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riceman
10-07-2013, 2:31 PM
:confused:Since I have lived all my life North of Sacramento & since I have had a CCW for about 40 years, open carry is a mystery to me.
I am thinking it is the only other recourse people have in areas where CCW are not permitted.
Thanks in advance.

M. D. Van Norman
10-07-2013, 2:47 PM
It is generally “illegal” throughout the state.

DFence
10-07-2013, 3:20 PM
:confused:Since I have lived all my life North of Sacramento & since I have had a CCW for about 40 years, open carry is a mystery to me.
I am thinking it is the only other recourse people have in areas where CCW are not permitted.
Thanks in advance.

This topic has never been brought up in your mandatory CA CCW training every 2 years over the last 40 years?

stix213
10-07-2013, 4:07 PM
This topic has never been brought up in your mandatory CA CCW training every 2 years over the last 40 years?

Maybe he lives in Oregon, which is still north of Sac :p

LoneYote
10-07-2013, 8:46 PM
This topic has never been brought up in your mandatory CA CCW training every 2 years over the last 40 years?

I think OP is asking why people want to have OC rather than asking about when its an option.

Bumslie
10-07-2013, 9:41 PM
I love you so much for saying educate me instead or "school me".

God bless you

sharxbyte
10-07-2013, 9:44 PM
We don't do that here. Contrary to popular belief, doing things that scare the locals gets new laws made here, as opposed to "preserving rights." and even after a whole state lost a constitutionally guaranteed right, the rest of the country is still learning that lesson the hard way.

DFence
10-07-2013, 10:22 PM
Maybe he lives in Oregon, which is still north of Sac :p

Touché!

Rodell
10-08-2013, 4:14 AM
Open carry is just another option. Not every clothing option allows concealment of your primary carry piece. Also, it is nice to know if you accidentally disclose a carry piece that you aren't suddenly illegal and threatening.

Open carry for the purpose of getting a reaction is just asking for trouble. Going about your business is no big deal.

Depending on where one lives, you may or may not get a bunch of attention with OC. If you do carry in that way you had best be prepared for it. Some of it good, some of it not so much!

I don't live in CA, and have been fortunate to live in states where OC is ok, although I've always had a CCW - even in states like NY, MA, and MD over the years. Still, sometimes OC is just the way it is - like not putting on my jacket when pumping gas.

Having the option is very nice. Being prevented from doing it is not.

the86d
10-08-2013, 5:08 AM
Drug-addict Democrats, want to protect other drug-addict Democrats, no matter what crimes they commit. They want criminals to be able to do whatever they want, including rape, and violent assault. We have no open carry of anything within city limits, fully enclosing containers for all firearms and replica-firearm BB/Pellet guns is a requirement too (locked if a genuine handgun).

INSIDE your house (or fenced yard [inaccessible to the public, i.e. latched/locked gate in front?], front or back), or outside of incorporated areas is the only time you can open carry, depending on County laws, AFAIK, but you can conceal carry on your own property within the constraints I stated too.

wjc
10-08-2013, 10:17 PM
You do realize the OP is not part of this conversation, right?

ChrisC
10-09-2013, 6:46 AM
Drug-addict Democrats, want to protect other drug-addict Democrats, no matter what crimes they commit. They want criminals to be able to do whatever they want, including rape, and violent assault. We have no open carry of anything within city limits, fully enclosing containers for all firearms and replica-firearm BB/Pellet guns is a requirement too (locked if a genuine handgun).

INSIDE your house (or fenced yard [inaccessible to the public, i.e. latched/locked gate in front?], front or back), or outside of incorporated areas is the only time you can open carry, depending on County laws, AFAIK, but you can conceal carry on your own property within the constraints I stated too.

You do realize that is was Ronald Reagan who put the first nail in the open carry coffin, right? Not a drug-addict democrat, and what a stupid thing to say. And you wonder why anti gun folks think we are idiots, it is because of statements like yours.

the86d
10-10-2013, 3:39 AM
You do realize that is was Ronald Reagan who put the first nail in the open carry coffin, right? Not a drug-addict democrat, and what a stupid thing to say. And you wonder why anti gun folks think we are idiots, it is because of statements like yours.

...and the KKK WAS comprised of Democrats. Republicans were formed from the Anti-Slavery movement, but let's bring up some old sh@+.

The truth is that there is ZERO reason to ban firearms, and it is ALWAYS Democrats that try to sign away 95%(?) of our liberties that are taken daily.

It is evident that the Democratic party as a whole want women to piss their pants, or just take a rape or beating, rather than shoot a violent person committing a violent crime against another human. If not, then they would have opposition within the party for all the crap they say, so it is accepted within the party, like gun control, however illogical it is in reality.

Democrats push legislation to take some currently legal firearm-related right away EVERY 6 MONTHS OR SO IN THIS STATE (or less). They exempt themselves for the "one law for them, another for us", which most non-Democrats rarely do.

Let's talk about what effects us in the last say 24 years that I have noticed, even before being a firearm owner:
Clinton AW Ban (proven a failure)
Jerry Brown allows ban of open carry of handguns without veto
Jerry Brown allows ban of open carry of long guns without veto
Jerry Brown seems to allow any other firearm legislation to pass unless people are completely storming every possible communication, non-stop to SEE what happens.

The ONLY thing Democrats do is allow is create laws that limit liberty, and allow laws specifically for the smallest percentage of society, people who are so few and far between... like transgendered that want to use the women's restroom. All they do is feel-good, with ZERO thought of the actual-ramifications.

I cannot even walk out to my car with an unloaded gun to see who is breaking into my car, and be ready if they are armed.... legally anymore, and that is some BS they didn't think about, or care about. Criminals have the upper-hand when it comes to Democrat-based laws, PERIOD. EVERY-TIME, WITHOUT-FAIL.

The party uniformly wants people here illegally to just be able to stay, even if they are not willing to become citizens the way immigrants have since the beginning... mob-mentality is what they like, and why non-Democrat protests are typically less violent.

the86d
10-10-2013, 3:44 AM
Don't get me started on Feinstein, Pelosi, or the other more-whack-jobs that have stated they want a complete ban, with themselves exempt.

RudyCakes
11-19-2013, 8:20 AM
I moved to Idaho and carry concealed and open. No problems here but there's a very different mindset than California. They call it "California Mental Illness". I get teased about it all the time when I set my car alarm or remind my girl to not leave her purse in the front seat.
I'd say there's no advantage to open carry over concealed but it's more of a luxury of a truly free man. If you've never ridden a motorcycle without a helmet, while open carrying, and gotten an approving smile from a cop, I invite you to come try it out.

gogohopper
11-19-2013, 8:32 AM
You do realize that is was Ronald Reagan who put the first nail in the open carry coffin, right? Not a drug-addict democrat, and what a stupid thing to say. And you wonder why anti gun folks think we are idiots, it is because of statements like yours.

That record you play has got to be getting pretty worn out by now.

A slim minority of Dem's oppose gun control
A slim minority of Republicans support gun control
A large majority of Dems support gun control
A large majority of Republicans oppose gun control

Your asinine, continual attempts to equate the parties stances on GC is, well, asinine.

Clearly you support the Dems, whether it's because you support unborn children being killed, or have a fantasy that we will become a socialistic Utopian society once all our individual rights are stripped away is a mystery to me.

Just find another record to play, please.

a1c
11-19-2013, 12:30 PM
Jesus. It didn't take long for this thread to go completely off the rails.

ccmc
11-19-2013, 12:45 PM
I've spent time in Arizona and Oklahoma, both states where OC is legal, and didn't see a single person open carrying. In Arizona it might have been because I was in Tucson which has a fairly high number of anti-gun democrats by Arizona standards. I was pretty much everywhere in Oklahoma from OKC westward to the New Mexico state line in the panhandle and in the southwest to the Texas line. Since I didn't see anyone else open carrying in towns and cities I open carried only while I was hiking. The few people i ran into didn't bat an eye even though I was carrying a full size handgun (G22).

Mitch
11-20-2013, 6:22 AM
Jesus. It didn't take long for this thread to go completely off the rails.

I loves me the Calguns ignore feature.

edfardos
11-26-2013, 7:02 AM
Because OC is the right guaranteed by the constitution. States can limit CC if they want to. This is the position of the US Supreme Court.

“This is the right guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States, and which is calculated to incite men to a manly and noble defense of themselves, if necessary, and of their country, without any tendency to secret advantages and unmanly assassinations.”” – US Supreme Court – District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)

The California Legislature is guilty of Sedition and Conspiracy of Sedition.

I refuse to pay for rights (every 2 years). At least until CNN/Fox are required to pay for their 1st Ammendment protections of course.

but, that's just me,
-edfardos