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philmonty
11-17-2013, 5:30 PM
Hi all

My son is turning 18 in December and has decided he wants a lever action rifle in .45LC (we have plenty of that ammo for Ruger New Vaquero). Yes, I know that lever guns in .45LC didn't exist on the original guns, but it's a fun cartridge.

Looking for advice on going with a new repro versus used. He won't shoot it lots.

In terms of new - I notice that the Marlin looks pretty nice - http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/cowboy/1894_45colt.asp

Any advice?

Phil

donw
11-17-2013, 5:35 PM
the marlin is an excellent choice.

rromeo
11-17-2013, 5:37 PM
I like Marlins, although I think anything other than .30-30 or .45-70 are impossible to find right now.
Henrys are out there, as well as Rossi.

Hairball
11-17-2013, 6:23 PM
Here is a used Marlin for 1020.00

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=376828602

The first two digits of the serial number are 02 so it was made in 1998. To bad it was not 05 (made in 1995 like your sons birthday) but its as close as you may get. It is set at a buy it now price so that makes it easy.

Bastard
11-17-2013, 6:29 PM
were it me spending your money, I would go with one of those Uberti 73 or even the new productions Winchester 73s, though I think those are .357

osis32
11-17-2013, 6:30 PM
My buddy has a Henry in 45lc. Fun gun no recoil and pretty accurate

TMB 1
11-17-2013, 6:36 PM
Rossi makes a nice Model 92 in 45 Colt.

Flyin Brian
11-17-2013, 8:25 PM
Here's a Marlin Cowboy Limited in 45 Colt with Skinner sights for $700:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=385484&highlight=marlin

It belongs to my Son. I was sad that he cut it down, but it is super accurate and fun to shoot.

Exodus343
11-17-2013, 10:50 PM
man such a cool dad...
I brought myself into guns 2 years ago at the age of 18 and made myself a promise, when I have kids they won't be without a role model, and certainly don't need to worry about if they have enough money for guns

zdragon
11-18-2013, 8:44 AM
Love my 16" 44mag Rossi 92.....works great with my LSWC reloads.

http://imageshack.us/a/img89/7471/gsh8.jpg

Longbow
11-18-2013, 9:44 AM
Depending on what he plans to do with the rifle will color the choice you should consider making.

If he wants a hell-for strong design, the PRE-REM Marlin, or Rossi, in that order, are both solid choices.

If he wants to shoot cowboy action, the Uberti 1873 Winchester clones, followed by the Marlin, are both solid choices.

If he just wants to hang it on a wall, or plink, the Henry is OK, and pretty. Not too good for much else.

Stay AWAY from the Winchester 94 design, unless you're using it for a lamp, or tomato stake.

This advice is based on lots of shared, or personal experience, some of it sad and bitter!

Cheers,
Longbow

Kokak
11-18-2013, 10:25 AM
Just picked up the M92 Rossi 16" in Stainless... and it is INCREDIBLE, it shoots like a dream.

I have also added a Skinner Rear Peep Sight to it (in stainless as well) and the rifle is spot on!

You can get them for about 530.00 out the door from Gallery of Guns.

cwilliams
11-18-2013, 10:36 AM
Bought my brother a used 20" stainless Puma (Rossi) M92 in .357 for Christmas last year. The design is really robust with options for small detail upgrades to make it that much better for not a whole lot. I wouldn't ever turn one down if given to me or at the right price.

MongooseV8
11-18-2013, 1:10 PM
Stay away from the new Marlins. Either a Rossi 92, an old Marlin 07' or older, or a Winchester 94 are your best choices.

Exodus343
11-18-2013, 1:24 PM
not trying to thread jack
but the consensus on Rossi's are they are good?

zdragon
11-18-2013, 1:34 PM
the consensus on Rossi's are they are good?

Actually made by Taurus in Brazil....great rifle for under 500bucks.

Exodus343
11-18-2013, 1:35 PM
Actually made by Taurus in Brazil....great rifle for under 500bucks.

where can I find one for under 500?
everywhere local is $550.... to $600 :(

MongooseV8
11-18-2013, 1:48 PM
I paid $683 OTD for a stainless 24" octagon barrel Rossi from gunbroker. Check Davidson's gallery of guns for a good price on one.

The Rossi isn't fit and finished as well as an older Marlin but they are stronger and supposed to be accurate and reliable like a Marlin. Time will tell since I pick mine up today after work.

Quinc
11-18-2013, 1:49 PM
Get him something even better and a little different like the Rossi m92 454 lever action. You can still shoot the .45LC but also shoot .454. :D
http://www.rossiusa.com/product-details.cfm?id=159

Lots of good info on these forums:
http://www.rossi-rifleman.com/index.php

golfish
11-18-2013, 1:51 PM
not trying to thread jack
but the consensus on Rossi's are they are good?

I have two of them, a 24" oct barrel .357 and a 16" .44 carbine. The .357 didn't like the OAL of the .357 round and need to be sent back to Rossi for some adjustment. It works great now and is very smooth. The 44 worked just fine out of the box.

If I could do it again I would have bought the .357 in a 20" round barrel and the 44 in a 20" oct barrel. The 24" is just to darn heavy and the 16" carbine is too short for my old eyes. They use Brazilian hardwood, what ever that is. Both of my guns look like the butt stock was cut from one tree and the forearm was cut from a different kind of tree...

golfish
11-18-2013, 1:55 PM
Get him something even better and a little different like the Rossi m92 454 lever action. You can still shoot the .45LC but also shoot .454. :D
http://www.rossiusa.com/product-details.cfm?id=159



very good, Sir. I didn't even see the 45LC mentioned in the OP.

If I were buying a 45LC Rossi I would buy the Casull. I like the fact that they have a loading gate and can be tube feed..

Here's one from GB for 533.00

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=375939297

Another with no reserve
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=376540792

-hanko
11-18-2013, 2:03 PM
the Pre-Remington marlin is an excellent choice.
Fixed, a little ;)

RAMCHARGER
11-18-2013, 2:26 PM
not trying to thread jack
but the consensus on Rossi's are they are good?

YES THEY ARE!
I was on the fence on these too. Then last Xmas my son got me one in .357 (Short barrel, big loop lever) Holy cow I LOVE it!

Epaphroditus
11-18-2013, 2:56 PM
I got lots of good feeedback in this thread (www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=841368)on lever guns.

I opted for the Rossi ... fit and finish is very nice and after a bit of tuning it runs very smooth (it really was not bad to start with - but I thinker therefor I am). I got the 24" Octagonal barrel version (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_385/products_id/56483/Rossi+44+Mag+Lever+Action+w24%22+Octagon+Blue+Barr elWalnut+S). Me likey - even though I prefer the look of the Marlin and the side ejection but I think I'll be alright with the Rossi!

Yes, go to the Rossi web page and follow the links to purchase - quite a few of several models in stock.

zdragon
11-18-2013, 3:09 PM
where can I find one for under 500?
everywhere local is $550.... to $600 :(

45colt = $420
44mag = $500

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_385/products_id/56505/Rossi+45+Colt+Lever+Action+w20%22+Round+Blue+Barre lWalnut+St

Ross
11-18-2013, 3:31 PM
I love my Marlin 1894C in 44mag. Even with 10 rds in the tube the balance feels near perfect.

raygun5000
11-18-2013, 7:06 PM
not trying to thread jack
but the consensus on Rossi's are they are good?

+1 on Rossi's. I have a 16" barrel, large loop in .357 mag. It can take .38 special and the recoil feels a little more than a .22LR. The .357 mag rounds don't have that much more kick than the .38sp.

It shoots very well out to 100 yards for me. After that, my eyes fail me, haha.

I haven't had any failure to feed, fire, or eject so far. Probably have 1500- 2000 rounds though the carbine.

The action was a little stiff out the box, but has smoothed out since.

dangerranger
11-18-2013, 7:27 PM
I have the Marlin 94 in 45 colt. It was made to be shot in Cowboy action. [ lots of fast shooting.] I've had it 8 years, its had between 5 and 8 thousand rounds through it without any problems. I have friends who shoot the Rossi, and Uberti clones. Neither can hold up to that amount of abuse like the marlin. I have shot pigs with it using 300 grain lead bullets, and targets using 180 grain lead. All shot fine. Big 5 used to run them for $350 a while back. They called them the Big 5 special. the only difference was very plain blond wood, you may want to see if they can still get them. DR

HandCanonShootr
11-21-2013, 3:41 PM
Love my Marlin 1894P .44 Mag ported. Added XS ghostrings, what a great combo, w/.44spl very nice also. That is why I'd get a .44mag over 45lc

Mike B

Exodus343
11-21-2013, 4:16 PM
so... 30-30 or a 357?
LOL

sorry for the thread jack :(