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XOne
11-15-2007, 3:27 PM
Hello there everyone,

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Xzorz/11-15-07_1507.jpg

What you are looking at is everything I need to build my "perfect" CA legal AR-15. However, I do not have any tools to put this thing together, nor the technical skill. I am asking you, Calgunners, to help me.

I need one of two things:

1.Someone in the San Francisco area who can build it for me if I pay them.
2.All the information needed to build a CA-legal AR-15, including a list of tools required to properly complete this project.

I have talked to CITY ARMS about this, and they are a bit apprehensive to undertake this project for me, because they do not fully support the use of BB's as a true fixed magazine configuration.

So, can one of you great people help me build this dream?

Take care, and God bless.

Mario

NSR500
11-15-2007, 3:35 PM
Irvington Arms in Fremont might help you out. I remember a few months ago they had a Saturday where they taught people how to assemble.

resistor
11-15-2007, 3:37 PM
You really need a minimum of tools. You could almost get away with less that what is called for if youre creative or somewhat handy.

Start here: http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=226782

SemiAutoSam
11-15-2007, 3:42 PM
If you want City Arms to build it for you show them my "MAG-LOCK" and ask them if they consider it legal enough for them to build it with.

Then you can always add the Bullet Button later down the line.

NEW guy price 25.00 plus catch and shipping.

Below is the thread where I sell my Invention from time to time.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=41634

If you have any questions Please PM or E-Mail to the address in the thread.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/mag-lock/SASML.jpg

Most of all enjoy your build.


Hello there everyone,

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Xzorz/11-15-07_1507.jpg

What you are looking at is everything I need to build my "perfect" CA legal AR-15. However, I do not have any tools to put this thing together, nor the technical skill. I am asking you, Calgunners, to help me.

I need one of two things:

1.Someone in the San Francisco area who can build it for me if I pay them.
2.All the information needed to build a CA-legal AR-15, including a list of tools required to properly complete this project.

I have talked to CITY ARMS about this, and they are a bit apprehensive to undertake this project for me, because they do not fully support the use of BB's as a true fixed magazine configuration.

So, can one of you great people help me build this dream?

Take care, and God bless.

Mario

Ryan HBC
11-15-2007, 3:43 PM
Just dive in and do it yourself! It really isn't as hard as it seems, I promise. Start with the assembling the lower, then attack that hand guard. You'll be an expert in no time.

jandmtv
11-15-2007, 3:56 PM
i think you should plan a road trip to LA and have Randall (ar15barrels) built it for you, there is no one els better than him! or anyone that has all the tools he has.

tdo315
11-15-2007, 4:01 PM
www.ar15.com

There are a bunch of tutorials on there and with minimal tools (I have done it with a pair of taped up channel locks and some small wood scraps) you should have your lower built in about an hour.

edsel6502
11-15-2007, 4:05 PM
Call up Irvington Arms. Ask for Rich. Make a time slot available and he will help you build it up. The link to Irvington Arms is on one of the banners here.

megavolt121
11-15-2007, 4:11 PM
If you want City Arms to build it for you show them my "MAG-LOCK" and ask them if they consider it legal enough for them to build it with.

Then you can always add the Bullet Button later down the line.

NEW guy price 25.00 plus catch and shipping.

Below is the thread where I sell my Invention from time to time.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=41634

If you have any questions Please PM or E-Mail to the address in the thread.

Most of all enjoy your build.

Your "NEW guy price" seems to be more than the price you listed in your thread...:confused:

Full Clip
11-15-2007, 4:14 PM
If you have ever built a model airplane, you can build and AR-15. All you need are some very BASIC tools and a little patience. Buy a how-to book on Amazon (wherever). That's what I did.

aplinker
11-15-2007, 4:16 PM
You should absolutely do the lower work yourself. Put it together, put on the stock. The ONLY specialty tool you'll need is a buttstock (CAR) wrench.

Everyone should build their own lower. It's well worth the (minimal) effort. You'll learn valuable lessons on how to function check your own AR.

Using the instructions on AR15.com, it should take you no more than a couple hours, tops. They are extremely thorough. Installing the bullet button is very easy, as well.

The FF handguard is less simple. It requires removing the delta ring. I would suggest you build it up as far as you can on your own, then getting someone to install the handguard. You can even use it with the plastic one until then.

Hello there everyone,

What you are looking at is everything I need to build my "perfect" CA legal AR-15. However, I do not have any tools to put this thing together, nor the technical skill. I am asking you, Calgunners, to help me.

I need one of two things:

1.Someone in the San Francisco area who can build it for me if I pay them.
2.All the information needed to build a CA-legal AR-15, including a list of tools required to properly complete this project.

I have talked to CITY ARMS about this, and they are a bit apprehensive to undertake this project for me, because they do not fully support the use of BB's as a true fixed magazine configuration.

So, can one of you great people help me build this dream?

Take care, and God bless.

Mario

bwiese
11-15-2007, 4:34 PM
I have built ARs while in bed watching Jay Leno. If you're not messing with the upper you don't need fancy tools.

AR15.COM has good step-by-step build info.

DedEye
11-15-2007, 4:36 PM
I have built ARs while in bed watching Jay Leno. If you're not messing with the upper you don't need fancy tools.

AR15.COM has good step-by-step build info.

Exactly.

Do it yourself, you don't need any special tools.

AJAX22
11-15-2007, 4:40 PM
I've taken to building my lowers while sittin on the john... It doesn't take very long and I've found its easier to track the spring detents down when they are on linolium than when they are on carpet.

Be sure to plug your bathtub and sink drains first.

theseacow
11-15-2007, 4:46 PM
+1 do it yourself. Or you can stop by my place and I'll do it for you for free. I'm in San Jose. It will take about 10-15 minutes.

SemiAutoSam
11-15-2007, 4:47 PM
You are confused Grasshopper.

The price in the thread was 30.00 for the lock and more for the shipping and added options for a total of 47.00 shipped to any address in the US with USPS Signature confirmation So I can tell the customer received what they have paid for.

The Sale price for this new GCN Member is 25 plus the shipping and added options.


Your "NEW guy price" seems to be more than the price you listed in your thread...:confused:

XOne
11-15-2007, 4:48 PM
What do I need to remove the sling mounts? Are they just pins that need to be punched out?

Jeffy
11-15-2007, 4:49 PM
I agree with everyone else who say's build it yourself. I used the How-To on AR25.com and it was easy. Almost too easy. Instead of using vice-grips I used channel locks. This made it super easy to install the pins. The only hard part I has was getting the safety in. The instructions on ar15 was vague and didn't say to push the hammer back till it locks then slide it in. The only other area you could get into trouble is with the small detents which could go flying if you're not really paying attention. I used some precision screwdrivers to help set the roll pins in the rest of the way. Electrical tape on the upper and the channel locks will help prevent scratches and slipping.

The buttstock wrench is really cheap. I think around $6. You can get a multi-tool that will work for handguards for $25-30. That CASV handguard doesn't require a handguard wrench though. Very easy.

BTW: I'm building my very first AR as well. The lower was very simple.

http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=226782

XOne
11-15-2007, 5:15 PM
Ok, I am going to do it myself. There is a gun-show on Saturday, and I will pick up the stock wrench and the easy hand-guard removal tool. I am also going to go buy a rubber mallet, some punches, needle nose pliers, and a ****load of masking/electric tape, and a larger set of pliers.

J_Rock
11-15-2007, 5:19 PM
Ill be at the cow palace too on sat maybe. PM me if you need help

56Chevy
11-15-2007, 5:47 PM
You really need a minimum of tools. You could almost get away with less that what is called for if youre creative or somewhat handy.

Start here: http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=226782
I used that before, and it was really easy.

DRM6000
11-15-2007, 5:48 PM
here's a trick i've learned while building them. install the pins and the the related springs and stuff with the lower and your arms in a plastic shopping bag. when the spring escapes, chances are good it'll stay in the bag.

Henry47
11-15-2007, 10:13 PM
what part of san francisco are you in?

Stormfeather
11-15-2007, 10:16 PM
Send me a PM and I can help you with it. I know it can be a bit unsettling building a firearm your first time. After all, this thing is supposed to go boom with you hands and head on it. Most of us here have built our own, and can tell you its great fun. Message me, you can come over and I can talk you thru it, and show you some of the tricks like the guys here have mentioned.

J_Rock
11-15-2007, 10:25 PM
Is anyone gonna be at the gun show this weekend? We should have our own calgunners booth :D

City Arms isnt all that bad. They are OLL friendly but not BB friendly. If you really need help bring your lower without any evil features(pistol grip and stock) and Dimitri will help you out.

williamkwong
11-15-2007, 10:27 PM
I've built 5 using that link on ar15.com. The only tools I needed is the CAR wrench and a set of pliers.

Give it a try yourself. The directions are simple and straight forward. The hardest part if getting the detent pin in. If helps to not lose it if you install them inside of a plastic bag because they will be under the pressure of the spring and will fly away pretty easily.

JALLEN
11-15-2007, 10:34 PM
Get on the AR15 page, read it, figure out which parts are which, and take your time. The first one I did took me almost all weekend, what with taking out and redoing, and I'm someone who can tell a plier from a screwdriver 3 out of 5 tries!

I just did another tonight for my dedicated AR22, and it was relatively simple, only a couple of pleasant hours, almost no cursing, and only one session on hand and knees with flashlight looking for little doo-hickies that flew off into the darkness at inopportune moments.

Really, it's so easy even a lawyer can do it, with a little help from AR15.com.

My first one worked the first time out, and the only problem I have is that it is hard to shoot it accurately with a huge grin on my face.

NORCALWRECKCHASER
11-15-2007, 11:23 PM
It really isn't that difficult. A hammer and punch set, Taped up Channel locks,A CAR wrench and a manual I had mine down in less than an hour. I had never done it before either. PM me I'm in the South Bay and I'm building a few more soon I have all the tools.:D

SFFRONTMAN
11-15-2007, 11:54 PM
If you need some help assembling or just are to afraid to attempt this yourself, I also have all the correct tools you will need and im located in san francisco, pm me if ya need any help. Ive built 3 lowers using the ar15 guides, and have not had a problem yet.

adamsreeftank
11-16-2007, 12:19 AM
Hi and good luck with your first build.

While I agree with all of the advice about how easy it will be to put together your lower (although it is much easier if you have the right tools), I see a potential problem with the items in your picture.

The free float rail you have looks like it needs to slide on the upper receiver. If that is the case, then you will need to remove the front sight first. Some front sights use taper pins that are easy to tap out with a punch. You just tap them out, slide the sight forward and then install the rail.

On the other hand, some front sights use pins that are pressed in and are just about impossible to get out. I had a Bushmaster upper like that. In that case, you would be better off with one of the two part rails that bolt onto the barrel nut.

Based on that, a trip to Irvington Arms might be in order.

XOne
11-16-2007, 12:34 AM
I need to remove the front sling loop that is attached to the front sight; I hope it is not in there with a pressed revit.

tenringtaz
01-09-2008, 2:14 PM
Is it done, is it done??? :confused::confused:

We wanna see it!!! "GUN-PORN" [pictures of guns - not REAL porn...] is goooooooooood! :p

XOne
01-09-2008, 2:45 PM
Waiting for my scope to arrive (Trijicon Accupoint):

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Xzorz/DSC00178.jpg

And while I have the chance, I will show off my shotgun I just built:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Xzorz/DSC00181.jpg

tenringtaz
01-09-2008, 3:38 PM
Hey! My wife has those same placemats! Ha Ha Ha...

Nice looking guns there XOne... Look at you now. Building a shotgun too!

GO MAN, GO!!! :gunsmilie:

WokMaster1
01-09-2008, 4:14 PM
I concur!!! Beautiful builds for both!:D

SunriseF150
01-09-2008, 4:18 PM
They both look great.

USN CHIEF
01-09-2008, 4:48 PM
Congratulations on your AR... Looks good... What kind of Shotgun is that?

XOne
01-09-2008, 6:11 PM
It is a Mossberg 500a. :)

SunriseF150
01-10-2008, 8:33 AM
It is a Mossberg 500a. :)

Really? What the hell did you use to turn it into that beast?

XOne
01-10-2008, 4:09 PM
Just finished building this one:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Xzorz/DSC00190.jpg

mltrading
01-10-2008, 4:18 PM
If you can read/post messages at this forum, you have sufficient knowledge/skill to build an AR, period.

I am at Fremont/San Jose. If you have any questions or need to borrow special AR-related tools, let me know. I'd be more than happy to help.

XOne
01-10-2008, 4:26 PM
If you look at the past few pages, I already built it :)

mltrading
01-10-2008, 5:00 PM
If you look at the past few pages, I already built it :)

Excellent work!!! If you need parts in the future, we'd be happy to serve you.

McMadCow
01-10-2008, 8:47 PM
Wow, another black rifle nutjob in San Fran! We should go shooting sometime! :D