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hylander
11-10-2007, 8:50 PM
I have Formsby Tung Oil, but I read it is not real Tung Oil.
So what brand and where can I get it ?
This will be for my 03A3

M. Sage
11-10-2007, 8:55 PM
Did you read the back of your Formby's? Mine says it's a blend of tung and "other penetrating oils." Looks great, seems to be water-resistant.

hylander
11-10-2007, 8:57 PM
Did you read the back of your Formby's? Mine says it's a blend of tung and "other penetrating oils." Looks great, seems to be water-resistant.

It says it has Varnish in it

chickenfried
11-10-2007, 9:01 PM
Not sure if there's a location by you in lincoln, I go to the one in San Carlos. But woodcraft stores carry 100% tung oil.
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=768
Another option for ordering http://www.realmilkpaint.com/oil.html

chickenfried
11-10-2007, 9:06 PM
Is sacramento close enough to lincoln?
http://www.woodcraft.com/stores/Default.aspx?locate=state&state=CA

M. Sage
11-10-2007, 9:09 PM
It says it has Varnish in it

Actually, it says it's a tung oil varnish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varnish#Drying_Oils

hylander
11-10-2007, 9:10 PM
Thanks guys;
And yes Sac is close :D

chickenfried
11-10-2007, 10:08 PM
The MSDS shows formby's tung oil contains 70% mineral spirits doesn't list any of the other ingredients.

Actually, it says it's a tung oil varnish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varnish#Drying_Oils

ocabj
11-10-2007, 10:19 PM
All the guys on the Parallax C&R Forums talked about how great Behr's #600 Scandanavian Tung Oil Finish is. I drove all the way from Riverside to an Ace Hardware in Norco for it because it was the closest retailer that had it.

The stuff is good. From what I understand, Behrs #600 is discontinued.

If you want pure tung oil, also known as China wood oil, you should be able to find it in generic cans at any home improvement store.

In my opinion, tung oil doesn't really do much for looks. All it does is treat the wood. If the color of the wood is going to change from pure tung oil, it won't happen for decades. If you're trying to get the same look as the wood on 1903A3 or M1 Garands, the arsenals used a specially formulated tung oil finish, not pure tung oil.

8200rpm
11-10-2007, 11:04 PM
BROWNELL'S

$10.29 per pint with your C&R discount.

http://www.brownells.com/Images/Products/083042016.jpg

Our Pure Tung Oil is 100% pure, natural tung oil without additives or driers, for beautiful, hand-rubbed, in-the-wood finishes.

SPECS: 16 fl. oz. (473mL)

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=1138&title=OIL+STOCK+FINISHES

hylander
11-10-2007, 11:13 PM
In my opinion, tung oil doesn't really do much for looks. All it does is treat the wood. If the color of the wood is going to change from pure tung oil, it won't happen for decades. If you're trying to get the same look as the wood on 1903A3 or M1 Garands, the arsenals used a specially formulated tung oil finish, not pure tung oil.

The color of the wood right now is fine, I just want it protected.

-hanko
11-11-2007, 6:29 AM
In my opinion, tung oil doesn't really do much for looks. All it does is treat the wood. If the color of the wood is going to change from pure tung oil, it won't happen for decades. If you're trying to get the same look as the wood on 1903A3 or M1 Garands, the arsenals used a specially formulated tung oil finish, not pure tung oil.

The color of the wood right now is fine, I just want it protected.
Linspeed from Brownells' does a nice job and is easy to apply and touch up. It's mainly blo with dryers. What also works well is the old 1/1/1 finish: equal parts blo, turpentine and bees wax. The Brownells' tung product shown above is also nice. Tung oil will give you more of a glossy finish than blo, if you need less shine, apply the last few coats with 3-ought or 4-ought steel wool.

-hanko

mur
11-11-2007, 7:13 AM
All the guys on the Parallax C&R Forums talked about how great Behr's #600 Scandanavian Tung Oil Finish is. I drove all the way from Riverside to an Ace Hardware in Norco for it because it was the closest retailer that had it.

The stuff is good. From what I understand, Behrs #600 is discontinued.


Not exactly discontinued (special order), however it is banned in California.
However Behr's sister company True Tone sells the same exact stuff
"True Tone T400 Tung Oil"
Still hard to find (at least around San Jose)
I did purchased a can through Amazon though

metalhead357
11-11-2007, 7:36 AM
I've had nothing BUT LUCK with Formby's- both the low and high gloss.

If you do want it darker, especially the "military look" of the garands then you outta try chestnut ridge <alcohol-based> stain before using the tung: they claim the alcohol based ones will go right through oils- but I've yet to try that route. And oh, if you do go with Chestnut ridgel...it is reddish, a lot of peeps will cut it with brown.

this will give you the idea of Formbys and straight Chestnut

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/metalhead357/Refinished%20stocks/CMP018.jpg



http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/metalhead357/Refinished%20stocks/CMP021.jpg


EDIT: and Oh...5.4 mil SA before anyone asks! And No, she aint for sale!!!!

NRAhighpowershooter
11-11-2007, 8:06 AM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/metalhead357/Refinished%20stocks/CMP018.jpg



http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/metalhead357/Refinished%20stocks/CMP021.jpg


EDIT: and Oh...5.4 mil SA before anyone asks! And No, she aint for sale!!!!

is it for sale???



:p

metalhead357
11-11-2007, 8:37 AM
is it for sale???



:p


For YOU...NO SOUP!


No seriously, for YOU, a trade for an IHC and some cash could be negotiated:D

NRAhighpowershooter
11-11-2007, 9:37 AM
For YOU...NO SOUP!


No seriously, for YOU, a trade for an IHC and some cash could be negotiated:D


How about a low numbered, reparked 4 digit receiver???? :D

hylander
11-11-2007, 9:55 AM
I think i will go with the Formsby Low Gloss since I already have it and
it has done well on the other rifles I have done :)

SDJim
11-11-2007, 1:46 PM
Give these guys a try http://www.realmilkpaint.com/oil.html

I've used this stuff on gun stocks, cutting boards, ax handles . . . it leaves a slightly shiny finish, or you can hit it with a little 0000 steel wool to give it a nice matte finish.

thefinger
11-11-2007, 3:06 PM
+1 for Formsby. I used it on my garand and it leaves it with the natural feel and look that I desire on my milsurps.

mstlaurent
11-11-2007, 3:59 PM
You can order it from Rockler as well:

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=6524

kurac
11-11-2007, 4:43 PM
I see lots of threads about 100% pure tung oil and peoples quest to find it. Does anyone actually use 100% tung oil? chances are you have to cut it with something thats why normally you find it in a pre blended form.

metalhead357
11-11-2007, 4:52 PM
I see lots of threads about 100% pure tung oil and peoples quest to find it. Does anyone actually use 100% tung oil? chances are you have to cut it with something thats why normally you find it in a pre blended form.


EXACTLY.... and the dry time for 100% is DAYS...not hours or 1 day but DAYS.

I cut the formby's STARTING with 75% MS//25% tung, then next round is 50/50 then down to 25%MS//75% Tung and end with 100% tung (Formbys that is..which is NOT 100% true legit Tung without additives.)

kurac
11-11-2007, 5:24 PM
Pure tung oil is some sticky guey stuff. It was used to pot electronics for a long time and may still be used for that application.

hylander
11-11-2007, 7:25 PM
EXACTLY.... and the dry time for 100% is DAYS...not hours or 1 day but DAYS.

I cut the formby's STARTING with 75% MS//25% tung, then next round is 50/50 then down to 25%MS//75% Tung and end with 100% tung (Formbys that is..which is NOT 100% true legit Tung without additives.)

I applied the first coat of 100% Formsby today.
After reading this post I'm thinking I should have cut it 50/50 :o
To late now.
Would it hurt to cut the second coat tomorrow ?

metalhead357
11-11-2007, 7:29 PM
I applied the first coat of 100% Formsby today.
After reading this post I'm thinking I should have cut it 50/50 :o
To late now.
Would it hurt to cut the second coat tomorrow ?


Dunno, I've heard peeps do it both ways...my thoughts were/are with it cut it would penetrate deeper (Or so I hope) but people DO use multiple coats...might wanna Steel wool it inbetween to smooth it out and re-open possible pores.

M. Sage
11-11-2007, 7:52 PM
I didn't cut the Formby's at all, didn't have a problem with the stuff soaking right in, either! It took 3 or 4 coats. Steel wool in-between coats, +1. Just follow the directions, and keep rubbing. Err...

Parag
11-11-2007, 8:09 PM
I think I found some at Orchard Supply.

-- Parag

icormba
11-11-2007, 9:13 PM
Not exactly discontinued (special order), however it is banned in California.
However Behr's sister company True Tone sells the same exact stuff
"True Tone T400 Tung Oil"
Still hard to find (at least around San Jose)
I did purchased a can through Amazon though

Did the people at Home Depot tell you its Banned? That is a bit funny considering the cans I have say they are distributed out of Santa Anna, California. I had to go to 4 HD in the San Jose area until I finally got a Manager (Lafayette Store in Santa Clara)to special order it. He said he could only special order a case, 6 cans. Done deal @ around $30. The shipping label even said shipped from Santa Anna.

I was originally a bit upset with the Home Depot folks because they said the product didn't exist even though I had a print out right from the Behr website, a company they own! I found it odd they carried other brands of so called Tung Oil but not the one from their own people. Ha-ha!

phish
11-12-2007, 1:59 PM
I think I found some at Orchard Supply.

-- Parag


Is it the white bottle labeled "Jasco"? If so, then it is the real stuff.

Opinions always vary, but I prefer unpolymerized tung oil on wood. Good wood grain shouldn't need dyes or stains imho. :cool:

mur
11-12-2007, 3:44 PM
Did the people at Home Depot tell you its Banned? That is a bit funny considering the cans I have say they are distributed out of Santa Anna, California. I had to go to 4 HD in the San Jose area until I finally got a Manager (Lafayette Store in Santa Clara)to special order it. He said he could only special order a case, 6 cans. Done deal @ around $30. The shipping label even said shipped from Santa Anna.

I was originally a bit upset with the Home Depot folks because they said the product didn't exist even though I had a print out right from the Behr website, a company they own! I found it odd they carried other brands of so called Tung Oil but not the one from their own people. Ha-ha!

Well I did Special Order it from HD (Hamilton Store in Campbell)
After I told the Manager to Call Behr Directly.

I ordered the 6 cans, waited about 3 weeks then got a
Letter in the mail from Home Depot stating that the EPA does not allow it in CA.

Parag
11-12-2007, 6:54 PM
Is it the white bottle labeled "Jasco"? If so, then it is the real stuff.

I don't remember which brand it was - just that there was some Tung oil there. (I was looking for some other stuff at the time.) I'll keep your recommendation in mind tho', when I run out my bottle of Danish Teak Oil (still half-full).

-- Parag

otteray
11-17-2007, 2:09 PM
Ace Hardware
TruOil
Oil Based
Tung Oil Finish
It's the same as the discontinued Behr 600
I got mine at Santa Cruz at the Westside store by Safeway Mission St (Hwy 1 at Almar Ave)