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aileron
01-30-2008, 7:38 AM
Hahahhaahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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BBC Radio 5 presenter threatened with a gun when testing safety of Britain's streets
Last updated at 17:49pm on 28th January 2008

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Shelagh Fogarty was threatened with a gun while making a programme about crime on Britain's streets
BBC Radio Five presenter Shelagh Fogarty today described her terror at having a gun pointed at her face while filming in Liverpool on Saturday night.

The breakfast show host was taking part in a special programme for the ITV1 Tonight programme to find out how safe Britain's streets are, to be aired tonight.

While filming in Norris Green, an area of her home town Liverpool, a car slowed down as it past her, wound down a window and a gun was pointed directly at her.

She believes had it not been for the sound of a police siren nearby and a CCTV van in the road, she may have been killed.

Shelagh also revealed a gang of 40 thugs pelted her with glass bottles and stones in a frightening attack the previous night.

She said on her breakfast show: "I had quite a horrible, and difficult weekend really.

"I was in Liverpool filming a programme regarding Jacqui Smith's comments about not feeling safe on the streets on her own and testing out the theory really with how other people felt.

"On Friday night, I was speaking to a group of young people - I won't call them a gang, they were a group at this stage - and it was off camera, I was just having a chat outside a shop when all of a sudden there were 20 or more people at either end of the street penning us in.

"We had nowhere to escape to and they started throwing glass bottles at us. There was glass smashing all over the place, but the frightening thing was this happened with eight year old boys playing football nearby, women pushing their children down the street in pushchairs."

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Shelagh Fogarty was testing street safety in Liverpool after Home Secretary Jacqui Smith admitted she did not go out on her own at night

She added: "We thought that was bad enough but then the next night was even more frightening.

"We were in this road when a car suddenly slowed right down as it passed us. A window opened and a gun came out and pointed directly at me.

"I froze and then I heard a police siren nearby, not related, but I think that might of put them off doing anything.

"There was also a CCTV van in the road, and they would of seen that, so that makes their attack even more audacious because they did it right in front of the CCTV camera."

The programme follows several celebrity reporters returning to their home towns to see if the people living there feel safe on the streets and would walk around alone.

Other reporters included Carol McGiffin of TV's Loose Women, Saira Khan an ex-Apprentice contestant.

Shelagh said: "I never thought I would have a gun pointed in my face and never thought that would happen just five minutes from the place I went to school."


Go to the site and read some of the comments very interesting.

Prc329
01-30-2008, 8:56 AM
Hmm, didn't they ban guns in that country? Doesn't banning guns make you safer?

Fate
01-30-2008, 9:26 AM
Gun safe zones don't stop crime? WTF?

gmcal
01-30-2008, 9:36 AM
Gun safe zones don't stop crime? WTF?

I think gun safe zones would reduce crime. Gun free zones have done nothing to reduce crime. ;)

gazzavc
01-30-2008, 10:05 AM
Serves them bloody well right. I have no sympathy for my fellow countrymen anymore. They deserve the government they elected, and to be honest , there hasen't been a decent one over there in 20 years.

Maybe the idiots running the country will realise what they have done.

Gary (disgruntled ex-patriot)

adamsreeftank
01-30-2008, 12:41 PM
Serves them bloody well right. I have no sympathy for my fellow countrymen anymore. They deserve the government they elected, and to be honest , there hasen't been a decent one over there in 20 years.

Maybe the idiots running the country will realise what they have done.

Gary (disgruntled ex-patriot)

That's the way a lot of people think about California.

odysseus
01-30-2008, 1:51 PM
Hmm, didn't they ban guns in that country?

No they didn't really. They seized and banned legal ownership and use of firearms from law-abiding people.

shark92651
01-30-2008, 2:37 PM
I got some sanctimonious comments from some British guy on my Hello Kitty rifle blog about how the US is obsessed with guns, high crime rate, etc... When I pointed out stats that showed you are more likely to get robbed or assaulted in the UK than in the US he replied "I'd rather get robbed or assaulted than shot!". Then I guess he must love it there.

gazzavc
01-30-2008, 2:55 PM
Oh dear how sad never mind.

unfortunatly most Brits have never experienced life outside their borders and don't understand how other people think. They have never been brought up or around firearms and dont realise how much enjoyment and fun is experienced by the collecting and ownership of firearms.

Their loss

Gary

.223
01-30-2008, 9:13 PM
I got some sanctimonious comments from some British guy on my Hello Kitty rifle blog about how the US is obsessed with guns, high crime rate, etc... When I pointed out stats that showed you are more likely to get robbed or assaulted in the UK than in the US he replied "I'd rather get robbed or assaulted than shot!". Then I guess he must love it there.

Sounds like a victim's mentality to me. Me, I'd rather go down fighting than be robbed, assaulted, or shot right out.

ViPER395
01-31-2008, 10:36 AM
That's the way a lot of people think about California.

Yea..

& no, they will never realize they caused this by their pathetic lawmaking.

Sleepy1988
01-31-2008, 4:03 PM
Serves them bloody well right. I have no sympathy for my fellow countrymen anymore. They deserve the government they elected, and to be honest , there hasen't been a decent one over there in 20 years.

Maybe the idiots running the country will realise what they have done.

Gary (disgruntled ex-patriot)

Say, out of all the states you could move to in the U.S. why did you choose California? If one of the reasons you moved here was to own guns with less restrictions (I can't imagine moving here just for that reason) wouldn't it make sense to move to a different state?

gazzavc
01-31-2008, 10:10 PM
Say, out of all the states you could move to in the U.S. why did you choose California? If one of the reasons you moved here was to own guns with less restrictions (I can't imagine moving here just for that reason) wouldn't it make sense to move to a different state?

I never really had a huge amount of choice. My Dad moved us here in 76 after Mum passed away in 75. We had cousins out here so thats probably one of the reason for California. Besides it was very different back in the 70's.

Given my choice now I probably would have gone somewhere else, but back then who knew.

Gaz

50 Freak
01-31-2008, 10:56 PM
Thank God they have gun control there.:43::43:

socalguns
02-01-2008, 6:14 AM
i'm suprised no-one tried to cannibalize her :spam::piggy::beatdeadhorse5::rofl:

MikeWilliamson
02-01-2008, 6:35 AM
I got some sanctimonious comments from some British guy on my Hello Kitty rifle blog about how the US is obsessed with guns, high crime rate, etc... When I pointed out stats that showed you are more likely to get robbed or assaulted in the UK than in the US he replied "I'd rather get robbed or assaulted than shot!". Then I guess he must love it there.

Ex-pat Brit here, also, glad to be out of the cesspool.

I recall an Austrian on a group I subscribe to telling me how he doesn't stop at intersections at night on his motorcycle, in case he gets robbed. But it's a "good feeling" to know that no citizen has a gun. Makes him feel safe.

WTF?????

ViPER395
02-01-2008, 6:40 AM
Ex-pat Brit here, also, glad to be out of the cesspool.

I recall an Austrian on a group I subscribe to telling me how he doesn't stop at intersections at night on his motorcycle, in case he gets robbed. But it's a "good feeling" to know that no citizen has a gun. Makes him feel safe.

WTF?????

This is one of the end results of liberalism.

They know and can admit they're totally threatened with rape, robbery and death around every corner in everyday life. Yet they feel less threatened because no one can own and carry firearms?

SecondAmendmentgirl
02-01-2008, 8:10 AM
Gun safe zones don't stop crime? WTF?

Or the most surveillance cameras on the planet?

The Brit
02-01-2008, 10:01 AM
Serves them bloody well right. I have no sympathy for my fellow countrymen anymore. They deserve the government they elected, and to be honest , there hasen't been a decent one over there in 20 years.

Maybe the idiots running the country will realise what they have done.

Gary (disgruntled ex-patriot)

Amen, brother. The last decent politician we (they) had was Maggie.

Glock22Fan
02-01-2008, 10:20 AM
Amen, brother. The last decent politician we (they) had was Maggie.

+100000

Though, in many respects, Tony Blair did way better than I expected. Managed to keep his stupid left wing in check for quite a time.

bulgron
02-01-2008, 3:18 PM
The thing I find sad about this story is that it's just going to give fuel to the Police State that's forming in England. Highly visible celebrities are being threatened at gun point on Britain's streets, and it isn't possible to make guns any more illegal than they already are there. So rather that admit that their gun control policies aren't working and so should be abandoned, the public is going to just start screaming for more police protections, more check points, more invasion of privacy, and more of all the things that anyone who thinks about it knows only leads to petty dictators.

What's more, once the police prove themselves incapable of cleaning up the streets (as they are almost certainly guaranteed to fail to do), the next move will be to use the military to lock down Britain's cities. At that point, it'll be game over.

From my perspective, the kindling has been set and the bonfire built, now all it takes is for someone with the wrong intentions to come along and strike a match. After that, the next stop is gulags and gas showers, all in the name of public safety, mind you.

odysseus
02-01-2008, 4:36 PM
I agree with you. I have wondered at times at the remarkable ability of the people of the UK to take on more and more socialism and watch whatever rights they have be taken away. I keep waiting to hear of politicians in their House standing up and fighting this siege, but it seems not to. Maggie did do a lot of good there, some of it very unpopular to Labor, but it was bullet they had to bite to save many industries that were socialized. Now the tide is opposite there and the BS hype about her is rampant.

The basic reasoning to me is that it is a simple fact of an education system that now for a couple generations has been brain-washing and changing culture away from personal rights, and using fear mongering as justifications. It is a CLEAR lesson for ourselves on education and information, and how that is tweaked, and time willing, how many continue to look to the government for their safety DOMESTICALLY, and are willing to write a bigger check for it.

So rather that admit that their gun control policies aren't working and so should be abandoned, the public is going to just start screaming for more police protections, more check points, more invasion of privacy, and more of all the things that anyone who thinks about it knows only leads to petty dictators.

...

From my perspective, the kindling has been set and the bonfire built, now all it takes is for someone with the wrong intentions to come along and strike a match. After that, the next stop is gulags and gas showers, all in the name of public safety, mind you.