two. Nice pic of the pig. You dont want shoot them a second time.

atakacorp
03-08-2014, 9:03 AM
As some people with hunting experience mentioned here, caliber is the secondary thing,SHOT PLACEMENT is a must, I saw hogs running away with 300 winmag in them and saw them drop in the spot from 5.45x39 . Pigs are tricky bastards , always on the move , when I hunt them at close(40-150 yards) range AK 47/SKS is perfect for me(some times they'll charge,so the semi is a plus), long shots i use several calibers(6.5X55SE,308,300win,762X54R)
as long as i am sure i can make a head shot at 200-300 yards(if you wound pig at these range,good luck looking for it:) ).
80 yards 5.45
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt287/atakacorp/Dogo%20Argentinos/IMG_0040_zpsbafa7e9b.jpg (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/atakacorp/media/Dogo%20Argentinos/IMG_0040_zpsbafa7e9b.jpg.html)
100+ yards , Saiga 7.62X39 4X POSP scope two head shots ,second was a lucky shot(or maybe I am just good:) )
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt287/atakacorp/SAIGANOV/IMG_0856_zps0e9d33e0.jpg (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/atakacorp/media/SAIGANOV/IMG_0856_zps0e9d33e0.jpg.html)

bigkyle72
03-08-2014, 9:08 AM
300 AAC!

tpfishnfool
03-08-2014, 10:07 AM
Marlin 30-30 has been my pig gun of choice for 30+ years. Short lever action is a big plus.

toby
03-08-2014, 10:45 AM
It all comes down to what type of terrain your hunting in.

EmptyMags
03-10-2014, 9:34 PM
Phased plasma in the 40 watt range.

Just what you see on the shelf, buddy.


Hah!

I think .338 federal is pretty neat on paper and because it's Federal's first own cartridge. If you're not a reloader .308 or maybe .300 Win Mag might be better choices.

I'd go with the Savage 'hog hunter' with those requirements OP.

advocatusdiaboli
03-12-2014, 2:49 AM
Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.

Hey, just what you see, Pal. (and fixed it for ya by adding the word "rifle".)

3006Daddy
03-13-2014, 7:35 AM
Wait 800 lb hogs? In Ca

2shotjoe
03-13-2014, 7:39 AM
Wait 800 lb hogs? In Ca

Sounds like a load of wild bacon. :D

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3006Daddy
03-13-2014, 12:53 PM
Sounds like a load of wild bacon. :D

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Wait I like Bacon lol I have never taken a pig but I get my tags every year holding out for that 800 pounder, hell I might start holding off for the 1000 pound sack Carnitas.

Sweden9
03-13-2014, 1:09 PM
And I guess the answer is .308-caliber AR-10. At least in North Carolina.
Hunter bags 500-pound wild boar you have to see to believe
'It takes your breath away for a second to realize how big this hog is,' hunting club owner says

https://news.yahoo.com/giant-hog-boar-hunter-caught-500-pounds-133815315.html

atakacorp
03-13-2014, 6:35 PM
And I guess the answer is .308-caliber AR-10. At least in North Carolina.
Hunter bags 500-pound wild boar you have to see to believe
'It takes your breath away for a second to realize how big this hog is,' hunting club owner says

https://news.yahoo.com/giant-hog-boar-hunter-caught-500-pounds-133815315.html

Yep he is a big boy, but man when guys will stop make thous 6 feat away pics :D
my daughter got 480LB hog few years back ,PSL ,150gr X54R ,lots of bacon !!
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt287/atakacorp/OXOTA_MAY/OxotaMay022.jpg (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/atakacorp/media/OXOTA_MAY/OxotaMay022.jpg.html)
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt287/atakacorp/OXOTA_MAY/OxotaMay030.jpg (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/atakacorp/media/OXOTA_MAY/OxotaMay030.jpg.html)

HKRick
03-13-2014, 6:54 PM
I don't hunt but it's my understanding that Copper ammo is required so that would play a role for me when selecting a Caliber and I would be leaning towards 30-06 or larger.

CSACANNONEER
03-13-2014, 7:15 PM
I don't hunt but it's my understanding that Copper ammo is required so that would play a role for me when selecting a Caliber and I would be leaning towards 30-06 or larger.

Depends on where you are hunting. Using your logic, any 30cal would be fine since, there is the largest selection of lead free bullets in .308 (not .310) out there.

Rider1k
03-13-2014, 8:08 PM
If a 800 lb hog exists anywhere it's not in Ca!.

k1dude
03-13-2014, 8:26 PM
If a 800 lb hog exists anywhere it's not in Ca!.

An 800 pounder was taken in Georgia.

Tarn_Helm
03-13-2014, 8:49 PM
308/30-06 will get the job done.

IBT "I killed a 1,000 hog with a 22LR" crowd

I took a 2,000 lb. hog with an airsoft pistol.

Scoped.

Headshot.
:chris:

advocatusdiaboli
03-13-2014, 8:57 PM
An 800 pounder was taken in Georgia.

They eat better there and have more cover so I wouldn't be surprised.

advocatusdiaboli
03-13-2014, 9:07 PM
I took a 2,000 lb. hog with an airsoft pistol.

Scoped.

Headshot.
:chris:

I let Safeway kill and butcher mine; didn't life a finger except to BBQ and eat. That's beats all of ya.

-R-
03-15-2014, 9:29 PM
270 is what I use.

Ive shot half a dozen or so ranging from 150-275 pounds without any issues. My dad shot a ~300 pounder with a 300 win mag and dropped it where it stood.

californa
03-16-2014, 12:52 PM
Best rifle and round for hogs is the Savage HOG HUNTER. Name says it all. they come in 223REM .308WIN . 338WIN MAG. .308 is available almost everywhere and has a lot of bullet choices and has plenty of power. The hog Hunter comes with Iron sights and a threaded barrel. What is there to question? Sportmanswarehouse has them in .308 for $469.99 or Buds for $446
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/78093

2dogs1name
04-13-2015, 2:47 PM
If you are like me, and can only afford uppers for my AR lower, then the 6.8 build which is around a .270 caliber is a great alternative. More and more people are switching to AR platforms for hunting, as manufacturers are starting to focus on the hunting community.

advocatusdiaboli
04-13-2015, 2:56 PM
If you are like me, and can only afford uppers for my AR lower, then the 6.8 build which is around a .270 caliber is a great alternative. More and more people are switching to AR platforms for hunting, as manufacturers are starting to focus on the hunting community.

I am in the process of building out a 6.8 SPC for my Aero Precision lower.
So far, Aero Precision Upper, Wilson Combat fluted 16" recon tactical barrel. went featureless with an FRS-15 stock to avoid bullet button for now, but might switch down the road. I have a Hornady AP press so I'll be reloading, but the build will be a while yet. Need a few more parts and for Wilson to ship that barrel and BCG for 6.8 SPC. Plus finding powder for 6.8 SPC is a B*tch.

smittty
04-13-2015, 3:41 PM
Has anybody used a .357 lever gun for hogs?

Yes on the 357 mag and an outfitter that I'm planning a hunt with even approved the this cartridge so I'm not such a weirdo after all! Also no issues with 223 with good hunting bullets.

If buying a rifle specifically for pigs I'd suggest at least a 7.62x39 or 30-30 and obviously bigger is less risky as long as you do your part.

The cartridge is less a concern for me than narrowing down the perfect rifle.

Good luck

advocatusdiaboli
04-13-2015, 3:45 PM
FYI. third hand, Chris Kyle thought 64-75 grain bullets were just fine for hunting with ARs...or so a blogger says (and I believe him):

As an aside, Chris Kyle (FWFS, brother) was a friend of mine, and while not so patiently listening to one of my Crown-induced rants on the 5.56 NATO, he suggested that it was not caliber I hated, but the bullet. He told me to load up the case as fast as I could, push a 64 grain or heavier soft point round and see what happens. So I had Underground Tactical built me an AR in 5.56 which I swore I would never own, and built rounds ranging from 64 to 75 grains with it. I’ve taken 11 deer with them, and the wound tracks are nothing like I saw with the NATO round. I’ve never had to look for an animal, and a little Underground 5.5lb AR in 5.56 is my go-to hill country deer gun now, which is just crazy.

“Shoot the heaviest rifle round…shoot at what (you) can hit, and then shoot it again” (http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/10/daniel-zimmerman/medics-advice-shoot-heaviest-rifle-round-shoot-can-hit-shoot/)

Germz
04-13-2015, 4:26 PM
577 Tyrannosaur :D

advocatusdiaboli
04-13-2015, 5:29 PM
Actually, the ideal round is the M203 Grenade Launcher offering multiple kills with one shot. It fits perfectly under the hand guard of your AR and is a real pig puncher. But we cannot use them here in California :chris:

NapalmCheese
04-14-2015, 11:25 AM
FYI. third hand, Chris Kyle thought 64-75 grain bullets were just fine for hunting with ARs...or so a blogger says (and I believe him):



“Shoot the heaviest rifle round…shoot at what (you) can hit, and then shoot it again” (http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/10/daniel-zimmerman/medics-advice-shoot-heaviest-rifle-round-shoot-can-hit-shoot/)


I knew Chris Kyle was an authority on hunting people; but I never knew he was an authority on hunting pigs...

Calif Hunter
04-15-2015, 10:56 AM
I've shot a lot of hogs and almost all of them were shot with a .300 Win. Mainly because it was the main rifle I hunted everything with, and for the flatter trajectory than a .30-06...but my shots were often past 200 yards. A .30-06 is fine for hogs.

lausdeo
04-15-2015, 11:24 AM
.308 would work just fine.

advocatusdiaboli
04-15-2015, 11:34 AM
I have a .270 bolt gun which is why I am building a 6.8 SPC AR: same .277 caliber bullets so dies are the same though the weights are far less for 6.8 SPC because of the reduction in case size and powder. I don't want a wall full of dies and shell plates by my reloading bench.

Nearly any centerfire rifle round will take pigs reliably within range limits according to the caliber and case. .30-06, .308, .30-30, .270. 7mm RM, 7mm-08, .280 Ackely Improved, .243, 338 Federal (yikes), etc., etc. etc. You just have to pic one that fits you needs, means, and wants and the list is long which is a nice thing.