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kroniclove
11-22-2007, 10:07 AM
Hey guys

Turners is having a sale on their remington 700. Three diff models to choose from . SPS, SPS Varmint, And Stainless. My question is which one would you guys recommend me getting. I check it out on the forums and they seem to be closely related and not much of a big difference. i am just looking for a model that shoot really nice out of the box, and eventually can start upgrading it.

thanks

http://www.turners.com/engage/displayad2007.php?img=../siteimages/holiday2007/page28.gif&id=28

OutlawDon
11-22-2007, 10:10 AM
What's your intended usage for it?

I'd personally get the SPS Varmint since I like rifles with heavy barrels, plus it's a cool looking rifle. :)

Here's a good review on it... http://www.snipercentral.com/remspsv.htm

Prc329
11-22-2007, 10:38 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/naytwan/Guns/DSC01214.jpg

Started life as an sps varmint.

Overkill
11-22-2007, 10:44 AM
It depends on what you are looking to use the rifle for. The SPS is now the lower-grade 700 rifle. If you are looking for a hunting rifle that will be carried a lot, I would not get the Varmint because of the weight. However, if you are looking for a range gun, and the weight doesn't bother you, then go for the varmint version. Another thought- there are the SPS Tactical rifles. They have shorter, heavy barrels. They may be a good compromise beween the standard SPS and Varmint as far as weight is concerned.

Either the Varmint or Tactical models will be very accurate.

Prc329
11-22-2007, 11:04 AM
The tactical comes with a better stock. That will be my next purchase. One in 223.

Prc329
11-22-2007, 12:18 PM
Oh, one other thing. The finish on the sps tactical is crap. If you will be painting it that should not be much of a concern though. The actual barrels action on the sps varmint is the same as the 700 pss.

Mize
11-22-2007, 1:24 PM
.308 Varmint for the heavy barrel.

jkasandiego
11-22-2007, 3:21 PM
Purchased the remy 700 sps varmint in 308 yesterday from Socal Gun here in San Diego and they match Turner's advertised price. :)
Turner's Clairemont don't have a stock in 308.

Prc329
11-22-2007, 6:18 PM
Purchased the remy 700 sps varmint in 308 yesterday from Socal Gun here in San Diego and they match Turner's advertised price. :)
Turner's Clairemont don't have a stock in 308.

That is how I got mine.

M1Shooter
11-22-2007, 6:32 PM
First you need to determine if you want a long action or a short action. Then decide what you are going to use the rifle for. Think you better hold off and do some more research to make absolutely sure what you're getting into and what your goals are. Best of luck!

capitol
11-22-2007, 7:22 PM
Save your money and get a Savage Rifle. Remington is a fine product as is Savage for a LOT less $$$

rksimple
11-22-2007, 7:27 PM
If you plan on upgrading it, like you mention in your post, go with a 700. This is coming from a guy with 3 savages....and 2 700's on the way

kroniclove
11-22-2007, 8:01 PM
thanks for all the replies. i was thinking of getting a savage but never really had any exp with them before. i knew the remington 700 is a popular model among other gun enthusiast, thats why i was going toward this route. i dont really plan on doing any hunting with this rifle but rather shooting at the gun range at long distances. (300yrds+). right now i am stuck between reming 700, ar15, or sa m1a.

kroniclove
11-22-2007, 8:04 PM
also i know that its pretty darn hard to get a 700 in .308 at turners. the sales guy told me that it is always sold out...

jkasandiego
11-24-2007, 7:30 PM
So Cal Guns in Convoy, SD, has 3 in stock.

rksimple
11-24-2007, 8:14 PM
Jerrys Sports Center, a distributor, has been out of stock on the sps varmint in 308 for the last few months. Get one if you can...

r08ert209cali
01-03-2008, 1:38 AM
I bought a model 700 sps stainless in 270wsm.for the price you cant beat a 700 action for reliability and accuracy out of the box. I picked this riffle for its light weight and easy care.Its used for deer hunting in ca. and shoots tight groups at the range. recoil in this chambering is prety light gun and bushnell elite 3x9 scope and mounts around 1000 total

Shotgunner2
01-25-2008, 10:12 PM
Just curious, were either of the three sps tactical in .308?

So Cal Guns in Convoy, SD, has 3 in stock.

Blacky
01-25-2008, 10:24 PM
Turners... Abraham Lincoln works at the Fountain Valley store... he's a little senile now though. Personally Ive had experiences with Turners when their "sale" items were as much as 20% more expensive than the MSRP. They might match the price if you call them on it.

To be fair this only happened twice :rolleyes:

dfletcher
01-25-2008, 11:40 PM
Hey guys

Turners is having a sale on their remington 700. Three diff models to choose from . SPS, SPS Varmint, And Stainless. My question is which one would you guys recommend me getting. I check it out on the forums and they seem to be closely related and not much of a big difference. i am just looking for a model that shoot really nice out of the box, and eventually can start upgrading it.

thanks

http://www.turners.com/engage/displayad2007.php?img=../siteimages/holiday2007/page28.gif&id=28

Of the three you mentioned and for your purpose - target shooting up to 300 yds - I think the Varmint model is the one to get. I think the SPS is a hunting rifle and not a heavy barrel target type, correct?

So far as actions are concerned, one 700 is pretty much like the other, the difference is in barrels and stocks primarily when we're talking of plain old factory offerings.

I have a VLS in 6mm Remington and it is very accurate. I reload so that helps although factory ammo is very good in general. You can't go wrong with a heavy barreled 700 so far as accuracy is concerned.

I also have a Remington PSS in 7 Rem Mag (good deal $ $700.00) and although I'm not a synthetic stock person, it is a McMillian and I like the fit. The metal finish is some sort of crackle epoxy matte type, very utilitarian.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=90581179

You can get the PSS in quite a few different calibers. I think it's a good buy.

And, I have a Savage 12BVSS in 300 WSM, you can get it in other calibers, & it's a great shooter. It usually beats my Sig STR in 300 WM, costs about 1/2 as much.

Jicko
01-26-2008, 2:28 AM
1) get .308, very available, great, commerical ammo... that is match grade

2) get into reloading, that's the ONLY way to go

3) get the 26" heavy barrel

4) get a good scope on it!

Personally, I use a Rem700PSS w/ a Leupold Mark 4. :-)

californiahunter93
01-26-2008, 12:04 PM
Go with a savage, my 12FV is more accurate than my friends SPS Varmint M700s in 308. The savage accu trigger is alot better then the new X-mark remington trigger and if you do want upgrades go to sharpshootersupply.com, they have lots of upgrades and will make or special order somthing if they dont have it.

gcrtkd
01-27-2008, 12:04 PM
1) get .308, very available, great, commerical ammo... that is match grade

2) get into reloading, that's the ONLY way to go

3) get the 26" heavy barrel

4) get a good scope on it!

Personally, I use a Rem700PSS w/ a Leupold Mark 4. :-)


Hey Jicko (& anyone else who knows...)--

I am looking into investing in a 700 SPS-V, 26" heavy barrel w/ a Leupold M4... I'm just stuck on which scope to get. I want it with Mil-Dots and the BDC. The scopes are pricey, so I want to make sure that I get the appropriate one. I've come across:

-Leupold Mark 4 16 x 40 LR/T M1 Mil Dot Reticle Rifle-Scopes? $1500
-Leupold Mark 4 LRT 3.5-10 X 40 Black Matte, Illuminated Mil Dot, M1, 53668 $1180

I'm sure there are others as well. Can you give me the lay of the land in terms of what would be insufficient and what would be too much scope for this gun?

-thanks!
-gcrtkd

PistolPete75
01-27-2008, 12:10 PM
sps varmint, and i like the sps varmint stainless. stainless always appealed to me due to better construction material.

PistolPete75
01-27-2008, 12:18 PM
Hey Jicko (& anyone else who knows...)--

I am looking into investing in a 700 SPS-V, 26" heavy barrel w/ a Leupold M4... I'm just stuck on which scope to get. I want it with Mil-Dots and the BDC. The scopes are pricey, so I want to make sure that I get the appropriate one. I've come across:

-Leupold Mark 4 16 x 40 LR/T M1 Mil Dot Reticle Rifle-Scopes? $1500
-Leupold Mark 4 LRT 3.5-10 X 40 Black Matte, Illuminated Mil Dot, M1, 53668 $1180

I'm sure there are others as well. Can you give me the lay of the land in terms of what would be insufficient and what would be too much scope for this gun?

-thanks!
-gcrtkd

you can never have too much scope for a tactical rifle. i love mark 4 glass which in my opinion has a very clear glass, better than ior. the 3.5-10x is good. i have a mark 4 6.5-20x, and it's worked well for me. others will tell you ior is good. my latest scope is a us optics sn3 which cost as much as my rifle did. i'm switching over to a front focal plane sytle scope with mil adjustments.

my advice to you is, try as many scopes out as possible before buying. there are just too many variations and brands out there. it just depends on what you really want, and how much your willing to spend. the ones i would consider are: leupold (mark 4 only), ior, nf, nikon, us optics, some bushnells, and s&b.

i don't recommend super snipers anymore. mushy knobs, unreliable construction. (i have one so i'm not hating)

Blacky
01-27-2008, 12:41 PM
My Remington PSS 700 .308 and a Leupold Mark 4 3.5-10x40mm LR/T M1 Front Focal. :D
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9549/copyofimg5038lb9.jpg

ar15barrels
01-27-2008, 12:51 PM
I am looking into investing in a 700 SPS-V, 26" heavy barrel w/ a Leupold M4... I'm just stuck on which scope to get. I want it with Mil-Dots and the BDC. The scopes are pricey, so I want to make sure that I get the appropriate one. I've come across:

-Leupold Mark 4 16 x 40 LR/T M1 Mil Dot Reticle Rifle-Scopes? $1500
-Leupold Mark 4 LRT 3.5-10 X 40 Black Matte, Illuminated Mil Dot, M1, 53668 $1180

Of the two scopes you listed, I would go with the 3.5-10 as a fixed 16 power would be WAY too much scope in many scenarios.
16X is fine if you only shoot from the bipod/bench, but stand up and hold the rifle and you will not like it.

I have a 4-14 IOR and a 3.5-10 Leupold LR/T and I love them both.

Prc329
01-27-2008, 12:58 PM
During the match on the 26th we had a "mover". We we were moving not the target. No way you would be able to see the target as rough and bouncy the ride was with a fixed 16x. I think it would have been very hard with a 10x.

USN CHIEF
01-27-2008, 1:01 PM
Purchased the remy 700 sps varmint in 308 yesterday from Socal Gun here in San Diego and they match Turner's advertised price. :)
Turner's Clairemont don't have a stock in 308.

I would definately recommend you to go buy your rifle from Socal Gun vice Turners's. Espceially if they will match the Advertisement price from Turners. Turner's don'y wants to charge 100 bucks for PPT's:mad:

Getting back on topic I would recommend the 700 SPSV in 308. Better yet, I would spend the extra money and get the Remington 700P LTR..

PistolPete75
01-27-2008, 1:27 PM
I would definately recommend you to go buy your rifle from Socal Gun vice Turners's. Espceially if they will match the Advertisement price from Turners. Turner's don'y wants to charge 100 bucks for PPT's:mad:

Getting back on topic I would recommend the 700 SPSV in 308. Better yet, I would spend the extra money and get the Remington 700P LTR..

no need, just buy a sps varmint, and a used hs stock for about $200 and your still saving a $100.

Prc329
01-27-2008, 1:39 PM
LTR is 20" and fluted.

gcrtkd
01-27-2008, 4:44 PM
Okay, rookie question... when someone refers to a "Leupold M4 with Mil-Dots w/ BDC"... does the "M4" refer to a specific model of a Mark 4 or is "M4" shorthand for "Mark 4"? Looking at http://www.leupold.com/tactical/products/scopes/ I see lots of Mark 4s with M1, M2, and M3 following... but no M4. A google search shows me http://www.opticsplanet.net/leupold-35-10x40-mark-4-lrt-m1-m3-m4-rifle-scopes.html which has "Leupold 3.5-10x40 Mark 4 LR/T M1, M3 & M4 Rifle Scopes"... So I'm guessing that there's "Mark 4 M4"s, no?

-thanks
-gcrtkd

gcrtkd
01-27-2008, 5:14 PM
And... what is the difference between the M1, M2, M3, & M4 designations?

Mute
01-27-2008, 5:40 PM
M4 is Mark 4 which is supposed to be made to a tougher standard than the rest of the Leupold lineup. The M1, M2 and M3 designation is for the elevation turret. M1 is 1/4 MOA per click, M2 is 1/3 and M3 is one.

gcrtkd
01-27-2008, 5:58 PM
M4 is Mark 4 which is supposed to be made to a tougher standard than the rest of the Leupold lineup. The M1, M2 and M3 designation is for the elevation turret. M1 is 1/4 MOA per click, M2 is 1/3 and M3 is one.

Sooo, is there a "Mark 4 M4"? Or just: Mark 4 M1, Mark 4 M2, and Mark 4 M3?

Blacky
01-27-2008, 6:06 PM
The Leupold web site thoroughly details their product line. I know its confusing but you would actually get a faster and more accurate answer from their web site.

rksimple
01-27-2008, 6:07 PM
M4 is Mark 4 which is supposed to be made to a tougher standard than the rest of the Leupold lineup. The M1, M2 and M3 designation is for the elevation turret. M1 is 1/4 MOA per click, M2 is 1/3 and M3 is one.

I think M2 is .5 MOA, right? Loopy also has some metric turrets, but they're .05 mils. Kinda wacky...

PistolPete75
01-27-2008, 6:09 PM
i never heard of a mark 4 with m4 knobs.

Mute
01-27-2008, 6:38 PM
I think M2 is .5 MOA, right? Loopy also has some metric turrets, but they're .05 mils. Kinda wacky...

You're absolutely correct. I should'nt write in such a rush. As to the queries about Mark 4 M4, no such animal. I think some people are just using M4 as a short for Mark 4.

Blacky
01-27-2008, 7:19 PM
This is a 210 yards cold bore shot - non ideal conditions - prone using a bi-pod from a off-camber rock. The red is 3 1/2".
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4719/3rdgrpye5.jpg

USN CHIEF
01-27-2008, 8:42 PM
This is a 210 yards cold bore shot - non ideal conditions - prone using a bi-pod from a off-camber rock. The red is 3 1/2".
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4719/3rdgrpye5.jpg

That is some good shooting.. Who was the shooter:43:

ar15barrels
01-27-2008, 9:33 PM
M1 is 1/4 MOA per click, M2 is 1/3 and M3 is one.

I thought the M2 turrets were 1/2 MOA elevation...

My M3 has 1 MOA elevation and 1/2 MOA windage, but it's a Vari-X III LR/T from just before the Vari-X III LR/T's all became Mark IV models.

Blacky
01-27-2008, 9:40 PM
That is some good shooting.. Who was the shooter:43:

Really? Not bad for half blind old fart huh? :wheelchair: The right scope helps a wee bit.

PistolPete75
01-27-2008, 10:33 PM
looks like a 1moa 3 shot grouping. let me guess, it was shot out of a remington 700p. good shooting, but remember the most important thing was that it was a hit. try to hold that 1moa target up to 500yards. hitting 1 moa targets up to 500yards is good, hitting targets smaller than 1moa is exceptional. smaller targets makes you think a little more before pulling the trigger.

Blacky
01-28-2008, 1:37 PM
Yes, I need to find a good range with 500/800 yard distances. This was shot from an improvised range I setup in the desert. Also zeroing in for the first time.

10.4 on that PM - Thanks!