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NapalmCheese
08-29-2013, 4:56 PM
I love my .30-30, I inherited it from my dad in near perfect condition, never been hunted a day in it's life (maybe I'll take it hunting, maybe I won't). I enjoy occasionally shooting it for all sorts of reasons and, as I said, I keep going back and forth about whether I'll take it hunting some day.

That being said, why the sudden resurgence in .30-30 popularity? Ammo is scarce and people are apparently hoarding lever evolution like it's dragon gold. What's the deal?

Is it just that people are frightened that their ARs might get taken away and in searching for a 'high' capacity middle weight cartridge and gun to replace it are flocking to the .30-30 lever guns? I would have thought the .44s and .357s would have been a better fit.

toby
08-29-2013, 5:18 PM
30-30's are just plain COOL and you can't take the cool out of lever action rifles.

NapalmCheese
08-29-2013, 5:52 PM
30-30's are just plain COOL and you can't take the cool out of lever action rifles.



I'll drink to that!
If all goes well in a month I'll have another one (of the .22 variety) to add to the collection.

SonofWWIIDI
08-29-2013, 6:28 PM
30-30's are just plain COOL and you can't take the cool out of lever action rifles.

^^^This^^^

A buddy of mine has a commemorative model winchester he got from his dad. Never been fired. We took it out to the range and had a blast with, literally!

Eljay
08-29-2013, 6:37 PM
A lever action was on my to-buy list for 2013 to get in before long gun registration hit. Finances ended up not allowing it but perhaps others were luckier. Combine that with general shortages...

BajaJames83
08-29-2013, 6:45 PM
Well I usedbto enjoy shooting rifle until I became a ca resident, and all my rifles got nutered with some weird mag release contraptions. ...
Now the only rifle I still shoot and bring to the range regularly is my good old marlin 30-30. That thing never gets old

Henry Shooter
08-29-2013, 6:46 PM
I have a few myself. Just plain fun.

NapalmCheese
08-29-2013, 11:11 PM
Fair enough, I guess we are agreed that they are just fun.

I suppose one of these days I need a Marlin 336 to accompany my Model 94.

Tell you what though, if I happen to find a model 95 in 7.62x54r that might just make me bust out the checkbook. A cool gun with super cheap ammo? Sign me up!

challenger
08-30-2013, 9:43 AM
My wife was to be a huge AR nut before she got her first lever gun. Now she owns a Henry Big Boy .44, Henry 30-30 and an Uberti Yellow Boy .45 Colt. When we go shooting she never brings her ARs anymore only her "cowboy guns."

Ninask
08-30-2013, 9:52 AM
Brass is still cheap,
the 30-30 will hunt a wide spectrum of critterz,
best leverguns chambered in 30-30
enough gun for most situations

deadcoyote
08-30-2013, 10:04 AM
Ammo is really everywhere, i pick it up at yard sales all the time. Also, a .30-30 will pretty much work in most any realistic hunting scenario where I live. I dont mind if people want their high speed low drag hunting rigs, I just find it odd when everybody I know uses a Xcaliber ultra-super-non-banded-short-raptor magnum with a 24x scope for woods hunting where you might shoot to 150 yards once every 5 years.

the longest shot I've taken on a deer ended up ranging to 179 yards and I did it with a 7mm mauser mil surp rifle with handloaded nosler projectiles and iron sights.

controlled_burst
08-30-2013, 10:14 AM
My Marlin 30-30 was handed down from my step dad to me, it oozes cool from every pore.

CB

Mute
08-30-2013, 10:20 AM
I've taken more game with my .30-30 Winchester than any other rifle I own. They're light and handy in the field. What's not to love?

CSACANNONEER
08-30-2013, 10:42 AM
I have 3 pre '64 '94s and a Handi rifle in 30-30. What's not to love about them?

Untamed1972
08-30-2013, 12:02 PM
My dads 30-30 winchester kicks like that friggin' team of mules. A dozen rounds will literally leave you bruised.

tacksman
08-30-2013, 12:10 PM
Because the 30-30 lever gun is the ****.
Even Larry Potterfield says so....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5A6Ot1zJDY

nastyhabts26
08-30-2013, 12:31 PM
I love lever guns.
There is that cool nostalgic feel to them.
I dont have a 30-30 right now, but I do have a 45-70 fun to shoot can knock down a water buffalo, but expensive to feed ammo to.

Armando de la Guerra
08-30-2013, 12:33 PM
My Marlin 336=Hillbilly Assault Weapon.

CSACANNONEER
08-30-2013, 12:33 PM
My dads 30-30 winchester kicks like that friggin' team of mules. A dozen rounds will literally leave you bruised.

Not if you shoulder it correctly.

gun toting monkeyboy
08-30-2013, 12:49 PM
One of the reasons they are suddenly popular again is because people could find ammo for them when the panic hit. Every Wallyworld out there had boxes of it on the shelves far longer than most other centerfire rifle rounds. And it is the cheapest deer cartridge available in most places. Up until about 2 years ago, it was still under $10/box of 20 soft points. I like them. They are good rifles. And don't forget that there are other .30-30s out there other than lever actions. One of the most popular entry level hunting rifles for decades was the Stevens/Savage bolt action .30-30s.

-Mb

3006mv
08-30-2013, 1:44 PM
you should reload this caliber, i do and it is one of my favorites. i dont cast for it but i have 1000 plated 150 gr bullets and is my current plinker.
oh and you can load .224 cal accelerators w/ a sabot

diverwcw
08-30-2013, 1:49 PM
Word to the wise about lever action rifles. Either loctite the screws or tighten them up from time to time. They have a tendency to back out.

Same goes with any firearm that has screws, I saw a guy shooting a single action revolver on the range one time and it fell apart in his hand. He admitted he had never tightened up any of the screws.

I'm in agreement with many posts, a 30-30 is pretty cool. If you end up using it for HD, SHTF or a zombie killer, the first thing somebody thinks when they see it is "A cowboy gun" not a "assault weapon."

mark501w
08-30-2013, 4:25 PM
American tradition,real cannons !

TMB 1
08-30-2013, 5:33 PM
One of the reasons they are suddenly popular again is because people could find ammo for them when the panic hit. Every Wallyworld out there had boxes of it on the shelves far longer than most other centerfire rifle rounds. And it is the cheapest deer cartridge available in most places. Up until about 2 years ago, it was still under $10/box of 20 soft points. I like them. They are good rifles. And don't forget that there are other .30-30s out there other than lever actions. One of the most popular entry level hunting rifles for decades was the Stevens/Savage bolt action .30-30s.

-Mb

Yep I really like my old lever's but my Savage 340 is my most accurate 30-30.

Tom-ADC
08-30-2013, 5:45 PM
More years ago then I care to remember, I shot my first deer with a Savage 340 in 30-30.

five.five-six
08-30-2013, 6:00 PM
[i have] never been hunted a day in it's life.


If some day you are hunted, always remember: tere hanges!




30-30 is a great and versatile round. There are almost endless loads for it.

NapalmCheese
08-31-2013, 9:13 AM
you should reload this caliber, i do and it is one of my favorites. i dont cast for it but i have 1000 plated 150 gr bullets and is my current plinker.

I've been kicking around the idea of making up some cast gallery loads. I don't cast, but cast bullets are cheap and Red Dot is cheap and easy to find. Similar to the 'universial load' I've seen a few recipes Red Dot and cast bullets at 1600 fps or so IIRC. A little Red Dot and a light cast bullet would be a fine small game load too I would think.

Tom-ADC
08-31-2013, 9:47 AM
I probably shouldn't post this but I have a as nib 336W made in 2009 its a Marlin made in New Haven with a JM marked barrel does have the crossbolt safety I have never shot it and I don't believe the person I got it from did either.
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TMB 1
08-31-2013, 4:37 PM
More years ago then I care to remember, I shot my first deer with a Savage 340 in 30-30.

I got my first deer with Remington's version of the 30-30. The rimless 30 Remington. I think it would be more popular today if Remington still made rifles for it.

deadcoyote
08-31-2013, 8:44 PM
I just wanted to add I also use a savage Stevens type model, an original 325 with the butter knife handle. It shoots MOA at 100, which is phenomenal for a 30-30, but has some weird point of impact issues when switching between 150 grain and 170 grain ammo. Both shoot excellent, just odd the the POI is like 12" different at 100 yards. Maybe that's what I get for buying so much old ammo from yard sales.

CGT80
09-01-2013, 8:42 PM
I've been kicking around the idea of making up some cast gallery loads. I don't cast, but cast bullets are cheap and Red Dot is cheap and easy to find. Similar to the 'universial load' I've seen a few recipes Red Dot and cast bullets at 1600 fps or so IIRC. A little Red Dot and a light cast bullet would be a fine small game load too I would think.

6.0 grains of Red Dot under a 159 grain lead round nose plain base boolit, all loaded in a 30-30 case with a large rifle primer, will fly out the other end of my 30-30 Winchester at 1116 fps. I can nail a 12" steel plate over and over at 100 yards with that bunny fart load. Oh yea........it costs me 4 bucks or so to cast and load a hundred of those rounds.

The 170 grain jacketed bullets over a full load of 4895 are pretty stout, but still probably not as bad as a full power load from my Winchester 54 rifle chambered in 30-06.

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k484/CGT80/30-30.jpg

NapalmCheese
09-02-2013, 3:16 PM
6.0 grains of Red Dot under a 159 grain lead round nose plain base boolit, all loaded in a 30-30 case with a large rifle primer, will fly out the other end of my 30-30 Winchester at 1116 fps. I can nail a 12" steel plate over and over at 100 yards with that bunny fart load. Oh yea........it costs me 4 bucks or so to cast and load a hundred of those rounds.


Yuppers, that sounds like tons of fun!

3006mv
09-02-2013, 7:17 PM
Ha ha that is my load with plated 150s. Accurate and low recoil. I have taken rabbits and squirrels with it. I should find a good mold and do these up myself but I don't want to mess with gas checks

BroncoBob
09-02-2013, 7:25 PM
I got 2 - 30-30 Marlins. One I bought back in the early 90's and the one my dad bought in the 60's. I've used both for hunting and found them to be great bush guns.

mjmagee67
09-02-2013, 7:28 PM
Lever Guns are the real Zombie Killers. I own several, 1898 Win 94 Rifle, 1946 Win 94 Carbine both 30 WCF, Marlin 39A 1956 and Marlin 1894 357 1984 (pre crossbolt) Luv them all! Want more.

rm1911
09-02-2013, 8:02 PM
6.0 grains of Red Dot under a 159 grain lead round nose plain base boolit, all loaded in a 30-30 case with a large rifle primer, will fly out the other end of my 30-30 Winchester at 1116 fps. I can nail a 12" steel plate over and over at 100 yards with that bunny fart load. Oh yea........it costs me 4 bucks or so to cast and load a hundred of those rounds.

The 170 grain jacketed bullets over a full load of 4895 are pretty stout, but still probably not as bad as a full power load from my Winchester 54 rifle chambered in 30-06.

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k484/CGT80/30-30.jpg

Or 10gr unique. Lots of fun. The looks too at the range when a big gun goes "pop" instead of "BOOM" :):)

Find some trail boss. Works great with jacketed bullets as well.

NapalmCheese
09-02-2013, 8:39 PM
Ha ha that is my load with plated 150s. Accurate and low recoil. I have taken rabbits and squirrels with it. I should find a good mold and do these up myself but I don't want to mess with gas checks

So, I don't know a whole lot about cast loads, but at 1100 or 1200 fps, couldn't you use a plain bullet without a gas check?

CGT80
09-02-2013, 8:42 PM
I should find a good mold and do these up myself but I don't want to mess with gas checks

I am running my 30-30 cast boolits without gas checks, at 1116 fps. It is a plain base mold. The velocity is so slow that they don't lead the barrel.

Or 10gr unique. Lots of fun. The looks too at the range when a big gun goes "pop" instead of "BOOM" :):)
Find some trail boss. Works great with jacketed bullets as well.

Yeah...people are like what the heck, when a big old 30-06 chuck of brass flies out of my bolt gun and they only hear a pop from the 13.0 grains of red dot and the 150 grain jacketed bullet (1400 fps).



I loaded the 30-06 with 150 jacketed bullets and trail boss and got 1200 fps. It was very tame. I have a bunch of red dot so I use that now. I save the Trail Boss for my light 460 Mag loads. I run a cast 270 grain hollow point plain base out of my x frame xvr at around 1,000 fps with trail boss. It is fun to shoot double action with it and I never get tired from the light recoil, but the weight of the gun eventually gets me.

The only down side to my trail boss and A5744 loads in the 460 is the soot. I have to clean the gun with stainless polish after each day out as it gets covered in black soot. Gun cleaner doesn't remove it, but a few minutes with liquid polish cleans it right up, of course I have spent hours polishing it, so now it really has a shine rather than the brushed finish. I like it.

You should see people's eyes when the see an x frame and run for cover, because they "know" there will be a big boom, and then they hear a little pop from a 45 colt load or 460 with trail boss. Then I throw in some 300 grain xtp mags with a buttload of win 296 behind them and give them what they were expecting, when they least expect it :43:

Whiterabbit
09-04-2013, 3:11 PM
and you can't take the cool out of lever action rifles.

I can't disagree. But Mossberg on the other hand, found a way!

http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/mossberg464spx011.jpg

five.five-six
09-04-2013, 3:18 PM
I can't disagree. But Mossberg on the other hand, found a way!

http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/mossberg464spx011.jpg

kill it with fire.

NapalmCheese
09-04-2013, 4:08 PM
Every time I see that I 'vurp'...

BCA142
09-04-2013, 4:19 PM
My dad bought a pair of Winchester .30-.30 back in 1978. I kept one and sent the second to my nephew so he would have one of his grandfathers guns. Unfortunately he was only 1 when my dad passed away. These are fun rifles for sure.

mark501w
09-05-2013, 1:39 PM
winchester

urbanfood
09-05-2013, 8:45 PM
I inherited a 4 rifles from my dad including a 30 30 marlin and a 30 30 bolt action remington. looks like i need to learn how to shoot them ;)

Whiterabbit
09-06-2013, 7:46 AM
I'm dissapointed that you dont already know how to shoot them. They are your FATHERS RIFLES!

And unless you are like that douche on NPR's 'perspectives' (and you are on calguns, so you are not.) who destroyed his father's 20ga single shot so that "his son won't be a part of this wave of gun violence sweeping the nation", then when you instill American Values into your son, he will be passing his GREAT-GRANDFATHER'S 30-30's to his own sons. How amazing would that be.

ChrisC
09-06-2013, 7:50 AM
My dads 30-30 winchester kicks like that friggin' team of mules. A dozen rounds will literally leave you bruised.

You should try my 45/70 trapdoor, most only shoot it a couple times. Especially when I am loaded up with black powder! And I love my Winchester 94 30/30, but that kick is nothing compared to my trapdoor.

3006mv
09-06-2013, 6:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI4v_8gjW04

TMB 1
09-06-2013, 6:56 PM
You should try my 45/70 trapdoor, most only shoot it a couple times. Especially when I am loaded up with black powder! And I love my Winchester 94 30/30, but that kick is nothing compared to my trapdoor.

You should try a Ruger #3 45/70 with Ruger only loads:D

RCJeeper
09-06-2013, 11:35 PM
I have a 336.

Thinking I should get a Winchester.

Love that thuty-thuty

Rideordie805
09-08-2013, 11:29 PM
Got my first buck last year with my Winchester 30-30. Got him right between the shoulders. Got a box of those Winchester 95/5 bullets. Devastating round! Blew a hole bigger than my fist out his neck. My go to rifle. the original semi auto. I have to agree with ChrisC my dad has a 45/70 sharps, 30in Octagon barrel, that thing will throw your shoulder out. If you have not seen Quigley Down Under you haven't lived.

Kokopelli
09-09-2013, 4:39 AM
Anyone else remember Gemco? Back in the 1970's they sold the Winchester 94 in 30-30 for $125. Here's my 1975. I love this gun!

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk239/avmusician/Guns/IMG_1365.jpg

ChrisC
09-09-2013, 12:35 PM
I remember Gemco, use to shop their with my mom as a kid.

Tom-ADC
09-09-2013, 12:43 PM
My Marlin 1894 is a Gemco rifle way back when.

Foresight88
09-09-2013, 1:00 PM
That tacticool lever gun hurts my eyes.

I love all my lever guns! They definitely still have their place. 45-70 lever action never gets old. BOOM!

bigchelis
09-09-2013, 8:07 PM
Lever Actions are just cool and the Forrest Rangers don't give you the eye like a Ar15/AK47.

5lbs of furry with 6 rounds of 45-70 in a 31 inch over all length. Ready to kill from both ends: my next will be a 30-30 and 357mag
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/bigchelis/null_zps65c48d59.jpg

Rideordie805
09-09-2013, 11:47 PM
Don't mean to steal this thread but what do you guys think about the marlin lever actions? I love the looks of the Marlin model 338 MXLR!

TackyDriver
09-10-2013, 12:59 AM
I too am frustrated by the unavailability of 30-30 ammo now. The only thing I can figure is that the demand for ammo in other calibers is causing a shift in production priority to those calibers. Couple that with the demand for 30-30 for deer hunting east of here with the approach of Fall and I can understand how it's scarce.

I don't reload but when I start, I'll begin with 30-30. Reloading will really make sense if I start playing with 30-30 Improved. A T/C Encore pistol in that caliber would be great.

I have an early 60's Marlin 336 RC. Haven't hunted with it yet but have a hoot shooting it. Hope to use it for a javelina hunt in AZ some day before I get hit by a bus.

ar15robert
09-12-2013, 7:17 PM
My dad bought one around 1977-78 a 30-30 winchester.I never got to shoot til about 87 it was afun gun.He gave it to me around 94 and he passed in 04.It still one of my favorites to shoot.I dont shoot it as much but i take it evry trip.It brings a big smile to my face when i shoot it.

I also plan to pass down to my son or daughter so they can pass it on down as well

RAMCHARGER
09-19-2013, 8:33 AM
In my marlin 336 I would load Speer 110 grain soft points for M1 Carbines, over some 3031 powder. Great plinking load.

milotrain
09-19-2013, 10:06 AM
with a lever gun you don't chase your brass. You just pop and catch. Lever guns are handy and quick to point. They are eager little rifles that shoot well when loaded for correctly. There are very few things they don't do well, and they are fantastic in the field light and easy to carry. With a halfcock hammer there is nothing I'd rather have on a woods walk.

Capybara
09-19-2013, 2:15 PM
Just added this one to the family, I am quickly falling in love with it, it is just so freaking cool, it oozes character

1951 Winchester Model 1894 in .30-30

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/capybara84/DSCN0788_zpsbad2e3c5.jpg

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/capybara84/DSCN0787_zps88c910af.jpg

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/capybara84/DSCN0786_zps98479066.jpg

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/capybara84/DSCN0794_zps2f9beafa.jpg

Kokopelli
09-19-2013, 3:42 PM
Nice one Capybara!

XVIga_Rob
09-19-2013, 7:45 PM
Got a little .30-30 (Win94) love after work today!! Picked up a box of Federal 170's from wally world at lunch. Couldn't resist.

Tagging steel plate @ 100yds. Like ringing a bell! :43: Might have made the boy's a couple lanes over sighting in their bolt gun & scope, a little jealous.

BlairB
09-19-2013, 7:54 PM
I, like many others, am also a little frustrated with the difficulty in finding ammo. Hopefully when things mellow out availability and price become more reasonable!

mark501w
09-19-2013, 8:55 PM
reload for it, been shooting it all along.

G-Solutions
09-20-2013, 12:24 PM
The 30-30 lever actions are just plain and simple all-around good guns that don't raise an eyebrow.

The 30-30 is ballistically very close to the 7.62x39 - enough Oomph to take down a deer or a two-legged predator. They also don't weigh a lot, which makes them very easy to log around.

What I really appreciate from a self-defense/tactical point of view is that they are ambidextrous. One can switch shoulders and still work the action lighting fast, which is not possible with a bolt-action.

I've been teaching combat rifle classes with partial or full focus on the levergun for the last three years. In one case I had a levergun run next to an AR in a dynamic class setting (moving lateral and engaging your opponent). The Marlin was only marginally slower ;)

So - they don't raise as many red flags as the "evil" black rifles but are still very capable fighting and hunting tools... what's there not to like, especially right now????

3006mv
09-21-2013, 12:11 PM
CGT80 good to know thanks. Does anyone make a flat base mold in 150 or 160 gr? I may try my hand at powder coating and baking.
My most recent load is 15 gr of H4198 doing under 1500 fps.
My 30-30 is a win 94 that I scout scoped. My other lever actions are .22 Henry, 3006 model 95 repro carbine and rifle models, marlin .357 and win m94 in .44 mag. Was looking at a Cimmeron in .44 special but too pricey for me.

XVIga_Rob
09-21-2013, 1:37 PM
I, like many others, am also a little frustrated with the difficulty in finding ammo. Hopefully when things mellow out availability and price become more reasonable!

Ammo availability sucks here in CA.!! It's gotten MUCH better in other states! I spent the last 2 weeks working in Northern NV. and shelves are basically full (.22lr is all that is lacking) in every store I've been in, in multiple town's, & cities. The same was true last month when I was in PA & ME.

Just last night, on my way home. I bought a few boxes of Remington 150gr .30-30 in Cabela's @ $15.99/box.

rromeo
09-21-2013, 6:10 PM
.30-30 is just perfect for hunting out here. It's a rare day to take a shot over 100 yards, and just forget anything more than 200.
Ammo was hard to find for a while, but last week Wal-Mart apparently hijacked the Core Lokt truck, they had about 30 boxes on the shelf.

Wrangler John
09-22-2013, 10:55 AM
The thing about the .30-30 is that it is a very accurate cartridge limited only by the rattle trap lever actions it's chambered in. Even then, it's one of the most sensible and practical cartridges ever invented.

My experience with the .30-30 was not in a rifle, but in the Contender pistol. With a 150 grain Sierra bullet and a charge of H-322 I competed all over California in IHMSA matches. Recoil wasn't too unruly, I never had the thing fly out of my hand or leave me bleeding, like some other hand canons. Best of all it would shoot 40x40 possibles in either the 10" or 15" barrel. It would easily shoot 10 shot groups under 1" MOA at 50 yards with open sights in the days before I needed prescription glasses. That same brass was formed into a bunch of other cartridges such as the 7mm Rimmed IHMSA, .30 and .357 Herrett. Of course the competitive Contender shooters weren't limited to flat-nose bullets and tricked the cases out to headspace on the shoulder.

Were I to pick up a .30-30 lever action, I'd look at loading my own, using the Hornady .30 cal Monoflex bullet (a flex tipped boat tail designed for the .30-30) over charges of H-332 or Varget. Unfortunately, brass is just as scarce now, except some vendors have Hornady brass in stock but being a premium brass it's expensive. The skilled rifleman with a .30-30 doesn't have to feel second tier to anyone. :)

NapalmCheese
09-22-2013, 11:03 AM
.30-30 is just perfect for hunting out here. It's a rare day to take a shot over 100 yards, and just forget anything more than 200.
Ammo was hard to find for a while, but last week Wal-Mart apparently hijacked the Core Lokt truck, they had about 30 boxes on the shelf.

Where in CA are you hunting? Most of my big game hunting is out of state over sagebrush or rye, long shots are pretty normal. In CA however, my hunting seems to be limited to tight quarters bow hunting or seeing game 2 miles away. I've thought that .30-30 might be particularly perfect for the central CA area more than once.

The sarge
09-22-2013, 4:26 PM
The 30-30 is actually at the top of my want list right now. The only reason I haven't bought one is I can't find ammo for it. I'm not setup to reload and won't be for another year or so. I also want one with character. I don't really want a new one, I'd like a classic one with a beautiful finish and a really nice wood grain. Dings and dents wouldn't bother me I think it's part of the gun's story. They really are beautiful and useful guns. I have all the guns I need but not all the guns I want!

k1dude
09-22-2013, 4:53 PM
I can't disagree. But Mossberg on the other hand, found a way!

http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/mossberg464spx011.jpg

You guys are missing the point. EVERY gun owner should own one or more of these Mossbergs to simply poke a stick in the eye of all the legislators trying to ban black rifles. We should make black powder rifles look tactical as well. F*** Sacramento!

NapalmCheese
09-22-2013, 5:14 PM
The 30-30 is actually at the top of my want list right now. The only reason I haven't bought one is I can't find ammo for it. I'm not setup to reload and won't be for another year or so. I also want one with character. I don't really want a new one, I'd like a classic one with a beautiful finish and a really nice wood grain. Dings and dents wouldn't bother me I think it's part of the gun's story. They really are beautiful and useful guns. I have all the guns I need but not all the guns I want!


Just pick up one of the laminated wood Marlin 336s from Big 5 and put your own dings in it! Or find a awesome used M94 :)

NapalmCheese
09-22-2013, 5:18 PM
You guys are missing the point. EVERY gun owner should own one or more of these Mossbergs to simply poke a stick in the eye of all the legislators trying to ban black rifles. We should make black powder rifles look tactical as well. F*** Sacramento!
I vurped again.

DannyInSoCal
09-22-2013, 5:34 PM
Levers in .308 & 44Mag -

Drumming fingers on desk waiting patently for UPS to bring C&R lever in 30-30....

3006mv
09-23-2013, 11:17 AM
Marlin 336 laminate checkered stock at big5 $499. Looks pretty good.

TheWoodCrafter
09-23-2013, 6:07 PM
Here is my cool lever gun.
Not going to shoot this one.

http://youtu.be/nEgIukAWEhA

XVIga_Rob
09-23-2013, 6:19 PM
Nice!

The sarge
09-23-2013, 6:33 PM
Just pick up one of the laminated wood Marlin 336s from Big 5 and put your own dings in it! Or find a awesome used M94 :)

I want the real deal not some laminate crap. I want that classic but it has to be in good shape.

bigbully
09-28-2013, 11:48 PM
I love my .30-30, I inherited it from my dad in near perfect condition, never been hunted a day in it's life (maybe I'll take it hunting, maybe I won't). I enjoy occasionally shooting it for all sorts of reasons and, as I said, I keep going back and forth about whether I'll take it hunting some day.

That being said, why the sudden resurgence in .30-30 popularity? Ammo is scarce and people are apparently hoarding lever evolution like it's dragon gold. What's the deal?

Is it just that people are frightened that their ARs might get taken away and in searching for a 'high' capacity middle weight cartridge and gun to replace it are flocking to the .30-30 lever guns? I would have thought the .44s and .357s would have been a better fit.
I seriously doubt AR shooters are flocking from a fairly cheap round to a much more expensive caliber. However, my 336 is a sh** ton of fun and I just ordered a bunch more ammo.

d37mike
09-29-2013, 9:13 AM
The lever gun as a whole, especially chambered in 30-30 win, is a formidable weapon.

Starting with legislation, it doesn't look scary (not black(except for that tacticool thing, which still doesn't look scary, but rather like it is trying too hard)), which means it is much more political friendly.

It doesn't raise nearly as many flags with law enforcement.

Most rifles have short barrels and are compact and light, meaning they are easier to handle. This also allows for the possibility of home defense. The 30-30 will take down any two legged creatures. However, it is limited to ranch or rural communities, as a miss, or even a light hit, can pass through the wall and continue on into the neighbors house (not good). On the upside though, if it were to be used for self defense, liability is diminished, again, its not a big black scary murder's gun, but rather a family heirloom.

It is accurate and very cheap to reload for. Reloading allows many options, from cheap, low recoil plinking to hardcore hunting rounds.

While it's fire rate might be slightly lower than that of an AR, it has an outstanding time on target time and follow up shot time. The accuracy of the follow up shots often surpasses that of a semi auto for the simple reason that chambering a new round forces the shooter to once again find the target and aim, lessening the chance of the whiskey finger follow up shot. However, this is all dependent on the level of time spent training and firing the gun.

Obviously no one gun can do everything. Lever guns have limited range and long reload times (though reloading can be done with the weapon still ready to fire). But in general, a lever gun in 30-30 is a fun, accurate, reliable hunting, target, and plinking rifle. Its awfully hard to beat, especially for the price.

ElToro
09-29-2013, 9:31 AM
anybody seen any all copper leverrevolution ammo lately ?

a 16 inch 336 is a pretty wicked little beast ever see one al done up ?

i have 3 marlin 336 in 30-30 and my great uncles .32 special win 1894, he bought it new in the teens when he got of of the navy after WW1 He lived down in Hollister. One story he told my grandpa was that he shot a deer in the Hollister hills and for some reason set the rifle down to go get the deer. well he got turned around and couldnt find the rifle. he spent the rest of the day walking around till he finally found it. It is in my safe, oiled and ready for action.

rromeo
10-03-2013, 7:02 AM
Where in CA are you hunting? Most of my big game hunting is out of state over sagebrush or rye, long shots are pretty normal. In CA however, my hunting seems to be limited to tight quarters bow hunting or seeing game 2 miles away. I've thought that .30-30 might be particularly perfect for the central CA area more than once.

I'm not currently in California. I live in Southwestern Virginia.
We have a lot of small hills and a lot of trees. The long, open shots just don't exist.

G21Shooter
10-03-2013, 7:58 AM
30-30s are simply badass guns. I have a older rare model Marlin 336 with a 24 inch barrel. Produced in the 70s, really nice rifle. Have not shot it for a long time, my ARs get all the attention these days.

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm245/jcole_08/b376b5d7-209f-4619-a48a-8f8a6639b46d_zpsb4eb5e98.jpg

dfletcher
10-03-2013, 9:39 AM
I don't have a 30.30 in lever action but do have a T/C Encore in 30.30 Ackley Improved - 1" bull barrel, 27" tube. Being able to use hollow point, AMax & VMax, really shows how well the 30.30 can do on accuracy. When fireforming the 30.30 to AI I didn't expect too much but the rifle shot one hole clusters at 100 yds with the Sierra 125 BTHP MK.

I still consider the AI version a "30.30" - just with a few more fps. I'm very happy with it.

Witch Hunter
10-13-2013, 2:58 PM
Every American household should have a lever action 30/30. It is capable of almost anything. Short, light, flat sided. Just plain cool too.

ERdept
10-14-2013, 10:54 PM
I have a Winchester 94, serial number 1921.

It's amazing, in patina, wear, and it shoots straight, and the hunting stories that go with it, and admonishment to never use it for bear.

Gifted from Dad to me. Pure Love and caring...

XVIga_Rob
10-15-2013, 6:04 PM
I have a Winchester 94 in .30-30 and would not have a problem taking a bear with it. Of course, distance and shot placement would be key.

Capybara
10-15-2013, 8:01 PM
This beauty, 1951 vintage, just joined my family. I have wanted one since I was a kid, waiting on ammo to arrive so I can break it in.

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/capybara84/DSCN0787_zps88c910af.jpg

XVIga_Rob
10-15-2013, 9:29 PM
Looks great! Congrats!

'ol shooter
10-15-2013, 10:08 PM
This beauty, 1951 vintage, just joined my family. I have wanted one since I was a kid, waiting on ammo to arrive so I can break it in.

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/capybara84/DSCN0787_zps88c910af.jpg

I just got through cleaning my late Fathers 1951 Mod. 94 in Win. .32 Spl., that now is my sons. We took it out and put 40 handloads through it, my wife even shot it 3 times. A fun rifle to shoot, as fun as my 94 in .30-30, and the first time it has been shot since the late 1950's.

Capybara
10-16-2013, 4:50 AM
I just got through cleaning my late Fathers 1951 Mod. 94 in Win. .32 Spl., that now is my sons. We took it out and put 40 handloads through it, my wife even shot it 3 times. A fun rifle to shoot, as fun as my 94 in .30-30, and the first time it has been shot since the late 1950's.

Nice! Yes, they are classics, just like a '57 chevy, everyone wants/needs one.

AGGRO
10-16-2013, 5:38 AM
I've got two, one from each Grandfather. I'll never sell em but do carry them in the woods. I've shot a bunch of Deer with each.

rromeo
10-16-2013, 8:47 AM
I have a Winchester 94 in .30-30 and would not have a problem taking a bear with it. Of course, distance and shot placement would be key.

My friend takes bears with his Marlin.

robcoe
10-16-2013, 9:21 AM
I love my .30-30, I inherited it from my dad in near perfect condition, never been hunted a day in it's life (maybe I'll take it hunting, maybe I won't). I enjoy occasionally shooting it for all sorts of reasons and, as I said, I keep going back and forth about whether I'll take it hunting some day.

That being said, why the sudden resurgence in .30-30 popularity? Ammo is scarce and people are apparently hoarding lever evolution like it's dragon gold. What's the deal?

Is it just that people are frightened that their ARs might get taken away and in searching for a 'high' capacity middle weight cartridge and gun to replace it are flocking to the .30-30 lever guns? I would have thought the .44s and .357s would have been a better fit.

I would guess it is because it's a round that, while not perfect for anything, is good enough at just about everything(except long range precision) to make it a viable "if you had one gun" round.

RDT72
10-16-2013, 9:43 AM
I may or may not own an AR-15, but my attraction to the 30-30 came in looking for a deer gun. Everyone was pushing me towards bolt actions but I just wasn't feeling the need nor desire to be able to take a deer at 600+ yards, I looked into other proven hunting rifles and the lever-action came up time and time again. 30-30 is a good mid range rifle caliber because point of aim = point of impact (within 10" kill zone on a deer) up to 240 yards. Throw in the flex tips and you gain some yardage. ALSO lever-actions IMO are more easily used defensibly than bolt actions in close encounters.

pennstater
10-18-2013, 1:01 PM
Really like my Mod 94, great pig buster. But, was wondering, what the heck is a 30-30 Improved!? What with those thin case walls on 30-30 brass, there isn't much to improve on. However, dfletcher pretty much cleared that question up .
Thanks df.

ERdept
10-19-2013, 10:56 PM
What's a good deer round for the 30-30?

Stuff I can get from K mart, Big5, etc.

UberPatriot
10-19-2013, 11:34 PM
I can't disagree. But Mossberg on the other hand, found a way!

http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/mossberg464spx011.jpg

I don't know why I like it but I do.
I would love to have this, it's like a dystopian future nightmare lever gun.
The thing I can't figure out is, Why didn't they put a top rail on it?

TMB 1
10-20-2013, 8:54 AM
What's a good deer round for the 30-30?

Stuff I can get from K mart, Big5, etc.

Any brand with 150gr to 170gr bullets. Mostly what I see at Walmart, Big5, etc... is Remington, Winchester and Federal.

'ol shooter
10-20-2013, 9:11 AM
170 gr. core-lock would be my first choice, or the Lever Revolution round (harder to find). 100-150 yards is the sweet spot, after that it's a crap shoot.

Darto
10-20-2013, 9:56 PM
NINETEEN RANGERS...



http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg153/CrowDriver/rangers_zpsabaa1c65.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/CrowDriver/media/rangers_zpsabaa1c65.jpg.html)

SMarquez
10-21-2013, 8:56 AM
My wife was to be a huge AR nut before she got her first lever gun. Now she owns a Henry Big Boy .44, Henry 30-30 and an Uberti Yellow Boy .45 Colt. When we go shooting she never brings her ARs anymore only her "cowboy guns."
Wow, that's awesome. My wife really ikes her AR but has the hot's for a Henry
Golden Boy. I think it's the bling thing. Where do you shoot? Whats ammo availability like?

SMarquez
10-21-2013, 9:00 AM
I have a Marlin 336 and Winchester 94. The Marlin is ugly but has a great trigger. The Marlin seems to shoot better with Remington brass handloads and the Winnie prefers Winchester brass. Both are topped wit 150 gr. Core-Lokt bullets. I guess if I want to hunt them I need to find some copper solids for it.