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oaklander
12-12-2007, 9:29 PM
I just got two more Romy "G" kits. One's a 1986 and the other is a 1981, as far as anyone knows, are they the same, or were there quality control issues with certain years?

The reason I ask is that the 1986 kit looks somewhat better than the 1981 kit. The wood is nicer, and the bluing looks better. Both appear to have been test-fired only.

Thoughts, anyone?

:)

wayoutwest
12-12-2007, 9:37 PM
There is talk on the other AK boards of there being better years but I cant recall what years they were.

It would make sense that the '86 is nicer than the '81, since it is 5 years younger.:D

rssslvr
12-12-2007, 9:40 PM
I have heard after a certain year QC went down.I think it was 1983 but I'm not 100% sure on that.

oaklander
12-12-2007, 9:50 PM
I have heard after a certain year QC went down.I think it was 1983 but I'm not 100% sure on that.

I heard something like that too. I'll have to take a closer look at the machining on the two kits.

thedrickel
12-12-2007, 9:59 PM
Yep, there is discussion on the AK Files about this. One member has an uncle or something that worked at Cugir and was around when they rounded up the skilled gunsmiths in '83 after the failed coup. Supposedly the quality went down after that and really went down in '86. I have a couple '86s and they have off center screw slots and one sight base is off to the side but within the windage adjustment, but nothing major and they shoot OK.

I'll try to dig up the link . . . [edit, here it is]:

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31005

Actually, after 83 ya will notice quite a few differences if ya put a post 83 beside a pre 83, if ya go to the thread bout 1978 Rommy G kit there are some of the points listed in that one rather than retype all of em......

Ronin, my uncle was one of em who was jailed, as mentioned awhile back when he defected here was 1988 he was incarcerated those 5 years, he has very mixed feelings about having left the year before he would have finally seen justice, 2 of my cousins were members of the unit that was given the job of ridding Romania of Ceausescu but neither has ever answered if they actually pulled the triggers, they just say that leading up to the trials and afterwards ALL of the people of Romania pulled the triggers that eliminated the tyranny, When my uncle and one of his sons escorted me and my partner to visit the arsenals for the first time it was also his first time back to his home since he defected, he commented MANY times on how much better the QC was in the days before Ceausescu ordered him and all the other supervisors at Cugir taken into custody, these old men were true craftsmen in the art of arms production it was a tradition passed from father to son for generations....... after the 83 coup attempt and the cleaning house Ceausescu put his brother in charge of the arsenals his philosophy was to replace all of the old world craftsmen with younger men who had zero heritage in the weapons manufacturing so that they would not have the motivation to aid another coup attempt.... thats why when ya look at post and pre 83 guns side by side there are such wide differences in the quality, little things like the barrels being better finished on the older guns, the gas tube latches just bein half bradded down while the pre 83s they were carefully peened down the tolerances for barrel quality were loosened up so that fewer barrels would fail inspection etc.... the biggest thing though was the discontinuing of forging parts for the cheaper casting process instead which didn't require so much finall machining........ yep the political atmosphere at any given time is the key to quality when it comes to Milsurps..

oaklander
12-12-2007, 10:30 PM
Good to know. Thanks Drick!!!

Yep, there is discussion on the AK Files about this. One member has an uncle or something that worked at Cugir and was around when they rounded up the skilled gunsmiths in '83 after the failed coup. Supposedly the quality went down after that and really went down in '86. I have a couple '86s and they have off center screw slots and one sight base is off to the side but within the windage adjustment, but nothing major and they shoot OK.

I'll try to dig up the link . . . [edit, here it is]:

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31005

PLINK
12-13-2007, 4:15 PM
I personally like the kits that were made in the late 70's. The 70's kits I received were '76, '78 and a '79. They all have better parking and milling then the '85 I have. The triangle with the arrow in it (on front trunnion of 70's kits) is also cool.

Bladewurk
12-13-2007, 5:22 PM
I've seen good and bad from the same years! just buy 10 and keep the good ones,sell off the bad ones..