View Full Version : Hi-cap .22 tube feeding device?
SmithAndJohnson
01-13-2008, 02:11 PM
PC 12020 lists a couple of exemptions from the hi-cap magazine restrictions.
One such exemption is "a .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device."
I'm relatively new to the world of firearms and I have no idea what is being referenced here - what is a "tube ammunition feeding device" and are there any modern examples still being produced?
I primarily shoot .22 for plinking and target practice so this exemption is very interesting to me!
Guns R Tools
01-13-2008, 02:14 PM
Mostly lever action but some marlin autos use tube fed magazine.
CSACANNONEER
01-13-2008, 02:19 PM
Most pumps, many different bolt actions, almost all lever actions, several semi autos have tube feed magazines. Just look at any "gallery gun" and you will see a tubular magazine just under the barrel.
bwiese
01-13-2008, 02:21 PM
This would allow a rather interesting hi-cap tube-fed mag for a semiauto 223 rifle ;)
Notice that it says "22 caliber" and neither "22LR" or "rimfire".
But yes, this is one of the 'cowboy' rifle exemptions.
Scarecrow Repair
01-13-2008, 02:35 PM
This would allow a rather interesting hi-cap tube-fed mag for a semiauto 223 rifle ;)
Notice that it says "22 caliber" and neither "22LR" or "rimfire".
But yes, this is one of the 'cowboy' rifle exemptions.
Aren't tube magazines for rimfire only, due to the danger of having one round's pointy end snuggling up against another round's primer? Would it be safe with wadcutters or something similar?
Ech0Sierra
01-13-2008, 02:39 PM
I don't think .223 wadcutter will feed very well. Also pointy primer snuggling is a bad idea with the chain reaction.
CSACANNONEER
01-13-2008, 02:42 PM
Aren't tube magazines for rimfire only, due to the danger of having one round's pointy end snuggling up against another round's primer? Would it be safe with wadcutters or something similar?
Have you ever seen a Henry or Winchester lever action? Centerfire tubular mags have been around for a couple years now. Some tube fed guns saw US military service before the War of Northern Aggression ended. You're correct about needing the right type of bullet though. I believe, now, there are new platic tipped "pointy" bullets that are tube friendly.
moulton
01-13-2008, 02:52 PM
Winchester 190's and 290's (checkerd stock model) are semiauto .22LR tube fed rifles. Mine holds 15 22LR rounds and would proably wold 25 .22 Shorts. It is a great little carbine that I like to use for rabbit and squrell hunting
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b22/moulton/IMG_4972.jpg
Mssr. Eleganté
01-13-2008, 02:52 PM
This would allow a rather interesting hi-cap tube-fed mag for a semiauto 223 rifle ;)
With a 26 inch barrel you might be able to fit an 11 round 'high cap" tube mag on the rifle. :p
CSACANNONEER
01-13-2008, 02:54 PM
With a 26 inch barrel you might be able to fit an 11 round 'high cap" tube mag on the rifle. :p
But, could you have several tubular magazines that rotated similar to a revolver? (just thinking out loud)
Ech0Sierra
01-13-2008, 03:05 PM
I remember high capacity "revolving" feeding devices were illegal.
CSACANNONEER
01-13-2008, 07:22 PM
I remember high capacity "revolving" feeding devices were illegal.
How so?
Knauga
01-13-2008, 08:38 PM
revolving ammunition feeding devices are illegal on shotguns... beyond that I don't know of any other restriction.
Scarecrow Repair
01-13-2008, 09:44 PM
Some tube fed guns saw US military service before the War of Northern Aggression ended.
I believe those early Henry and Spencer repeating rifles were rimfire.
porkchop
01-13-2008, 10:56 PM
to the thread starter: the marlin model 60 comes to mind. its a .22 rimfire that feeds from a tube magazine. it's very popular and can be found in just about every store that sells firearms
Guns R Tools
01-13-2008, 11:25 PM
Hornady’s new LEVEREVOLUTION® ammunition with flex-tipped ammo that can be used in tube magazine safely.
I know Marlin came out with 308 lever action based that on ammo.
I don't see why we cannot apply same concept to other 22 rifle cartriged (rim or centerfire) to be fed in lever action or semi that is bull pup design (to have more than 10 rounds).
I remember high capacity "revolving" feeding devices were illegal.
He means: shoot 15 shots, rotate assembly to align a second full tube to fire another 15 shots.
Not: shoot one, rotate, shoot one, in the manner of the "Street Sweeper".
It's only revolving to bring a fresh 15 shot tube into place.
CSACANNONEER
01-14-2008, 06:11 AM
I believe those early Henry and Spencer repeating rifles were rimfire.
I think you're right but, they were tube fed. By the 1870s centerfire rifles with tubular magazines were the best you could get and, it stayed that way for many years.
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