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ipser
11-09-2013, 6:29 PM
Rampage shooters crave the spotlight, and we should do everything possible to deprive them of it.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303309504579181702252120052

707electrician
11-09-2013, 6:35 PM
I was just saying the other day how it is funny that the media plasters these killers faces all over the news but when some drunken idiot runs around on the field during an MLB game, they turn the cameras away

SonofWWIIDI
11-09-2013, 6:56 PM
:dupe: by about an hour I think.

:D

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=849792

marcusrn
11-09-2013, 10:18 PM
Great article!

Dr Gavin DeBecker and Dr Park Deitz have been advising media for yrs not to glorify or vilify these deviants.

"If it bleeds it leads" pays the bills for cable and news networks. Peirs Morgan, Anderson Cooper and Rachel Maddow sell this stuff like beer and pretzels and care nothing about the pornography they pedal. It's part of the "narrative" and they feel that is more important to their ends.

Ninask
11-09-2013, 10:31 PM
Firm believer many mass shootings are false flag events designed to deprive citizens of their ability to fight a civil war against a fascist takeover

db42
11-09-2013, 10:50 PM
Firm believer many mass shootings are false flag events designed to deprive citizens of their ability to fight a civil war against a fascist takeover

So you're insane - is basically what you're saying.

Wow, thank goodness we had the WSJ to tell us this. I mean, it's not as though this has been known for over a decade. And it's not as though the exact same message has been preached by numerous voices in the media - especially over the past year.

Ninask
11-09-2013, 11:17 PM
False flag events are well documented in many cases
e.g. Northwoods documents, Gulf of Tonkin incident and many others,
Only sheeple still asleep would suggest you are insane because you recognize it

db42
11-09-2013, 11:45 PM
False flag events are well documented in many cases
e.g. Northwoods documents, Gulf of Tonkin incident and many others,
Only sheeple still asleep would suggest you are insane because you recognize it

Crazy people doing crazy things is even more "well documented".
You assume that people are gullible because they don't buy into a conspiracy theory - don't go outside you'll get contrail all over you.

Incidentally, people claiming that something was a false flag doesn't constitute "documentation", and the "Northwood Papers" stuff was all rejected - how does rejecting something show a pattern of activity?

pastureofmuppets
11-10-2013, 4:22 AM
It's like when you catch the low-speed chases on the news from L.A and the reporter says "hopefully this will end safely and peacefully", and you can't help but say out loud "Bull**** you hope that".

Then people wonder why they happen all the time…


When people start talking about guns and mass shootings, I always ask if they can tell me the name of the murderer of the Sandy Hook massacre. Then I ask if they can name the teacher that died huddled over trying to protect her child students.

Guess what?

Yup.



The next question is… if you were a seriously mentally ill socio/psychopath sure you will never amount to anything or be recognized for anything, and committed to suicide what would be the way to go out and have your name etched in the worlds mind and in the history books?

Yup. America has a mental health and media problem… and the mental health issue not just the full blown psycho's, it's the people lapping up the drama because they are so shallow, vacant and lifeless themselves; enabling the media to be so ethically vacant in the 24 hour battle to serve up anything to keep peoples attention on their five minutes of filler between the main programming and not on the competitions - the actual programming being the cash generating adverts.

Ninask
11-10-2013, 4:35 AM
Crazy people doing crazy things is even more "well documented".
You assume that people are gullible because they don't buy into a conspiracy theory - don't go outside you'll get contrail all over you.

Incidentally, people claiming that something was a false flag doesn't constitute "documentation", and the "Northwood Papers" stuff was all rejected - how does rejecting something show a pattern of activity?

Wow
I mentioned 2 classic PROVEN beyond question national instances of false flag instances by the US government that are in the history books and the only reply you make is drivul about conspiracy theories? I guess some truths in politics are just too difficult for some to accept-do yourself a favor and avoid debating politics , your not even awake yet,
labeling something as a "conspiracy theory" is the tool of those attempting to control and subvert society, and the pitfall of the ignorant and uninformed
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machrono
11-10-2013, 2:03 PM
It would be refreshing if Feinstein, Bloomberg, etc. could make efforts along these sensible recommendations, rather than the path they have taken.

pastureofmuppets
11-10-2013, 7:22 PM
It would be refreshing if Feinstein, Bloomberg, etc. could make efforts along these sensible recommendations, rather than the path they have taken.

What? Like crime control rather than gun control?


But crime control is hard to measure, hard work, with actual demonstrable results, complicated and hard to grandstand on!

Why would a career politician want to risk attacking something that would actually benefit society when they could actually be held accountable by real numbers?

Better just to look like you are doing something and playing off of ignorance and emotion.

Dreaded Claymore
11-10-2013, 7:50 PM
Aside from casual assertions that more guns are bad, that was a fantastic article that more people--especially journalists--should read. Thanks for posting the link!

Pmoore87
11-11-2013, 1:11 PM
Amid the Noise on youtube did a great video on the cycle of violence. I highly recommend checking it out. I would post a link, but I am at work, and loading youtube might cause this computer to explode. He basically explains how human beings have always used violence to elevate themselves socially. Be it for breeding rights, food, or just plain control. After all we are just highly evolved animals. And shows how these people in their sick minds see it as a way to elevate themselves socially. Its sick, but true. Check out the video.

As for stopping them, well that is a complex answer that likely none of us have the answer to. Perhaps brining back insane asylums, and labotomy's. Only half kidding here too. Just like I believe you could stop repeat sex offenders by castration. The media knows this, the fact that each time they sensationalize a shooting they are setting in motion the next sick bastard trying to elevate himself. The more its talked about and the more gun control is pushed. The more these people see as a way to make themselves known. To leave a lasting effect on society.

Pmoore87
11-11-2013, 1:21 PM
Firm believer many mass shootings are false flag events designed to deprive citizens of their ability to fight a civil war against a fascist takeover

I have to agree here. Even if the behind the scenes people are not directly setting them up, they are definately spinning the facts, and using the media to push the agenda. And it is an agenda, Eric Holder stated publically that they were gonna play gun crime over and over, until the people associated guns with crime.

I also believe that the real power structure in this country is multi national corporations, and above all the military industrail complex. I believe is was a small faction higher ups that did 9/11. I also believe this country experienced a coup d'etat on November 22nd, 1963. Its kinda funny both these things I mentioned follow a military plan that is public data.

There are no coinsedences. Especially when you start looking at recent quantum physics discoveries.

a1c
11-11-2013, 3:02 PM
Wow. :TFH:

socom2shooter
11-11-2013, 3:32 PM
Firm believer many mass shootings are false flag events designed to deprive citizens of their ability to fight a civil war against a fascist takeover

Agreed

a1c
11-11-2013, 4:57 PM
I appreciate the intent and I have no doubt that media exposure of mass shootings give ideas to potential nuts, but I personally believe that First Amendment rights trump every other consideration.

It's up to the media to demonstrate responsibility. Some do, many don't. Because the media is in the business of selling ads to eyeballs. And let's face it - nothing sells like blood. Just look at those rubberneckers whenever there is an accident on the freeway.

So I'm not gonna throw the stone at anybody here - except to those mass murderer crazies who should be locked up for life.

Spyguy
11-11-2013, 5:34 PM
The media will NOT take responsible action and refuse to give these killers the publicity they desire for two reasons:

1. The media thrives on ratings and these stories generate HUGE ratings, which equals huge revenues for their companies.

2. The Left-facing media want everyone disarmed -- except the government of course. These stories help advance their agenda of having the government further infringe our Second Amendment rights.

Expecting the media to voluntarily not publicize these events is like expecting statist politicians to voluntarily refuse campaign contributions from lobbyists and to voluntarily adhere to the Constitution. Ain't gonna' happen.

prob
11-11-2013, 5:51 PM
Damnatio memoriae

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae

A simple solution, if only the news media would play along. Make no mistake, as most of us already know, the popular media are the handmaidens of the liberal politicians and will do everything in their power to demonize firearms ownership.

ChrisC
11-12-2013, 7:44 AM
Firm believer many mass shootings are false flag events designed to deprive citizens of their ability to fight a civil war against a fascist takeover

Tell that to the families that lost lives from mass shooters.

bako88fan
11-12-2013, 8:28 AM
I was just saying the other day how it is funny that the media plasters these killers faces all over the news but when some drunken idiot runs around on the field during an MLB game, they turn the cameras away

That's because if it bleeds it leads.

ja308
11-28-2013, 8:04 AM
Good article ! As for these murders, their names should be blotted from history and every portion of their lives deleted, all records including the birth certificate should be scrubbed from every public record.

After the lawfull trial, I suggest death by firing squad with amateur shooters using single shot 22s .

The remains should be left for scavengers !

a1c
11-28-2013, 9:24 AM
Good article ! As for these murders, their names should be blotted from history and every portion of their lives deleted, all records including the birth certificate should be scrubbed from every public record.

Sounds like you'd make a good employee at the Ministry of Truth.

After the lawfull trial, I suggest death by firing squad with amateur shooters using single shot 22s .

The remains should be left for scavengers !

You must be fun at dinner parties.

drew3630
11-28-2013, 10:03 AM
I agree that these sicko mass killers receive too much publicity. That in turn encourages (don't know if that's the right word) more of the same.

More people know who Adam Lanza is than Dawn Hochsprung or Victoria Soto.
BTW, if Dawn Hochsprung had a gun none of this would have happened. But that's another thread.

Spyguy
11-28-2013, 10:14 AM
It would be refreshing if Feinstein, Bloomberg, etc. could make efforts along these sensible recommendations, rather than the path they have taken.
Your first mistake is assuming that people like Feinstein and Bloomberg actually care about "the little people" and want to make society safe. On the contrary, statists thrive on the power that is handed to them during times of chaos.

Gun control is about control. And the Leftists never let a crisis go to waste.

ja308
12-02-2013, 8:56 AM
Sounds like you'd make a good employee at the Ministry of Truth.



You must be fun at dinner parties.


I never heard of the Ministry of truth . I will do a websearch however .

Yes I am lots of fun at dinner party's and have a full social calendar ! Thank you for your kind observation !

Regarding those who choose to murder innocent people in these democrat created gun free zones.
Are you suggesting we forget, or minimize the atrocities ? Are you implying we should try to understand the pain and anguish of the killers ?

If your sympathetic to the killers, your not alone !
The Aurora Colorado Mayor never mentioned retribution or justice for those brutally murdered by this California animal who opened fire in a movie theatre during a kids movie .:facepalm:

Here's 10 minutes of blah, blah , blah !
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=258_W_hmQ2M&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D258_W_hmQ2M

Medics197
12-02-2013, 9:02 AM
I never heard of the Ministry of truth . I will do a websearch however .

Yes I am lots of fun at dinner party's and have a full social calendar ! Thank you for your kind observation !

Regarding those who choose to murder innocent people in these democrat created gun free zones.
Are you suggesting we forget, or minimize the atrocities ? Are you implying we should try to understand the pain and anguish of the killers ?

If your sympathetic to the killers, your not alone !
The Aurora Colorado city website never mentioned retribution or justice for those brutally murdered by this California animal who opened fire in a movie theatre during a kids movie .:facepalm:

1984 george orwell....

ja308
12-10-2013, 7:25 PM
1984 george orwell....


Ah yes ! I recall the novel !

I believe the ministry of truth was designed to change the present and the future by altering the past .

My idea of blotting out the existence of mass murderers has the purpose of denying the attention many of these evil scumbags apparently crave .

So AC I would not be a good candidate to replace Winston in the ministry of truth . :D

I do however accept invitations to dinner party's and have some open time, in the event you choose to include myself and a date to one of your events :D