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MadMex
02-09-2008, 5:12 AM
Who would be the best running mate for Johnnie Mc?

I would like to see Condoleezza Rice.

Mark_in_Pasadena
02-09-2008, 7:02 AM
Who would be the best running mate for Johnnie Mc?

I would like to see Condoleezza Rice.

Good choice, Less Jobs and More Wars. Sounds like a match made in hell.....

Wulf
02-09-2008, 7:10 AM
I've heard it opined that she's "too smart" to take the job. Sounds possible to me. Not everybody wants to be a politician.

John needs to reach down and find one of the one of the young, conservative guys in congress like Duncan Hunter or better yet, Thaddius McCotter. If McCain is going to have any hope of bringing back conservatives, its going to with the VP choice. If he picks another RHINO, he might as well concede now and save everybody the trouble of voting.

jmlivingston
02-09-2008, 7:21 AM
I'd be happy with Hunter, Thompson, or Huckabee.

Wulf
02-09-2008, 7:30 AM
Thompson and Huckabee have never show anyone that they have the right stuff to lead a conservative movement. They might be able to muddle along as nominal conservatives, but they're not going to inspire and lead. Also, they're too old; they are not the future of the party or of the movement.

Hunter is a strong choice though.


Although I really like Cheney, a big part of the problem we're having right now is that W chose an old guy instead of a politician with their future ahead of them.

PressCheck
02-09-2008, 7:59 AM
Fred!

jmlivingston
02-09-2008, 7:59 AM
I like Thompson as a Reaganite, or at least the closest thing to one we have right now. Huckabee has finally started gathering the endorsements of the evangelical right with James Dobson (Focus on the Family) endorsing him in just the last day or two.

Both of these guys should be able to help bring the conservative vote to the ticket.

And I agree, Hunter is a good candidate but even with his short-lived campaign I'm not sure he as enough name recognition outside of CA to be a valuable contributor on the ticket.

Davidk
02-09-2008, 8:03 AM
He already has a deal with Huckabee for staying in the race and siphoning off votes from Romney.

Japedo
02-09-2008, 8:15 AM
Tom Tancredo

Zhukov
02-09-2008, 9:36 AM
Ron Paul ;)

PonchoTA
02-09-2008, 9:44 AM
I'm really strongly leaning towards either J.C. Watts, or Matt Blunt from MO.

Either of them, young and conservative, and smart! Would be very capable to take over the top spot if anything happened to Mc.

Big O
02-09-2008, 10:22 AM
Colin Powell

Fjold
02-09-2008, 11:05 AM
JC Watts. He's a good friend of McCain's and a conservative.

krazz
02-09-2008, 11:07 AM
McCain's choice would be Ted Kennedy.

MadMex
02-09-2008, 12:51 PM
Good choice, Less Jobs and More Wars. Sounds like a match made in hell.....
You have a point. Itís probably better if we were subjugated under Islamofascism, and humiliated women under Sharia. I think Iíll start a new womenís clothing chain, The Burka Barn. Any investors out there for my IPO?

PonchoTA
02-09-2008, 12:53 PM
You have a point. Itís probably better if we were subjugated under Islamofascism, and humiliated women under Sharia. I think Iíll start a new womenís clothing chain, The Burka Barn. Any investors out there for my IPO?
Send me a Prospectus!! I may be interested in this! :D

hitman13
02-09-2008, 1:05 PM
fred or duncan!!

bwiese
02-09-2008, 1:24 PM
VP choice somewhat irrelevant if Prez ain't gonna kick the bucket.

"Ticket balancing" is popular misperception. Mostly, VP doesn't do much except give support to Prez, help campaign, and vote in Senate when there's a tie.

Job ain't worth "a bucket of spit", as VP John Nance Garner once wrote.

President Bush was unique in using VP Cheney as combination trusted de facto chief-of-staff, war overseer, etc. Cheney wasn't running for anything in future, could do the dirty work and didn't care about any political liabilities which is why he could give a big "F.U." to opponents.

MadMex
02-09-2008, 1:45 PM
VP choice somewhat irrelevant if Prez ain't gonna kick the bucket.
In most cases yes. Johnnie Mc is as old as dirt. If he would happen to win, do you really think heíd run a for a second term? The VP role would groom a candidate for the subsequent election.

Gmountain
02-09-2008, 1:50 PM
I would not want Rice. She is smart, no doubt, but has never held an elected office in her life. She also has never campaigned a day in her life, and he (if he does get nominated) will need someone that knows how to run a campaign.

Wulf
02-09-2008, 3:52 PM
I would not want Rice. She is smart, no doubt, but has never held an elected office in her life. She also has never campaigned a day in her life, and he (if he does get nominated) will need someone that knows how to run a campaign.

You're right of course, but the thing that makes Condi so attractive is that she nullifies the "woman" edge Hillary would have, but does her one better in that Condi is tough with no history of cycling between *****y man hater and crybaby.

Condi does Barak one better in that's She's "blacker", lacks the Muslim background, lacks the terrorist'ish name, and she has even fewer votes on record that could be criticized which is saying something.

ldivinag
02-09-2008, 3:53 PM
guiliani.

mccain has western state support, while rudy will give him the east coast...

Patriot
02-09-2008, 4:16 PM
guiliani.

mccain has western state support, while rudy will give him the east coast...

That would be really, really bad in terms of conservative support. Many of those who are willing to hold their nose and vote for McCain might be tempted to reconsider if Giuliani jumps on board.

MadMex
02-09-2008, 4:39 PM
You're right of course, but the thing that makes Condi so attractive is that she nullifies the "woman" edge Hillary would have, but does her one better in that Condi is tough with no history of cycling between *****y man hater and crybaby.

Condi does Barak one better in that's She's "blacker", lacks the Muslim background, lacks the terrorist'ish name, and she has even fewer votes on record that could be criticized which is saying something.
Spot on. Also check out her 2A position.

SuperSet
02-09-2008, 5:30 PM
probably huckabee as mccain shows some weakness in the south and with the evangelical base. personally, i like bill richardson but that aint gonna happen.

ViPER395
02-09-2008, 5:32 PM
I won't be surprised if McCain picks another left-leaning republican like Guiliani or Lindsay Graham.

Personally I think J C Watts would be a good choice. Although it seems like he may have some skeletons if I remember correctly.

A Tancredo VP pick would cost him the election. I like Tancredo and some of his points. However I believe he's hated by many just by name recognition the way he's been portrayed as a huge racist.

I like Rumsfeld personally, but a lot of people don't and would see him as just another face of the Iraq war.

bg
02-09-2008, 5:36 PM
Boy I wish there were way to get Tom McClintock as
VP.

MadMex
02-09-2008, 6:02 PM
probably huckabee as mccain shows some weakness in the south and with the evangelical base. personally, i like bill richardson but that aint gonna happen.
Please add Then, Than to your signature.

Gmountain
02-09-2008, 7:45 PM
You're right of course, but the thing that makes Condi so attractive is that she nullifies the "woman" edge Hillary would have, but does her one better in that Condi is tough with no history of cycling between *****y man hater and crybaby.

Condi does Barak one better in that's She's "blacker", lacks the Muslim background, lacks the terrorist'ish name, and she has even fewer votes on record that could be criticized which is saying something.

She has never been married though, or even seen with a man. Lesbian? I don't know, but you can bet it will come up.

hitman13
02-09-2008, 9:54 PM
probably huckabee as mccain shows some weakness in the south and with the evangelical base. personally, i like bill richardson but that aint gonna happen.

please also add "to, too, two" to your sig line.;)

Patriot
02-09-2008, 10:10 PM
please also add "to, too, two" to your sig line.;)

Et tu :p

Charliegone
02-09-2008, 10:11 PM
I think, If McCain wants to win he would need some one who

a. wasn't that outspoken in the war, illegal immigration, etc. In other words, someone who is much like him, a centrist.

b. Someone who can garner votes in the east or south, as McCain has the west pretty much won.

berto
02-09-2008, 10:19 PM
Look at the roster of republican governors. Find one younger than 60 and more conservative than McCain, whatever that means, but not a scary bible thumping creationist freak that might scare people away. Coming from a state that's in play would be helpful.

Dont Tread on Me
02-10-2008, 6:15 AM
Rice combines the two "firsts" of The Witch and Hussein Obama (female and black) without the libtarded policies. I like that idea. I hope that she runs. A McCain Rice ticket would be quite marketable.

Blacktail 8541
02-10-2008, 7:33 AM
Putting Rice on the ticket would go a long way towards bringing back the minority vote and be a big plus. She is also very well recognized.

F-2_Challenger
02-10-2008, 7:50 AM
The question is if he is going to need a gimmick VP or not. If he was to go with Rice he would pull black women and men along with white women from the Dems if Billary is not running.

ViPER395
02-10-2008, 8:46 AM
She is also very well recognized.

...as a face from the Bush administration.

Not a big plus to many.

ptoguy2002
02-10-2008, 9:30 AM
I say Joe Lieberman.
Don't yell at me, this is my logic:
He really is a smart guy, a lot of conservatives actually like him.
We don't really need to worry about attracting the conservative vote, because with Obama and Hillary, conservatives are going to show up just to vote against them. Lieberman will attract some voters away from the dems side. This would be much more important if Obama were the nominee, because he will get a lot more of the independent vote.
The problem with this though logic though, is that he is pretty much pro-gun control / anti-gun (though he could be worse).
As VP though, the only time he would actually have any say in the matter though is if he had to break a tie in the senate, which probably woudn't happen.
*The reality of the situation is that we are NOT going to have a pro-gun president, get over it, so whatever it takes to make sure that we don't have a super anti-gun president, like Hillary.

Thinking about it more though, C. Rice is also a good option though too, attract the minority and female votes.

ViPER395
02-10-2008, 9:36 AM
I like Joe L.

Problem is he's pro-choice. That would keep many Repubs away.

mblat
02-10-2008, 10:02 AM
I like Joe L.

Problem is he's pro-choice. That would keep many Repubs away.

He is also openly VERY religious. That would bring a lot of evangelicals in.

That is said I think it will be McCain - Guliani ticket. Even though Rice seems like a logical choice, especially if Clinton wins and won't select Obama as VP.

Patriot
02-10-2008, 10:11 AM
For those who think a McCain-Lieberman or McCain-Giuliani ticket will woo conservatives and/or evangelicals, I pose a question: how many conservatives/evangelicals do you actually know? I grew up among such people, and I cannot understand where you're coming from.

(1) Do you really think they're going to vote for a candidate based on his 'religiosity' over the fact that he is pro-abortion?

(2) Yes, some will vote for either ticket as a vote against the Dem nominee, but the more liberal the GOP ticket is, the more conservatives/evangelicals I expect to abstain for reasons of conscience, principles, or just frustration.

xrMike
02-10-2008, 10:16 AM
Krusty the Clown -- he'd make as good a VP as anybody else in the Republican party.

bwiese
02-10-2008, 10:18 AM
=(2) Yes, some will vote for either ticket as a vote against the Dem nominee, but the more liberal the GOP ticket is, the more conservatives/evangelicals I expect to abstain for reasons of conscience, principles, or just frustration.

Then they have slept with, and are complicit with, the enemy. I assume that a fair fraction of these people are concerned about taxes, gov't size, nat'l security and RKBA too so.

Also the candidate will have to evaluate trading off the smaller fraction of Evangelical support (which is *separate* from overall conservatism) for the more valuable big swath of swing votes that likely value McCain's military service, general fiscal concerns etc.

Patriot
02-10-2008, 10:25 AM
Also the candidate will have to evaluate trading off the smaller fraction of Evangelical support (which is *separate* from overall conservatism) for the more valuable big swath of swing votes that likely value McCain's military service, general fiscal concerns etc.

Big swath of swing votes?

bwiese
02-10-2008, 10:35 AM
Big swath of swing votes?

Yeah, fairly middle of road folks -reasonably conservative but not 'rightwing', nor religiously skewed, and that are 'not happy' now, but are scared to death/personally dislike Hillary - could easily vote for McCain.

These people would NOT vote for Huck.

anonymous12
02-10-2008, 2:42 PM
Why would anyone vote for McCain to begin with? Just vote for Ron Paul.

Patriot
02-10-2008, 2:45 PM
Why would anyone vote for McCain to begin with? Just vote for Ron Paul.

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SemiAutoSam
02-10-2008, 3:02 PM
Did you bring bring enough for everyone ?

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Bucc
02-10-2008, 3:03 PM
Lieberman.
I gotta laugh at any comparison of McLaim to a conservative, that's why the delegates are going with him.
He(Lieberman) would get some additional hawkish Dems who don't want a dyke borg pecker wrecker for PotUS.
Who are the Repubs going to vote for?
Hillary?
No, ain't gonna happen.
Hell the Klan would vote for him rather than her regardless of being Jewish.
Speaking of that he may help pick up a good many Jewish Dem votes that would otherwise have voted for the other more dark side.
McClown won't run Condi, she is smarter and meaner than him and has better connections....she'd off his arse and be the PotUS.
it's a grim season Ladies and Gents.
There is no good choice here.
I think I'm gonna write Ron Paul in. Won't do any good I know but I can't endorse anyone running.

Where the hell is John Wayne when we need him? ! ?

anonymous12
02-10-2008, 3:39 PM
Seriously McCain??? Come on I would vote for Bush again before him.

F-2_Challenger
02-10-2008, 4:15 PM
I think its best we don't beat this to death until we know who he is going to run against.

Steyr_223
02-10-2008, 5:19 PM
I hear this guy, Jorge W Bush will be available..He has same stance as McCain on illegals, Iran, Iraq and the economy.

Open a vein before you vote for McCain!

:)

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tygerpaw
02-10-2008, 6:20 PM
He is also openly VERY religious. That would bring a lot of evangelicals in.

Uhhhh, he's Jewish dude. Romney is also very religious, but he's mormon. He didnt bring too many "Evangelicals". Evangelicals are Christians dude. ;)

mblat
02-10-2008, 6:46 PM
Uhhhh, he's Jewish dude. Romney is also very religious, but he's mormon. He didnt bring too many "Evangelicals". Evangelicals are Christians dude. ;)

Yes, and if I remember correctly they were pretty happy about him in 2000. But this is irrelevant anyway - he said he wouldn't run as Republican

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/01/16/msnbc-floating-mccain-lieberman-ticket-despite-reality.

Wizard99
02-10-2008, 8:07 PM
Huckabee would be a bad choice. He is very shallow on economics and so is McCain. Huckabee also hasn't generated much support beyond evangelicals. McCain should cary the south regardless. Huckabee has also made enough public anti Mormon remarks that Utah, Idaho, and Nevada could go to the Democrat-Socialists due to a Huckabee backlash, from Mormons.