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sd_shooter
08-14-2013, 1:06 PM
So with 2014 staring me in the face I'm looking for my first 'hunting' rifle. I've never hunted before (other than chipmunks etc.) but some day I'd like to shoot pigs or deer.

Anyway, I'd like:
- 270 caliber (Not critical, but this seems like a good compromise and Walmart stocks it even during ammo panics)
- Nothing too fancy (Synthetic stock ok)
- Budget $600 not including optics
- Prefer the Mauser action for no particular reason

Considering:
- Ruger M77
- Ruger American (can't even find it on Bud's)
- Remington 700

What do you have?

Chefantone
08-14-2013, 1:13 PM
I was recently looking for the same. One problem I had to overcome was finding a rifle that comes in lefty. After reading a few tests and reviews I went with the Savage 111 Trophy Hunter. It comes with a Nikon scope and I paid $529. I pick her up on Friday. :chef:

Kelster1574
08-14-2013, 1:26 PM
I have a 700 SPS Stainless in .270, GREAT gun!!! Kicks like a beast compared to my .308 but GREAT gun!!!! I think the standard 700 SPS runs about $600 most places. I would also check out the Tikka T3 Lite they run about $600 and Tikka's are one of the best shooting guns on the market......then again check out the Ruger American and save some $$$$$

golfish
08-14-2013, 1:35 PM
did ya try to order a rifle from Turners? They might not have it in stock but you should be able to order what you want.

If money isn't a problem, I would get a Rem 700 with a wood stock.

I really need to step it up and get one as well.

Good luck and let us know what you got.

The Paper Pimp
08-14-2013, 1:36 PM
I have an older Remington in 270.

270 is an EXCELLENT deer rifle

toby
08-14-2013, 1:41 PM
Weatherby Vanguard bar none.

newglockster
08-14-2013, 1:47 PM
Weatherby Vanguard S2 is what you want! :)

TMB 1
08-14-2013, 2:08 PM
Ruger M77, Savage 110, Remington 700 all good rifles.

Mr_Dunev
08-14-2013, 2:27 PM
There is a nice new Rem 700 in .270 in the marketplace

anti
08-14-2013, 2:29 PM
You don't need a particular reason to prefer the Mauser action - it's the best out there. :)

I'd say Remington 700. It's proven and parts can be found everywhere, literally.

Fjold
08-14-2013, 3:53 PM
So with 2014 staring me in the face I'm looking for my first 'hunting' rifle. I've never hunted before (other than chipmunks etc.) but some day I'd like to shoot pigs or deer.

Anyway, I'd like:
- 270 caliber (Not critical, but this seems like a good compromise and Walmart stocks it even during ammo panics)
- Nothing too fancy (Synthetic stock ok)
- Budget $600 not including optics
- Prefer the Mauser action for no particular reason

Considering:
- Ruger M77
- Ruger American (can't even find it on Bud's)
- Remington 700

What do you have?

None of the above are Mauser actions.

russ69
08-14-2013, 4:10 PM
None of the above are Mauser actions.

The M77 is a modified Mauser with claw extractor. I think Bill Ruger was a big fan of the Mauser, IIRC.

HAVOC5150
08-14-2013, 4:22 PM
I have a Weatherby Mark 5 .270 and that gun is amazing. I picked up a Savage with the Accu-trigger and I like the Accu-trigger a lot better. Check out several rifles, see how it feels when you shoulder it and ask if its ok to squeeze the trigger.

dlquinn71
08-14-2013, 4:22 PM
Don't over look the new Remington 783.

bitethebullet
08-14-2013, 4:24 PM
Personally I would look at a Ruger American or Savage Axis and throw some decent optics on it. This would leave you with some extra dough for practice. Those two rifles are perfectly capable of taking most medium size game throughout North America up to realistic ranges. Ihave owned both rifles in .308 and would lean slightly more towards the Ruger as it has a better (adjustable) trigger.

Just my $.02

IVC
08-14-2013, 4:45 PM
Winchester restarted production of the model 70 and the new rifles have the pre-64 Mauser action. I have two of them and really like them (neither in 270, though).

Alternatively, CZ makes rifles with Mauser action (I have 527 in 7.62x39), but I'm not sure of their other models.

Kimber uses proper Mauser action (I have a .308) and makes very nice rifles.

Interestingly, Sako action is a variant of Mauser action (although significantly different) and is quite nice. Sako-s are harder to find though.

Fjold
08-14-2013, 6:16 PM
The M77 is a modified Mauser with claw extractor. I think Bill Ruger was a big fan of the Mauser, IIRC.

Every rifle with a two lug bolt and claw extractor can be said to be designed after the Mauser action but that doesn't make them Mausers.

Bill Ruger may have been a big fan of Mauser actions but Jim Sullivan designed the Ruger M77 action.

Even though the Zastava, Mark X and CZ actions are called Mausers and they are much closer to the original Mauser, they do have their own design differences.

I own Ruger, Winchester and Zaastava rifles and you can easily see the differences.

Remus
08-14-2013, 7:59 PM
My 270 became my favorite rifle during this last ammo run :) but I don't recall hunting ammo being too scarce for the hunting calibers (e.g. 7mm Rem mag, or 30-06).

I like my Savage rifles, would recommend them as a new or used rifle in any caliber. I have an accutrigger on one and a self-installed aftermarket trigger on another (this one doesn't leave the bench).

Sporterized 1903 Springfields and Winchester 1917s fall easily within your price zone and have taken many game - one drawback to these is that they normally come with poor optics.

Summers
08-15-2013, 8:44 AM
Tagged for later, I have been thinking the same question as the OP I have wanted to compare a Tikka T3 lite and a Savage 111 FCNS side by side in a 270 for some time now.

NytWolf
08-15-2013, 9:42 AM
If you had a higher budget, I would recommend the Tikka T3 Lite or the Browning A-Bolt rifles. But since you're limited to $600, I would recommend the Weatherby Vanguard or Howa 1500.

As far as Mauser action goes, most modern bolt actions are all based off the Mauser action, with "improvements". IMO, the only advantage a true Mauser action has over other actions is, you can load and extract a cartridge upside-down or other unorthodoxed positions. How many times have you needed to do that?

sd_shooter
08-15-2013, 10:22 AM
If you had a higher budget, I would recommend the Tikka T3 Lite or the Browning A-Bolt rifles. But since you're limited to $600, I would recommend the Weatherby Vanguard or Howa 1500.

As far as Mauser action goes, most modern bolt actions are all based off the Mauser action, with "improvements". IMO, the only advantage a true Mauser action has over other actions is, you can load and extract a cartridge upside-down or other unorthodoxed positions. How many times have you needed to do that?

Good suggestion. Looks like it's also $600:
http://www.basspro.com/Tikka-T3-Lite-270-WIN-Rifle-Blue-Barrel-&-Synthetic-Stock/product/10218355/

Now I just need to find a local store that carries it or can order it. (San Diego)

jayreid02
08-15-2013, 11:00 AM
Maybe a Weatherby Vanguard S2

Divernhunter
08-15-2013, 12:13 PM
Tikka/Vanguard/Ruger or Savage then put a 3X9X40 or 3.5X10X40 Non-AO Duplex reticle Leupold scope on it and you are set for life. Use some quality base/ rings also and a Claw sling.
The Rem700/Ruger M77 and other are good rifles but cost more and do not shoot any better. Fact is most the rifles listed will outshoot most shooters.
"I" am not a big fan of the 270 but it does work. "I" would suggest a 7mm-08/260Rem/308win/30-06/25-06/257Roberts/no mags.

NytWolf
08-15-2013, 12:15 PM
Good suggestion. Looks like it's also $600:
http://www.basspro.com/Tikka-T3-Lite-270-WIN-Rifle-Blue-Barrel-&-Synthetic-Stock/product/10218355/

Now I just need to find a local store that carries it or can order it. (San Diego)

You found one. Great! It's a great rifle. You'll want to change out the recoil pad though once you get it.

Bikertrash
08-15-2013, 2:07 PM
I picked up a Ruger American Rifle with a scope new @ the Turners Temecula grand opening a couple weeks ago for $319.

Couldn't pass it up. Its still in Jail so not sure how it shoots yet. I have heard good things.

Divernhunter
08-15-2013, 9:04 PM
^ "RIVER" rifle? Do you mean Ruger? The Ruger American rifles I have shot were excellent shooters.

BayouBullets
08-20-2013, 8:58 PM
I didn't see a suggestion I disagreed with anywhere, but some went over your budget and a couple I think I have a better contender that was not mentioned. The Marlin XL7 is in the same budget range as the Savage Axis or Ruger American. I don't own one, but I run a club with a range and have my own private range at home, so I see them. All of the examples I've seen have had at least one factory ammo load that would shoot true one minute of arc groups CONSISTENTLY (The factory load the rifle hates the most is still inside 1.5 MOA). I have targets for 270, 308, and 30-06. It's true for all of them. Very competent "theft" of the best improvement ideas of the last century rolled into one very reasonably priced rifle. IMHO it's the best bargain on the market.

CRTguns
08-20-2013, 9:08 PM
Ever thought of Tikka T3 lite?

It's under $700.
Guaranteed 1" accuracy.
6lb 3 ounces (lightest rifle under $1200)
Detacheable mag
Adjustable trigger
Includes medium 1" rings.
Tikka brand name on rifles for over 120 years.

This recipe really cannot be beaten by anybody at twice the cost.

2ND place recommend- vanguard or Howa. Really accurate... They have good sako style extractors. Trigger can be tuned up beautifully. But they are notable heavier than Tikka. And detach mag is extra $.

CRTguns
08-20-2013, 9:15 PM
Winchester restarted production of the model 70 and the new rifles have the pre-64 Mauser action. I have two of them and really like them (neither in 270, though).

Alternatively, CZ makes rifles with Mauser action (I have 527 in 7.62x39), but I'm not sure of their other models.

Kimber uses proper Mauser action (I have a .308) and makes very nice rifles.

Interestingly, Sako action is a variant of Mauser action (although significantly different) and is quite nice. Sako-s are harder to find though.

The Sako "A" series used to put a phony gas baffle along the side just to LOOK like a mauser's extractor- this was so they could sell the gun to the old timers of the day that grew up seeing that bar along side the bolt.

The old, true mausers from Sako are amazing guns- grab it if you can find it. Or settle for a Husqvarna. Easier to find.

Guapoh
08-20-2013, 9:40 PM
Get a 700. Great place to start, and finish.

jmzhwells
08-20-2013, 9:40 PM
I vote Tikka T3 also. Its a sako rifle w/out the frills. Shoot great, adjustable trigger, scope mounts included. You will like the Tikka guaranteed. I think the blue on synthetic is less than 600 on budsgunshop.com. Or the marlin bolts are supposed to be good for the price. Well speaking of marlins get a lever action and you will never complain.

Guapoh
08-20-2013, 9:41 PM
Certainly love my Sako.

frankm
08-20-2013, 10:34 PM
Good suggestion. Looks like it's also $600:
http://www.basspro.com/Tikka-T3-Lite-270-WIN-Rifle-Blue-Barrel-&-Synthetic-Stock/product/10218355/

Now I just need to find a local store that carries it or can order it. (San Diego)

You can order it and have it shipped to many FFL's in San Diego such as Gussler's.

ExtremeX
08-20-2013, 10:56 PM
Tikka T3 Lite gets my vote for a hunting rifle. The action on those things are butter smooth and excellent accurate shooters out of the box.

stix213
08-21-2013, 12:07 AM
So with 2014 staring me in the face I'm looking for my first 'hunting' rifle. I've never hunted before (other than chipmunks etc.) but some day I'd like to shoot pigs or deer.

Anyway, I'd like:
- 270 caliber (Not critical, but this seems like a good compromise and Walmart stocks it even during ammo panics)
- Nothing too fancy (Synthetic stock ok)
- Budget $600 not including optics
- Prefer the Mauser action for no particular reason

Considering:
- Ruger M77
- Ruger American (can't even find it on Bud's)
- Remington 700

What do you have?

Yeah I've been thinking about something in 270 after noticing that 270 is guaranteed available even in the worst of times.

DannyInSoCal
08-21-2013, 12:12 AM
Look for a Mauser FR8 in .308Win -

Great carbine for around $450 -

Plus if you fnd it local or have a C&R -

No DROS or registration.....

Gnome
08-21-2013, 12:27 AM
Get a 700. Great place to start, and finish.
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Yeah I've been thinking about something in 270 after noticing that 270 is guaranteed available even in the worst of times.

This is true. I was at the local Wal-Mart (Duarte) tonight, and the only calibers in stock were 30-06 and .270.

duckman1
08-21-2013, 6:07 AM
I have 3 of the 700's and I'm currently looking to add another in .375

You can't go wrong with the Remington and most shoot better than we ever will right out of the box.

ExtremeX
08-21-2013, 9:59 AM
I am a Remington fan myself, have a couple, love the platform, but when it comes to a hunting package, Tikka T3 Lite wins in my book.

It’s just a better more refined gun; nothing needs an upgrade out of the box. With the Remington, I tend to go to town with upgrades the second I take it out of the box.

NytWolf
08-21-2013, 10:13 AM
If you had a higher budget, I would recommend the Tikka T3 Lite or the Browning A-Bolt rifles. But since you're limited to $600, I would recommend the Weatherby Vanguard or Howa 1500.


Good suggestion. Looks like it's also $600:
http://www.basspro.com/Tikka-T3-Lite-270-WIN-Rifle-Blue-Barrel-&-Synthetic-Stock/product/10218355/

Now I just need to find a local store that carries it or can order it. (San Diego)

Ever thought of Tikka T3 lite?

It's under $700.
Guaranteed 1" accuracy.
6lb 3 ounces (lightest rifle under $1200)
Detacheable mag
Adjustable trigger
Includes medium 1" rings.
Tikka brand name on rifles for over 120 years.

This recipe really cannot be beaten by anybody at twice the cost.

2ND place recommend- vanguard or Howa. Really accurate... They have good sako style extractors. Trigger can be tuned up beautifully. But they are notable heavier than Tikka. And detach mag is extra $.

I vote Tikka T3 also. Its a sako rifle w/out the frills. Shoot great, adjustable trigger, scope mounts included. You will like the Tikka guaranteed. I think the blue on synthetic is less than 600 on budsgunshop.com. Or the marlin bolts are supposed to be good for the price. Well speaking of marlins get a lever action and you will never complain.

He already found one for $599.99.

Garandimal
08-21-2013, 10:46 PM
Now, for the feeding...

270 Win 150 grain Soft Point Prvi Partizan Ammo PP262 (http://www.sgammo.com/product/prvi-partizan/20-round-box-270-win-150-grain-soft-point-prvi-partizan-ammo-pp262) - $15.95 (10 or more $14.95)

Shipping for 10 boxes was $12... 20 boxes was $15.


http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/primary/212/212486.jpg

Bikertrash
08-22-2013, 3:45 PM
Yeah I've been thinking about something in 270 after noticing that 270 is guaranteed available even in the worst of times. That's why I bought one in .270 and not in .308. All my Wal-Mart ever has in stock is .243, .270, and 7mm

Cypriss32
08-22-2013, 4:03 PM
So with 2014 staring me in the face I'm looking for my first 'hunting' rifle. I've never hunted before (other than chipmunks etc.) but some day I'd like to shoot pigs or deer.

Anyway, I'd like:
- 270 caliber (Not critical, but this seems like a good compromise and Walmart stocks it even during ammo panics)
- Nothing too fancy (Synthetic stock ok)
- Budget $600 not including optics
- Prefer the Mauser action for no particular reason

Considering:
- Ruger M77
- Ruger American (can't even find it on Bud's)
- Remington 700

What do you have?

Possibly look into tikka T3 stainless of T/C venture stainless. I think those are the BEST out of the box hunting rifles. The T/C will set you back 482.99 SHIPPED from buds in stock, i think the tikka is a little higher.

TheExiled
08-22-2013, 4:24 PM
I build my own 270 Deer Mauser, I'm about $300 into it without optics so far and it's exactly what I want, nothing more

mcmikeblues7
08-22-2013, 4:40 PM
Make sure to leave enough money for optics. A good deer rifle needs a quality scope.

7anthony7
08-26-2013, 8:40 AM
270win is one of my favorite calibers now. Keep an eye out and post something on the wtb forum. I did and a fellow calgunner emailed a shop with an older browning bar Belgium made. I got it for under 700 and the bore is pristine. Great rifle for just about anything but I bought for deer in Missouri as it helps with the thick brush and I like iron sites. I have an -06, 308, 30-30, and 300 rum and always bring the 270 as a primary or backup rifle depending on the game. Enjoy hunting.

ciscollector
08-30-2013, 11:00 AM
I just ordered a Remington 700 in stainless and .270 from Brian Ambrose at Ambrose Armory in Escondido. He beat most online dealer prices and I didn't have to pay the transfer fee since he was able to order my rifle directly. Check with him as to how much he can get your choice for you. This will be my first Remington 700, .270 and I will be using it this year for deer. Ammo seems to be easily available so that factored into my decision. I did a lot of research and own quite a few different calibers and rifles. My other options included the Tikka T3 lite, M70, and vanguard.

wilafur
08-30-2013, 2:51 PM
another tikka t3 lite fan. have it in .308 and it's not only light but a consistent tack driver.

DennisCA
08-30-2013, 7:06 PM
May I suggest:
http://imageshack.us/a/img23/2489/270overview.jpg
Winchester Model 70 - In .270 (with a 3X9 Burris scope)

I've had this gun since the early 80's, had it in all types of weather (rain/snow/ect) and shot a bunch of deer with it. The shots ranged from (almost) point-blank to 250 yards. Most of them have dropped in their tracks, a couple went 50 yards and then dropped dead. I never had any problems with it; as the old saying goes "you do your part - the gun will it's part" (or something like that...)

23 Blast
09-02-2013, 7:31 PM
That's a real beaut, DennisCA! :)

hchinaski
09-02-2013, 8:10 PM
I just picked up an early 1960s Firearms International "Musketeer" rifle in .270, with an FN-manufactured Mauser bolt action and a vintage 4x Lyman scope in stunning condition for about 5 bills. Look out for Sears and Roebuck "JC Higgins" models from the 50s, they have the same FN action and chrome lined barrels from High Standard - don't be turned off by the Sears name, these are seriously high quality rifles offered in .270 and 30-06.

wpage
09-03-2013, 7:50 AM
270 a great choice. Rem 700, Savage, Ruger, all excellent platforms

sd_shooter
09-03-2013, 8:34 PM
I just ordered a Remington 700 in stainless and .270 from Brian Ambrose at Ambrose Armory in Escondido. He beat most online dealer prices and I didn't have to pay the transfer fee since he was able to order my rifle directly. Check with him as to how much he can get your choice for you. This will be my first Remington 700, .270 and I will be using it this year for deer. Ammo seems to be easily available so that factored into my decision. I did a lot of research and own quite a few different calibers and rifles. My other options included the Tikka T3 lite, M70, and vanguard.

Thanks for the tip on Ambrose! I just DROSed a Tikka T3 Lite in Stainless, 270. I got a great deal on it and only $100 down, had to special order but price was the same as the best web deals.

Now for some glass...

DennisCA
09-05-2013, 1:17 PM
Now, for the feeding...

270 Win 150 grain Soft Point Prvi Partizan Ammo PP262 (http://www.sgammo.com/product/prvi-partizan/20-round-box-270-win-150-grain-soft-point-prvi-partizan-ammo-pp262) - $15.95 (10 or more $14.95)

Shipping for 10 boxes was $12... 20 boxes was $15.


http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/primary/212/212486.jpg

When I reloaded (I was using a buddies stuff, just bought the bullets/powder/primers/brass) I used a 140 gr bullet, backed with 53 grains of IMR 4350. I had really good groups with that combo, better than the 130 or 150 gr bullets. When I did my part (shooting straight) the bullet did it's part - very well!
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