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BTAzombieHunter
10-06-2013, 3:36 PM
I would love to be able to drop $5-7000 on a bad *** bolt gun but thats not really feasable for me. So what i would like to know is whats available i would like a .308 box fed bolt rifle for 1200-1500. build vs buy options, any info would be great.

sbcfd
10-06-2013, 3:40 PM
What's the main purpose for the gun? Range toy, hunting

smittty
10-06-2013, 3:44 PM
It sounds like the op is looking for a zombie sniper rifle.

Merc1138
10-06-2013, 3:47 PM
I would love to be able to drop $5-7000 on a bad *** bolt gun but thats not really feasable for me. So what i would like to know is whats available i would like a .308 box fed bolt rifle for 1200-1500. build vs buy options, any info would be great.

"tactical" doesn't describe what you actually want to do with it. I really doubt you're going to be doing some urban sniping like a pd swat team. What do you actually plan on doing with it? Does your $1200-$1500 budget include glass?

BTAzombieHunter
10-06-2013, 3:47 PM
smittty nailed it... the ability to hit a zombie sized target at 1000yards would be the goal.

BTAzombieHunter
10-06-2013, 3:49 PM
merchants glassociation not included in the budget but iterested in hearing budget options.

Merc1138
10-06-2013, 3:50 PM
merchants glassociation not included in the budget but iterested in hearing budget options.

English, do you speak it?

postal
10-06-2013, 4:10 PM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=793300

BTAzombieHunter
10-06-2013, 4:16 PM
sorry predictive text strikes again! glass is not included in the budget but i am interested in hearing budget options.

postal
10-06-2013, 4:24 PM
Whats the budget for glass?

Siberian23
10-06-2013, 4:35 PM
Check out the savage 10 fcp McMillan. Sounds like exactly what you are looking for. Or a remmy 700 and pick a stock and dbm. Then pick out your choice of optics in your price range. A 10-15x on the high end will take you out to 1000. You can go with more magnification as you wish.

vliberatore
10-06-2013, 4:40 PM
sorry predictive text strikes again! glass is not included in the budget but i am interested in hearing budget options.

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russ69
10-06-2013, 4:46 PM
I'm going to give some unusual advice. Go down to the gun store and buy the first rifle that you think you might like. Then just go out and shoot it. After a year of working on your marksmanship you'll know what you like and what you don't like. Hopefully you will have learned how to handload, read the wind and hold the center of the target.

TMB 1
10-06-2013, 4:51 PM
I think the Mosin-Nagant would make a very good zombie rifle for the beginner.
Maybe put it in a Archangel stock.

Raralith
10-06-2013, 4:52 PM
I would recommend a Remington 700. Based on your budget, and the need of a "tactical rifle," a Remington 700P LTR for $975 at my local dealer. Here's a link with the data -> http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=5739&mfg=Remington&mdl=700P&cat=All&type=All&cal=308&fin=&sit=&zipcode=91776

Otherwise, you could buy the cheapest Remington 700 and build it from there:
- Shorten barrel
- New bolt handle
- Threaded with muzzle break
- Aftermarket stock
- Trigger job
- Magazine setup
That would probably put you in the ~$1,400.

Lucky Scott
10-06-2013, 4:54 PM
I recommend you go to the range and talk to some of the guys shooting and see what they have and what you like. Look at the For Sale section here on this site and start learning about what you like. You need to learn what you like before you spend. Look for a good package deal with a scope.
If I was you, I would pick up a used remington 700 in a caliber that you like (Whole discussion involved on caliber choice) .223 would be cheaper
Then, upgrade the stock and install a mag bottom metal kit. Shoot, shoot, shoot! The longer you shoot the more you will know.

Lucky Scott
10-06-2013, 4:57 PM
"Otherwise, you could buy the cheapest Remington 700 and build it from there:
- Shorten barrel
- New bolt handle
- Threaded with muzzle break
- Aftermarket stock
- Trigger job
- Magazine setup
That would probably put you in the ~$1,400."


Right there! That's what I am talking about. That is what I am doing right now.

CK_32
10-06-2013, 5:15 PM
Have you ever shot last 600 yards? It's quite a task especially with a $1200 total rifle budget.

Being you want a cool zombie rifle just get a cheap 700 and buy cool parts and stay in budget. But I doubt you'll have a 1k shooter.


If maybe you raise your budget a little you might be able to get a decent 800 yard shooter. But it won't be "zombie cool" with your budget that's a bit tough.


So what I'm saying is your goin to have to compromise some where and either settle for looks or settle for performance. Unless you raise your budget a little.

Hope this helps some.

Raralith
10-06-2013, 7:24 PM
Have you ever shot last 600 yards? It's quite a task especially with a $1200 total rifle budget.

Being you want a cool zombie rifle just get a cheap 700 and buy cool parts and stay in budget. But I doubt you'll have a 1k shooter.


If maybe you raise your budget a little you might be able to get a decent 800 yard shooter. But it won't be "zombie cool" with your budget that's a bit tough.


So what I'm saying is your goin to have to compromise some where and either settle for looks or settle for performance. Unless you raise your budget a little.

Hope this helps some.

I'm shooting 600 yards with a $900 rifle. Almost every Remington 700 should be able to do 600 yards stock, out of the box, with match ammo and good shooter and spotter; the 700 is just a great rifle out of the box.

Bottom line: a good gun helps, a really good gun helps more, but it doesn't compensate for a bad shooter. Buy a gun, learn to reload, develop a load, and shoot often; this is what matters.
- Shorten barrel: not going to make you shoot better, but making it short is what tactical means
- New bolt handle: not going to make you shoot better, but it will help you not scrape your thumb
- Threaded with muzzle break: not going to make you shoot better, but it will help with recoil
- Aftermarket stock: free floating the barrel takes out a variable, and helps with consistency
- Trigger job: may help with creep and grittiness, may only help you shoot better if you are pulling your shots
- Magazine setup: not going to make you shoot better, but will make loading easier
Fundamentals is what is important.

smittty
10-06-2013, 8:30 PM
smittty nailed it... the ability to hit a zombie sized target at 1000yards would be the goal.

You need to rethink your criteria. Only head shots kill a zombies! Average zombie head is 6" wide x 9" tall. Typical zombie encounters happen between 0-25 yards. Zombie defense strategy should include AR 15 and a semi-auto pistol for back-up.

They are nocturnal therefore are rarely spotted at long distances.

The zombie sniper rifle is a specialized offensive weapon. Are you sure your ready for one?

james758
10-06-2013, 9:00 PM
Used R-700.
1st-Get and AICS chassis. (this allows you to free float the barrel WITHOUT bedding the stock and lets you get a "custom" cheek weld and length of pull and allows you to use AICS mags without changing the "bottom betal").
2nd- Get a Jewell trigger or similar (may need to make clearance in the chassis for it to fit).
3rd-Invest in HIGH QUALITY AMMO, get a few hundred rounds of the Hornady match grade stuff and SAVE YOUR BRASS so you can get into reloading and customize your loads. Don't spend $2k+ on a rifle and then be like "Oh, this ammo is $0.10 cheaper per round." You get a turbo chargered Audi, you put the premium gas in it.
4th-Save up your pennies for a match grade barrel (Bartlein or Kreiger), have a gunsmith turn, chamber, intall for you once you get "good" with it. Make sure to get a "heavy" contour and shorten it to no more than 22" and get a twist rate that is optimized for heavier loads (bow-chica-bow-wow) as the heavier/slower bullets maintain more velocity/energy over longer distances.
5th-graduate to getting a Surgeon action or similar.
As far as glass goes, its an intigral part of the "long range precision shooting system" which includes: Glass, Gun, Ammo & Shooter. You might want to spend almost as much on the glass as you do for the rilfle. If you get a turbo charged Audi, dont put the $50 Costco tires on it.
Good luck, and may the force be with you.

tacticalcity
10-06-2013, 9:06 PM
Remington 700 AAC-SD 20" Barrel .308 Rifle is probably the next bolt action rifle to be joining my collection. Seems to fit what the OP is looking for. My local shop has them for $750. Figure $850 out the door. Then you have some money left in the budget for 20moa mount, some steel rings, and a SWFA 10X Super Sniper Scope. Down the road when have more money you can upgrade the stock and glass if you wish. In the mean time you have a nice rifle on budget.

desert dog
10-06-2013, 9:36 PM
Remington 700 AAC-SD 20" Barrel .308 Rifle is probably the next bolt action rifle to be joining my collection. Seems to fit what the OP is looking for. My local shop has them for $750.

Yep. I put this one together for my youngest son and it is in the OP's price range. The AAC-SD is the BEST budget platform to build with. This one shot under MOA after it was dropped into the Medalist M40 stock:

http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab237/mstranglr/gatz/DSC00666.jpg (http://s867.photobucket.com/user/mstranglr/media/gatz/DSC00666.jpg.html)


I built this one off of another AAC-SD for just a few hundred more than the OP's budget (not including optic), but it is amazingly light and accurate. McMillan Game scout stock, Badger M5, Badger rail and rings, Badger knob, Timney trigger, Ceracote Coyote, and I cut the barrel down to 17" and threaded and re-crowned. Only 8.3# with optic.

http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab237/mstranglr/gatz/2beb299d-15df-4a8a-931a-2679e67ff4fe.jpg (http://s867.photobucket.com/user/mstranglr/media/gatz/2beb299d-15df-4a8a-931a-2679e67ff4fe.jpg.html)

Another AAC-SD that I bought for my oldest son and dropped into an AICS chassis. This is an incredible shooter.

http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab237/mstranglr/gatz/DSC00627.jpg (http://s867.photobucket.com/user/mstranglr/media/gatz/DSC00627.jpg.html)

Video of me hitting steel at 1100 yards with it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq6-Ky3D1Rc

And you get a 1:10 twist varmint barrel with this gun that really launches 175 grainers great out of the short barrels. Toss the POS Houge stock that comes with it and get a good stock for a great starter platform.

rm1911
10-06-2013, 11:15 PM
They [zombies] are nocturnal therefore are rarely spotted at long distances.

I beg to differ. They are active during the day. Could you please cite your source.

tacticalcity
10-06-2013, 11:29 PM
Smitty needs to watch more zombie movies. He has them confused with vampires and werewolves.

This clip seems on topic.

TS6_Y6r5r-8

smittty
10-07-2013, 10:28 PM
I beg to differ. They are active during the day. Could you please cite your source.

When I took the Zombie Hunting Safety Class this topic was covered in the manual, page 63. I remember it. You guys are getting your zombie knowledge from Hollywood!

Also, the back of my zombie tag states valid hunting times are 1/2 hr before sunset to 1/2 after sunrise.

Renaissance Redneck
10-08-2013, 7:26 AM
bow-chica-bow-wow!!! :cool2:

I don't think I've ever seen that in print before! 70's porn soundtrack at its finest! :oji:

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Arnelcheeze
10-17-2013, 2:25 PM
Yep. I put this one together for my youngest son and it is in the OP's price range. The AAC-SD is the BEST budget platform to build with. This one shot under MOA after it was dropped into the Medalist M40 stock:

http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab237/mstranglr/gatz/DSC00666.jpg (http://s867.photobucket.com/user/mstranglr/media/gatz/DSC00666.jpg.html)


I built this one off of another AAC-SD for just a few hundred more than the OP's budget (not including optic), but it is amazingly light and accurate. McMillan Game scout stock, Badger M5, Badger rail and rings, Badger knob, Timney trigger, Ceracote Coyote, and I cut the barrel down to 17" and threaded and re-crowned. Only 8.3# with optic.

http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab237/mstranglr/gatz/2beb299d-15df-4a8a-931a-2679e67ff4fe.jpg (http://s867.photobucket.com/user/mstranglr/media/gatz/2beb299d-15df-4a8a-931a-2679e67ff4fe.jpg.html)

Another AAC-SD that I bought for my oldest son and dropped into an AICS chassis. This is an incredible shooter.

http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab237/mstranglr/gatz/DSC00627.jpg (http://s867.photobucket.com/user/mstranglr/media/gatz/DSC00627.jpg.html)

Video of me hitting steel at 1100 yards with it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq6-Ky3D1Rc

And you get a 1:10 twist varmint barrel with this gun that really launches 175 grainers great out of the short barrels. Toss the POS Houge stock that comes with it and get a good stock for a great starter platform.

Very nice collection.

6mmintl
10-23-2013, 5:09 PM
I think you going to have to go over to the Semi-Auto Forum and ask the operators there what they are using for Zombie hunting.

We tend to think of ourselves here as "Riflemen" with mid/long range experience/expectations.

tacticalcity
10-23-2013, 5:22 PM
I think you going to have to go over to the Semi-Auto Forum and ask the operators there what they are using for Zombie hunting.

We tend to think of ourselves her as "Riflemen" with mid/long range experience/expectations.

Says the guy with an AK47 in his avatar. I think there is a saying about glasses houses that applies here. Just sayin'. ;)

6mmintl
10-23-2013, 7:08 PM
Says the guy with an AK47 in his avatar. I think there is a saying about glasses houses that applies here. Just sayin'. ;)

Im not an operator in the current sense let alone 44 years ago.

The avatar is a photo from 1969, and I don't own an AK but I am a long distance shooter/advocate with the 7.62x39 cartridge, or any cartridge that you push to your/its limits.

Were having a gas gun match at Sac Valley this weekend, come on out and try it, push your limits. ill be shooting my 7.62x39 gun.

LovingTheYear1911
10-23-2013, 9:38 PM
I went with a savage 308 with the accu trigger. Absolutely no creep and breaks clean. I replaced the barrel with a McGowens precision barrel, b&c free float stock, rock mount bipod, and put a bushnell elite scope. I love the thing.

Inuvik
10-24-2013, 11:06 AM
I have an FN, and really like it. I think the SPR A1 would just squeek in at the top of your budget. They use the controlled feed Winchester action FYI.

http://www.fnhusa.com/l/products/rifles/spr-series/spr-a1/

postal
10-24-2013, 12:56 PM
I went with a savage 308 with the accu trigger. Absolutely no creep and breaks clean. I replaced the barrel with a McGowens precision barrel, b&c free float stock, rock mount bipod, and put a bushnell elite scope. I love the thing.

You might want to use a toothpick and apply a little blue loktite to the trigger pull adjustment screw....

They can walk over time... lightening the pull until the sear stops holding. It wont fire even if you cock the bolt and the sear slips, because the safety in the accutrigger blocks the sear.

I havent heard of other people having this problem, but I did. And a little loktite on a toothpick on the adjustment spring fixed the issue.

sjb269
10-27-2013, 3:19 PM
OP,
Don't forget you must get a Counter Sniper scope in the highest magnification possible.
You will certainly need to spray paint a "punisher" style skull on your new Rifle. For inclusion to the .308 Win 1500 yard club don't forget to reload your own rounds with as much powder as you can stuff in the case and seat the bullet nice and tight.

FYI, I'm kidding about the reloading

janus408
10-28-2013, 8:51 AM
700 AAC-SD in an XLR or McRee.

Bushnell 3.5-21x

Cypriss32
10-28-2013, 9:16 AM
SPS-T, or AAC in 308win. They both can be had for under 650.00. You can buy a decent scope (HDMR or SWFA SS HD) for 1k. TPS makes good mounts, had yet to have them fail or see them fail any were (about $165.00 for bases and rings). Then go shoot your rifle, see HOW YOU LIKE IT. After you have shot a few hundred rounds, do ask around and see if people will let you finger there rifles. That will give you an idea of what stock fits you best. IE: thumb hole (AICS, T5, GAT), Chassis (aics, Mcree, exc) or conventional stock (A1, M40, T2-4, A2-5)

Javierv73
10-28-2013, 9:50 AM
You guys are making me want to get a zombie long range tactical sniper rifle.

One question though. Will this rifle be able to kill zombies at lets say 10-25 yards?

May i suggest a 45 degree off set mount with a eotech or aimpiont. It's only tactical when you have more than one optic.

And also it might need a grip pod and a one point sling.

Jk good luck with your rifle.

postal
10-28-2013, 12:56 PM
Yes. You can shoot 10-25 yds. It takes a little practice. Bring the zoom as low as it goes, dial around a 200-300 dope and give it a try. It depends on how high the centerline of your scope is over the bore centerline.

Our rifles tend to weight a lot already.... Only seen one person with a 2nd optic so far.

Though a lot of people in my club are adding the magpul AFG lately and using it as a palm stop.

We use shooting slings, not shoulder straps.

vincewarde
11-01-2013, 1:38 PM
I was on a tighter budget, so I went with a K31, put it in a Boyd's Laminate stock, bedded it well (with barrel floated, of course), installed a clamp on mount and topped that with a rail adapter. Again, because of my low budget, I went with a cheap Ture Glow 8-24x mil-dot. So far it has exceeded my expectations, including tracking very accurately. It shoots well, right at 1 MOA with surplus GP11 ammo. Handloads probably could improve that.....

Overall, my cost was $500.00-600.00.

cfusionpm
11-01-2013, 2:47 PM
Here's what I built:

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2670/rdqx.jpg

Remington 700 SPS Tactical - $550
Bell & Carlson Tactical Medalist A2 stock - $220
Harris Bipod (forget which model, it swivels and has notched legs) - $100
KRG polymer bolt knob attachment - $30

So without optics, I put in about $900. I chose to go an expensive path for optics, but there are plenty of well-priced alternatives. In fact, I'm trying to sell my NF to pursue one of those paths. :P