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Jeff L
08-11-2013, 9:23 AM
From the Presidents rifle match. Lot of ARs.
http://cmp1.zenfolio.com/p260057858

Ahhnother8
08-11-2013, 10:20 AM
From the Presidents rifle match. Lot of ARs.
http://cmp1.zenfolio.com/p260057858

Did you go? Our CA teams did very well this year.

Jeff L
08-11-2013, 10:54 AM
No, it's on my to-do list. I want to do some more local competitions first.

cfm117
08-11-2013, 1:59 PM
My last trip was 2010. Good times. Ramping up now for the Western Games in Oct in AZ.

Chaos47
08-11-2013, 2:25 PM
From the Presidents rifle match. Lot of ARs.
http://cmp1.zenfolio.com/p260057858

Sorry thats just not possible these military killing machines have no place on our streets and serve no legal purpose! JK JK :rolleyes:

Cool photos!

jakuda
08-11-2013, 3:18 PM
The pistol championships were earlier in July and well attended. Top Shop reality-tv show contestant Brian Zins won again.

russ69
08-11-2013, 5:15 PM
From the Presidents rifle match. Lot of ARs....

It's a service rifle match, the AR-15 is the gun to shoot. It's also the cheapest and easiest to work on. I still like my M1A SuperMatch but not many of us left.

Tok36
08-11-2013, 7:37 PM
Great pics, interesting stuff.

Are they required to use stock rifles?. I was surprised there were no custom grips or other mods.

Also what are the special monocle like eye wear some of them were using. I have never seen them before.

russ69
08-11-2013, 7:56 PM
...Are they required to use stock rifles?....

The Presidents 100 is a service rifle highpower match that requires a NRA legal service rifle. The rules for service rifle, and this is a big generalization, is that it looks like the issued rifle. However they are, in most cases, custom built full on target rifles, but to the untrained they will appear to be stock rifles.
Not to confuse the issue but in highpower shooting (except the Presidents 100 and leg matches) service rifles are shot alongside NRA match rifles and compete for the same prizes. Match rifles can be very modified rifles and some are referred to as "space guns" because of their out of this world appearance.

Merc1138
08-11-2013, 8:01 PM
The Presidents 100 is a service rifle highpower match that requires a NRA legal service rifle. The rules for service rifle, and this is a big generalization, is that it looks like the issued rifle. However they are, in most cases, custom built full on target rifles, but to the untrained they will appear to be stock rifles.
Not to confuse the issue but in highpower shooting (except the Presidents 100 and leg matches) service rifles are shot alongside NRA match rifles and compete for the same prizes. Match rifles can be very modified rifles and some are referred to as "space guns" because of their out of this world appearance.

Right. But so someone who doesn't know what the major differences are can understand...

You've got upgraded triggers, freefloat tubes(even if those look like stock rifle length handguards, they're freefloated), and fairly heavy barrel profiles. Also possibly lead weights in the handguards and stock compartments.

http://www.whiteoakarmament.com/xcart/images/D/d-17516-01.jpg

With a tube like this sitting under the handguards to freefloat them
http://www.compasslake.com/images2/float_1.jpg

While this is something that some might refer to as a space gun due to the adjustable stock, plan handguard tube, side charging upper, different irons, etc.
http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/whitleyARX.jpg

Tok36
08-11-2013, 8:50 PM
Interesting, thanks guys. I will have to research this further.

dachan
08-11-2013, 10:36 PM
It's been a long time since I've shot on grass.

The Presidents 100 is a service rifle highpower match that requires a NRA legal service rifle. The rules for service rifle, and this is a big generalization, is that it looks like the issued rifle. However they are, in most cases, custom built full on target rifles, but to the untrained they will appear to be stock rifles.

Interesting, thanks guys. I will have to research this further.

In NRA Highpower, NRA match rifle class is anything that is not service rifle. Service rifle definitions actually come from the CMP not NRA, and can be found in the CMP Rulebook (Chapter 6.0),
http://www.odcmp.com/Competitions/Rulebook.pdf

Not to confuse the issue but in highpower shooting (except the Presidents 100 and leg matches) service rifles are shot alongside NRA match rifles and compete for the same prizes. Match rifles can be very modified rifles and some are referred to as "space guns" because of their out of this world appearance.

If you're talking about the National Matches, all the National Trophy Matches shot the first week must be shot with service rifle to count for score, including Presidents 100, National Trophy Individual or NTI (Leg Match ), National Trophy Infantry Team Match or NTIT (Rattle Battle), and National Trophy Team Match or NTT (Team Match).

glock7
08-12-2013, 5:12 AM
From the Presidents rifle match. Lot of ARs.
http://cmp1.zenfolio.com/p260057858

great pics, good work, thanks for posting.

Zartan
08-12-2013, 5:41 AM
Shouldered nicely! :facepalm:


http://cmp1.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v98/p1643179503-2.jpg (http://CMP1.zenfolio.com/p260057858/e61f0edef)

RugerNo1
08-12-2013, 6:54 AM
^Didn't take long for an ignorant comment.

The shooters are not interested in absorbing the recoil of those 18 pound A2s...

ocabj
08-12-2013, 7:11 AM
Shouldered nicely! :facepalm:


http://cmp1.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v98/p1643179503-2.jpg (http://CMP1.zenfolio.com/p260057858/e61f0edef)

Try shooting 200 yard slow fire standing and I guarantee you'll be shooting with the exact same shoulder stock position. Either that, or you'll probably shoot somewhere in the 60's out of 100.

My only criticism is that the shooter's sling is too loose. Parade tight is how I prefer to shoot.

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Merc1138
08-12-2013, 7:37 AM
Shouldered nicely! :facepalm:


http://cmp1.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v98/p1643179503-2.jpg (http://CMP1.zenfolio.com/p260057858/e61f0edef)

lol, trying to mock the guy in the picture without having any understanding of what's going on.
http://www.funnyimages.biz/content/icons/soccer-fail-icon-1.jpg

proraptor
08-12-2013, 8:02 AM
Lol

russ69
08-12-2013, 12:58 PM
...You've got upgraded triggers, freefloat tubes(even if those look like stock rifle length handguards, they're freefloated), and fairly heavy barrel profiles. Also possibly lead weights in the handguards and stock compartments.
That's a start. I also have windage adjustment front sight base, set screwed front sight post, pin railed rear sight, rear sight hood (may have lens), etc...

In NRA Highpower, NRA match rifle class is anything that is not service rifle.
Not 100% true. A match rifle is a rifle that conforms to match rifle rules, some rifles don't.


Service rifle definitions actually come from the CMP not NRA,..
I knew somebody would post that. In my day it was NRA and the DCM, now obsolete.


If you're talking about the National Matches, all the National Trophy Matches shot the first week must be shot with service rifle to count for score,...
Yes but "The National Match" competition is shot with either service or match rifles as you already know.

My only criticism is that the shooter's sling is too loose. Parade tight is how I prefer to shoot...
I prefer no sling, that's why I shoot a match rifle! How do you ever see those tiny sights on a service rifle, LOL? Congrats on your distinguished badge.

Jeff L
08-12-2013, 1:13 PM
For CMP matches I don't believe you can use the sling while shooting off hand.

russ69
08-12-2013, 1:27 PM
For CMP matches I don't believe you can use the sling while shooting off hand.

For service rifle you must have the sling attached but you cannot use it for support, however you can include it into your grip if you wish. For a match rifle, you can remove the sling.

viper37
08-12-2013, 1:49 PM
Shouldered nicely! :facepalm:


http://cmp1.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v98/p1643179503-2.jpg (http://CMP1.zenfolio.com/p260057858/e61f0edef)

http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/picture/goclaygo/scaryblackdude.jpg

Arkangel
08-12-2013, 5:20 PM
^^^^ :rofl2:

mcmikeblues7
08-12-2013, 6:24 PM
Shouldered nicely! :facepalm:


http://cmp1.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v98/p1643179503-2.jpg (http://CMP1.zenfolio.com/p260057858/e61f0edef)

Those rifles are HEAVY. The recoil is non existent. These shooters know what they are doing. I saw a high master put 10 shots all within the 10 ring standing during the rapid fire. I know because I was pulling his target stand and I saw the rounds hit immediately from a few feet away.

4literranger485
08-12-2013, 6:36 PM
LOLZ, internet guru wants to criticize a national match shooter......