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tatt00edangel
08-21-2013, 2:55 PM
I just saw that the antis are boycotting Starbucks this Saturday August 24 because of their gun policy. Are we planning another guns and coffee show of support for Starbucks? I haven't seen anybody post anything. I'm not a Starbucks goer but like last time, they got a lot of business from me that day.

Vick
08-21-2013, 2:57 PM
I've got some 2 dollar bills I can spend :D

stix213
08-21-2013, 2:58 PM
I know where I'll be making a stop on saturday then

roger1022
08-21-2013, 3:02 PM
Coffee Saturday morning - roger that!

Rickrock1
08-21-2013, 3:03 PM
Because Starbucks is standing for what is right, will at Starbucks this Saturday and encouraging all to also show support.

Thanks for the heads up.

Thank you Starbucks and keep up the good work

09rubicon
08-21-2013, 3:08 PM
Guess I need another Latte!

thmpr
08-21-2013, 3:11 PM
I am a big SB user.

tatt00edangel
08-21-2013, 3:20 PM
If anyone has a link to any site organizing our show of support please post it, otherwise I guess this will be it.

ChrisC
08-21-2013, 3:21 PM
I'm not a coffee drinker, but I believe they have pastries I can get.

bigdawg86
08-21-2013, 3:23 PM
Too bad I can't OC in Starbucks... It being concealed isn't as fun ;)

Calplinker
08-21-2013, 3:26 PM
Every Saturday, I kick off my morning with a 5 mile run, ending at Coffee Bean for a Red Eye. This Saturday I'll go to Starbucks instead.

Of course I'll be carrying as I normally am. ;)

whlgun
08-21-2013, 3:29 PM
I will show my support.

LoadedM333
08-21-2013, 3:37 PM
I don't drink coffee but I'll show up to buy something and show my support.

JohnnyMtn
08-21-2013, 3:45 PM
Tally ho. I'm in. And probably times two.

SonofWWIIDI
08-21-2013, 3:50 PM
Don't really drink coffee, but their are two Starbucks on the way to my gig this Saturday. I'll probably stop at both and buy something. Maybe even suspend (is that what it's called?) something for someone who can't afford a cup of coffee.

tatt00edangel
08-21-2013, 3:53 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/08/21/starbucks-boycott-gun-control-group/2681203/

This is the story.

speedrrracer
08-21-2013, 3:58 PM
I'll have to buy a bunch of Starbucks on the way to the range...

Nate74
08-21-2013, 4:13 PM
I'll sport my Charlton Heston for Pres Shirt and head on down for a Latte...

tatt00edangel
08-21-2013, 4:18 PM
https://sphotos-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/419666_10150530892106039_1330965430_n.jpg

freedom-lover
08-21-2013, 5:07 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/08/21/starbucks-boycott-gun-control-group/2681203/

Looks like I am going to have to stop at Starbucks this Saturday

Edwood
08-21-2013, 6:13 PM
Not really a big fan of Starbucks coffee, but sure, why not? They have other things than coffee as well.

scoobyj
08-21-2013, 6:45 PM
:willy_nilly::willy_nilly::willy_nilly::willy_nill y: Need more caffeine!!!!!!!

Custom ii
08-21-2013, 6:47 PM
I'm not a coffee drinker, but I believe they have pastries I can get.

I love their lemon bars. I better get there early Saturday so I can get one.

Steph
08-21-2013, 6:56 PM
Green tea latte and very berry coffee cake for me, yum. :)

383green
08-21-2013, 6:57 PM
I visit my local Starbucks 5-7 times a week. I think I'm helping put several of the baristas through college. :)

nosuchagency
08-21-2013, 7:06 PM
I foresee a trenta berry hibiscus with 1 splenda on saturday...

NoJoke
08-21-2013, 7:10 PM
I'll have to buy a bunch of Starbucks on the way to the range...

/\/\/\ Winner!
Starbucks for the whole family of 5 on Sat! ;)

Ratboy
08-21-2013, 7:10 PM
I'll go early and I'll go late.

njineermike
08-21-2013, 7:13 PM
I can't stand Starbucks coffee. Tastes like boiled charcoal. Me and the wife will be having some and the boy will have hot chocolate on Saturday. Gotta support our allies and shove a big fat middle finger in the face of the antis, even if it tastes like crap.

pastureofmuppets
08-21-2013, 7:38 PM
I have issues with Starbucks... this ain't one of 'em. Coffee it is Saturday.

2nd Mass
08-21-2013, 7:39 PM
I'll make sure to buy a couple of things on Aug 24.

Track Rat
08-21-2013, 7:50 PM
Starbucks guy here also. I'll be sure to wear my T-Shirt. :)

http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p603/jdmquipas2/null_zpsb0c10cbb.jpg

sharxbyte
08-21-2013, 7:57 PM
I'll make a stop!

rabbit91476
08-21-2013, 7:58 PM
"Many moms are unaware that if they take their children to Starbucks, their children may be standing next to a customer who has a loaded weapon," says.

And. the mall, gas station, Costco,banks

I do appreciate the stand they take butI think star bucks coffee is crap. but my kids love there scones.

junbug7
08-21-2013, 8:13 PM
I'm a Coffee Bean chick but Starbucks gets my business for their support!! Starbucks on the way to the beach & back again!!

40calibre
08-21-2013, 8:22 PM
Don't normally drink it, but ill be there Saturday

BHPFan
08-21-2013, 8:34 PM
I'm not a coffee drinker, but I believe they have pastries I can get.

Neither am I a coffee drinker

Speaking for myself, I know I'll stop by to have my fix of Chocolate Frappe or Tall Green Iced Tea along with some of their new line of pastries.

Dave07997S
08-21-2013, 8:39 PM
I get Starbucks black eyes(2 add shot) daily intravenously...:D

Dustin6st
08-21-2013, 8:46 PM
Thanks for the heads up OP I'll be there!

dyson
08-21-2013, 8:59 PM
in for coffee and a toasted morning bun

G-Man WC
08-21-2013, 9:17 PM
In support of those that support 2A I"ll spin down to the local SB's.
I think that I"ll invite and offer to buy my local AK midwife a cup to discuss my next build. A very open and loud conversation while free speech is still allowed. -g

Paul S
08-21-2013, 9:43 PM
I'm not a coffee drinker, but I believe they have pastries I can get.

Hey bud...Starbucks has tea, milk, hot chocolate...come on..stop in and imbibe. :D

desertjunkie760
08-21-2013, 9:52 PM
I'm going. I hate the price, but its worth supporting. I like how the article states "mothers don't know that their children could be standing next to a loaded firearm". Really...

1 if they don't know why does it matter, and 2 that could be anywhere at anytime. Especially if the state allows people to carry.

I'll even bring a few friends to make up for any "loses" the company might have. ;) good shooting gents.

Cheers

Ron-Solo
08-21-2013, 9:52 PM
Some of them also have a really good bottled root beer.

nicoroshi
08-21-2013, 9:53 PM
In support of those that support 2A I"ll spin down to the local SB's.
I think that I"ll invite and offer to buy my local AK midwife a cup to discuss my next build. A very open and loud conversation while free speech is still allowed. -g

Better be early. I am meeting a new builder there at 8am that morning.
Personally I am hopelessly addicted to the caramel macchiato.
And I will be there drinking one on the 24th. :)

Superfreak
08-21-2013, 9:56 PM
An SB trip is def. in the works for SAT. There's one down the street from the range I go to...Maybe I'll treat the range guys to some as well!

MakeYaBootyBurn
08-21-2013, 10:09 PM
just a bunch of "stay at home moms" who don't get enough D and have WAY to much time on their hands...
I'll show my support!

NorCalFocus
08-21-2013, 10:17 PM
My wife and I are huge SB fans. Looks like we'll be having breakfast at Starbucks this Saturday.

sdsguy87
08-21-2013, 10:22 PM
I'll be in with my pro-2A shirt before and after work!

rayrayz
08-21-2013, 10:27 PM
looks like co-workers are gonna get a treat this Sat. Starbucks......I am inbound!

bako88fan
08-21-2013, 10:29 PM
My coworkers are having a shoot N 'que on Saturday and it looks like our rally point is going to be Starbucks. Solo venti iced caramel machiatto down the hatch!

desertjunkie760
08-21-2013, 10:32 PM
I state rated a Facebook event, for the hell of it. Share it or however that works. I've never done one before so its a new thing. Ha.

Its named Starbucks support.

desertjunkie760
08-21-2013, 10:33 PM
Started*

Edwood
08-21-2013, 10:33 PM
I like their mugs too. I'm overdue in buying another one.

GoingPro
08-21-2013, 11:24 PM
Im in if we can gather up and support single moms at the best nearest strip club.

45_acp
08-21-2013, 11:45 PM
no Coffee for me but I am sure they have something for my sweet tooth.

steve91104
08-21-2013, 11:48 PM
OP thanks for posting this. I will make a point of going to SB this Saturday

paratroop
08-22-2013, 12:30 AM
I swear I have boycotted starbuck's for something in the past. Until I can remember what it was, I refuse to go there. My niece works at one, and I know I told her the same thing. It had to be something about not supporting the troops or something like that. So if anyone can remember any reason why a veteran would want to boycott them, please remind me.

aztecw
08-22-2013, 1:24 AM
I swear I have boycotted starbuck's for something in the past. Until I can remember what it was, I refuse to go there. My niece works at one, and I know I told her the same thing. It had to be something about not supporting the troops or something like that. So if anyone can remember any reason why a veteran would want to boycott them, please remind me.

I could be mistaken, bit I believe when the Dixie Chicks Lead singer Natalie Maines said something negative about Bush, and got into it with Toby Keith and a good number of country fans; I think Star Bucks sided with her. I believe Starbucks was giving away their CD's for free.

nosuchagency
08-22-2013, 4:47 AM
I swear I have boycotted starbuck's for something in the past. Until I can remember what it was, I refuse to go there. My niece works at one, and I know I told her the same thing. It had to be something about not supporting the troops or something like that. So if anyone can remember any reason why a veteran would want to boycott them, please remind me.

para, it was a story liked you mentioned, but was subsequently refutted per snopes. now got git your sugar-free, decaf latte with the whipped cream & sprinkles, etc. :p

JCMILLER
08-22-2013, 5:24 AM
I'll be in Roseville on Saturday. I will have to wear my I Love Guns & Coffee t-shirt and show my support.

caoboy
08-22-2013, 5:37 AM
Passion tea lemonade with, raspberry and classic sweeteners....is this like a state wide boycott/rally?

-hanko
08-22-2013, 6:01 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/08/21/starbucks-boycott-gun-control-group/2681203/

This is the story.
From the story...

"Many moms are unaware that if they take their children to Starbucks, their children may be standing next to a customer who has a loaded weapon," says Shannon Watts, founder of the non-profit group Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America.

Maybe an MILF hook-up site? ;)

drh777
08-22-2013, 7:11 AM
I'm in for Saturday morning in the Roseville area. Maybe even twice!

Crf450rr
08-22-2013, 7:40 AM
I go to bucks every day and I'll keep going as long as they support the 2A...

Calplinker
08-22-2013, 8:55 AM
From the story...

"Many moms are unaware that if they take their children to Starbucks, their children may be standing next to a customer who has a loaded weapon," says Shannon Watts, founder of the non-profit group Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America.

Maybe an MILF hook-up site? ;)

I guarantee that the cute mom with her little girl standing next to me in line at Starbucks this morning had no idea I was carrying. ;)

PhillyGunner
08-22-2013, 9:01 AM
As it should be.

If only she could recognize the fact that there are folks like you out there, who are willing and able, and if need be will solve potentially deadly problems for her just like LEOs... without needing to experience it first hand or have Piers Morgan and Oprah tell her it is O.K.

jonc
08-22-2013, 9:15 AM
coffee time!!!

benjaminh98
08-22-2013, 9:34 AM
I state rated a Facebook event, for the hell of it. Share it or however that works. I've never done one before so its a new thing. Ha.

Its named Starbucks support.

I've sent the group invite to every single friend I have on Facebook.

Lnk to group: https://www.facebook.com/events/208922902606064/?ref=2

kms65
08-22-2013, 9:39 AM
morning coffee for me and the wife.

glock_this
08-22-2013, 11:00 AM
I hate SB and I loath coffee... I might stop in 1 this Saturday and buy something. Maybe tea.

johninRC
08-22-2013, 11:14 AM
Just shared on my FB. Don't spend a lot of time there but a Mocha Frappe is on the way! I gotta get one of those progun T-shirts from them now.

fizux
08-22-2013, 11:18 AM
Gotta love the news article (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/08/21/starbucks-boycott-gun-control-group/2681203/):


In May, a female customer at a Starbucks store in St. Petersburg, Fla., was accidentally shot in the leg when another woman [her friend] dropped her purse [in] which [she illegally] carried a gun [a .25 auto with nothing covering the trigger guard] that discharged [for the first time in over a year of illegal carry]. [The responsible citizen did not have a CCW license, and had forgotten that the gun was in her purse, rendering Starbucks' policy absolutely irrelevant in the incident; however, that does not stop the Antis from using this singular example of inadvertent firearm injury at SBUX.]
(my clarifications in bold)

stardunk
08-22-2013, 11:19 AM
StarBucks all-day Saturday. Roger that

radioburning
08-22-2013, 11:29 AM
I'll have to order something extra expensive...

EvolutionGSR
08-22-2013, 12:36 PM
Im in. Im buying for my friends I see that day too.

Nodda Duma
08-22-2013, 12:54 PM
I guarantee that the cute mom with her little girl standing next to me in line at Starbucks this morning had no idea I was carrying. ;)

If it happened to be in Amherst NH this morning, then there's a slim chance I bet you didn't know she was carrying either!

mark11
08-22-2013, 1:11 PM
SB for the whole family this Saturday. Roseville meet up?

I would love to find an SB that is actually being picketed. Know of any?

"I love guns and coffee" shirts are sold out on Amazon. Damn. Would love to wear one on Saturday.

from my fingers to your face via my Nexus 4

howbobert
08-22-2013, 2:50 PM
While I am not a big Starbucks fan, I will try and stop on my way to the county transfer station that morning to show my support. If not I will hit it on the way back.

bergmen
08-22-2013, 5:05 PM
I can't stand Starbucks coffee. Tastes like boiled charcoal. Me and the wife will be having some and the boy will have hot chocolate on Saturday. Gotta support our allies and shove a big fat middle finger in the face of the antis, even if it tastes like crap.

How true but Peets is worse, it tastes like Starbucks with a couple of decomposed cigar butts thrown in. And spendy also.

I would go there for support but I don't do any coffee shops at all.

Dan

drh777
08-22-2013, 5:10 PM
SB for the whole family this Saturday. Roseville meet up?

I would love to find an SB that is actually being picketed. Know of any?

"I love guns and coffee" shirts are sold out on Amazon. Damn. Would love to wear one on Saturday.

from my fingers to your face via my Nexus 4

X2 wish I could get a hold of a shirt before Saturday. I'd like to know of a SB that's actually getting picketed also in or around Roseville.

chad allred
08-22-2013, 5:18 PM
Starbucks on Saturday it is!

Gio
08-22-2013, 5:29 PM
Saludos de Puerto Vallarta, I'm in for a Venti Iced Upside Down Carmel Machiato this Saturday.

uhlan1
08-22-2013, 6:11 PM
Be sure to tell them why you are there and to tip.

SandHill
08-22-2013, 6:16 PM
I will definitely go to at least one Starbucks on Sat. I am going to pay with two dollar bills also. If anyone knows of Bay Area SB's being picketed, please post it. I would be willing to go out of my way to hit one of those.

maddoggie13
08-22-2013, 6:16 PM
Done. This Saturday.

Jet Setter
08-22-2013, 6:44 PM
Ii am not a SB fan at all. I always refuse to give them my money. However, I will support for this cause.

Zedrek
08-22-2013, 7:31 PM
I'm working a 16.5 hour shift Saturday and Sunday but I'll be there at 4:45am to get some iced tea and some pumpkin bread. I hate coffee but I hate the anti's even more.

PicantePeperoni
08-22-2013, 8:03 PM
I'm in with my wife!

decepticon6551
08-22-2013, 8:06 PM
I'm in

VAReact
08-22-2013, 9:14 PM
Haven't been to Starbucks in prolly a year.. Will hit it up Saturday.

tpc13
08-22-2013, 9:16 PM
Yes I'm supporting Star Bucks all the way!!!

Ag_Surfer
08-22-2013, 9:18 PM
I will use the GPS to fine one. I need my black eye. :cool:

pitbull30
08-22-2013, 9:23 PM
KCAL 9 news just aired this anti effort.

I never go to starbucks but I think I'll be having snack/drink time there with the family Saturday.

Javi
08-23-2013, 1:33 AM
Went to the "Starbucks appreciation" day a week or so ago so I will grab a medium this time around and maybe some kind of pastry this Saturday.

Edvil91
08-23-2013, 2:52 AM
Anybody have a clue where they are meeting at, like the big parties? I live around west hollywood, don't laugh, and hope they will be next to me! You guys think it's a good idea to wear gun-related clothing? That way they will think that "normal" people don't support them either...just thinking

njineermike
08-23-2013, 6:54 AM
Anybody have a clue where they are meeting at, like the big parties? I live around west hollywood, don't laugh, and hope they will be next to me! You guys think it's a good idea to wear gun-related clothing? That way they will think that "normal" people don't support them either...just thinking


That idea is awesome.

AeroEngi
08-23-2013, 7:08 AM
Heard about the antis boycotting Starbucks on the news this morning. I guess it's bigger than we originally thought.

4DSJW
08-23-2013, 8:14 AM
IIRC Starbucks stated that they are neither pro or anti 2A. They made it pretty clear that they supported the laws of the State where the shop is located. As long as their patrons were obeying the laws of that State they saw no reason to bar anyone from entering.

That said, and if it is still the case, I think it is equally important to support Starbucks against idiots who want to bully a business into this kind of behavior. I will be going to my local Starbucks twice on Saturday.

Javi
08-23-2013, 11:59 AM
^Yeah, they're "neutral". I like Military Arms Channel's thoughts on the whole thing.

http://www.thebangswitch.com/slapping-an-ally-in-the-face/

kustomkat1950
08-23-2013, 4:15 PM
I normally don't, but coffee for 6 coming up Saturday!

kustomkat1950
08-23-2013, 4:26 PM
also, we all social media these days...even just send out a text to your shooting buddies..you would be surprised who didn't know about this....


Let make it happen

badreligion
08-24-2013, 5:40 AM
Already had my first cup of Star Bucks coffee, Venti Mocha. Barista like to go shooting too!

rayz13
08-24-2013, 6:09 AM
"Many moms are unaware that if they take their children to Starbucks, their children may be standing next to a customer who has a loaded weapon," says Shannon Watts, founder of the non-profit group Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America. what a really stupid stupid idiot-the safest place for your kids to be when out in public IS next to a law abiding citizen with a loaded gun!

Dutch3
08-24-2013, 6:44 AM
No Starbucks here. :(

tatt00edangel
08-24-2013, 7:54 AM
OK on my way. Make sure to let all your friends and family know that today is a day for the constitution and for America....and it all comes in a cup.

Ratboy
08-24-2013, 8:17 AM
Just got back... picked up a Grande black with two add shots. That should do it.

I'll go again between jobs today.

Does anyone know off the top of their head if there's a specific S.F. location for the protesters?

decepticon6551
08-24-2013, 8:20 AM
:laugh: The line was out the door at the Starbucks near my work. I never would've waited that long if it weren't for this thread.

roger1022
08-24-2013, 8:32 AM
Just got back from Wal-Mart and Starbucks. Nothing like scoring ammo and coffee to start your day!

These people can boycott all they want!

Crf450rr
08-24-2013, 8:40 AM
On my way to Starbucks in Linda Mar shopping center (Pacifica)
Also wearing a Tactical Responce sweat shirt to piss off the anti-gunners...
I'll go back later today wearing a Smith&Wessen hoodie...

cpatbay
08-24-2013, 8:56 AM
Venti drinks for my whole family today!

malfunction
08-24-2013, 8:58 AM
I suspect Starbucks' policy is more a "do nothing and try and stay away from controversy" policy, than a positive pro-gun vote, but I guess we gotta take what we can get these days. But how will their management ever know their increased sales today are due to this policy?

"Many moms are unaware that if they take their children to Starbucks, their children may be standing next to a customer who has a loaded weapon," says Shannon Watts, founder of the non-profit group Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America.
Yep, and most them are wearing badges and uniforms, no?

Valegian
08-24-2013, 9:07 AM
Gonna go to Starbucks in Milpitas/San Jose in a few minutes. Anyone know where the Anti-Starbucks idiots are posted? I wanna show up there with the Family to prove that is is safe to buy myself a cup of joe and my sons vanilla fraps. :thumbup::D:thumbup:

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2

Danz la Nuit
08-24-2013, 9:51 AM
My post today in response to fools who are all giddy about supporting Starbucks...

Sure, Starbucks deserves credit for not cowing to the anti-gun emotion>logic ****heads but I have to ask, are you a member of the NRA? If not, why not? Do you support the Calguns Foundation here in CA? If not, why not? How about the CRPA? How about the second amendment foundation?

Your 10$ would be much better spent going to these organization that are actually fighting for our rights as compared to Starbucks...

Valegian
08-24-2013, 10:01 AM
My post today in response to fools who are all giddy about supporting Starbucks...

Sure, Starbucks deserves credit for not cowing to the anti-gun emotion>logic ****heads but I have to ask, are you a member of the NRA? If not, why not? Do you support the Calguns Foundation here in CA? If not, why not? How about the CRPA? How about the second amendment foundation?

Your 10$ would be much better spent going to these organization that are actually fighting for our rights as compared to Starbucks...

Already done that and continue to do that... :thumbup::D:thumbup:

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Ratboy
08-24-2013, 10:02 AM
My post today in response to fools who are all giddy about supporting Starbucks...

Sure, Starbucks deserves credit for not cowing to the anti-gun emotion>logic ****heads but I have to ask, are you a member of the NRA? If not, why not? Do you support the Calguns Foundation here in CA? If not, why not? How about the CRPA? How about the second amendment foundation?

Your 10$ would be much better spent going to these organization that are actually fighting for our rights as compared to Starbucks...

Well now, this fool is an NRA member and this fool does contribute to various pro 2A organizations.

Of course I go to SB's a couple times a week anyhow... but if there are those making a point against our rights and SB's stance on the issue by protesting them I will happily go twice in one day. :p

Crf450rr
08-24-2013, 10:21 AM
NRA life member since 1974...Sent them lots of money over the years...


My post today in response to fools who are all giddy about supporting Starbucks...

Sure, Starbucks deserves credit for not cowing to the anti-gun emotion>logic ****heads but I have to ask, are you a member of the NRA? If not, why not? Do you support the Calguns Foundation here in CA? If not, why not? How about the CRPA? How about the second amendment foundation?

Your 10$ would be much better spent going to these organization that are actually fighting for our rights as compared to Starbucks...

diverwcw
08-24-2013, 10:22 AM
I didn't realize this was going on. After reading about it, I just had to pay my local Stargbucks a visit and support them. It looked like a typical Saturday crowd there no anti gunners around.

matthewcpp
08-24-2013, 10:35 AM
Just got back from my local starbucks and the line was out the door. There were no signs of boycott there at all.

tatt00edangel
08-24-2013, 10:58 AM
My post today in response to fools who are all giddy about supporting Starbucks...

Sure, Starbucks deserves credit for not cowing to the anti-gun emotion>logic ****heads but I have to ask, are you a member of the NRA? If not, why not? Do you support the Calguns Foundation here in CA? If not, why not? How about the CRPA? How about the second amendment foundation?

Your 10$ would be much better spent going to these organization that are actually fighting for our rights as compared to Starbucks...

All for supporting all those organizations, however when there is a company that is being attacked because they support the law, I will be supporting them as well. There are so few that actually have the nuts to say, hey...the law is the law...

rabbit91476
08-24-2013, 11:01 AM
my local star bucks. they said it was a crazy morning. I asked if there was an unusual amount of men. They said yes. I told them why

Omil
08-24-2013, 11:04 AM
Been going to my local SC's for years!

camcojb
08-24-2013, 11:06 AM
Just got back from my local starbucks and the line was out the door. There were no signs of boycott there at all.

same here, no effect that I could see.

tbombaci
08-24-2013, 11:08 AM
Just back from the local Starbucks here in South San Ho. Seemed to be business as usual. Perhaps the reach of the misinformed mothers group is not very far.

Of course we had the proper attire on:

http://i.imgur.com/WoTqdusl.jpg

Tom

bako88fan
08-24-2013, 11:10 AM
Just got back from Starbucks. Employees didn't know why so many men showed up today. I told them the story. Our cashier thanked us for the support. I didn't expect protesters or picketing. Our Starbucks in located in front of the Armed Services Recruitment Center. :cool:

njineermike
08-24-2013, 11:18 AM
The law of unintended consequences strikes again.

tatt00edangel
08-24-2013, 11:19 AM
Just back from the local Starbucks here in South San Ho. Seemed to be business as usual. Perhaps the reach of the misinformed mothers group is not very far.

Of course we had the proper attire on:

http://i.imgur.com/WoTqdusl.jpg

Tom

Where is that shirt from with all the kitchen utensils?! It's awesome.

tbombaci
08-24-2013, 11:22 AM
Where is that shirt from with all the kitchen utensils?! It's awesome.

Picked it up a last year from woot.com. They would generally sell one design a day. However, they sell every shirt all the time now.

http://shirt.woot.com/offers/kitchen-warfare

Tom

Nodda Duma
08-24-2013, 11:35 AM
BTW we're doing the same in New England!

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/general-discussion/219579-gun-control-group-boycotting-starbucks-saturday-24-august.html

Tripper
08-24-2013, 11:44 AM
Certainly no antis at my Starbucks

AceGirlsHusband
08-24-2013, 11:50 AM
Just got back from my local starbucks and the line was out the door. There were no signs of boycott there at all.

Me, too. Seems the "protest" was a non-event here in Sacramento... at least in my area. And I even had my Jeep Rubicon with the NRA sticker, MagPul, LaRue and Sig Sauer Academy stickers parked prominently next to the entrance!

rayrayz
08-24-2013, 11:59 AM
Done. Might have to repeat and rinse:D

halifax
08-24-2013, 12:02 PM
Just got back from my local starbucks and the line was out the door. There were no signs of boycott there at all.

Ditto

Longhill
08-24-2013, 12:10 PM
Now if everyone would use the name "2A" for their order, we can be a bit more united in our cause.

Losd619
08-24-2013, 12:13 PM
Just got back from my local starbucks and the line was out the door. There were no signs of boycott there at all.

line was out the door because of the pro 2a crowd

decepticon6551
08-24-2013, 12:55 PM
My post today in response to fools who are all giddy about supporting Starbucks...

Sure, Starbucks deserves credit for not cowing to the anti-gun emotion>logic ****heads but I have to ask, are you a member of the NRA? If not, why not? Do you support the Calguns Foundation here in CA? If not, why not? How about the CRPA? How about the second amendment foundation?

Your 10$ would be much better spent going to these organization that are actually fighting for our rights as compared to Starbucks...

Yes, yes, no, yes. And I've donated at least 400x more to them this past year than I've spent at Starbucks.

dyson
08-24-2013, 1:37 PM
Starbucks was pretty busy

NoJoke
08-24-2013, 1:43 PM
No protest present - in fact it seemed busier today than usual at my Starbucks in Oceanside.

http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k582/ned946/shirt_zps8e284d7e.jpg

http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k582/ned946/starbucksfam_zps10b1755a.jpg

Fastattack
08-24-2013, 1:48 PM
Took my family and neighbors. The store was normal traffic. We told them why we were there and they just said "Oh, OK!"
I don't know that the worker bees are aware but I'm sure corporate will be looking at the bottom-line.

tahoeshateme
08-24-2013, 1:53 PM
I have a feeling in CA not being an open carry state most of the people don't care. I'd be interested to hear from people in AZ.

Tripper
08-24-2013, 1:58 PM
wore my glock hat, nobody batted an eye
i wish Starbucks would post their profits for today, in comparison with other saturdays over the year...

Dantedamean
08-24-2013, 2:01 PM
Damn it, I'm stuck at home waiting for this stupid cable guy.

Tripper
08-24-2013, 2:26 PM
where does this set of stats come from, its posted on the moms against page;

There are far too many unnecessary deaths due to firearms.
54% of firearm-related deaths occurred in the home where the gun was kept
70.5% of these (firearm-related deaths in the home where the gun was kept) involved handguns
0.5% of these (firearm-related deaths in the home where the gun was kept) involved an intruder shot while attempting entry
1.8% of these (firearm-related deaths in the home where the gun was kept) were judged by police as self-defense
there were 1.3 times as many accidental firearm-related deaths in the home where the gun was kept as self-protection shootings
there were 4.6 times as many criminal firearm-related homicides in the home where the gun was kept as self-protection shootings.

Tripper
08-24-2013, 2:28 PM
oh dang, the banned me in a matter of seconds

Dantedamean
08-24-2013, 2:30 PM
where does this set of stats come from, its posted on the moms against page;

There are far too many unnecessary deaths due to firearms.
54% of firearm-related deaths occurred in the home where the gun was kept
70.5% of these (firearm-related deaths in the home where the gun was kept) involved handguns
0.5% of these (firearm-related deaths in the home where the gun was kept) involved an intruder shot while attempting entry
1.8% of these (firearm-related deaths in the home where the gun was kept) were judged by police as self-defense
there were 1.3 times as many accidental firearm-related deaths in the home where the gun was kept as self-protection shootings
there were 4.6 times as many criminal firearm-related homicides in the home where the gun was kept as self-protection shootings.

I call BS on that.

tahoeshateme
08-24-2013, 2:49 PM
oh dang, the banned me in a matter of seconds

Same her. I said to Look at the crime rates in states with open carry laws. Criminals like you unarmed, you become an easier victim. Since they seem my first amendment rights don't matter I would like to openly call them in my opion there a bunch on mindless ****s.

wildhawker
08-24-2013, 3:08 PM
We went.

-Brandon

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jello2594
08-24-2013, 4:04 PM
Went to Starbucks in Studio City, and the employee mentioned it was far busier than usual. I even got a compliment on my Molon Labe shirt! I was on my way back from an FFL where I started the DROS on my AOW (7.5 months since I applied for my tax stamp), so it was a very, very good day to support the 2nd.

Edvil91
08-24-2013, 4:37 PM
Yo I drove past like 5 starbucks shops in west hollywood, lib central, on the lookout for these protesters...I felt like the crocodile hunter! I didn't find squat!

AeroEngi
08-24-2013, 4:49 PM
Done! Bought a couple mugs, some pastries and a bunch of coffee. The Starbucks did seem more packed than usual.

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Crf450rr
08-24-2013, 4:52 PM
Went to 3 SB's today with the proper attire on and didn't any protesters either...

SandHill
08-24-2013, 4:56 PM
I went by four Starbucks in Menlo Park / Palo Alto. No sign of any protests, finally went in fourth. I was kind of sorry not to have the opportunity to vent, but kind of happy that there was not enough support for a demonstration. Asked the barista how business was, she said about average, hadn't heard of any boycott at all. I made a point to tell her why I was there and paid with two dollar bills. This was in probably the second most politically correct area of the state (second only to the Republic of Bezerkely), so I don't think the boycott had much steam.

M1NM
08-24-2013, 5:04 PM
Wife & I just finished our Starbucks run.

Carnivore
08-24-2013, 5:04 PM
A Starbucks opened 3 doors down from me 4 months ago...so far this is the best day they have had and it isn't 11pm yet. Now where is all this turn out when rights are threatened on a legislative level...oh wait I live in a more conservative district... never mind.

PhillyGunner
08-24-2013, 5:04 PM
where does this set of stats come from, its posted on the moms against page;

There are far too many unnecessary deaths due to firearms.
54% of firearm-related deaths occurred in the home where the gun was kept
70.5% of these (firearm-related deaths in the home where the gun was kept) involved handguns
0.5% of these (firearm-related deaths in the home where the gun was kept) involved an intruder shot while attempting entry
1.8% of these (firearm-related deaths in the home where the gun was kept) were judged by police as self-defense
there were 1.3 times as many accidental firearm-related deaths in the home where the gun was kept as self-protection shootings
there were 4.6 times as many criminal firearm-related homicides in the home where the gun was kept as self-protection shootings.

I haven't had an opportunity to read the new CDC report on Gun Violence, but if the numbers posted by the OP in that thread are even close to accurate, then these folks are cooking their numbers. (Or fabricating them.)

This is the thread link:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=811683&highlight=CDC

These groups keep lumping suicide numbers in with all these other statistics. If suicide deaths by firearms are almost 3 times the number of homicides per year, then 54% of firearm related deaths in the home means a lot of suiciders are taking their guns outside the home.

There will never be a "reasonable" discussion about gun control or gun violence because nobody wants to agree to a set of definitions or data.

Dantedamean
08-24-2013, 5:19 PM
The Starbucks on lone hill and route 66 in Glendora is just as busy as ever.

speedrrracer
08-24-2013, 5:32 PM
I bought so much crap I needed two of those cardboard trays they give you. Took an earl grey gave the rest of my wife in bed, and went shooting all day.

Came home and she's still bouncing off the walls. Dog is exhausted, she hung new curtains, switched around some artwork, some new tweaks in the garden, and there's a whole chicken and a rack of lamb in the smoker.

Money's worth? Check

desrt2
08-24-2013, 6:09 PM
Went to Starbucks 3x today. Tipped more than I paid. There wasn't any protestors but I think the soccer moms were too busy taxiing their kids and shopping to spend the day outside of Starbucks NOT buying anything.
My buddy and I had separately ran the scenario thru to see how we would react if confronted by a malicious mom mob but all for naught.
Anyway, I'm sure Starbucks saw an overall light increase for today. The main thing is they didn't take a hit at all.

ronlglock
08-24-2013, 7:56 PM
Bought a Frappacino and pound of coffee.


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el chivo
08-24-2013, 8:28 PM
But how will their management ever know their increased sales today are due to this policy?



that's why you pay with a $2 bill.

mag360
08-24-2013, 8:47 PM
I mail my receipt in saying thanks for supporting freedom and the constitution.

pitbull30
08-24-2013, 8:57 PM
My post today in response to fools who are all giddy about supporting Starbucks...

Sure, Starbucks deserves credit for not cowing to the anti-gun emotion>logic ****heads but I have to ask, are you a member of the NRA? If not, why not? Do you support the Calguns Foundation here in CA? If not, why not? How about the CRPA? How about the second amendment foundation?

Your 10$ would be much better spent going to these organization that are actually fighting for our rights as compared to Starbucks...

@ the posters responding to this. How about putting the organizations you support/belong to in your signature? Maybe it will cause more people to think "Whats with everyone supporting.......(enter your favorite here). Possibly gain some new members? New people who just found CG to learn more about? :shrug:

RudyN
08-24-2013, 9:00 PM
I went to Starbucks as I normally do on Saturday and a few other days of the week. Bought my wife and I Frappacinos. The place was quite busy.

decepticon6551
08-24-2013, 9:57 PM
@ the posters responding to this. How about putting the organizations you support/belong to in your signature? Maybe it will cause more people to think "Whats with everyone supporting.......(enter your favorite here). Possibly gain some new members? New people who just found CG to learn more about? :shrug:

Sound like a good idea, thanks for the suggestion ;)

Foxes
08-24-2013, 10:01 PM
I went to the Starbucks at my local mall earlier and got a Frappuccino drink. :D
Edit: It was pretty busy in there too.

jfifer
08-24-2013, 10:28 PM
I stopped by! I couldnt decide, so I go the usual. Big black coffee, and a vanila bean cold something and a chai something with soy hot.

A and O
08-24-2013, 10:28 PM
Just finished a Venti Iced Carmel Maciatto and will now go down the hill and get another one. Glad I came across this thread, I'll mention the reason for my double trip to the local SB.

Let's give voice to our support as well as the financial boost. Our enemies are giving voice, my way of shutting them up.

Just Because

Thanks for bringpng this to our attention OP and the rest.

---------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah, I'll be up until 3 or 4 am processing 223 brass.

jfifer
08-24-2013, 10:40 PM
Man.. I should go back too... It was good.... Is it wierd I always feel uncomfortable ordering there? I feel like I'm being looked down on for black coffee and not remembring those stupid sizes

Mojave Desert
08-24-2013, 10:53 PM
I did my usual SB stop w/ my daughter in the morning.
I took my wife and daughter in the evening.
I put a $2 bill in the tip jar!
Customer count seemed normal.

RonnieP
08-24-2013, 10:58 PM
Did they told the gun grabbers about the boycott? The starbucks I went to was pretty busy.

Javi
08-24-2013, 11:48 PM
Man.. I should go back too... It was good.... Is it wierd I always feel uncomfortable ordering there? I feel like I'm being looked down on for black coffee and not remembring those stupid sizes

I feel like I'm the only 20-something that doesn't know their sizes. I just say "small" or "medium" haha. I hadn't gone to Starbucks in years until these specific 2nd amendment related days there.

I tried out their new Peach iced tea lemondade thing and it was great. Also had a huge cookie & a cheesecake brownie. Kind of over did it with the sweets.

rayrayz
08-24-2013, 11:53 PM
I couldnt go back for seconds so I sent a co-worker to pick up some for the other co-workers. I hope it went well for starbucks.

jfifer
08-24-2013, 11:53 PM
Overdid it with good cause!

SonofWWIIDI
08-25-2013, 12:04 AM
Went to one on the way to gig this afternoon, was very slow. I asked the guy (turned out to be the manager) who rang me up if I had been slow today? He said slower than usual (maybe 4-5 people sitting inside, no line). Talked to him for a few minutes, and tipped a couple of dollars. As I put it in the tip jar, I said compliments of guns owners everywhere! Big smile on his face.

Gutz
08-25-2013, 12:07 AM
Just went and bought some coffees. Iced white chocolate mocha no whip!!!

Germz
08-25-2013, 12:56 AM
Starbucks in CA has made more money in one day from gun owners than the CGF has made all year I bet. After reading 4 pages of posts I find it rather ironic people are boasting about their monetary support to a morning beverage organization rather than just donating it to things that will actually make a difference.

I boycott Starbucks in general. $6 for a foo foo drink? keep it. and heres a tip of my hat at them for doing what should be a commonly accepted practice anyway.

mag360
08-25-2013, 1:29 AM
What do you mean 6 dollars? Only an idiot or kim kardashian buys those drinks..they arent even coffee. I got a cup of coffee, it was $1.60 and not that bad!

jfifer
08-25-2013, 1:33 AM
Big black coffee- 2.45 for me, and free refills. *****in!

AeroEngi
08-25-2013, 2:32 AM
Starbucks in CA has made more money in one day from gun owners than the CGF has made all year I bet. After reading 4 pages of posts I find it rather ironic people are boasting about their monetary support to a morning beverage organization rather than just donating it to things that will actually make a difference.

I boycott Starbucks in general. $6 for a foo foo drink? keep it. and heres a tip of my hat at them for doing what should be a commonly accepted practice anyway.

Dude their regular coffee is about $2.

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SanPedroShooter
08-25-2013, 7:06 AM
My wife manages a store in Palos Verdes. Everyone who left a tip, I appreciate it. I promise I will use it to further my C&R collection before 2014. ;)

Not that there are any open carriers around here... We fought and lost that battle.

Even though the store is in relatively red territory, although you can never tell with uber rich people, I would be surprised if any Calgunners made it all the way down here.

I do see NRA stickers in the lot occasionally.

SanPedroShooter
08-25-2013, 7:07 AM
And the autocorrect suggests 'ferrets' as the correction for 'calgunners' I am not joking.

CitaDeL
08-25-2013, 7:19 AM
Starbucks in CA has made more money in one day from gun owners than the CGF has made all year I bet. After reading 4 pages of posts I find it rather ironic people are boasting about their monetary support to a morning beverage organization rather than just donating it to things that will actually make a difference.

I am a little weary of the Starbucks threads both here and on FB. I am pleased we can get enough people motivated to both oppose and make trivial those efforts that would boycott an enterprise focused on minding their own business, but through the lens of our struggle against the California legislature, I wish we had the same level of participation, enthusiasm and success.

For every dollar spent on coffee purchased at Starbucks, there should be as many letters, phone calls and faxes to our Governor, urging a veto on all of the proposed legislation. For every photograph of a SB cup, there should be a photo of that same constituent meeting with their legislator.

SanPedroShooter
08-25-2013, 7:24 AM
I am a little weary of the Starbucks threads both here and on FB. I am pleased we can get enough people motivated to both oppose and make trivial those efforts that would boycott an enterprise focused on minding their own business, but through the lens of our struggle against the California legislature, I wish we had the same level of participation, enthusiasm and success.

For every dollar spent on coffee purchased at Starbucks, there should be as many letters, phone calls and faxes to our Governor, urging a veto on all of the proposed legislation. For every photograph of a SB cup, there should be a photo of that same constituent meeting with their legislator.

I personally agree 100%

I think a big part of this is rubbing it in the face of the hysterical opposition. There is some temporary satisfaction to be gained from that. Its also nice to see, and to show, that we are many.

Gun owners in CA would be much better off dealing with issues closer to home while gun owners in the US have a holiday.

ryno066
08-25-2013, 8:30 AM
My family all got the bucks yesterday.

223Devil
08-25-2013, 8:40 AM
Spent 11.50 Saturday

pitbull30
08-25-2013, 8:53 AM
I am a little weary of the Starbucks threads both here and on FB. I am pleased we can get enough people motivated to both oppose and make trivial those efforts that would boycott an enterprise focused on minding their own business, but through the lens of our struggle against the California legislature, I wish we had the same level of participation, enthusiasm and success.

For every dollar spent on coffee purchased at Starbucks, there should be as many letters, phone calls and faxes to our Governor, urging a veto on all of the proposed legislation. For every photograph of a SB cup, there should be a photo of that same constituent meeting with their legislator.

It's like the fake free gun stuff link in my signature. 4600 views and only 177 say they will participate or not. I'm a firm believer that if we can get average joe informed we will win.

Back to Starbucks. I failed them. Forgot all about it due to some family business.

MeatyMac
08-25-2013, 9:03 AM
I bought two cups of Pikes at 2 different Starbucks and also a pound of French roast yesterday here in Oakland all while wearing my GCA t-shirt with a M1 Garand spanning the shoulder blades across my back.

donw
08-25-2013, 9:24 AM
i feel a double espresso coming on...:driving::yes::cheers2:

voiceofreason
08-25-2013, 9:46 AM
The general public may "side" more often with the anti's, but they won't lift a finger to help them for the most part.

The anti's may be passionate, but there are like 8 of them in the entire state of CA that aren't politicians or in some elected position.

Gun owners are a small group in comparison to the general population of the state, but vastly outnumber the anti's in terms of # of people.

Gun owners also have more passionate supporters and activists.

The biggest issues issue is getting the "average" gun owner involved in the fight. Most are fine just getting a free ride, but the wagon is much slower with their as*es sitting in the wagon instead of helping to move it along.

If everyone that owned a gun dedicated just 5 emails a month ON THEIR OWN to whichever companies, politicians, etc they wanted, we'd have a tide change in a fairly short amount of time.

If companies received a regular stream of emails and snail mail from pro gun customers and constituents making clear what we want, it would affect the way they do things.

Currently, the perception is that the general public is anti-gun, so they bow to that.

If they felt the public was pro-gun/anti-gun control, they would bow to that just as quickly.

Not too many "no gun" signs in the rural parts of red states. They know they'd be out of business fairly quickly. Usually only chains or bars have them posted.

SanPedroShooter
08-25-2013, 10:01 AM
The general public may "side" more often with the anti's, but they won't lift a finger to help them for the most part.

The anti's may be passionate, but there are like 8 of them in the entire state of CA that aren't politicians or in some elected position.

Gun owners are a small group in comparison to the general population of the state, but vastly outnumber the anti's in terms of # of people.

Gun owners also have more passionate supporters and activists.

The biggest issues issue is getting the "average" gun owner involved in the fight. Most are fine just getting a free ride, but the wagon is much slower with their as*es sitting in the wagon instead of helping to move it along.

If everyone that owned a gun dedicated just 5 emails a month ON THEIR OWN to whichever companies, politicians, etc they wanted, we'd have a tide change in a fairly short amount of time.

If companies received a regular stream of emails and snail mail from pro gun customers and constituents making clear what we want, it would affect the way they do things.

Currently, the perception is that the general public is anti-gun, so they bow to that.

If they felt the public was pro-gun/anti-gun control, they would bow to that just as quickly.

Not too many "no gun" signs in the rural parts of red states. They know they'd be out of business fairly quickly. Usually only chains or bars have them posted.


'A mile wide and an inch deep' I've heard it described.

sharxbyte
08-25-2013, 1:44 PM
went there yesterday and spent more than my normal. I don't know if it was just a slow time (around 6:30pm) or of the "protest" on the enemy side was actually effective.

Dantedamean
08-25-2013, 2:32 PM
Pick from yesterday!

gblacksmith
08-25-2013, 2:33 PM
i feel a double espresso coming on...:driving::yes::cheers2:

Back in the old days, they used to call rifles for dangerous/large game "Express rifles" because they were 'expressly" for large game.

I wonder if a gunsmith would be interested in building an 'Espresso Rifle" for hunting the best bargains on large/dangerous bags of coffee beans.

Starbuck could launch a coffee safari...........

Glockroo
09-17-2013, 10:09 PM
BOO!! See Link (http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Starbucks-says-guns-unwelcome-though-not-banned-4823265.php)

I just went a few times in the past week to support them..grrr I am DONE!:(

Hiking CA
09-17-2013, 10:44 PM
BOO!! See Link (http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Starbucks-says-guns-unwelcome-though-not-banned-4823265.php)

I just went a few times in the past week to support them..grrr I am DONE!:(

They are my daily, down the road and on the way home work spot.

Make that, they were...

No mas Starsucks for myself, wife and three children. ( I also recently said no mas to Best Buy over their reluctance to price match.)

Corporate America is out of control!

njineermike
09-18-2013, 6:48 AM
Their coffee sucked anyway. I had to buy food on the appreciation days.

gogohopper
09-18-2013, 6:59 AM
BOO!! See Link (http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Starbucks-says-guns-unwelcome-though-not-banned-4823265.php)

I just went a few times in the past week to support them..grrr I am DONE!:(

UGH. Will never go and will let them know.

Hiking CA
09-18-2013, 9:37 AM
You can call Starbucks Customer Service at 800-782-7282 and let them know what you think of their recent request.

lawaia
09-18-2013, 9:43 AM
"In an interview, CEO Howard Schultz said the decision to ask customers to stop bringing guns into stores came as a result of the growing frequency of "Starbucks Appreciation Days" in recent months, in which gun rights advocates turn up at Starbucks cafes with firearms."

Seems like the same end result as the open carry demonstrations of past.

If you actually read the article, they are not asking "carrying" customers to leave. They just don't want the demonstrations at their stores.

Whiskey_Sauer
09-18-2013, 9:44 AM
Great job, again, open carriers. Great job.

CalBear
09-18-2013, 9:48 AM
Seems like the same end result as the open carry demonstrations of past.
Yup. They simply overdid it. Starbucks would not have changed their official policy had people just open carried on an individual basis. By adding appreciation days, holding large open carry gatherings at Starbucks, and creating an unauthorized marketing campaign, it was only a matter of time.

crackerman
09-18-2013, 9:52 AM
You can call Starbucks Customer Service at 800-782-7282 and let them know what you think of their recent request.

Call here guys, don't be an *** like this guy to the random counter guy or girl. They don't set corp policy, just trying to sling some cash. Tell off corporate till the phone breaks though.

Jg-jzlWcc0E

Nachoman
09-18-2013, 10:03 AM
Yup. They simply overdid it. Starbucks would not have changed their official policy had people just open carried on an individual basis. By adding appreciation days, holding large open carry gatherings at Starbucks, and creating an unauthorized marketing campaign, it was only a matter of time.

Yup, this was starbucks way of reinforcing their original message of "leave us out of it".

jorgyusa
09-18-2013, 10:03 AM
I think we should leave Starbucks alone. They are trying to got out of the middle of the politics and run their business.They specifically say they will not enforce the no firearms request. I don't see this as a big departure from there previous stand of following local law. Lets put our energy elsewhere, like writing to Brown to veto all the anti-rights bills.

Jorgy

Maestro Pistolero
09-18-2013, 10:07 AM
I think some in our movement have been unfair to Starbucks and so have our opponents. They have an absolute right to ban guns in their stores, but even now, they haven't done that. I have never seen a company strive so earnestly to remain neutral on an issue and both sides keep trying to drag them into the controversy.

This latest response is still as neutral as could be expected, and I intend to honor the spirit of their request, but not follow it to the letter. I will do as I have always done and carry concealed as discreetly possible.

I suggest we all do the same and support Starbucks incredible efforts to remain fair to us in the light of incredible pressure to do otherwise.

Sky_God
09-18-2013, 10:11 AM
Take time to read the open letter at starbucks.com and then make an informed decision.

a1c
09-18-2013, 10:12 AM
Let this be a lesson to some about the dangers of co-opting another organization.

You NEVER co-opt something else - corporation, organization, celebrity, politician, etc. - in order to advance your agenda or views unless you work closely with them.

fr33domfightr
09-18-2013, 11:18 AM
"In an interview, CEO Howard Schultz said the decision to ask customers to stop bringing guns into stores came as a result of the growing frequency of "Starbucks Appreciation Days" in recent months, in which gun rights advocates turn up at Starbucks cafes with firearms."

Seems like the same end result as the open carry demonstrations of past.

If you actually read the article, they are not asking "carrying" customers to leave. They just don't want the demonstrations at their stores.

So why didn't they just ask the groups encouraging this or sponsoring these events to not hold them, because some customers are afraid or don't like it?

Ronin2
09-18-2013, 11:20 AM
Great job, again, open carriers. Great job.

++++1

Starbucks is a BUSINESS, in business to serve the public, gun owners and non gun owners equally. The CEO has a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders to maximize corporate profits, not promote ANY personal political agenda. He can be fired and held liable if he makes mistakes that effect profitability of the company. HIS JOB IS TO SELL AS MUCH STARBUCKS PRODUCT AS POSSIBLE!!!

While he did not say that you cant do it, he asked that you refrain from making Starbucks a flash point in the debate to the point that it disrupts business... a perfectly understandable and reasonable position ANY business owner has the right to ask. Clearly the open carry idiots descending on a Starbucks location in groups scare off and upset the non gun owners. Seems simple enough... they want to keep everyone as customers and don't want to be a campaign rally point for open carry advocates just because they have not forbidden open carry.

The Neanderthal wing of the gun owning public have obtusely gone over the edge again and have taken a major corporation that was cool with open carry and PUSHED it in the direction of being more restrictive. Why cant these open carry fools that time they have on their hands and sign up new NRA members, raise money for the 2nd amendment foundation, register republican voters, protest anti gun politicians offices, protest anti gun business to raise public awareness, clean up a public shooting area or ANYTHING more constructive than sitting around chatting away while showing off their guns... LOL Clearly LAZYNESS may play into it......

NOTE: Starbucks still permits CCW in its stores unlike many businesses. Do we really want gun owning idiots to force Starbucks over the edge and ban all carry in their stores... cuz that's where all the "bubba's" are taking this.....

There is a lesson here somewhere but I suspect the subtleties are beyond the grasp of many of our open carry fellow gun owners. Another example of tactical and not strategic thinking....and we wonder why we are losing.......

a1c
09-18-2013, 1:41 PM
So why didn't they just ask the groups encouraging this or sponsoring these events to not hold them, because some customers are afraid or don't like it?

Probably because these were loose groups mostly locally based with no real leadership. Open carry buddies meeting up informally.

monaco
09-18-2013, 2:31 PM
People with enough sense to comprehend the importance of protecting our constitution and civil liberties, do not spend $5 on a latte... Starbucks knows this. They got out their calculators and figured they'd lose a whole 7 customers in each state, whilst refining their image for their primarily democratic customer base.

Nobody here's boycotting anything... Just a bunch of talk from people who don't patronize them anyway. If any of you lazy bastards want to make a difference, PICKET THEM like I did today.

fr33domfightr
09-18-2013, 4:03 PM
Probably because these were loose groups mostly locally based with no real leadership. Open carry buddies meeting up informally.

So, if they were just loose groups of people, what's the big deal with a companywide policy? The policy seems to focus on the pro 2A folks and not the anti's response confrontations.

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mavericksun
09-18-2013, 5:09 PM
Starbucks is a business and the CEO is accountable to the shareholders. If the CEO came out and openly stated that guns were banned, the backlash would be bad and would affect their bottom line. If they set policy where their partners had to kick out people carrying guns and there were violent confrontations, the company would be liable. Starbucks maintain in their memo that guns are not allowed in their shops and that is their official position. They just choose not to force their partners to force people out and cause more negative publicity. This is just a ploy for them to be anti-gun and not create more problems for themselves. You can go on defending their actions and stating that they are not anti-gun but the reality is that they are anti-gun. This is just more demonization of guns by the anti-gun crowd and the more you buy into it, the more people are going to feel it's ok to demonize guns. This is why "gun control" laws pass in CA easily, because it's seen as ok to demonize guns and the people who carry them. As for the acceptance of conceal versus open carry, it's like saying it's ok for you to be <insert your belief here> as long as you don't display it(jewelry, bumper stickers, etc.) and practice your beliefs out of public sight. It's just condoning the actions of hate groups.

hermosabeach
09-19-2013, 11:31 AM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=825657&highlight=starbucks

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=824975&highlight=starbucks

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=825664&highlight=starbucks
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=825232&highlight=starbucks
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=825232&highlight=starbucks
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=825197&highlight=starbucks
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=825272&highlight=starbucks
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=825105&highlight=starbucks

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=825097&highlight=starbucks
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=811554&highlight=starbucks
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=825226&highlight=starbucks
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=825078&highlight=starbucks
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=824980&highlight=starbucks

I think you are missing the point... Starbucks are still one of the biggest gun neutral / gun supporting companies....

The Douche Bags who open carry, film the police response, get arrogant with the cops all while the STARBUCKS logo is the background is the problem....

You will find HUNDREDS of open carry stops on your tube of the Open Carry Police interaction videos.... Filmed with Starbucks as the backdrop

Open carry folks in CA could have all become instructors and taught Boy Scouts, new shooters and Women how to shoot a firearm... but they chose to walk up and down the beach and such....

the result was turning the public against guns.... not building confidence and comfort around firearms....

Can we stop with all of the Starbucks Threads???????????

voiceofreason
09-21-2013, 9:39 AM
posted in comments from an article (don't remember where)


crismo99 on Sep 20, 5:30 PM said:
In an open letter from Howard Schultz to ask the public not to bring guns into Starbucks I have decided to agree to his request.
http://www.starbucks.com/blog/an-open-letter-from-howard-schultz/1268
Apparently I am a non desirable customer who has been coming to starbucks for years.
I am given Starbucks coffee cards on a regular bases from my wife who is given cards as a gift at work from co workers and from clients.
It has almost become a form of money with my fellow workers and clients as a way to say thanks!
So as of today I have given the three cards in my wallet and two additional cards I had at home totaling $78.54 to five different homeless people. Apparently Starbucks considers this portion of the population to be more desirable customers.
I will be giving every card I am given to another homeless person as I am sure they would like to get in out of the rain and enjoy a nice hot cup of coffee and a clean restroom here in Portland OR
I encourage everyone to do their part to help a homeless person feed themselves and why not at Starbucks.
They can even sit for hours out of the rain just like all the Hipsters do.
I am sure this new group of customers will help sales as they will be wanting to come back often.
I will never walk into another Starbucks as I am now an undesirable paying customer.
I will not give Starbucks cards to anyone else as there are many good coffee houses in the Portland area.

fr33domfightr
09-21-2013, 3:14 PM
posted in comments from an article (don't remember where)


crismo99 on Sep 20, 5:30 PM said:
In an open letter from Howard Schultz to ask the public not to bring guns into Starbucks I have decided to agree to his request.
http://www.starbucks.com/blog/an-open-letter-from-howard-schultz/1268
Apparently I am a non desirable customer who has been coming to starbucks for years.
I am given Starbucks coffee cards on a regular bases from my wife who is given cards as a gift at work from co workers and from clients.
It has almost become a form of money with my fellow workers and clients as a way to say thanks!
So as of today I have given the three cards in my wallet and two additional cards I had at home totaling $78.54 to five different homeless people. Apparently Starbucks considers this portion of the population to be more desirable customers.
I will be giving every card I am given to another homeless person as I am sure they would like to get in out of the rain and enjoy a nice hot cup of coffee and a clean restroom here in Portland OR
I encourage everyone to do their part to help a homeless person feed themselves and why not at Starbucks.
They can even sit for hours out of the rain just like all the Hipsters do.
I am sure this new group of customers will help sales as they will be wanting to come back often.
I will never walk into another Starbucks as I am now an undesirable paying customer.
I will not give Starbucks cards to anyone else as there are many good coffee houses in the Portland area.



LOL... Saw this post in another thread. You are very generous! It's a great idea, too!! And I must say, what a way to help out the homeless, by offering them the same cup 'o joe as the hipsters!

:)