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NSR500
11-21-2007, 7:56 PM
Those of you looking for Uppers should check out Armalite.

http://www.armalite.com/Categories8.aspx?Category=9f794ab0-7a08-44e0-85d2-34f1832de5ea

They even have an AR10 Upper at a Super Discount.

DRM6000
11-21-2007, 8:51 PM
that's cheaper than dealer pricing.

C.G.
11-21-2007, 9:10 PM
Those uppers are a steal, I wish I had some spare money lying around right now.

NSR500
11-21-2007, 9:12 PM
Would you guys believe that they had $250 Uppers? Apparently they did and this is the remaining prices, which are still pretty damn awesome.

IH8CALAWS
11-21-2007, 9:14 PM
Looks like I will replace the upper that was stollen from my house while my lower was in dros.I cant pass that deal up.

Cali-V
11-21-2007, 9:27 PM
Great Pricing!

jandmtv
11-21-2007, 9:36 PM
WOW!! wish those prices were arround when i got my upper, i could of saved about $200

hitman13
11-21-2007, 9:38 PM
whats the difference in the two carbine uppers?

toolman9000
11-21-2007, 9:49 PM
I got the 20"... $350 complete DANG THAT IS A GOOD DEAL, screw Best Buy and those $450 LCD TV's - I gots a new upper!

http://www.armalite.com/images/large%20images%5CU15A4BA2LARGE.jpg

jandmtv
11-21-2007, 10:40 PM
thats the one i was looking at too, but too bad its a .223 you cant shoot 5.56 out of it. oh well, still a damn good price man!! enjoy your new upper, and post some feedback on it once you get it.

jumbopanda
11-21-2007, 10:49 PM
thats the one i was looking at too, but too bad its a .223 you cant shoot 5.56 out of it. oh well, still a damn good price man!! enjoy your new upper, and post some feedback on it once you get it.

That's kind of weird, maybe they forgot there was a difference between .223 and 5.56? :confused:

sactime
11-21-2007, 11:01 PM
I would like to know this as well

whats the difference in the two carbine uppers?

toolman9000
11-21-2007, 11:06 PM
thats the one i was looking at too, but too bad its a .223 you cant shoot 5.56 out of it. oh well, still a damn good price man!! enjoy your new upper, and post some feedback on it once you get it.

They are 5.56, Armalite said so on ARF.com...

Armalite said:
"...all of our chrome lined barrels whether they're AR10's or M15's are NATO chambered (5.56 for the M15 and 7.62 for the AR10). Chrome lining is standard for all ArmaLite M15's and AR10's with the exception being SST barreled Tactical and NM rifles. SST barreled M15's have a WILDE chamber while the AR10T SST barreled rifle has a NATO chamber."

Good to go! Buy now buy often... or until your wife is pissed.

jumbopanda
11-21-2007, 11:16 PM
Now the question is: where to get an AR-10 lower?

bigkahuna04
11-21-2007, 11:26 PM
Looks like Daddy is going to get a new upper for Christmas...sorry kids...you can play with the lump of coal..

-hanko
11-22-2007, 6:55 AM
Would you guys believe that they had $250 Uppers? Apparently they did and this is the remaining prices, which are still pretty damn awesome.
Did the $250 uppers come w/ bolt assembly??

Thanks, AMEX;)

-hanko

tenpercentfirearms
11-22-2007, 7:10 AM
I just ordered 2 of each. :43:

vikingshelmut
11-22-2007, 8:25 AM
Do these uppers have standard pin sizes? Also, anybody know what type of lower one would use on the .308 upper? I've heard that building an AR-10 is not as easy and universal as a regular AR.

WokMaster1
11-22-2007, 8:36 AM
whats the difference in the two carbine uppers?

One's got shorter handguards. The barrels look different, too.

IH8CALAWS
11-22-2007, 8:58 AM
One's got shorter handguards. The barrels look different, too.

yep, one is a m4 profile and one is just a regular carbine.

gidddy169
11-22-2007, 9:08 AM
Does anyone know if the AR10 upper comes with bolt and carrier? Also what were the $250 uppers that I missed?

stevie
11-22-2007, 9:20 AM
Does anyone know if the AR10 upper comes with bolt and carrier? Also what were the $250 uppers that I missed?

No idea, but all of the codes on AR10 uppers that start with a "U" are complete while the ones that start with a "B" are not complete.

Pryde
11-22-2007, 9:21 AM
WARNING:
The front sight bases on these are A2: meaning that unless you get a special extra long sight post that sticks out past the ears, they will not work with a standard BUIS or carrying handle iron sight.

stevie
11-22-2007, 9:55 AM
Ordered the AR10 upper, will see what i get.

WokMaster1
11-22-2007, 9:59 AM
WARNING:
The front sight bases on these are A2: meaning that unless you get a special extra long sight post that sticks out past the ears, they will not work with a standard BUIS or carrying handle iron sight.

is there such a thing as an A2 BUIS? Or would a ACOG or Aimpoint solve the problem?

G17GUY
11-22-2007, 10:20 AM
WARNING:
The front sight bases on these are A2: meaning that unless you get a special extra long sight post that sticks out past the ears, they will not work with a standard BUIS or carrying handle iron sight.

What rear sight do you have to use then?

NSR500
11-22-2007, 10:24 AM
Did the $250 uppers come w/ bolt assembly??

Thanks, AMEX;)

-hanko


The guys on arfcom that cashed in on the $250 uppers said they were minus the BCG :chris:

blackbok
11-22-2007, 10:29 AM
What rear sight do you have to use then?

Curious on this too.

blackbok
11-22-2007, 10:29 AM
How much was shipping for those of you that ordered?

tenpercentfirearms
11-22-2007, 10:34 AM
I ordered six uppers and the shipping was $39. Less than $10 an upper is good.

G17GUY
11-22-2007, 10:39 AM
I ordered six uppers and the shipped was $39. Less than $10 an upper is good.

Dd you know if the FSB is F marked?

Thanks

blackbok
11-22-2007, 10:41 AM
I ordered six uppers and the shipped was $39. Less than $10 an upper is good.

Wow. That's real nice.

C.G.
11-22-2007, 10:45 AM
Do these uppers have standard pin sizes? Also, anybody know what type of lower one would use on the .308 upper? I've heard that building an AR-10 is not as easy and universal as a regular AR.

At this point the only thing that is OLL for an AR-10 upper is Hesse HAR-25.

elroy
11-22-2007, 11:26 AM
oh , you guys sucked me in , i just ordered a 16 in upper , 359$ + 9.?? shipping so under 370 total , ive been looking to get one , seems like a hard deal to beat , even used ones seem a bit more

Dump1567
11-22-2007, 11:50 AM
I've got an extra lower sitting around. Why not? Order placed. Besides, I need an upper to shoot Wolf out of.

I'll have a complete Rifle for around $600.;)

RaceDay
11-22-2007, 12:39 PM
Yeah, I got sucked in too. I've had 2 lowers for a while but always had something else I wanted to buy instead of an upper. For $359, I decided to get off the fence and finally start a build.

DRM6000
11-22-2007, 12:56 PM
against my better judgement, i just bought two. the price is better than dealer pricing, so why not?

tenpercentfirearms
11-22-2007, 1:24 PM
If the FSB ends up being an issue, we all have this option.

http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=17&products_id=189

Now the question is at that price, do I want to claim one of the 20"ers I ordered for my own and finally have a 20" build? I am thinking there are good odds I might just do that. I need to start building up some of my lowers. An Armalite would look good on the POF I just took apart to make way for a .22 LR build.

jandmtv
11-22-2007, 1:29 PM
i love my yhm flippy! its cheap and effective! all of you are tempting me to buy another:D upper now

Bagger
11-22-2007, 1:39 PM
Like a kid in a Candy Store Great deals .
was tempted to buy the 20" Upper but like the 16" heavy barrel set up

Hoop
11-22-2007, 2:24 PM
I've spent the entire morning staring at the 308 upper and my credit card...

6172crew
11-22-2007, 2:44 PM
What parts do I need for the lower parts build? I have a lower parts kit from a AR15 so Im guessinga mag catch?:confused:

DedEye
11-22-2007, 2:56 PM
Man I'm tempted. I wanted a different kind of upper but at these prices (WITH BCG) it's hard not to want to go all out.

C.G.
11-22-2007, 2:57 PM
What parts do I need for the lower parts build? I have a lower parts kit from a AR15 so Im guessinga mag catch?:confused:

Here is the break down on interchangeable parts between AR-10 and AR-15:
http://www.armalite.com/catitem2.aspx?Category=93c41860-4ca2-43ee-8ca9-dc09b1a5bf2c

If I were you I would just keep your AR-15 LPK for the next build and just get an AR-10 LPK:
http://www.armalite.com/catitem.aspx?Category=fd0ae662-2eeb-4eb2-af45-d771eafd8fba

jandmtv
11-22-2007, 2:57 PM
you can buy those uppers, and make more $ parting them out, or just hold on to them for a month and sell them on gunbroker and make 100-150 on each upper.

6172crew
11-22-2007, 3:03 PM
I guess I need to cal to order the lpk, it didnt let me oder it online so I just picked up the 2 stage trigger for now.:D

thankis fo rthe heads up.;)

maxicon
11-22-2007, 3:49 PM
I just ordered a 20" that I don't really need, but there is this small hole in my collection...

tenpercentfirearms
11-22-2007, 4:32 PM
you can buy those uppers, and make more $ parting them out, or just hold on to them for a month and sell them on gunbroker and make 100-150 on each upper.

Why wait that long? :D

Fjold
11-22-2007, 5:01 PM
Those of you looking for Uppers should check out Armalite.

http://www.armalite.com/Categories8.aspx?Category=9f794ab0-7a08-44e0-85d2-34f1832de5ea

They even have an AR10 Upper at a Super Discount.


Aarrgghh !

I ordered a 20"

G17GUY
11-22-2007, 5:41 PM
I got the M15A4 LEC. I just need a rear sight that will work with the front now.. hmm..

blackbok
11-22-2007, 6:01 PM
Well, I just jumped in the boat. 20".

Wonder how long 'till it gets here:o

Maybe I can find a deal on flip up sight/gas tube block at the Costa Mesa show this weekend...

G17GUY
11-22-2007, 6:11 PM
Can someone who has ar15.com account ask about FSB working with standard rear sights. I dont have an account. Thanks

http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=642280&page=6

rksimple
11-22-2007, 6:11 PM
This (http://rockriverarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=AR0052CASY&storeid=1&image=chndls.gif&CFID=5204542&CFTOKEN=80093654) should work for the rear sight, no?

I'm eyein' that 20"...can't resist...

philthy209
11-22-2007, 6:59 PM
sucks being broke.:(

DedEye
11-22-2007, 8:41 PM
sucks being broke.:(

Tell me about it.

jandmtv
11-22-2007, 8:54 PM
which one of the 16" uppers is better? i think im going to pick up a 16" upper to build as rifle for my wife.

blackbok
11-22-2007, 9:15 PM
which one of the 16" uppers is better? i think im going to pick up a 16" upper to build as rifle for my wife.

Get the one with the channel for the grenade launcher, she may want to add one later.

jandmtv
11-22-2007, 9:49 PM
lol

NeoWeird
11-22-2007, 10:41 PM
Ok, for those that don't quite understand...

...originally the M16 series of weapons were a fixed carry handle model, as most people are aware. As time passed and the need for a flat top style of upper was needed, the Army originally opted to use the same A2 style upper forgings and modify them by milling off the carry handle and milling in the rail so the carry handle would fit and would be at the proper height of an original A2 style upper. It was shortly there after shown that the milling off of material made the upper questionably weak and needed to be improved (the story goes that one man in particular showed that he could puncture the top of the upper with a pencil by hand). The redesign required more material on top, if I remember right .090", to meet Mil-spec requirments. Once the carry handle was added on top, it now sat too high for the original FSB. So a new taller FSB needed to be designed which was the added .090" taller, and is commonly marked with an F to indicate it is the taller base. The military could have redesigned the carry handle at that point but it was already in mass production so they just opted to change the FSB which was cheaper at the time. It has no exasterbated to the point were it IS an issue for those that are unaware. ALL rear sights that are made to mount to a flat top upper are the original carry handle height. That means NO, I repeat NO, production rear sight will work with these uppers. Your only options are either to mought an optic to them or to have a custom made A2 rear sight added, which may prove difficult.

As for the uppers, I wouldn't rejoice yet - I see NO charging handle in any of them, and if there is no charging handle I will bet there is no BCG. Sadly, the price of $350, plus an additional $150 for the BCG and charging handle, will put those uppers at $500 complete. A good price for an Armaltie, no doubt, but not so great I would have to jump on them right this second. Of course if they do have the BCG then they are great deals. Not as great as the Bushys which were 100% complete plus the carry handle for $349 shipped, but good none the less.

You guys will have to let us know how complete their 'complete' uppers really are.

maxicon
11-22-2007, 10:50 PM
According to the web page:

Each ArmaLite Complete Upper Assembly includes a forged upper receiver assembly, barrel assembly, bolt carrier group and charging handle assembly. All complete upper assemblies are test fired as complete before shipping.

For those who want inexpensive carry handles, the hot ticket right now is these Stags from Numrich for $45:
http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=982490&chrSuperSKU=&MC=YJ

Also, you can use the carry handle sight with the A2 FSB by using a taller front sight. It may extend beyond the sight ears, though.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=810857

jumbopanda
11-22-2007, 11:01 PM
Maxicon is right; those uppers come with everything except for a rear sight/carry handle.

NSR500
11-22-2007, 11:24 PM
Yes, these ones are complete...

Earlier they had uppers @ $250 and those did not have BCG´s.

And like Maxicon posted, Numrich has Stag carry handles. I picked one up and it is perfect. At $45 you cannot go wrong...

tenpercentfirearms
11-23-2007, 5:36 AM
It clearly says they come complete. Sorry, no kill joy tonight for you!

Like I already said, the YHM flip up front sight gas block will easily fix any rear sight issues.

paladin4415
11-23-2007, 6:06 AM
Guys....stop all the hand wringing about the front sight base. The 20" upper is 100% correct with the A2 front sight base. If the 16" carbine upper does not have an "F" marked front sight base, it's no big deal. You can buy a slightly longer front sight post from Bushmaster for $5.50. It will work perfectly with any standard rear sight after that. The new front sight post simply screws in, replacing the standard one.
Enjoy your new uppers. Those are screaming deals.

Bagger
11-23-2007, 6:47 AM
They say there Complete With BCG and Charger

Fjold
11-23-2007, 7:16 AM
"Ok, for those that don't quite understand..."

"Nevermind"

1022rimfire
11-23-2007, 7:47 AM
How is the overall quality and reputation (customer service, etc.) of Armalite? This looks like a great deal to jump on!

Hoop
11-23-2007, 9:27 AM
How is the overall quality and reputation (customer service, etc.) of Armalite? This looks like a great deal to jump on!

I'm wondering that too. I really want one of the 308 uppers but I want to know how accurate they are first.

6172crew
11-23-2007, 10:02 AM
I just added a 20 incher to the list, so now I have a Ar10 and Ar15 upper inbound.

The MOA are stated if you look at the rifle specs. Most are 1.5- 2.0 MOA.:D

ar15barrels
11-23-2007, 10:29 AM
I really want one of the 308 uppers but I want to know how accurate they are first.

Just wait for everyone else to buy them all and report back.
Then you will know how good the deal was that you missed. :D

ar15barrels
11-23-2007, 10:30 AM
I just added a 20 incher to the list, so now I have a Ar10 and Ar15 upper inbound.

Same here.
I have the 20" 5.56 and 7.62 uppers ordered.

stevie
11-23-2007, 10:37 AM
Looks like all uppers are sold out. Wonder if we all got them?

stevie
11-23-2007, 10:38 AM
Same here.
I have the 20" 5.56 and 7.62 uppers ordered.

Hey Randall

Can you put on one of those SWS FFT on the AR-10 thats on special?

elSquid
11-23-2007, 10:42 AM
Looks like all uppers are sold out. Wonder if we all got them?

I ordered two at around 10:45AM. Looks like I _just_ made it... :)

-- Michael

jegonzo3
11-23-2007, 10:47 AM
I was on the fence...and missed out! :(

jegonzo3

paladin4415
11-23-2007, 11:28 AM
Hey Randall

Can you put on one of those SWS FFT on the AR-10 thats on special?

He can. He did one of mine a little while back. It came out great.

tenpercentfirearms
11-23-2007, 12:47 PM
Damn! Looks like that went quick. You gotta love the Internet. I sure hope I don't get a phone call saying, "Sorry, we took your info but decided you didn't get them in time."

:eek:

Bagger
11-23-2007, 1:34 PM
that went Quick
Theres going to be alot of these Barrels Headed To Cali :)

jandmtv
11-23-2007, 2:17 PM
OMFG!!!!!!! i just got home from work and was about to place my order!!!!! FU@K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hoop
11-23-2007, 2:21 PM
OMFG!!!!!!! i just got home from work and was about to place my order!!!!! FU@K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah I said the same thing around lunchtime.

However, I'm pretty sure that if they are having a Thanksgiving day sale, they'll have a Christmas sale too. AND an after Christmas sale.

So keep your credit card handy, I know I am :).

Dump1567
11-23-2007, 3:29 PM
This was posted on ARFCOM in the Armalite industry section:

Info on LEC15A4CB
I'm looking for some info about this carbine:

1. what's the barrel profile under the handguards?
2. how are Armalite's barrels marked (caliber, barrel twist,etc)?
3. is the buffer tube commercial or milspec in size?
4. is the FSB pinned or held by screw?
5. what kind of FSB does it mount? standard or F-marked?
6. does the upper have T marks?


thank You guys

Frens
http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_wink.gif

1. M4
2. N = Nato, C = Chrome, 3 = Vendor code, Date (when manufactured)
3. Mil-spec
4. Pinned
5. FSB is standard Mil-spec ( F-marked I think is a Colt designation )
6. Yes


Armalite sells these exact same uppers as complete rifles with their own detachable carry handle.
"The same model carried by the Illinois State Police is now commercially available."
http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=LEC15A4CB&Category=8e8e5de6-5022-483e-812b-822e58014822%20&ret_url=Categories2.aspx?Category=8e8e5de6-5022-483e-812b-822e58014822

I have a hard time believing these things ship without the sights being correct. If you want to be on the safe side, order Armalite's carry handle or call them direct and ask.

As for me, I'll be running an optic on top of my detachable carry hande so it's not a big issue.

6172crew
11-23-2007, 3:50 PM
If anyone overstepped my buddy wants to buy a M15A4 upper, said he has plenty to trade for one or just buy it from you.

Here is his number: 925 963-1423 Vince:)

jandmtv
11-23-2007, 3:58 PM
Yeah I said the same thing around lunchtime.

However, I'm pretty sure that if they are having a Thanksgiving day sale, they'll have a Christmas sale too. AND an after Christmas sale.

So keep your credit card handy, I know I am :).


i hope your right! i still cant belive i missed it.

ar15barrels
11-23-2007, 4:25 PM
Can you put on one of those SWS FFT on the AR-10 thats on special?

Yes.

He did one of mine a little while back.
It came out great.

Thanks for the complement.

Fjold
11-23-2007, 4:49 PM
Yeah I said the same thing around lunchtime.

However, I'm pretty sure that if they are having a Thanksgiving day sale, they'll have a Christmas sale too. AND an after Christmas sale.

So keep your credit card handy, I know I am :).

The only thing to worry about is if they did this to get rid of excess inventory that they had built up over the whole year. Having a Thanksgiving sale is strange but maybe they figured that if they didn't sell all of them this weekend they would have the opportunity to do a Christmas Sale also.

elSquid
11-23-2007, 5:47 PM
Seen over at arfcom:

"Due to the overwhelming reponse to our Thanksgiving sale the upper half specials are sold out and have been removed from the web site.
Look forward to the 12 days of ArmaLite which will begin on Dec. 3 and runs for 12 days with a special item for each day only."

-- Michael

Rem1492
11-23-2007, 8:31 PM
looks like they are copying the Bushmaster marketing program, good idea, it works! Maybe the rest of the gun industry will pick up on it.

DRM6000
11-23-2007, 9:24 PM
Seen over at arfcom:

"Due to the overwhelming reponse to our Thanksgiving sale the upper half specials are sold out and have been removed from the web site.
Look forward to the 12 days of ArmaLite which will begin on Dec. 3 and runs for 12 days with a special item for each day only."

-- Michael
damnit :mad: now i have to spend more money. :(

trashman
11-23-2007, 9:31 PM
Yeah...wow...left for dinner with wife and friends and on the walk home thought...I'll get that upper! And now presto...gone-oh...

--Neill

Hoop
11-23-2007, 9:39 PM
will begin on Dec. 3[/I]

-- Michael

YES!

Fjold
11-24-2007, 8:00 AM
Seen over at arfcom:

"Due to the overwhelming reponse to our Thanksgiving sale the upper half specials are sold out and have been removed from the web site.
Look forward to the 12 days of ArmaLite which will begin on Dec. 3 and runs for 12 days with a special item for each day only."

-- Michael


Cool! Hopefully some of those "special items" will be uppers.

EKIM
11-25-2007, 1:54 PM
Does anyone have an idea when these uppers will be shipped out?

ar15barrels
11-25-2007, 3:22 PM
Does anyone have an idea when these uppers will be shipped out?

Perhaps you need to let them get back from the holidays first. ;)

ar15barrels
11-26-2007, 11:51 AM
Does anyone have an idea when these uppers will be shipped out?

Interestingly enough, Armalite charged my credit card TODAY.
I think these might be shipping out immediately as they usually don't charge the card until it's being boxed up to ship. :D

DRM6000
11-26-2007, 12:25 PM
let's play a game. what's your order number?

mine is 3000559. (card not charged yet)

Fjold
11-26-2007, 12:32 PM
Mine is 3000603 and the status is "booked". Armalite has a hold on the amount charged but not charged it yet.

elroy
11-26-2007, 12:33 PM
3000542 charge shows pending

EKIM
11-26-2007, 4:16 PM
I think ar15 jinxed me, mines still pending.:mad:

ar15barrels
11-26-2007, 8:00 PM
let's play a game. what's your order number?

Order No: 3000701
Order Date: 11/23/2007
Status: Booked

Fjold
11-26-2007, 8:34 PM
Order number 3000542 to 3000701 that's 159 uppers so far, if all the orders are for uppers. They must have had a lot in stock.

I'm curious as to how many uppers they actually sold in this sale.

WokMaster1
11-26-2007, 8:35 PM
#3000448
status: booked
ordered 11/21/07

ar15barrels
11-26-2007, 8:51 PM
Order number 3000542 to 3000701 that's 159 uppers so far, if all the orders are for uppers.

My order was not for "just" one upper. ;)
Those prices are cheaper than dealer prices and I'm an Armalite dealer.
I'll sell them eventually. :)

DRM6000
11-26-2007, 9:19 PM
Order number 3000542 to 3000701 that's 159 uppers so far, if all the orders are for uppers. They must have had a lot in stock.

I'm curious as to how many uppers they actually sold in this sale.


i ordered more than one :)

DRM6000
11-26-2007, 9:20 PM
My order was not for "just" one upper. ;)
Those prices are cheaper than dealer prices and I'm an Armalite dealer.



me too :) that's why i had to buy them now.

tenpercentfirearms
11-26-2007, 9:27 PM
My order was not for "just" one upper. ;)
Those prices are cheaper than dealer prices and I'm an Armalite dealer.
I'll sell them eventually. :)

I didn't have my Armalite book handy so I just took everyone's word for it. I still haven't looked at the book and just know they are less than Stag Uppers so it must have been a good deal. I think I might finally buy myself a 20" upper.

elSquid
11-26-2007, 10:35 PM
i ordered more than one :)

I'm feeling buyer's remorse: I bought two. I should have bought 4.

;)

-- Michael

Hoop
11-26-2007, 10:40 PM
All I know is they better have 308 uppers during their "12 days" sale.

I wonder if these ones were cosmetically flawed or something?

ar15barrels
11-27-2007, 8:30 AM
All I know is they better have 308 uppers during their "12 days" sale.

I may have a 308 upper available for sale before the 12 days sale. ;)

NSR500
11-27-2007, 8:46 AM
I may have a 308 upper available for sale before the 12 days sale. ;)


Capitalist Pig!

;)

ar15barrels
11-27-2007, 9:01 AM
Capitalist Pig!

Thanks for the complement. :D

megavolt121
11-27-2007, 9:43 AM
Capitalist Pig!

;)


HIPPIE! :D

DRM6000
11-27-2007, 11:40 AM
i just got a confirmation email stating that the order has been processed and is shipping in 24 hours.

fast318
11-27-2007, 12:32 PM
i just got a confirmation email stating that the order has been processed and is shipping in 24 hours.

What is your order #?

DRM6000
11-27-2007, 12:35 PM
3000559

fast318
11-27-2007, 12:40 PM
3000559

Thanks for the info, I'm 3000624, hopefully they get to me today.

6172crew
11-27-2007, 12:48 PM
3000580 but for some reason I didnt get a second order number when I bought my A4 the next day. I might not be getting the 223 upper I guess.

maxicon
11-27-2007, 1:33 PM
3000571 - pick ticket printed!

A Tuesday/Wednesday upper is going to be better than a Monday or Friday upper, right?

BlackReef
11-27-2007, 2:02 PM
damn I wish I had the extra $$$ right now. This is torture.

ar15barrels
11-27-2007, 2:11 PM
I really want one of the 308 uppers but I want to know how accurate they are first.

So did you order one?
If not, I'll have one here for sale shortly.

WokMaster1
11-27-2007, 5:03 PM
Mine just shipped today....:D

20" on a U-15 stocked Double Star lower.

Fjold
11-27-2007, 7:44 PM
Mine says "Pick Ticket Printed" Woohoo!

The only problem is that I'm in Ohio for business next week from Tuesday through Friday. Oh well, at least it will be in my office when I get back.

EDITED to add:


I got the email this morning that says:

Thank you for ordering from the ArmaLite Inc. on-line store. Your order has been processed and will ship within 24 hours. If you have any additional questions, please feel free to respond to this email.

Again, thank you for your order.




So I checked their website and it says:
"Shipped"


I'm order number 3000603 so you guys can estimate off that.

elroy
11-28-2007, 10:33 AM
don't count on it !! i just got an e-mail from them saying they were out of the upper i ordered ! i ordered on the 22nd order 3000542 so i should be way ahead of many of you , yet when i phoned , i was given the option of recieving the isp model instead ,, only diff is the barrel cut for 203 , then they said 2 to 3 weeks to ship it , i'll be lucky to see this thing b4 xmas now !!! oh well ,, at least its a deal ? is there and downside to getting the barrel with the 203 vs without ??? the rep on the phone was nice but i'm miffed that i ordered early and it seems ive lost my place in line !!

elroy
11-28-2007, 10:39 AM
Thank you for your order on armalite.com. Unfortunately, we no longer have EK0416B uppers available to sell to you and we will not be offering this model in the future. We can however, offer you the EK0446B upper which is exactly the same price as the upper you ordered (special priced at $359.00) except the EK0446B has the step down SOF barrel. The information on the EK0446B is included below.



Please let us know if you are interested in this upper by responding to this email or calling 1-800-336-0184 and speaking to one of our customer service representatives.

fast318
11-28-2007, 10:41 AM
NOOOOOOO!!! I just got this e-mail;

"Thank you for your order on armalite.com.

Your order has been received and processed. The product you ordered is on backorder at this time. We will fulfill your back order in a timely manner and an email notification will be sent to you when the order is ready to ship. Your credit card will not be billed until product has shipped. We apologize for any inconvenience this back order may cause; please let us know if you have any questions concerning your order.

Thank you"

elroy
11-28-2007, 10:45 AM
they billed me on monday

toolman9000
11-28-2007, 10:52 AM
NOOOOOOO!!! I just got this e-mail;

"Thank you for your order on armalite.com.

Your order has been received and processed. The product you ordered is on backorder at this time. We will fulfill your back order in a timely manner and an email notification will be sent to you when the order is ready to ship. Your credit card will not be billed until product has shipped. We apologize for any inconvenience this back order may cause; please let us know if you have any questions concerning your order.

Thank you"

Which upper did you order?

fast318
11-28-2007, 10:55 AM
Which upper did you order?

The 20" Flat top

kmca
11-28-2007, 11:04 AM
NOOOOOOO!!! I just got this e-mail;

"Thank you for your order on armalite.com.

Your order has been received and processed. The product you ordered is on backorder at this time. We will fulfill your back order in a timely manner and an email notification will be sent to you when the order is ready to ship. Your credit card will not be billed until product has shipped. We apologize for any inconvenience this back order may cause; please let us know if you have any questions concerning your order.

Thank you"

I just got the same e-mail :(
I just called Armalite and was told that "timely manner" means hopefully 1-2 weeks.

toolman9000
11-28-2007, 11:26 AM
The 20" Flat top

Thats interesting because they have a choice alternate for the 16" uppers, they must be out of 20" barrels.

Because for the same retail price as the sale upper they have the 20" with the low profile gas block.

http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=U15A4B&Category=d11c4595-cbdd-4a15-b3fa-6281c2c2a004

If they had more then it seems like this would be the candidate for substitution. It's still a great deal even on backorder.

elroy
11-28-2007, 11:31 AM
2 models of 16 in uppers were on sale but they only had 1 20 in model on sale so they offered me the other one

WokMaster1
11-28-2007, 11:32 AM
Mine is due for delivery on 12/3. On the way to South SF UPS depot.:D

kmca
11-28-2007, 11:34 AM
I talked to Armalite and they didn't offer any alternatives, even though I hinted heavily ;)

maxicon
11-28-2007, 11:35 AM
3000571 - pick ticket printed!

A Tuesday/Wednesday upper is going to be better than a Monday or Friday upper, right?

Today, it's shipped and has a tracking number! Scheduled delivery is 12/03. That's for a 20" upper.

Clodbuster
11-28-2007, 11:49 AM
Only downside is that you can't mount an M203 on it ;)

From what I recall of the descriptions, it specifically stated that the Illinois State Police Upper had a heavy barrel. the other upper didn't say that.

Clod

don't count on it !! i just got an e-mail from them saying they were out of the upper i ordered ! i ordered on the 22nd order 3000542 so i should be way ahead of many of you , yet when i phoned , i was given the option of recieving the isp model instead ,, only diff is the barrel cut for 203 , then they said 2 to 3 weeks to ship it , i'll be lucky to see this thing b4 xmas now !!! oh well ,, at least its a deal ? is there and downside to getting the barrel with the 203 vs without ??? the rep on the phone was nice but i'm miffed that i ordered early and it seems ive lost my place in line !!

elroy
11-28-2007, 12:04 PM
i think you have it backwards , the one i ordered did not have it , the isp does have the 203 cut , so my question is there any downside to having this cut into the barrel ? does it weaken it ( it must ) , get hot ? affect accuracy ?

elSquid
11-28-2007, 12:41 PM
My order number is just over 700. I received the "On backorder" note today.

U15A4BA2 M15A4 COMPLETE UPPER ASSEMBLY WITH A2 FRONT SIGHT, BLACK
EK0446B M15A4 LEC COMPLETE CARBINE UPPER HALF, BLACK

-- Michael

toolman9000
11-28-2007, 12:51 PM
i think you have it backwards , the one i ordered did not have it , the isp does have the 203 cut , so my question is there any downside to having this cut into the barrel ? does it weaken it ( it must ) , get hot ? affect accuracy ?

You will not notice a thing, it looks more USGI issue with the cut.

toolman9000
11-28-2007, 12:53 PM
My order number is just over 700. I received the "On backorder" note today.

U15A4BA2 M15A4 COMPLETE UPPER ASSEMBLY WITH A2 FRONT SIGHT, BLACK
EK0446B M15A4 LEC COMPLETE CARBINE UPPER HALF, BLACK

-- Michael

My order for the 20" was just over #450 and it shipped yesterday... Dang they sold a lot of uppers on that sale.

2ma2
11-28-2007, 12:54 PM
First upper I ever ordered so can someone let me know if the substitute deal to the 446 is OK. Is it as good? Thanks in advance

elroy
11-28-2007, 1:38 PM
i guess its the same except for the cut in the barrel so yes it's good , you did order the other 16" upper last week ? they won't do that price now if you're just getting in on it .

elroy
11-28-2007, 1:50 PM
i called drew and left a mssg. to see if he could get me shipped sooner , now i checked their website and it says Status :Pick Ticket Printed ,, and its updated to show the 446 lec not the 416 i originally ordered ,,

Clodbuster
11-28-2007, 3:26 PM
Let me rephrase that:

The downside with having a cut in the barrel for mounting a M203 on the ISP upper is that you still cannot mount an M203 grenade launcher on the ISP upper....

For the one that did not have a cut, do not know if it is a heavy barrel or not. The description did not mention that was a heavy barrel. Guess the folks who did get one can chime in when it is delivered.

Clod

i think you have it backwards , the one i ordered did not have it , the isp does have the 203 cut , so my question is there any downside to having this cut into the barrel ? does it weaken it ( it must ) , get hot ? affect accuracy ?

Bagger
11-28-2007, 4:16 PM
Dont feel so bad Uncle Bagger will take them of your Hands for what you Paid For them:D

I only bought a few also

I'm feeling buyer's remorse: I bought two. I should have bought 4.

;)

-- Michael

Fjold
11-28-2007, 4:33 PM
Mine has the UPS shipping info and UPS says that they have it scheduled for pick up.

My order was for:
U15A4BA2 M15A4 COMPLETE UPPER ASSEMBLY WITH A2 FRONT SIGHT, BLACK

But if they would have offered it during the sale. I really would have preferred the low profile gas block model
M15A4 COMPLETE UPPER ASSEMBLY, BLACK

Fjold
11-28-2007, 5:42 PM
2 models of 16 in uppers were on sale but they only had 1 20 in model on sale so they offered me the other one

Are you getting the 20" M15A4 with the railed gas block instead of the A2 sight?

If so, do you want to trade for the A2 sight version?

Delivery on mine is Dec 4th but I have a flight to Ohio that morning and won't get back until Friday the 7th.

elroy
11-28-2007, 6:56 PM
no , i ordered a 16 " and am getting a slightly different 16 " as a sub. ,,,

jandmtv
11-28-2007, 7:05 PM
i hate you guys :( i cant belive i missed that sale.

Fjold
12-03-2007, 8:59 AM
Mine was delivered a day early so I got it in the office this morning!

Not bad for $350

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/ArmaliteUpper.jpg

elroy
12-03-2007, 9:05 AM
i got great news this morning from the good people at AR ,,,,

Tracking Detail | Help

Your package is on time with a scheduled delivery date of 12/06/2007.

thanks Drew !!!!!!!!!!!

marxdspot
12-03-2007, 9:54 AM
Checked the armalite website...no signs of a real sale yet...anyone else got info?

Seen over at arfcom:

"Due to the overwhelming reponse to our Thanksgiving sale the upper half specials are sold out and have been removed from the web site.
Look forward to the 12 days of ArmaLite which will begin on Dec. 3 and runs for 12 days with a special item for each day only."

-- Michael

kmca
12-03-2007, 10:00 AM
Mine was delivered a day early so I got it in the office this morning!

Not bad for $350


I think I ordered the same upper. Is it green?

elSquid
12-03-2007, 10:17 AM
Checked the armalite website...no signs of a real sale yet...anyone else got info?

I just checked. Today's special is a complete BCG for $100. ( reg $135 )

I would have liked it if more uppers were on sale though. ;)

-- Michael

Fjold
12-03-2007, 11:18 AM
I think I ordered the same upper. Is it green?

Nope, black. The ejection port door looks funny from the flash and because there is so much black in the background.

kmca
12-03-2007, 12:03 PM
Thanks Frank.

6172crew
12-03-2007, 6:02 PM
Well my .223 upper should be here tommarow but the Ar10 upper didnt ship and I didnt get a email telling me why. I ordered the stainless 20 incher for $550.:TFH:

maxicon
12-03-2007, 9:47 PM
Mine showed up today, right on time. Looks pretty good for the money - can't wait to take it out and see how it does!

http://maxicon.com/guns/ar/armalite_20_1a.jpg

And I like their logo:

http://maxicon.com/guns/ar/armalite_20_logo_1.jpg

6172crew
12-04-2007, 7:47 AM
Well the AR10 upper hasnt shipped and Drew says she doesnt know when it would ship.:mad: They sold stuff they didnt have but they havent charged me and the upper will ship free she said.:cool:

elSquid
12-04-2007, 11:46 AM
So I've been reading up on m4carbine.net about carrier staking:

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6993

And I have a question for those who have received their uppers: how is the staking job on yours?

My 2 uppers haven't shipped yet, and I'm curious...

Thanks!

-- Michael

6172crew
12-04-2007, 11:54 AM
:confused:So I've been reading up on m4carbine.net about carrier staking:

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6993

And I have a question for those who have received their uppers: how is the staking job on yours?

My 2 uppers haven't shipped yet, and I'm curious...

Thanks!

-- Michael

Mine were not staked like my Colts and LMT. Also this one doesnt look chromelined but maybe its just dirty. :confused:

After second look it appears the barrel is chrome but the chamber isnt.....junk.

elSquid
12-04-2007, 12:05 PM
Mine were not staked like my Colts and LMT.

So the staking is inadequate on the Armalite?

-- Michael

6172crew
12-04-2007, 12:38 PM
So the staking is inadequate on the Armalite?

-- Michael
Yea, I dont think it will cut the mustard. Only one side was smacked and it was almost not noticable.

elSquid
12-04-2007, 12:59 PM
Yea, I dont think it will cut the mustard. Only one side was smacked and it was almost not noticable.

I'm starting to wonder if these uppers were such a bargain after all.

After seeing the carbine manufacturers feature chart posted in another thread and spending some time on m4carbine.net reading I'm having second thoughts. If an 'obvious' thing like the carrier is improperly staked, what other problems are lurking? If I have to buy a new bolt after 2K rounds, then I haven't really saved money.

I admit to being a newbie in this area. Am I being paranoid?

-- Michael

ar15barrels
12-04-2007, 1:02 PM
I admit to being a newbie in this area. Am I being paranoid?

Go shoot it.
Report back if there are problems.

elSquid
12-04-2007, 1:43 PM
Go shoot it.
Report back if there are problems.

I appreciate the response.

So the issue of staking is overblown? If my carriers are not staked should I be checking the (key?) to see if there is any wobble after every range session?

Thanks!

-- Michael

Hoop
12-04-2007, 2:14 PM
I appreciate the response.

So the issue of staking is overblown? If my carriers are not staked should I be checking the (key?) to see if there is any wobble after every range session?

Thanks!

-- Michael

They'll only come loose if you're a moron like me and unscrew them yourself. And even then all you have to do is loctite em.

ar15barrels
12-04-2007, 2:44 PM
all you have to do is loctite em.

Loctite will NOT hold a gas key screw into place.
Loctite breaks down with heat.
Would you suspect that the gas key might get hot while it's channeling gas from the gas tube to the carrier?

They DO need to be properly staked.
It's just hard to tell if the staking is good enough or not by simply looking.
The pictures on m4carbine show excellent staking, but it does not NEED to be staked that good in order to stay together.
It just needs to be staked good enough to hold together.

Go shoot it.
If it comes loose, re-tighten and stake it better.
Shooting it is the final test to see if it's staked good enough now.

plinkmeister
12-04-2007, 8:29 PM
I`ve noticed that these uppers are chambered in .223 and not in 5.56. Will they eat 5.56 ammo with no problems like an RRA with the Wylde chamber or should I stick with .223?

G17GUY
12-04-2007, 8:38 PM
I`ve noticed that these uppers are chambered in .223 and not in 5.56. Will they eat 5.56 ammo with no problems like an RRA with the Wylde chamber or should I stick with .223?

They are 5.56

blackbok
12-04-2007, 9:31 PM
Got mine today. Swapped out the hand guard to a 2 piece rail system, put on a gas block, now it looks like it should:43:. Quality looks great, nice shiny barrel. I'm happy, especially for what I paid. If I have to re-stake, who cares?

WokMaster1
12-05-2007, 6:13 PM
Mine came with a 223. tag, not 5.56. Have to call them tomorrow. All looks good & will take it out on Monday.

G17GUY
12-05-2007, 6:34 PM
Mine came with a 223. tag, not 5.56. Have to call them tomorrow. All looks good & will take it out on Monday.



http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=27&t=157427

WokMaster1
12-05-2007, 7:13 PM
http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=27&t=157427

Thanks for the link. But why don't they just tag it 5.56? Look at FJOLD's picture.:shrug:

Clodbuster
12-05-2007, 10:13 PM
Hmm, through a twist of fate, seems that I can answer the question....

I ordered a 20" and a 16" ISP M4 cut upper. But I received the 16" ISP upper and the standard 16" upper. The ISP upper does not have a heavy barrel as advertised, but the standard 16" upper is a heavy barrel.

Did Armalite screw up anyone else's order?

Clod



Let me rephrase that:

The downside with having a cut in the barrel for mounting a M203 on the ISP upper is that you still cannot mount an M203 grenade launcher on the ISP upper....

For the one that did not have a cut, do not know if it is a heavy barrel or not. The description did not mention that was a heavy barrel. Guess the folks who did get one can chime in when it is delivered.

Clod

elroy
12-06-2007, 12:36 PM
just got mine tuday , box was so worked over the ups guy was apologizing , said i could refuse it , but we know an upper is fairly durable so i accepted it and it seems to be ok , but the box was wet and falling open , folded in half , you name it , we're lucky the upper didn't fall out of the box !!! , looks good 4 the $$ so i can't wait to try it out

G17GUY
12-06-2007, 3:54 PM
Thanks for the link. But why don't they just tag it 5.56? Look at FJOLD's picture.:shrug:

I have no clue, what did they say when you called?

Rem1492
12-07-2007, 9:12 PM
thanks for all the links, the AR15.com site guy got a reply form ARmalite saying they dont use 223 but their website says 223 specifically for the upper we all got.

Wouldnt ya simply CHANGE your company's webpage to reflect an innacurate statement if you havent used 223 in "years" like he said?

I really want to know, the website says .223, my upper has a tag that says .223, my receipt says .223 but some people think its 5.56. I really need a 5.56 as I own ZERO .223 ammo so I am eager to find out what the correct caliber is.

There appears to be very small stakes on my carrier. More like dents holding the screws in, they seem to do the job, dont look on the outside of the bolt, look on the inside, its a bent circle holding the screw in.

And Chrome lined? Can we get a verification on this?

Happy I got in on the deal, thanks for the heads up guys. Its a really nice shade of black.

ar15barrels
12-07-2007, 9:15 PM
I really want to know, the website says .223, my upper has a tag that says .223, my receipt says .223 but some people think its 5.56. I really need a 5.56 as I own ZERO .223 ammo so I am eager to find out what the correct caliber is.

There appears to be very small stakes on my carrier. More like dents holding the screws in, they seem to do the job, dont look on the outside of the bolt, look on the inside, its a bent circle holding the screw in.

And Chrome lined? Can we get a verification on this?

Bring it over.
I'll measure the chamber and tell you what you have.
I can stake the carrier better too.
Chrome is easy to see if you know what you are looking for.

Clodbuster
12-07-2007, 9:22 PM
Or you can go to Armalite's webpage and read their FAQs.....

http://www.armalite.com/images/Tech%20Notes/Tech%20Note%2045,%205.56%20NATO%20vs%20SAAMI%20.pd f


Clod

thanks for all the links, the AR15.com site guy got a reply form ARmalite saying they dont use 223 but their website says 223 specifically for the upper we all got.

Wouldnt ya simply CHANGE your company's webpage to reflect an innacurate statement if you havent used 223 in "years" like he said?

I really want to know, the website says .223, my upper has a tag that says .223, my receipt says .223 but some people think its 5.56. I really need a 5.56 as I own ZERO .223 ammo so I am eager to find out what the correct caliber is.

There appears to be very small stakes on my carrier. More like dents holding the screws in, they seem to do the job, dont look on the outside of the bolt, look on the inside, its a bent circle holding the screw in.

And Chrome lined? Can we get a verification on this?

Happy I got in on the deal, thanks for the heads up guys. Its a really nice shade of black.

WokMaster1
12-07-2007, 9:28 PM
I have no clue, what did they say when you called?

Spoke with "Mark". He told me that they don't make 223 anymore, only 5.56. He was going to look into it. There's got to be one guy that writes all these pink tags & he's probably the joker....:rolleyes:

Rem1492
12-08-2007, 8:44 AM
Bring it over.
I'll measure the chamber and tell you what you have.
I can stake the carrier better too.
Chrome is easy to see if you know what you are looking for.

Thanks but I am in TX :) most of the year. I treat CA/home like East Germany, I cruise on over, enjoy the ambiance then fly my butt out again before I feel repressed.

DRM6000
12-08-2007, 10:27 AM
got my two uppers:

http://www.filefarmer.com/drm6000/calguns/IMG_4829.jpg

and to address some previous postsa about whether or not these uppers have chrome-lined barrels and chambers:

the lined barrel

http://www.filefarmer.com/drm6000/calguns/IMG_4843.jpg

kinda blurry and faint, but here is the lined chamber (notice the grey ring):

http://www.filefarmer.com/drm6000/calguns/IMG_4849.jpg

do the t-markings look painted on or stamped on?

http://www.filefarmer.com/drm6000/calguns/IMG_4830.jpg

DRM6000
12-08-2007, 10:32 AM
there is some rust around the fsb pins and it looks like it's coming out from under the front. should i be concerned?

http://www.filefarmer.com/drm6000/calguns/IMG_4835copy.jpg

ar15barrels
12-08-2007, 4:13 PM
there is some rust around the fsb pins and it looks like it's coming out from under the front. should i be concerned?

http://www.filefarmer.com/drm6000/calguns/IMG_4835copy.jpg

Normal.

http://www.ar15barrels.com/tech/bushmaster-fsb-park.jpg

The rust is caused by the parkerizing solution getting trapped between the barrel and FSB after the barrel is removed from the parkerizing tank.
You can knock the FSB off, wipe it out, oil it and put it all back together if it really bothers you.

DRM6000
12-08-2007, 4:23 PM
i didn't know that it's normal. i've never seen it on any of my other uppers. i thought maybe something was wrong. i'll just wipe it off.

maxicon
12-08-2007, 9:22 PM
Don't some of the makers park under the FSB? I was told my CMMG upper was parked under it, but I've never had it off.

ar15barrels
12-08-2007, 9:39 PM
Don't some of the makers park under the FSB? I was told my CMMG upper was parked under it, but I've never had it off.

Colt, Stag and CMMG park under the FSB.
Almost nobody else does.

Bushmaster:
http://www.ar15barrels.com/tech/bushmaster-fsb-park.jpg

Colt:
http://www.ar15barrels.com/tech/colt-fsb-park.jpg

LMT:
http://www.ar15barrels.com/tech/lmt-fsb-park.jpg

Stag:
http://www.ar15barrels.com/tech/stag-fsb-park.jpg

SlushPup
12-10-2007, 9:34 AM
just looked at armalite's sale for the day.

Is $378 for the M15A4 LEC COMPLETE CARBINE UPPER HALF a good deal still?

NSR500
12-10-2007, 9:39 AM
IMO... $378 is still a good deal. Consider the fact that even from the ultra cheap folks like Model1Sales, you will still pay more than $378 for something of potentially questionable quality.

Prc329
12-10-2007, 11:18 AM
That is a hell of a deal. The cheapest I could find an RRA Mid-length chrome lined upper for is $445 shipped. This is a bit cheaper then that.

.223
12-10-2007, 11:26 AM
What are the odds of Armalite running a sale on 20" uppers? That's about the only thing I'd hold off for.

kmca
12-10-2007, 11:35 AM
What are the odds of Armalite running a sale on 20" uppers? That's about the only thing I'd hold off for.

I don't think it's very probable. The 20" upper I ordered during the last sale is still on backorder.

ar15barrels
12-10-2007, 12:58 PM
That is a hell of a deal. The cheapest I could find an RRA Mid-length chrome lined upper for is $445 shipped.

Those uppers are carbine, not mid-length.
Still a good deal though as Armalite is good quality stuff.

6172crew
12-13-2007, 10:04 AM
Did anyone get the Ar10 uppers yet? I have the M15 but still no word on the other upper I bought.

jmlivingston
12-13-2007, 10:11 AM
AR10 carbine uppers on sale again: $530

http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=UE10A4CB&Category=9f794ab0-7a08-44e0-85d2-34f1832de5ea

kmca
12-13-2007, 11:42 AM
Just got an e-mail from Armalite. My 1-2 week wait has turned into a little more :( Drew tells me their production manager said it would be sometime in the middle of January before they're ready to ship my upper.

maxicon
12-20-2007, 10:46 PM
I stripped and cleaned mine today in hopes of taking it out tomorrow, and got a few pics of the bolt staking. One stake looks OK, if not great, but the other's not so good. There's vestigial staking on the other side, but you have to look closely to spot it in the real world.

Should I just give it a whack with a punch and push it over a bit?

http://maxicon.com/guns/ar/bolt_staking_armalite-1.jpg

http://maxicon.com/guns/ar/bolt_staking_armalite-2.jpg

ETA: And for reference, here's my CMMG bolt - much better staking:
http://maxicon.com/guns/ar/bolt_staking_CMMG-1.jpg

ar15barrels
12-20-2007, 10:54 PM
Should I just give it a whack with a punch and push it over a bit?


Yes.
From the side at an angle to push more metal against the top of the screw head.
If you were local, you could come over and MOACKS it. ;)