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JayRuff
02-14-2008, 9:33 PM
what kinda of animals can u legally hunt with .22 rimfires?

Army
02-15-2008, 7:19 AM
Any non-game mammal, and just about any and all pest/varmint. Be aware, you still need a hunting license to take all game, and most non-game mammals and birds.

ar15barrels
02-15-2008, 7:48 AM
Any non-game mammal, and just about any and all pest/varmint. Be aware, you still need a hunting license to take all game, and most non-game mammals and birds.

Which non-game mammals and birds can you hunt without a license?

glockman19
02-15-2008, 8:12 AM
Don't you also have to have non-leaded ammo in Condor Country as of July 1 2008?

ar15barrels
02-15-2008, 8:14 AM
Don't you also have to have non-leaded ammo in Condor Country as of July 1 2008?

Maybe rimfires are exempt?

rksimple
02-15-2008, 9:07 AM
Maybe rimfires are exempt?

Don't think so. They know that nobody makes leadfree 22lr and they passed it anyways. You can only use lead bullets on small game mammals (rabbit, tree squirrel, etc.), not on non game mammals.

gunn
02-15-2008, 11:08 AM
Don't think so. They know that nobody makes leadfree 22lr and they passed it anyways. You can only use lead bullets on small game mammals (rabbit, tree squirrel, etc.), not on non game mammals.

Rimfires WERE exempt from the original legislation but they Cal F&G board changed the rule to include rimfires after the law was passed.

http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2007/12/california_bans.php

Apparently CCI does make a green ammo but its currently 22 winmag only.
http://www.californiapredatorsclub.com/index.php?showtopic=6656&mode=threaded&pid=70016

rksimple
02-15-2008, 1:46 PM
Rimfires WERE exempt from the original legislation but they Cal F&G board changed the rule to include rimfires after the law was passed.

http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2007/12/california_bans.php

Apparently CCI does make a green ammo but its currently 22 winmag only.
http://www.californiapredatorsclub.com/index.php?showtopic=6656&mode=threaded&pid=70016

Yep. And they even mention that on the dfg website. They know that there is no leadfree .22lr

Fjold
02-15-2008, 2:18 PM
You can hunt small game and varmints (non-game) species with a rimfire. Here are the regulations:
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/regulations/07-08-mammal-regs.pdf

After July 1, 2008 you can take small game animals with a rimfire anywhere in the state but you will not be able to take varmints (or Coyotes) with them in the designated condor areas.

You must have a valid hunting license to take any animals with a firearm except that there used to be section on dispatching animals caught in a trap with a firearm if you have a valid trapping license.

CACitUP
02-15-2008, 3:06 PM
guess everyone needs to move to a .17 hm2 :)

Lets get those prices on ammo down!

Riodog
02-15-2008, 7:54 PM
When the last condor passes away will that be the end of the 'lead free' rule? Guess we know where this is going huh ?
Rio

Lon Moer
02-15-2008, 7:58 PM
I believe the deer hunting reg's specify a 'center fire rifle'.

Scarecrow Repair
02-16-2008, 12:21 AM
I have ground squirrels here trying to burrow under my deck footings. I assume they come under the non-game rodent provision, but it isn't at all clear to me if I need a hunting license for them. Field mice are non-game rodents and I can't imagine any response other than an incredulous laugh if I tried to get a hunting license for them. Is one required for ground squirrels? Or possibly some bozo thinks I am going to make a ground squirrel and flea stew...

socalguns
02-16-2008, 3:38 AM
You don't need a license to make your residence free of rodents.
http://www.snopes.com/legal/mousetrap.asp
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cacodes/hsc/116125-116170.html
116125. Every person possessing any place that is infested with rodents, as soon as their presence comes to his or her knowledge, shall at once proceed and continue in good faith to endeavor to exterminate and destroy the rodents, by poisoning, trapping, and other appropriate means.
However, if you're going hunting (with rifle/shotgun),
then you need a hunting license.

http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7438.html

Army
02-16-2008, 6:08 AM
I asked F&G this very question.

License needed for TREE squirrels (and only in season in certain counties), not for ground squirrels (or moles, gophers, rats, mice, skunk, opossum, nor woozels and hefalumps).

Way up north, I imagine no license needed for marmots either.

IIRC, you can use lead on cottontail and tree squirrel, as the law realizes that those carcasses will not be left behind. But that is from a quick glance at the new additions, could be wrong.

pullnshoot25
02-16-2008, 9:58 AM
I like the SSS rule... Shoot, Shovel and Shutup!