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HmoobWarrior
09-02-2013, 4:05 PM
For long range hunting. Most accurate caliber for a long range rifle? Any input will be appreciated.

Damiiaaannn
09-02-2013, 4:10 PM
I'm not a hunter, but I'd say either .270 or 30-06.

NapalmCheese
09-02-2013, 4:11 PM
The one you shoot best that maintains sufficient velocity/kinetic energy to cleanly kill your chosen game at your chosen range provided you can put the bullet into the vitals at the range you choose to shoot.

That being said you might want to hop onto another website that is specific to long range hunting and read the articles.

Jason25
09-02-2013, 4:11 PM
kinda vague in your post but .308/30-06 would probably be a good choice to start with.

reidnez
09-02-2013, 4:18 PM
What's long range? What are you trying to hunt? It would help to be a little more specific about what you're trying to do...

In all honesty, there are usually a dozen cartridges that will do a given job more than adequately. There's a little give-and-take no matter what you choose, but there are plenty that will perform well. Don't forget about considerations like recoil, ammunition cost, and the "exotic" factor...personally, I am loathe to buy a firearm chambered in some "latest-and-greatest" cartridge, because you never know whether you'll still be able to get cartridges (or even components) for it in a few years...I'm pretty confident that .30-06, .270 and .30-30 will still be very much with us a century from now, though, because they've made it about that long already (even longer in the case of .30-30) and they remain popular as many others have come and gone.

TMB 1
09-02-2013, 4:27 PM
The one you shoot best that maintains sufficient velocity/kinetic energy to cleanly kill your chosen game at your chosen range provided you can put the bullet into the vitals at the range you choose to shoot.

^
This.

HmoobWarrior
09-02-2013, 4:34 PM
What do you guys think of the Cheytac m200. For all purpose long range hunting? :D

sffred
09-02-2013, 4:39 PM
If I had to guess .338 Lapua. (Its too expensive for me tho')

But if I wanna go cheap I would go 7.62x54r (best long range bang for ur buck IMHO)

thenodnarb
09-02-2013, 5:45 PM
7mm rem mag is what I'll be buying. If I wasn't going with a magnum cartridge, then maybe .270

Czechsix
09-02-2013, 5:56 PM
Most accurate? Hmm.

.338 Lapua, 14.5x115 is also supposed to be nice. 20mm not so accurate.

I hear the 155's are also pretty accurate, but there's that whole crew served, have to have a tow vehicle, ammunition cost thing going on there.

Fjold
09-02-2013, 6:00 PM
It depends on what game you are chasing. The requirements to take a deer, elk or coyote are much different. It also depends on your definition of long range. To some people 300 yards is long range and to others it's 1,000 yards.

Tom-ADC
09-02-2013, 6:13 PM
Good bolt gun in 300 Win mag

ar15barrels
09-02-2013, 6:37 PM
For long range hunting. Most accurate caliber for a long range rifle? Any input will be appreciated.

Define the game first.
What is "long range" to you?

The unknowing answer is that you need a 105mm howitzer.
It might be that you only need a 22-250.

hermosabeach
09-02-2013, 6:44 PM
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NorCalFocus
09-02-2013, 7:27 PM
^^^Excellent video.

Your best bet is 30-06 or 7mm Mag if you're talking large game. Varmint .223 or .308

xibunkrlilkidsx
09-02-2013, 7:35 PM
are we ttryig to hunt elephants at 2000 yards? if s 50bmg
deer or things of that sort. still 50bmg

HK Dave
09-02-2013, 7:37 PM
416 cheytac should get it done. If that doesn't cut it just go 700 nitro express.

DennisCA
09-02-2013, 7:55 PM
For long range hunting. Most accurate caliber for a long range rifle? Any input will be appreciated.

You have to ask:
What type of game you are hunting?
Can you take a magnum caliber?
(If not go with something less like a .270)
What is your idea of long range and can you practice at that distance?
(the more the better)

Also as (Clint Eastwood says) "Every man gots to know his limitations"
My limit is about 300 yards; all though I've killed a deer at 350 but the conditions were perfect and that was with a .270.

toby
09-02-2013, 8:05 PM
So you are not a Hunter I presume but you want to shoot at animals at long range, yes or no?

Altahick
09-02-2013, 8:47 PM
7mm magnum !!!!!!!!!!! awesome ballistics and enough power to knock the crap out of anything

rm1911
09-02-2013, 8:55 PM
Best caliber for hunting is a well placed shot. Animals have neither calipers nor chronographs.

There are many things more important than caliber. The most important factor is the shooter. Start there. The long part of long range is subjective. There are 100's of calibers that work for whatever game you pursue. There are dozens of rifles that will work equally well. Honestly there is no right caliber or necessarily better rifle.

Best advice is go with the most popular and most common rifles and calibers. Why? Because they're the most proven. More deer have been killed with a 30-06 or 30-30 than anything. Are they the best? Yes. And no.

Take the "can't go wrong with" approach.

Capt.Dunsel
09-03-2013, 9:04 AM
For long range hunting. Most accurate caliber for a long range rifle? Any input will be appreciated.

Like others have said , what is long range to you ? And what is the Animal your looking to get ?

My choices for long range for me a 6.5 mm and a 7mm , then there is 218 Bee

6.5 x 257 in an Arisaka and a 7mm in Thompson Center Contender.(deer , pig , yotes)

Smaller critters 218 Bee ( ground squirrels , rabbits ect...)

Pick a critter , pick a caliber , pick the tool to do the job.

MongooseV8
09-03-2013, 9:12 AM
17HMR. We are talking squirrels at 150 yards right?

bitethebullet
09-03-2013, 5:33 PM
.308 would be my choice....from yotes to elk...plus fairly easy on wallet when reloading...

bubbapug1
09-03-2013, 5:53 PM
50 Bmg for varmints

105mm for bigger game over 1 mile

A and O
09-03-2013, 6:12 PM
So you are not a Hunter I presume but you want to shoot at animals at long range, yes or no?

My initial thought as well. Seems like an odd question to me, especially when critical info is missing to give a proper answer.

Sort of like asking which should I get, a Hayabusa or ZX-14? And you have never ridden a Motorcycle before.

It just does not make any sense. If you were/are a hunter you would already know the answer.

Tripeaks69
09-03-2013, 7:38 PM
50 Bmg for varmints

105mm for bigger game over 1 mile

Hahahaha...


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totus44
09-03-2013, 7:59 PM
According to current events, a BGM-109 with 450kg bullpup is about right for long range hunting.

LynnJr
09-06-2013, 9:15 PM
I hunt longrange and the 6mm cartridges under 800 yards don't scare the animals like the bigger 30 calibers do.For 800 and under on blacktails I use a 6mm-06 mainly because I have a large supply of fast twist donor barrels off of my 6br's and 6 Dashers.With 107 Sierra and 57 grains of H1000 and Lapu 30-06 brass I am getting 3433 fps out of a 30 inch barrel with very good accuracy.
If your going past 800 to about 1300 the 300 Weatherby with a 28-30 inch barrel is still a very good choice.Try RE25 RWS 300 H-H brass and the 210 Berger VLD hunting bullets.
Past 1300 yards the 338 line of cartridges get a lot of press but all the ones I have shoot best at 2740 fps to just under 2900 fps and I use barrel lengths most posters here would never use.
I tried the Mach V out and at 700 rounds down the barrel I had 7 inches of one land missing and the velocity and barrel length dictated it use only monolithic solids which at that time were $280 for 100 bullets.4200 fps out of 350 grain 375 caliber bullet in a necked down 50 bmg case that still holds 280+ grains of water and decent accuracy.
I am currently building a 338 Snipe-Tac for 1300 yards+ and using a Tac 408 action and 34 inch Krieger barrel.I expect best accuracy at a touch above 3300 fps with peak velocity right at 3500 fps.Hopefully I will get 1000 rounds out of this barrel.
Longrange hunting is always a touchy subject so feel free to pm me if you have any questions.

Foresight88
09-11-2013, 1:36 PM
I'd say the Russian ML-20 152mm Howitzer. Has a range of up to 10 miles. Not bad.

In all seriousness it depends on what type of game and how far.
.308 will work on anything on this continent (with proper shot placement), though 30-06, 7.62x54r, and 8x57 Mauser have a bit more power and will work as well. All of these options are accurate enough to reach out and touch game at reasonable distances between 500 and 1000 yards. Farther if you know what you're doing and if you are working with a quality weapon system.

If money is no option check out .338 Lapua, or 416 Cheytac.

DennisCA
09-11-2013, 1:44 PM
"6mm cartridges under 800 yards.."

Really????????????

Tanner68
09-11-2013, 1:44 PM
OP, why don't you tell us about your hunting experience, and specifics about your hunting plans. Your question is too vague, and the nature of your post implies that you are likely missing some fundamentals.

russ69
09-11-2013, 2:04 PM
Except for known distance sniping, long range hunting to me means 300/400 yards. Past that and the variables are too great to be sure of good shot placement. In that case most common hunting rounds will do the job.

LynnJr
09-11-2013, 3:43 PM
"6mm cartridges under 800 yards.."

Really????????????\


Really
My father has taken deer at 1053 yards with a 6 Dasher but it suffers from low energy at that distance.Up to 1200 yards a 6mm-06 is a flat shooting very accurate blacktail gun but past 800 I switch to a 300 Weatherby or 300 Ackley for the extra energy.Below 800 yards the big 30's will spook the animal unless you hit high.

the86d
09-11-2013, 3:45 PM
50BMG.

Gutpile66
09-11-2013, 4:34 PM
25 Neidner for anything but moose and grizzly in N. America (35 Whelen for those). Excellent ballistics (comparable to .270 or 7mm), good bullet choices, and you can shoot it all day.

EddieEd
09-11-2013, 9:52 PM
I think these will do

http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/51fa6bed69beddbd3f00001d-480/bigbullets.jpg

A .905

Just don't shoot squirrels with it, might not be much left after unless they are the 2000lbs type.

http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=b82660b47968

Takes a new level to the saying "Go big or go home" :D

NapalmCheese
09-11-2013, 10:52 PM
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Really
My father has taken deer at 1053 yards with a 6 Dasher but it suffers from low energy at that distance.Up to 1200 yards a 6mm-06 is a flat shooting very accurate blacktail gun but past 800 I switch to a 300 Weatherby or 300 Ackley for the extra energy.Below 800 yards the big 30's will spook the animal unless you hit high.

How is an animal getting spooked under 800 yards?

LynnJr
09-12-2013, 5:45 AM
The animals get spooked when the bullet hits around them.The 6mm cartridges using 95-115 grain bullets don't thump the ground like the big 30's shooting 200-240 grain bullets.

therealnickb
09-12-2013, 6:18 AM
Longrange hunting is always a touchy subject so feel free to pm me if you have any questions.

1200 yard hunting?

Sutcliffe
09-12-2013, 11:08 AM
It is ballistic technician's wet dream. Accurate, low recoil, great ballistic coefficient's and sectional density. Only drawback is a lack of popularity in the states.

LynnJr
09-13-2013, 5:56 PM
1200 yard hunting?

Yep 1200 yard hunting.It isn't for everyone and most should not attempt it.

BradleyAbrams
09-14-2013, 11:44 PM
7mm. Nice, flat trajectory

.308 - "Arguably" the best "all purpose" round. < I said " Arguably" >

30-06 - Again, "arguably", most common, most varied all-purpose hunting round. it is found everywhere. from Wal-Mart to the BIG-5 on the Dark Side of the Moon. If you are only going to own ONE Bolt gun, 30-06 would be a wise caliber choice, IMHO.

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