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ziconceo
09-02-2013, 11:04 PM
Hey everyone :) My grandfather got a mosin nagant for some car repair work recently and the metal looks like it has no bluing yet it didn't rust. Its a tula mosin. Anyway, my question is: has anyone ever seen a mosin with grey metal? Is it some kind of coating? It really doesn't look like it was put to a wire wheel. here are some pics.

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i348/ziconceo/IMAG0228_zps7df1307b.jpg

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i348/ziconceo/IMAG0227_zps3f2ca1eb.jpg

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i348/ziconceo/IMAG0388_zpsd596c87a.jpg

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i348/ziconceo/IMAG0389_zpsf5ee0113.jpg

Cadre
09-02-2013, 11:11 PM
hows the rest of it look like?

sffred
09-02-2013, 11:11 PM
Looks like it has been "scotch brite'd" or "steel wool'd". That's the appearance of the "factory blue" being slightly removed. Don't ask me how I know.

ziconceo
09-02-2013, 11:24 PM
Ill put up pics of the rest of it tomorrow. If it was really steel wool'd that would've taken more time than its worth because there isnt a spec of bluing

roflwizard
09-02-2013, 11:38 PM
it's kryptonite, duh.

DennisCA
09-03-2013, 10:57 AM
it's kryptonite, duh.

Must be I was feeling a bit weak when I looked at the pic.....:D

Emdawg
09-03-2013, 11:00 AM
Could have been toyed with.


However, I do not see any refurb marks on it, so you might have gotten lucky and it was a WW2 rifle that never was put through the refurbishment process.

kellyhachihachi
09-03-2013, 11:12 AM
I'll take it :D

ziconceo
09-03-2013, 4:20 PM
@kellyhachihachi sure :) just fork over 400$
and this extremely rare and valuable mosin is yours! :rolleyes:

added some more pics :D

Also, its kind of hard to notice. but the magazine is still blued, however, it does NOT have matching numbers. So, did the Russians ever not coat their guns to save time?

Emdawg
09-03-2013, 9:57 PM
I can't say for sure, but if that is an original service rifle (meaning not refurbed) then it is worth more than a Big 5 special from the same year.

I am sure that the Soviets put a standard bluing over it, but 1943 was a big year for them and I am sure that rifle was put to good use.


Or someone scrubbed the crap out of it, which would be unfortunate.


I think I will go with the latter.

ziconceo
09-03-2013, 11:44 PM
Just inspected it more carefully, the markings ( the date and symbols from the factory) were stamped in such a way that I'm 100% sure they were stamped after all of the scratches from either De-bluing the rifle or what have you. It seems like it really did come back from the factory like this

johnthomas
09-04-2013, 12:44 AM
It looks to me that someone scrubbed it pretty good with some rough steel wool. 0000 wouldn't scratch it like that. does the stock have a square with a line from corner to corner? That would be a refurb.

Marcus von W.
09-04-2013, 12:45 AM
It's a Century import, from Romania if the import mark on the barrel says St. Albans Vt., or Albania if it says Georgia, Vt.

A lot of these were well used and have little to no bluing on the exposed metal. Some dumbass could have "shined it up" in anticipation of smearing on a thick coat of cold poo...I mean, cold goo...no, that's not it - oh yeah, "cold blue". If there is existing blue under the handguard and wood line, it probably got this way while it was in service. If there is not blue under the wood and handguard, Bubba probably got at it in between doing his sister and barnyard animals and romancing guys in canoes down at the river.

Judging from the low wall receiver, it's an earlier receiver - probably from the late 1930's - that was recycled in 1943.

6mmintl
09-04-2013, 8:41 AM
Its a special finish that means nothing, nor enhances/detracts from its overall value.

One of 64 million unique finishes on a Moison rifle.