Most annoying thing you've overheard at a gun shop?

[rivviepop]

I hear a lot of them at a certain shop where the... more un-gun-educated parties tend to shop. I think the best so far has been...

"I want a gun that makes me big holes and shoots fast"
*groan*

(altho there was the time when girlfriend was in the shop trying to buy ammo for boyfriend she had on her cellphone, and boyfriend didn't even know what kind of ammo he needed. that was more funny than annoying, I think)

[VeryCoolCat]

I've heard some pretty racist dribble from gun stores... but its also comes from customers

[jaymz]

AR15's are illegal. Just heard that again today at Bass Pro Shops. I tried a little bit of educating, but the guy didn't want to hear it. Whatever.

[DedEye]

AR15's are illegal. Just heard that again today at Bass Pro Shops. I tried a little bit of educating, but the guy didn't want to hear it. Whatever.

Agreed. I don't hang around gunshops that much, but it's probably the most annoying thing I've heard in one.

[stagolee]

My wife heard: "You're gonna need to show an HSC card before we'll let you handle any firearms" at Tabors.

[rivviepop]

My wife heard: "You're gonna need to show an HSC card before we'll let you handle any firearms" at Tabors.

...isn't that normal? I know of some shops who have that policy, and have been asked the same question before being handed a gun to manhandle at least once, maybe twice. (now they all know me and my manhandling ways :) heh)

[VegasND]

Salesman here in Vegas said you've got to be a resident for 90 days before you can buy handguns. That's a lie. Anyone moves to NV and wants to buy-just head for another store.

[Ford8N]

"Anyone that has an OLL is going to go to JAIL."

I still hear to this day.:nuts:

[Maddog5150]

"I read it on the internet! its true!"

[Mssr. Eleganté]

The most annoying thing I've overheard at a gunshop is:

"For firearms transfers we charge DROS plus $100 or DROS plus 10% of the firearm value, whichever is more."

[hitman13]

"a 9mm will only piss someone off, now a .45........."

[Maddog5150]

"I need a handgun for my wife/girlfriend/mother. Let me see that scandium lightweight j-frame .357 against your advice. Its small so it must be better for a woman."

[mecam]

"Is this thing loud?"

[chiefcrash]

"you need proof of residency for all firearm purchases, including long guns..."

"ok, you can pick it up after 11 days..."

"you have to buy a trigger lock with that rifle, a gun safe form don't work anymore..."

[Blue]

"This thing'll blow your head clean off..."

[pieeater]

This SKS was owned by Hồ Chí Minh himself.
















OK I didnt hear it but i'm sure its been said.

[Blue]

Oh yea and "Two weeks" :D

[Sam Hainn]

Is that real? Is that a machine gun? No? What about that one there, is that a machine gun? No? What about that one?

Bro - I'm lookin to get me a deuce-deuce.

Bro - I'm lookin to get me a 45.

Bro - I'm lookin to get me a gat.

Fool, that's a glock 44 magnum, fool.

That thing'll shoot down a helicopter.

When did they pass that law? (usually over an anti-gun law that's been around about 5 years)

Sorry, we don't do PPT's.

[Gunsrruss]

Oh yea and "Two weeks" :D

Yea, I'm still waiting....Who was that masked man who said that???

[mecam]

I have to wait 10 days, I can't take it home now?

[Sam Hainn]

I have to wait 10 days, I can't take it home now?

I've heard that one - plus temper-tantrum from the person that said it like it was the dealer's fault. :rolleyes:

[gwl]

My wife heard: "You're gonna need to show an HSC card before we'll let you handle any firearms" at Tabors.

Yeah, I've heard that more than once at Tabors.

Just heard this one today, "WTF. You mean THIS gun only holds TEN bullets? Do you have any that hold more . . . like 17 or something like that?"

[Josh3239]

Besides the already stated;

1) Regarding 10/30 mags - "Can I restore these to hold 30 rounds?"
2) Regarding the Kasler list - "The DOJ will eventually add OLLs to the list."
3) Regarding my fixed mag AK47 - "That flash hider and bayonet lug are illegal."
4) Regarding an out of state transfer on a long gun - "Just have him ship it to you and get it registered to yourself."
5) Calling a shotgun a shottie.

[ghost]

"do you have anything in full-auto?"
"what range can you bump fire at?"

i thought these questions were more funny than annoying:D

[BillCA]

"Why isn't there an 'off' switch?"
--asked by a total newbie looking for his first gun.


"Yeah, I used to be an armorer in the Army."
--said by a late 20's guy just before he let the slide drop on an empty Kimber.


"A .223 can hit you in the left shoulder and exit the front of your right ankle." :rolleyes:


"The .223 only has an effective range of 200 yards."


"The 9mm beats out the .45. It sure worked for the Germans in the last big war."
--No sense in pointing out...the Germans lost.


"You don't want a Rock Island. Their frames are cast and castings never hold up."
--At a gunshop with more Rugers than any other brand


"Just be sure to drag his body over the doorstep before the cops arrive."
--Blowhard giving home defense advice. :rolleyes:


"Never buy military surplus stuff. If BATF catches you with even a recoil spring from an M16 you go to jail for having a machinegun."


"Everyone knows snub-nosed revolvers are inaccurate."


"Yeah, cops stopped using revolvers in the 80's 'cause they can't fire them as fast as a semi-auto pistol."
--From a customer who never heard of Ed McGivern or Jerry Miculek.

"A Glock fotay will blow a guy back about six feet."
--Said by a oh-so knowledgeable white guy to a friend.

"1911's are no good. They always jam. That's why the military got rid of 'em."
--But only after what... 85 years?

"Do you have any bullets that will only wound someone, but not kill them?"
--Asked by a woman in a gun shop as a serious question.

Swaggering young turk: "Show me something in .50 Caliber."
Clerk hands him a long, heavy rifle.
Turk: "Sweet. How many shots does this hold?"
Clerk: "One."
Turk: "One? Only one?"
Clerk: "Yup. It's a muzzleloader."
Me (nearby): :rolleyes:

[Timberwolf]

Not at a gunshop but at the range - upon seeing my prec rifle with its brake, thumbhole stock and ten round detachable mags - aren't those illegal in California - - - never mind its a bolt gun.

[Blue]

Not at a gunshop but at the range - upon seeing my prec rifle with its brake, thumbhole stock and ten round detachable mags - aren't those illegal in California - - - never mind its a bolt gun.

What I want to know, is who really cares? I hear that crap all the time "Is that a REGISTERED AR15?" People need to mind their own business. I understand the laws and what not, but I can imagine some people with reg'd AW's getting alittle tired of it.

[stagolee]

Heh. This is a fun thread.

How about this one:

Emphatically: "There is no such thing as 'expanding full metal jacket'" from a sales guy at Traders, back in 2001.

I simply left him to wallow his own ignorance.

--

In any gun shop:

"I want the gun that _____ used in the movie _____."

[RP1911]

"you have to buy a trigger lock with that rifle, a gun safe form don't work anymore..."

Ah, I was forced to buy one at a store last week even after I said the safe affidavit covers it. I didn't argue much. I wanted my gun and I wanted out of there. I think that's how he makes $s. By charging $12.95 for a lock that retails for $4.95 in other stores.

[Shane916]

Need I say more..

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=71172

:D

[m24armorer]

Funny, I was asked if I had a machinegun.
I said no and I would stop the rapid semi-auto fire.

[Maddog5150]

"Y'all got a clip fo mah tre eighty?" -random white dude with his pants around his knees

"hey, do this thing go loud?" -younger gang banger in a group
"All firearms are loud sir" - Me trying to help a couple with their first purchase
"naw foo. is is like a bark like a BOOM BOOM or a pow pow." same ganger
"..." - me
"I said-" - " ganger
"Yeah I heard you. Excuse me sir Im trying to help these folks out." me
"Can I test this gun out on you?" ganger
"Get out... NOW" me
Older ganger banger then smacks the younger one up side the head on the way out.



"Do you have bullets that make the gun quiet? If i shoot someone at night i dont want to wake everbody up." - Random dude who was talking to himself randomly and got DOJ denied.

"It doesnt matter if someone is talking to themselves or said they are crazy! as long as he says no to the four questions and marks the 4473 correctly you cant deny sale just on that alone! Are you his psychiatrist? No? Then sell him the gun and run his DROS!" - Agent
"*chuckling*" - Me (my conversation with a DOJ agent when I was a little green behind the ears at a gun shop. It was regarding the above customer. Dont worry. He got DOJ denied :rolleyes:

"I got denied for a gun purchase. Is a shotty or a rifle considered a gun?" -same customer

PHONE CALL
"Hello, how may I help you?" - co-worker
"Hi! how do I get to you store?" - Woman
"where are you coming from?" - co-worker
"Im coming from here..." - Woman
"Ummm ma'am? Where is here? where are you at right now so I can give you directions?"
"I just told you! Im right here. Im coming from here!"
"*sigh* ummm Ma'am? where is here? do you see any signs or cross streets?"
"I see..... look Im coming from here are you going to help me or not!?"
an utter confused look on my co-workers face as he slowly puts the phone on the hook.

"I WANT MY ****ING GUN NOW!!!!!" - random customer

I can go all night with this. :D

[CRTguns]

that's easy... the customer who asks me, "uhhh... what's the best gun?"

Cannot top that for the dumbest thing ever heard.

Cause I've heard it like a hundred times!

[CSDGuy]

Ah, I was forced to buy one at a store last week even after I said the safe affidavit covers it. I didn't argue much. I wanted my gun and I wanted out of there. I think that's how he makes $s. By charging $12.95 for a lock that retails for $4.95 in other stores.
You can blame the BATFE for that...

[m24armorer]

Stupid is as stupid dumb**es do.

As a dealer you do have the right to throw them out.

[ivanimal]

I would like a light gun but with no recoil in 45.

[CavTrooper]

Most annoying?

"10 day waiting period"

[chiefcrash]

You can blame the BATFE for that...

for handguns, maybe. but we're talking about RIFLES...

[chickenfried]

you forgot the ten day storage fee

The most annoying thing I've overheard at a gunshop is:

"For firearms transfers we charge DROS plus $100 or DROS plus 10% of the firearm value, whichever is more."

[CRTguns]

True story... a guy once began telling me what he wanted me to build... To summarize, I said, "so you want a trajectory like the .204, the recoil of a rubber-band gun, the thing needs to shoot moa, kill a moose or grizzly, and weigh in at about 8 pounds with the scope, right?"

He looked all excited, and thinking he'd flatter my ego, says (not jokingly), "So what's it going to be? I Know you can make this happen Dave... Just remember, I got a $1000.00 budget."

Guys... I aged 15 years in that moment. All the stress, wear on my heart and brain, and all the patience and tolerance that would have endured that 15 years was gone.

He think's I'm in the middle of building this miracle gun project.

[4 Brigada]

No S**T, if I wasnt there I would have never believed it, 2 very distinctly dressed gentlemen low drawers chonies showing, wanted to rent the guns a service provided by this range, so they started to fill out the paperwork everything fine until they asked if they just pay the deposit now and the rental when they brought them back. The other 2 sales persons came out to assist the one at the counter and invited the gentlemen to leave.

[bigthaiboy]

I was at a gun show looking at a muzzle brake for my 7.62x39mm SKS (like the one below), the seller proceeds to tell me that : This brake will make your SKS recoil feel like you're shooting a .22".

I felt like leaning over the table and slapping round the head for being an idiot.

5715

[tenpercentfirearms]

I've heard some pretty racist dribble from gun stores... but its also comes from customers
This is the truth. With the exception of the other day I had two hispanic guys in from Santa Paula and I know a guy from Santa Paula. I am trying to remember his name and the one guy says, "Was he a white guy?" I reply, "No he was a brown guy." I immediately corrected myself and they were cool with it, but boy I sounded like a red neck.

Man you guys don't even know. My pet peeve has to be when I have something behind the counter like a pistol grip shotgun or something along those lines not an AR15 or AK47 and they say, "Is that legal?"

"No moron, I like to sell illegal weapons in town, like the last gun dealer that got shot when they raided him." WTF? :confused:

I really hate customers who say, "Where are the fun guns? I need a machine gun or a silencer" or something stupid like that. Don't waste my time dude, you are not funny.

I guess these guys that think they were being funny might be, if they were the first guy to say it. I guess they don't realize they are the 45th guy to say it...that day. :mad:

[socalguns]

In the post 9-11 world that kind of BS is especially not funny.

[subdjoe]

"I want a BB gun so I can scare someone off if they try to break in."

(when checking a gentleman into the range and inspecting his firearm)
"Sir, in CA it is illegal to have a loaded magazine in the gun even if it is in a locked container" (reply in a haughty, superior voice) Not if you have a CCW!
(well EXCUSE ME - I missed the tatoo on your forehead of your permit)

A LEO, when the Federal AWB expired, was excited because then he could buy some fun toys. I had to point out to him that CA still had its AWB, so he was SOL. But, unlike me, he could get something on department letterhead and buy whatever, he just had to stay on the force to keep it. (and WE are expected to know all the gun laws while the people who enforce them aren't)

A letter from the CADOJ to a customer who asked about the CA legal AR varients stated that the items in question were, as far as the DOJ was concerned, legal. But check with your local DA as that official may not agree and they may be illegal in your are (uh....why can a local DA override state law?)

Joe

[EOD Guy]

Heh. This is a fun thread.

How about this one:

Emphatically: "There is no such thing as 'expanding full metal jacket'" from a sales guy at Traders, back in 2001.



Excuse my ignorance, but what kind of full metal jacket bullet expands. I've never heard of one. A full metal jacket bullet is designed not to expand.

[Gator Monroe]

My question to A Salesman at southbay/OC Gunshop (I asked "Do you collect or own any firearms?") (His Response " No I live on a Sail boat and sail to mexico sometimes ,and they do not like Americans with guns!") I then asked Manager of same shop ("Do You guy's sell Any SKS variants") (His Response " No those are Illegal in California ! Assualt Weapons !") :confused:

[quickgunner]

Does this hip holster make my @$$ look fat?... I wish I was kidding on this one... but I think it was this womens first time using a concealed carry and was trying to find different holders.

[sargenv]

Was in a local but now non-firearms selling location in the bay area one time.. Homie was in the store talking like he thought he knew what was up.. He then asks for a box of fo-tays.. He opens the box and then tells the clerk behind the counter that he doesn't want these and wants some of those "aerodynamic bullets" that they reserve for police officers but can't/won't sell to the general public... I think I was waiting in line for something, and had to bite my tongue..HARD... to keep from laughing at that idiot.. Of course they couldn't sell him any "aerodynamic bullets" since standard 40 cal ammo sold in large amounts is basically Truncated cone flat points.. Like Homie is going to be able to tell the difference at 7 yards?

sheesh..

[paradox]

Excuse my ignorance, but what kind of full metal jacket bullet expands. I've never heard of one. A full metal jacket bullet is designed not to expand.

http://www.federalpremium.com/default.asp?menu=1&s1=7

[hoozaru]

"that AK wont hit anything after 200 yards"

I will be like f off stupid noob

[torsf]

"Anyone that has an OLL is going to go to JAIL."

I still hear to this day.:nuts:

Another variation on that:

"Don't assemble it; you may get a letter from the DOJ real quick that you have to turn it in"

oooooh, and from a big 5 employee:

"any government paper works for proof of residency... we could sell you a fishing license and that would count" :confused:

[Max-the-Silent]

My wife heard: "You're gonna need to show an HSC card before we'll let you handle any firearms" at Tabors.

I'd rather be caught by my fiancee in a whorehouse than go to Tabor's.

[EOD Guy]

http://www.federalpremium.com/default.asp?menu=1&s1=7


Ok, but I would not really call that a traditional FMJ, but a variant or hybrid with a collapsing point that the manufacturer chooses to call a full metal jacket.

[lawnrevenge]

"any government paper works for proof of residency... we could sell you a fishing license and that would count"

They just did that to my friend.

[grammaton76]

My wife heard: "You're gonna need to show an HSC card before we'll let you handle any firearms" at Tabors.

Most likely, they want to make sure you're likely to buy rather than just fondle.

[E Pluribus Unum]

The key ones I hear irritate the fizzle out of me!


"You must keep a handgun in a locked case at all times in your car and the ammunition must be separate..... "

The term that pizzes me off: "Assault Weapon" If I use a spoon to stab you in the eye, the spoon is an assault weapon.

I hear this all of the time: "I can understand owning a .3006 or something like that but there is just no practical reason why anyone should own an AK-47"


Excuses for ignorance that tick me off:

"I know this because Second Amendment's CCW class instructor Don Busse told me"

"I know this because I was an FFL for 10 years"

and the key one:

<arnold voice> "I'm a cop you idiot"

[Gator Monroe]

Brown (UPS) just left and it aint in yet !:eek::confused::mad:

[Fjold]

I'd rather be caught by my fiancee in a whorehouse than go to Tabor's.

Why would your fiancee be in a whorehouse?

[Spiggy]

usually this one occurs away from the gun shops

*Friend's girlfriend/girlfriend's mother pointing out the neatly packed shotgun and/or rifle in the trunk of my car*

"do you have a license for that?"



-the answer is "no", and will god willing always be "no". Looks on their faces are priceless though :P

[maxicon]

One that sticks with me was in the early days of Fab 10 at one of the local gun shows. A dealer had a table full of Fab 10s in various builds, and lots of people standing around getting worked up about them.

This one big guy excitedly says "Do you take cash???"

I try to be polite, but I let out a little snort of amusement. The look on his face made me glad there's a 10 day wait!

[DedEye]

usually this one occurs away from the gun shops

*Friend's girlfriend/girlfriend's mother pointing out the neatly packed shotgun and/or rifle in the trunk of my car*

"do you have a license for that?"



-the answer is "no", and will god willing always be "no". Looks on their faces are priceless though :P

Same, I'm always very happy to say no, nor are my rifles registered.

[ibanezfoo]

When I was looking at an AR: "Whoa man, you are allowed to buy a machine gun?"

Old bubba guy with a dirty harry revolver: "with this here you can blow a mans leg clean off" Actually I hear something similar just about every time... bleh

-Bryan

[tombinghamthegreat]

"you have to be 21 to buy handgun ammo"

"well we recommended you buy bird shot because it will be enough for home defense but if you just want to go out and kill people i guess you can buy the slugs and buckshot"-big 5

The big 5 out in Thousand Oaks tends to be unconforable selling guns and ammo. Maybe walking in with my school backpack did not help. At least i go better places to buy ammo.

[phish]

but I can imagine some people with reg'd AW's getting alittle tired of it.

no kidding...

:rolleyes:

[bigthaiboy]

I'm standing there talking to the owner of my local gunstore when a young guy comes in and sees a M1919A1 and says:
"Is that legal?"
Reply was: "Yes".
He sees a bunch of AR uppers, and says again: "Are these legal?"
Reply was: "Yes".
He proceeds to ask the same question another two times about other stuff in the shop, each time interupting our conversation, by which time I can no longer bite my tongue and I had to say out loud to him and the gunstore owner :
"If you have to ask, you don't need it!"

Gunshop owner chuckles and asks him if he's after anything in particular. Turns out he's after a part for his AR-15. Again, I had to bite my tongue not to ask "Is your AR-15 legal?" Probably not based on his lack of knowledge.

My point is, if this question irritated me after a hearing it said just four times in 5 minutes, how do FFL's deal with hearing it every single day, 5 or 6 days a week?

:banghead:

[bigthaiboy]

"you have to be 21 to buy handgun ammo"

Earlier this year, I was carded in a Las Vegas gunstore when buying some .45ACP. I had to tell the shop owner: "I'm old enough to have 21 year old children".
His reply was: "As I get older, everyone else looks younger".

At least he had a good sense of humor about it. He also advised me to keep my tax-deductable receipt (to protect my home office). On asking my accountant's opinion, he agreed with him!

[milsurpshooter]

my favorite is " is that the gun dirty harry used"

[rorschach]

Overheard at Turners Norwalk

Tatted Cholo #1: Get a Glock 9 dog, so you can blast fools.
Tatted Cholo #2: Naw foo, I want the "gauge", but I gotta get my "ruka" to buy it.

They ended up buying BB's and CO2.

[Shane916]

"I tried to buy a handgun but got denied cuz' my probation wasn't up yet."

Just last week :)

[Corbin Dallas]

I was told by a reliable source about this one:

Turners KM - Sorry man, I can't sell you that Winchester Rifle, it's not on the DOJ approved list.

[Fjold]

The worst thing that I ever heard in a gunshop was:

"That will be $1,647.36, cash or charge?"

[thominator]

Just last week I was at Turners in Pasadena picking up my Beretta AL391, and this newbie who was in his late 40's, early 50's was holding a pistol and had the muzzle pointed at me. I said, "Watch where you're pointing that thing." His response, "But my finger is off the trigger." I said, "Sir, I don't care where any of your fingers are, don't ever point a gun at anyone unless you intend to shoot that person." Another customer chimed in and said regarding my comment, "He's got a good point."

Gee, ya think???? :mad:

[Bizcuits]

When I was younger, like 12-13, I used to go the Cal Expo gun shows all the time with my older brother and dad.

One day we bought A LOT of ammo and a couple of SKS's. We were walking back to the car with multiple long rifles just slung over our backs and our hands filled with 50cal ammo cans.

My brother and I used to wear bdu's when we were younger.

Anyways.. as we're walking to the car we pass this yuppie family who are going to the water world area. The dad looks at us and points saying to his kids,

"Oh look its navy seals"

[Cali-V]

I was at a local shop and a newbie was looking for a HD item...
He says "I want something really scary... If somebody breaks in, I don't want to shoot'em"...

I simply shook my head, and intently surveyed the Kimber in hand, while the shop owner started class... Newbies

[grammaton76]

At the Del Mar show... "This is a special edition Vietnam sniper SKS rifle!"

I am pretty sure that VC snipers never used dust cover mounts...

[Gator Monroe]

Just last week I was at Turners in Pasadena picking up my Beretta AL391, and this newbie who was in his late 40's, early 50's was holding a pistol and had the muzzle pointed at me. I said, "Watch where you're pointing that thing." His response, "But my finger is off the trigger." I said, "Sir, I don't care where any of your fingers are, don't ever point a gun at anyone unless you intend to shoot that person." Another customer chimed in and said regarding my comment, "He's got a good point."

Gee, ya think???? :mad:

Anytime your in a Gunshop(Large Crowded) or Gunshow (Large Crowded) and you stay more than half an hour you have weapons pointed at you many times (Especially if you are a seller or are behind a counter) ! I dont get bent outta shape about it anymore especially since the times I was inspecting a firearm and people walk directly into or past its barrel (If it were a Camera and I was taking a picture they would have stopped automatically LOL):confused:

[Timberwolf]

CLassically similar - most Saturdays I'm seen between 0630 and 0700 loading my truck to go to my weekend job at the range - at least one on my prec rifles always goes with me which are carried in drag bags that happen to be desert three color . . . one morning a neighbor wants to know where he can get a camo golf bag like mine . . . yep that's me the guy with the camo golf bag

[metalhead357]

Most annoying thing you've overheard at a gun shop?

Is that a gun in your pocket or you just happy to see me:rolleyes:

yep. Really said. Really sad.

Others:
Do you take food stamps?

Dont try to barter me down with shotgun news- I cant touch thier prices!!!

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

I was at a gun show looking at a muzzle brake for my 7.62x39mm SKS (like the one below), the seller proceeds to tell me that : This brake will make your SKS recoil feel like you're shooting a .22".

I felt like leaning over the table and slapping round the head for being an idiot.

5715

Not getting it.

Would it not have been stupid if he said .223? :confused:

[torsf]

"how much?"

"$xxx"

xxx = more than I can afford :(

[wilshire1412]

I worked for an indoor range about 15 years ago, this was always a good place to hear all sorts of BS. This really happened once. Man walks up to the counter carrying a closed pistol case and asks "what is the cheapest ammo you sell"? I reply .22 lr for $2.50/50 rds. The customer says "ok, I will take a box" then proceeds to open the pistol case. I notice that the pistol is a 1911 type in .45acp and I ask him if he wants any ammo for the .45, he states " isn't this stuff (holding the box of .22) ok"? I had to fight back the laughter, I told him that they were not compatible.

[Pulsar]

I had one gun a couple weeks ago come in for warranty work, customer complaining the safety didn't work. I spent about 15 minutes trying to ocme up with every feasible scenario that owuld cause this safety to not work and finally gave up and called the customer. I asked him what it was exactly doing, and he responded "I can't turn the saftey on after I fire on an empty chamber". I then had to explain for about 5 minutes that the saftey will not work when the hammer is in the fired position, and that it really has no reason to work if the hammer is in the fired position.


Oh and the question I get all the time when I tell people I work as a gunsmith for a living. "So you know how to make my xxxxx full auto huh?"

[lawnrevenge]

Oh and the question I get all the time when I tell people I work as a gunsmith for a living. "So you know how to make my xxxxx full auto huh?"

So you know how to make my Mosin full auto, huh?

[Maddog5150]

The worst thing that I ever heard in a gunshop was:

"That will be $1,647.36, cash or charge?"

lol. Thats it? I wrote up a guy for over a $13,000 dollar sale once. He pulled out cash :p I dont see why only 1,647.36 cash or charge would be the worst thing ever heard.


Here is one for today.
"hey man, I got like DOJ rejected. I wanted to talk to you about that. Does drug felonies count?"


I love this one. A man comes in with his "ruca" and asks to see the desert eagle. He plays with it, hands it to her, and she cant work the slide or even hold it up. He says, "I'll take it."
I respond, "sure thing bud. Just need your ID, second proof of residency and your HSC card."
"oh its for her, she is doing the paper work." :rolleyes:

[CRTguns]

(in a crazy old woman voice.)

Crazy old naigbor lady named Lavina,"David- do you play Guitar?"

Me, "uh, yes, all the time."

Lavina, "I thought so- that's what's in those cases (gun cases). I can hear you play sometimes- you're good. Are you in a band?


it's funny cause I do not play guitar... I do not own a guitar- and there is never music blaring from my house. She's crazy and old and hears things- get it. Well, it's not in a gun shop, close enough.

[ghettoshecky]

"a 9mm will only piss someone off, now a .45........."

HAHAHA I know it sounds shady, but I kinda think it's funny. He instead should say "9mm will only piss someone off ASTERISK*, now a .45..." asterisk meaning crazy druggie high on PCP.

[DedEye]

I love this one. A man comes in with his "ruca" and asks to see the desert eagle. He plays with it, hands it to her, and she cant work the slide or even hold it up. He says, "I'll take it."
I respond, "sure thing bud. Just need your ID, second proof of residency and your HSC card."
"oh its for her, she is doing the paper work." :rolleyes:

Does the FFL have any leeway to deny a sale on such an obvious straw purchase?

[lawnrevenge]

Does the FFL have any leeway to deny a sale on such an obvious straw purchase?

The FFL probably has one of those nice signs that says: "We reserve the right ti deny service to anyone."

INAFFL but from what I've seen these types get thrown out on their butt. My local guy let the girl fill out the forms but then ran her and the b.f. off. He turned in all her info to the cops. I bet she won't be buying any guns for a long time.

[Fjold]

I had one gun a couple weeks ago come in for warranty work, customer complaining the safety didn't work. I spent about 15 minutes trying to ocme up with every feasible scenario that owuld cause this safety to not work and finally gave up and called the customer. I asked him what it was exactly doing, and he responded "I can't turn the saftey on after I fire on an empty chamber". I then had to explain for about 5 minutes that the saftey will not work when the hammer is in the fired position, and that it really has no reason to work if the hammer is in the fired position.


Oh and the question I get all the time when I tell people I work as a gunsmith for a living. "So you know how to make my xxxxx full auto huh?"

You need to put a sign up saying:

"Gunsmithing - $100/Hr for stupid customers"

You'd be rich!

[rivviepop]

Does the FFL have any leeway to deny a sale on such an obvious straw purchase?

absolutely, and in fact I know some FFLs who report them to the authorities as well as just kicking them out, I've been in the shop and watched it happen first hand. Just like any other business they can refuse service to any customer if they get that bad feeling and I'm glad that they do; it may not be a legal requirement but morally I support the reporting of suspicious "gangster like" activities. (my own words)

my $0.02 :)

[slick_711]

Does the FFL have any leeway to deny a sale on such an obvious straw purchase?

Letting something like that go through could cost the FFL their license, so you can be damn sure they have the leeway and the obligation to themselves to boot the "customers" out the door. I have probably one of those a month. Sometimes we just tell them to leave, sometimes we take their info and send it around to the other shops so they don't inadvertently process the sale.

[Pvt. Cowboy]

What I want to know, is who really cares? I hear that crap all the time "Is that a REGISTERED AR15?" People need to mind their own business. I understand the laws and what not, but I can imagine some people with reg'd AW's getting alittle tired of it.

When I lived in CA, almost every place that I went with my registered AWs caused commotion. If it wasn't someone gushing 'WOW-WEE!!!' at the range practically breathing down my neck with saucer-wide eyes, it was self-appointed range lawyer pointing at me and babbling to his friends about civil code sections, DOJ regulations, and criminal penalties -- usually from some young KelTec SU16CA-owning goober who probably was playing with toys on his parents' living room carpet back when I registered the gun as an AW.

Interestingly, the one place in the SF Bay Area that I never heard a peep was that East Bay range high up in the hills famous for being the weekend hangout for DOJ Master Ninja Iggy Chin and the entire Bay Area LEO scene. The range master just mentioned paperwork one single time and then never again.

[Shampoo]

"where's the head, I got to drop the kids off at the pool."

[Max-the-Silent]

Why would your fiancee be in a whorehouse?

She actually took me to a "spa" that was a whorehouse - she was looking through the phone book for a hot tub joint and made an appoinment. We got there, I knew exactly what was up (when they have a speakeasy door...)

And when the girl opened it up, I had to explain to my sweetie that this place wasn't what she thought it was.

It's one of the things that I love about her - you've got to love a gal that will take you to a whorehose.

WRT Tabors, you'll get the same action, with just about the same concern, as you'd get at a $2.00 whorehouse.

[metalhead357]

You need to put a sign up saying:

"Gunsmithing - $100/Hr for stupid customers"

You'd be rich!


nice try....but they still would ask...HOWwwww Much?????

[PIRATE14]

This is my latest favorite...........

Dude: What is the classification of these guns.......

Me: Rifles........

Dude: You're an *******......stomps off..........

Luckily.....I was eating my QPC at the time.....didn't want to disrupt my lunch.........

[Sam Hainn]

This is my latest favorite...........

Dude: What is the classification of these guns.......

Me: Rifles........

Dude: You're an *******......stomps off..........

Luckily.....I was eating my QPC at the time.....didn't want to disrupt my lunch.........

And was 'the Dude' Iggy Chin? :D

[fred40]

I took an anti gun friend to the range and shot 1 9mm round. He handed the gun back to me and said "guns are for pussies"

[Solidmch]

"Anyone that has an OLL is going to go to JAIL."

I still hear to this day.:nuts:

I heard that on Saturday. Guy got pretty loud. Did not want anyone in the shop to even say oll.

[BaronW]

Walmart once refused to sell me .22lr because it was handgun ammo. I asked for TWENTY TWO LONG RIFLE and pointed to the word RIFLE on the box.

Then the manager told me that you have to be 21 for rifle AND handgun ammo. I could still buy 12ga slugs, though!

I found out from another walmart employee on a gun forum that apparently the cash register asks "for handgun? <Y/N>" and the jackass behind the counter pressed Y without thinking, and was then told by the computer that I had to be older than 21.

Stupid cerritos walmart.

[CRTguns]

Does the FFL have any leeway to deny a sale on such an obvious straw purchase?

The ffl has the RESPONSIBILITY to deny this.

[ghettoshecky]

Walmart once refused to sell me .22lr because it was handgun ammo. I asked for TWENTY TWO LONG RIFLE and pointed to the word RIFLE on the box.

Then the manager told me that you have to be 21 for rifle AND handgun ammo. I could still buy 12ga slugs, though!

I found out from another walmart employee on a gun forum that apparently the cash register asks "for handgun? <Y/N>" and the jackass behind the counter pressed Y without thinking, and was then told by the computer that I had to be older than 21.

Stupid cerritos walmart.


YES THAT HAPPENED TO ME TOO!!!! Sometimes I just hate walmart employees... What really pissed me off was that she sold me the same damn ammo 2 weeks before, same dumb girl. She didn't believe me and I only remembered it was her because it took her 20 mins to find and sell me 5 boxes of .223

[CRTguns]

This is my latest favorite...........
....
Luckily.....I was eating my QPC at the time.....didn't want to disrupt my lunch.........

What's "QPC?"

[desertram800]

1/4 pounder with cheese...royale with cheese!:rofl2:

[N6ATF]

I took an anti gun friend to the range and shot 1 9mm round. He handed the gun back to me and said "guns are for pussies"

With friends like that, who needs enemies?

[bigthaiboy]

She didn't believe me and I only remembered it was her because it took her 20 mins to find and sell me 5 boxes of .223


Oh no, she sold you .223? What a dumbass! Doesn't she know you use .223 in a Kel-Tec SU-16 pistol or an AR pistol? :p

[BillCA]

Walmart once refused to sell me .22lr because it was handgun ammo. I asked for TWENTY TWO LONG RIFLE and pointed to the word RIFLE on the box.

I'll do you one better... Big 5 has a sale on 9mm UMC ammo. I ask for 4 boxes. Sales guy has to walk them to the front register 15 feet away. There the girl rings them up and then says "I need to see your ID." :confused: I ask why and she says "We can't sell handgun ammo to anyone under 21."

I'm over 50, with the bags under my eyes, gray hair, gray moustache and paunch to prove it. I stare her squarely in the eyes and say "Do I look under 21?"

Her response - "I have to see your ID."
Me: "Do I look under 21?"
Do Repeat Until Frustrated

After her third response, I said "G#$ dammit! What kind of air-head are you? Answer my question! Do I really look like I'm under 21 years old?"

Gun counter guy comes over and says, "It's okay Tiffany, just ring it up." and then gives me a cold look. The next thing I hear is Tiffany's inane voice saying "I can't! The register says 'verify id' and asks for the year of birth. I need his ID for that." :mad: :83:

Then the guy says what year were you born?

I grabbed the ammo, handed it back to the sales guy and said, "Long enough ago that I will not put up with this store's *&#$ politically-correct stupidity! Take your ammo and stuff it!"

Then left the store.
Oh... the Sunnyvale store for those who care.

[Ford8N]

I'll do you one better... Big 5 has a sale on 9mm UMC ammo. I ask for 4 boxes. Sales guy has to walk them to the front register 15 feet away. There the girl rings them up and then says "I need to see your ID." :confused: I ask why and she says "We can't sell handgun ammo to anyone under 21."

I'm over 50, with the bags under my eyes, gray hair, gray moustache and paunch to prove it. I stare her squarely in the eyes and say "Do I look under 21?"

Her response - "I have to see your ID."
Me: "Do I look under 21?"
Do Repeat Until Frustrated

After her third response, I said "G#$ dammit! What kind of air-head are you? Answer my question! Do I really look like I'm under 21 years old?"

Gun counter guy comes over and says, "It's okay Tiffany, just ring it up." and then gives me a cold look. The next thing I hear is Tiffany's inane voice saying "I can't! The register says 'verify id' and asks for the year of birth. I need his ID for that." :mad: :83:

Then the guy says what year were you born?

I grabbed the ammo, handed it back to the sales guy and said, "Long enough ago that I will not put up with this store's *&#$ politically-correct stupidity! Take your ammo and stuff it!"

Then left the store.
Oh... the Sunnyvale store for those who care.

Don't get mad at the mindless droids at B'5. They have to do what they do because the corporate attorney told them what the procedures are to do an ammo sale. Join the NRA and write your rulers in Sacramento, they are the cause of politically correct gun and ammo sales.

[rod]

I'm reading these stories and shaking my head. I didn't think I had anything to offer but then after reading Bill's story about the Big 5 employee, I remembered a story. I went to Big 5 to get my hunting license and upland bird stamp a couple months ago. The upland bird stamp has a picture of a dog on it and the dizzy girl at the counter asked me if that stamp was for shooting dogs. I didn't have the heart to mess with her and tell her yes because I could see tears already welling up in her eyes.

[lawnrevenge]

One time bought a pistol at Turners. On pickup day I went to the register to buy some ammo and pay the rest on my pistol that I had in the box next to me. Girl behind counter asks if I just picked up a pistol, what kind, etc. Then when I pay for it all she asks for ID to make sure I'm over 21. Now how can I buy a pistol from them and not be 21? I said this and she just insisted. Rather than be an a**hole I just complied. Some people are just too dense and me being a jerk to them does not make their brains grow.

[phish]

^ some people don't understand the following concept:

if A=B, and B=C, then A=C

[Fjold]

I'm reading these stories and shaking my head. I didn't think I had anything to offer but then after reading Bill's story about the Big 5 employee, I remembered a story. I went to Big 5 to get my hunting license and upland bird stamp a couple months ago. The upland bird stamp has a picture of a dog on it and the dizzy girl at the counter asked me if that stamp was for shooting dogs. I didn't have the heart to mess with her and tell her yes because I could see tears already welling up in her eyes.

You should have told her; "Yes, but only orphan puppies."

[metalhead357]

One time bought a pistol at Turners. On pickup day I went to the register to buy some ammo and pay the rest on my pistol that I had in the box next to me. Girl behind counter asks if I just picked up a pistol, what kind, etc. Then when I pay for it all she asks for ID to make sure I'm over 21. Now how can I buy a pistol from them and not be 21? I said this and she just insisted. Rather than be an a**hole I just complied. Some people are just too dense and me being a jerk to them does not make their brains grow.

LOL! ANy of you guys run into the bit about how Hunting Licences and Tags CANNOT be bought with a credit card? I've hit that twice in 5 years in two differnt cities:cool:

[rivviepop]

^ some people don't understand the following concept:

if A=B, and B=C, then A=C

Only in math, not in logic.

bananas = yellow
yellow = color
bananas = color

[Maddog5150]

I'll do you one better... Big 5 has a sale on 9mm UMC ammo. I ask for 4 boxes. Sales guy has to walk them to the front register 15 feet away. There the girl rings them up and then says "I need to see your ID." :confused: I ask why and she says "We can't sell handgun ammo to anyone under 21."

I'm over 50, with the bags under my eyes, gray hair, gray moustache and paunch to prove it. I stare her squarely in the eyes and say "Do I look under 21?"

Her response - "I have to see your ID."
Me: "Do I look under 21?"
Do Repeat Until Frustrated

After her third response, I said "G#$ dammit! What kind of air-head are you? Answer my question! Do I really look like I'm under 21 years old?"

Gun counter guy comes over and says, "It's okay Tiffany, just ring it up." and then gives me a cold look. The next thing I hear is Tiffany's inane voice saying "I can't! The register says 'verify id' and asks for the year of birth. I need his ID for that." :mad: :83:

Then the guy says what year were you born?

I grabbed the ammo, handed it back to the sales guy and said, "Long enough ago that I will not put up with this store's *&#$ politically-correct stupidity! Take your ammo and stuff it!"

Then left the store.
Oh... the Sunnyvale store for those who care.

Bravo. Two things could of happened.
1. showed your ID and not been stubborn and everyone would of been happy or
2. Bullied the little girl behind the counter over "its the principle" :rolleyes:
I love how fellow gun guys deal with situations like this. Its usually situations like that which marks us gun guys with stereo types

[The SoCal Gunner]

Bravo. Two things could of happened.
1. showed your ID and not been stubborn and everyone would of been happy or
2. Bullied the little girl behind the counter over "its the principle" :rolleyes:
I love how fellow gun guys deal with situations like this. Its usually situations like that which marks us gun guys with stereo types

I have to agree with this. Most people who work at Big-5 don't know anything about gun laws and might not even care about guns. They are just there to make ends meet. They follow store policy and when the register asks for ID or date of birth, that is what they'll ask for because that is how they are trained.

[BaronW]

Only in math, not in logic.

bananas = yellow
yellow = color
bananas = color

That's because you're using the equals sign wrong.
Bananas have the property "yellow."
Yellow is a member of the set "colors."

edit: Therefore, bananas have a property that is a color.

[pnkssbtz]

That's because you're using the equals sign wrong.
Bananas have the property "yellow."
Yellow is a member of the set "colors."

BaronW beat me too it.


"=" references VALUE.

Color is a property, not a value.


If: Pistol Purchase Age = 21
If: 21 = Pistol Ammo Purchase Age

Then: Pistol Purchase Age = Pistol Ammo Purchase Age

[ETD1010]

BaronW beat me too it.


"=" references VALUE.

Color is a property, not a value.


hrm... I sometimes like to aruge semantics and exceptions, so here I go.. color can have a value. Photoshop uses values for color, and most digital monitors (even analog, really) use RGB (red, green, blue) as well for all the colors....

[lawnrevenge]

If: Pistol Purchase Age = 21
If: 21 = Pistol Ammo Purchase Age

Then: Pistol Purchase Age = Pistol Ammo Purchase Age

hrm... I sometimes like to aruge semantics and exceptions, so here I go.. color can have a value. Photoshop uses values for color, and most digital monitors (even analog, really) use RGB (red, green, blue) as well for all the colors....

Great, crazy dreams of my philosophy classes mixed with my programing classes naked taking a test tonight. :mad:

[N6ATF]

I'm reading these stories and shaking my head. I didn't think I had anything to offer but then after reading Bill's story about the Big 5 employee, I remembered a story. I went to Big 5 to get my hunting license and upland bird stamp a couple months ago. The upland bird stamp has a picture of a dog on it and the dizzy girl at the counter asked me if that stamp was for shooting dogs. I didn't have the heart to mess with her and tell her yes because I could see tears already welling up in her eyes.

Coyotes!!!!

[metalhead357]

I have to agree with this. Most people who work at Big-5 don't know anything about gun laws and might not even care about guns. They are just there to make ends meet. They follow store policy and when the register asks for ID or date of birth, that is what they'll ask for because that is how they are trained.


And sometimes soldiers *just follow orders*too...doesn't make it right in either case. So while Bill's heavy handed approach may need a reproach- it begs the question; Would of showing her the id been as fruitfull as trying to educate her on the subject?: or would that too just fall under the classification of yet another stereotype of *gun personalities*? Or better yet- would if have just fallen of deaf/dumb ears? For if she truly is there just to make ends meat- it wouldn't matter WHAT anyone said to her~ regardless of it going to make her a millionaire or just more *up* on gun laws....she would have just dimissed anything ANY customer said so long as she gets her paycheck............

I'm just still ever surprised Big 5 even has a gun department....... what with all the....muckery about.

[rivviepop]

That's because you're using the equals sign wrong.
Bananas have the property "yellow."
Yellow is a member of the set "colors."


(just bull****ting at this point) how can one use an equals sign wrong in linguistics? I use the forms of the verb 'be' in place of the mathematical symbol:

if: bananas are yellow (third person plural present indicative) (or "a banana is yellow")
if: yellow is a color (third person singular present indicative)
then: bananas are a color (or "a banana is a color")

what I was saying is that while you can argue all day regarding the property vs. value of yellow and all that, we don't think that way when we speak. for some statements a=b/b=c/a=c will hold true, and for some it will not - it depends on how the statement has been formed linguistically by the speaker. mathematically this doesn't happen of course (well I bet someone could make it happen but I'm no math guy...)

[mattsb2000]

Nice thread, I read all of it.

[Maddog5150]

And sometimes soldiers *just follow orders*too...doesn't make it right in either case. So while Bill's heavy handed approach may need a reproach- it begs the question; Would of showing her the id been as fruitfull as trying to educate her on the subject?: or would that too just fall under the classification of yet another stereotype of *gun personalities*? Or better yet- would if have just fallen of deaf/dumb ears? For if she truly is there just to make ends meat- it wouldn't matter WHAT anyone said to her~ regardless of it going to make her a millionaire or just more *up* on gun laws....she would have just dimissed anything ANY customer said so long as she gets her paycheck............


Yes because you know. Soldiers following orders that arnt right and a girl needing an ID to type dates into a computer are the same :rolleyes: So why is she dumb for following corporate policies? I would she would be dumb if she didnt follow them and got fired. Oh and lets educate her! What would a half hour lecture accomplish if she was following policies and still needed info to type into the computer. :rolleyes:

[rod]

Coyotes!!!!

Good point. I didn't think of that. I don't think those are the dogs that girl was thinking of though.

[5150-417]

At ammobros when i had picked up my ar-15 a customer asked me what i was gonna hunt with it and i told him i don't hunt. Then he said, "you know what's good to hunt with that?No(me).Then he said, "Can's, yeha afri-cans, mexi-cans, and puerto ri-cans." I felt like hunting him after he said that but i'm not gonna go to jail for some stupid guy's remarks.

[ZombieKiller]

Most annoying thing I have heard:

"Wilson Combat? Why would you want one of those? What you really want is this right here (points in the case).....You don't want a Wilson Combat."

What a tool............

[BillCA]

Don't get mad at the mindless droids at B'5. They have to do what they do because the corporate attorney told them what the procedures are to do an ammo sale. Join the NRA and write your rulers in Sacramento, they are the cause of politically correct gun and ammo sales.

No. Not in this case. It bothered me because Paris Hilton would have had more common sense that the ditz at the register. The screen showed a message "Buyer must be at least 21 years old - Verify ID" and then a spot to enter the year of birth (apparently to avoid having to hire people who can add or subtract in a money-handling position). If I had the looks of a 25 year old, then I could understand asking for ID.

Bravo. Two things could of happened.
1. showed your ID and not been stubborn and everyone would of been happy or
2. Bullied the little girl behind the counter over "its the principle" :rolleyes:
I love how fellow gun guys deal with situations like this. Its usually situations like that which marks us gun guys with stereo types

And I have a low threshold of tolerance for utter stupidity. The threshold for a lack of common sense is not far behind.

Yes, it is the principle. Why do businesses hire people to run registers if they can't do simple math, make change and understand simplistic rules?

This is why we get government employees who cannot make a decision unless it is specifically allowed in their little bureaucrat's handbook.

It's not about "bullying" it's about thinking. It's about people having the cereberal capacity to actually be aware of the world around them and think at a level above that of a trained chimpanze!

My mom is 85, legally blind, can't drive and can't read anything not in 30-point font and then it's a slow process. A friend takes her grocery shopping every week and helps her out. One week, after buying groceries and a carton of cigarettes at the checkstand, she stopped on the way out to buy three packs of cigarettes for my older brother who's visiting her. The assistant manager wanted to see her ID to buy cigarettes. :confused: Nor would he relent because "our policy is to check everyone's ID." then pointed to a sign (which said you had to be 18 to buy tobacco).

Now, I understand the need to keep smokes from the hands of young teens, but c'mon... this woman is EIGHTY-FIVE years old. If the idiot is questioning her age, then HE is the one who needs a psychiatric evaluation for competency.

The best part was that her DL was expired (2005) -- she doesn't need a DL because she can't drive -- and the sphincter of an asst. manager declared "oh, I can't sell them to you without a valid ID." The friend who takes her shopping said "Then sell them to me, dammit." Mr. Gotta-enforce-the-rules-like-a-jerk then hands her three packs and rings it up without checking the friend's ID. Mom was so livid she caused a scene yelling for the manager.

Sometimes it really is the principle of the matter.

[BillCA]

Yes because you know. Soldiers following orders that arnt right and a girl needing an ID to type dates into a computer are the same :rolleyes: So why is she dumb for following corporate policies? I would she would be dumb if she didnt follow them and got fired. Oh and lets educate her! What would a half hour lecture accomplish if she was following policies and still needed info to type into the computer.


This last summer, some guy walked into a Taco Bell in California and passed the cashier (a 16 y/o girl on her 2nd day of the job) a $25 bill. She made change and he left with his food. Of course the store manager was upset that she took an obvious counterfiet bill. So upset that he fired her from her very first job for it. She claimed they had only told her how to run the register, take orders, make change and put anything $20 or larger under the cash drawer, which she did. A week after the incident, the franchise sent her a legal notice to repay $75 in losses due to her "negligence".

Okay, so in this case, she followed policy AND got fired. If the business wants air-headed automatons to follow what they are told to do, then they can't claim any "negligence" when they take a bogus $25 bill. Not unless they train cashiers on what bills are legal tender.

And, of course, there is the infamous Taco-Bell & the $2 bill story too. :rolleyes:

[Maddog5150]

No. Not in this case. It bothered me because Paris Hilton would have had more common sense that the ditz at the register. The screen showed a message "Buyer must be at least 21 years old - Verify ID" and then a spot to enter the year of birth (apparently to avoid having to hire people who can add or subtract in a money-handling position). If I had the looks of a 25 year old, then I could understand asking for ID.

Congratulations on skirting what I was saying. So you look way over 25 and yet she is stupid because she has to enter numbers in? Numbers she doesnt have because she hasnt see you ID? Let me ask you one thing. When your on your crusade over "its the principle" and trying to make twenty something cashiers cry, does your arm get sore from patting yourself on the back?

[lawnrevenge]

When your on your crusade over "its the principle" and trying to make twenty something cashiers cry, does your arm get sore from patting yourself on the back?
+1000
LOL

[Paul]

"Hi welcome to Turners"

:)

[Maddog5150]

"Man I dont pay no bills and I aint got no car for no second proof... Hey, I was just served a restraining order. Thats a gov'ment document! Can I use that?"

[Kiba]

"Well, what if I buy it for him?"

Overheard a few weeks ago at Sportsmans Warehouse in Rocklin after one individual in a party of three was turned down by the sales guy for not passing the background check. Turns out it was the 2nd time they had been in the store that week trying to pull that stunt.

As these clowns are arguing with the guy behind the counter and he is very politely trying to make them aware of the law against exactly what they are attempting, I'm trying my best to stifle my laughter when the salesman notices my squirming and almost loses his composure.

After the group of three walks off very angry and frustrated that their plot has been foiled, I walk up to the counter and say "Hello, I would like to make a straw purchase of a firearm for a convicted felon." and the salesman totally loses it. We both had a good laugh. :p

[JS-M1A]

What I want to know, is who really cares? I hear that crap all the time "Is that a REGISTERED AR15?" People need to mind their own business. I understand the laws and what not, but I can imagine some people with reg'd AW's getting alittle tired of it.
Yeah it gets old.
Then they start with a thousand questions.
What agency/department are you with?
Is that legal? You know those are illegal right?
Are you supposed to have those mags?
Is it legal for you to have all those mags ?
Do you have the registration for those?
Etc,etc,etc,ad nausem.
Die in fire @*§©l*wn !!! Mind your own business
I`m here to shoot not answer your questions.
If you want to ask me any more questions
I`ll charge you!

Last range trip I bring my regd FAL the RO
Proceeds to tell me you know that is illegal
Etc,etc, if the police come you will get arrested
Blah blah blah. I tell him look this is legal regd
I even have a copy of the paperwork. Now can
I shoot?
Sorry had to vent.

[jc_stecker]

Congratulations on skirting what I was saying. So you look way over 25 and yet she is stupid because she has to enter numbers in? Numbers she doesnt have because she hasnt see you ID? Let me ask you one thing. When your on your crusade over "its the principle" and trying to make twenty something cashiers cry, does your arm get sore from patting yourself on the back?

+1

Getting bent outta shape over giving them your birth year just adds to our image as short-tempered, redneck a**holes. I honestly can't see how yelling at a newbie cashier, to the point of her crying, demonstrates any higher level of thinking or maturity.

[metalhead357]

Congratulations on skirting what I was saying. So you look way over 25 and yet she is stupid because she has to enter numbers in? Numbers she doesnt have because she hasnt see you ID? Let me ask you one thing. When your on your crusade over "its the principle" and trying to make twenty something cashiers cry, does your arm get sore from patting yourself on the back?


Thanks- I'll stick with the principle. And BOTh arms do get tired...one for patting myself on the back and the other for patting myself on the head:pAnd then again both get tired from luggin' all the cigs & ammo to the car:p

HOW FRIGGIN HARD IS IT TO SEE either a 50 year old(in one case) or an 85 year old (in the other case) and AND SUBTRACT 21 years from the current date? Punch in 1901 for all the customer cares, for all the computer cares, or for all the employee herself would care. The "call for safety" in checking ages was NEVER for inconviencing customers..some it surely does---- But many a place says if you LOOK under 40 be prepared to show id; if you look OVER 40 then WHYYYYYYYYYYY for the love of God or money should one "Be prepared"?

And oh, Speaking of Big-chains and what not's about retarded things being said: the inverse of the above got me bent outta shape. I was standing at a counter BS'ng with one employee (employee 1) and a kid walked up to the counter-- couldne't have been more than 11 and asked to see some BINOCULARS. Next employee (employee 2) down says to the much along the lines of "Get lost...you're not old enough to be in this department". I think my eye-rolling went over with the employee #1 I was with, as the kid had stood there shocked and not moving while employee number 2 moved on down the counter. The employee I was with just motioned to the kid to come over to us--asked which pair he wanted to see & actually showed him the pair. Aint nothing like some over zealous clown to shoot down some kids dreams while he's still in the curious stage.....:cool:

[ZombieKiller]

"Hi welcome to Turners"

:)

LMAO

[stagolee]

At ammobros when i had picked up my ar-15 a customer asked me what i was gonna hunt with it and i told him i don't hunt. Then he said, "you know what's good to hunt with that?No(me).Then he said, "Can's, yeha afri-cans, mexi-cans, and puerto ri-cans." I felt like hunting him after he said that but i'm not gonna go to jail for some stupid guy's remarks.One of my best friends in life is this Mexican dude who looks white. He's 6 ft. tall and has pale skin and blue eyes...

When he visits gun stores he's constantly bombarded with paranoid fantasies about how he should prepare for "Gangstas" or "Cholos" or "Bangers" or whatever code word they are using that week when the seller thinks only white people are in the room and wants to both pander to racist sensibilities and be quasi-PC at the same time.

--

On another note, I remember seeing a Latino comedian tell that "Afri-cans, Mexi-cans..." joke on Soul Train back in the 70s. I wonder whatever happened to that comedian. He also talked about growing up in LA around Black people and going to a school named "St. Leroy":rofl2:

[metalhead357]

One of my best friends in life is this Mexican dude who looks white. He's 6 ft. tall and has pale skin and blue eyes...



Probably takes after more of the Spainish Invaders <side> of things as many forget Spain's influences on Mexico were not just language and culture...............

[stagolee]

Probably takes after more of the Spainish Invaders <side> of things as many forget Spain's influences on Mexico were not just language and culture...............Both parents were immigrants to Mexico. Mother was second-generation from Spain, father from England. But culturally, linguistically and socially he's as Mexican as a Mexican can be without the Indian blood).

Plus he's married to a Black woman, so his watchful from many different sides.

[dee-vee]

All the glocks at the 1 gun shop in my town are about $100 over retail and when I asked why the guy said "they arnt". Pretty stupid.

[grammaton76]

HOW FRIGGIN HARD IS IT TO SEE either a 50 year old(in one case) or an 85 year old (in the other case) and AND SUBTRACT 21 years from the current date? Punch in 1901 for all the customer cares, for all the computer cares, or for all the employee herself would care.

...and the employee should risk his/her job making up numbers for you because...? It probably raises a red flag if the cashier is always punching in 21 years before now.

[BaronW]

Big 5 apparently puts .38spcl Speer Lawman ammo in the ad and then doesn't send any out. The Cerritos and Buena Park stores don't even normally stock it.

[metalhead357]

...and the employee should risk his/her job making up numbers for you because...?


Because I am definitely, unrefuttably The Metalhead!:p

But seriously, what? How hard then is it to take 21 then 23, then 30 etc. What risk is involved when one of the above cases mentioned the manager told the girl to process it & she STILL couldn't figure it out. If she cant figure math--- I doubt she could figure that she'd be risking her job.....

[lawnrevenge]

I hope metalhead357 doesn't just make up stuff at his job.

Boss, "How much concrete will we need for the project?"
Metalhead357 (rather than do some math spits out a number to make the boss happy) "28 yards boss"

Next week at Big5 Lawnrevenge gets pissed at trainee Metalhead357 (too old for a decent job, to young to greet people at Walmart) who now asks to see Lawnrevenge's ID when i buying ammo. Lawnrevenge sticks to his guns for the sake of the principle, but soon backs down when he realizes that he just make a 50 year old man cry.

[BillCA]

Thanks for the support Metalhead. At least someone gets it.

For those who don't and have been apologists for the Paris Hilton crowd, like maddog5150, lawnrevenge, Jc_stecker, and gammaton_76, let me point out that there is a reallllly simple solution to this. Maybe it's too obvious to some.

The cashier doesn't need to see an ID for someone obviously over the age limit. The machine is not asking for the ID-number, just the birth year so it can figure out if the person is old enough.All they need to do is ask for their year of birth. And that would have been easy enough to do.

Not ignoring the customer's inquiry three times.
Not demanding to see ID when it wasn't necessary.
Not acting like a recording with no ability to think.

The same thing applies to the cigarette purchase. Why card an 85 year old woman for buying three packs of cigarettes? (Especially when she already has a flippin' carton of 'em in her basket!)

As far as I'm concerned, maddog5150, lawnrevenge, Jc_stecker, and gammaton_76 all win the Britney Spears Intellectual Award for being unable to think out of the box.

[grammaton76]

You're free to think whatever you wish. However, I don't know who this gammaton_76 guy is.

At any rate, make up numbers enough and it's going to set off some red flag with a bean counter whose sole purpose in life is to go, "HEY! This cashier deals with a disproportionate number of 21 year olds... bet she's selling to underage kids!"

My specific point was and remains with making up numbers, as was proposed by Metalhead. Nowhere did I say that asking for the date was out of the question, but I suppose you're too intelligent to have noticed...

[ghettoshecky]

Oh no, she sold you .223? What a dumbass! Doesn't she know you use .223 in a Kel-Tec SU-16 pistol or an AR pistol? :p

I blame the first Matrix, with .223 shells being dropped from a tec-9 :rolleyes:

[wutzu]

You're free to think whatever you wish. However, I don't know who this gammaton_76 guy is.

At any rate, make up numbers enough and it's going to set off some red flag with a bean counter whose sole purpose in life is to go, "HEY! This cashier deals with a disproportionate number of 21 year olds... bet she's selling to underage kids!"

My specific point was and remains with making up numbers, as was proposed by Metalhead. Nowhere did I say that asking for the date was out of the question, but I suppose you're too intelligent to have noticed...


How many 21-year olds do you think there are in this town? It's called STRATEGY. DUH!

[N6ATF]

All the glocks at the 1 gun shop in my town are about $100 over retail and when I asked why the guy said "they arnt". Pretty stupid.

If all the HKs were $100 below retail, that sounds like a shop I'd be running.

[Cpl. Haas]

The cashier doesn't need to see an ID for someone obviously over the age limit. The machine is not asking for the ID-number, just the birth year...

Actually, the Big 5 registers ask for DOB in MM/DD/YYYY format. One of the Sacramento stores just fired a cashier for imputing made-up customer zip codes and DOBs... which is a well-known store policy.

Not saying I agree with it... just clarifying some facts.

[metalhead357]

I hope metalhead357 doesn't just make up stuff at his job..

LOL! You aint seen the "What is your profession thread" then have you?

I'm a goobermint propagandist....of sorts.

Gimmie a LITTLE credit... I wuz poblikaccly ebmukated but I can at least add 2+2 and know they make 5:chris: 28 yards? that's like what? your whole street? Couple miles?:p

NOT standing up for your rights is PRECISELY how we ALL got here- thanks to the lackluster-crowd and the gen before us; well-intentioned but misappropriately guided malfeasence not withstanding-- If God IS in the details...then some quirk at the big 5 shop and the Big brother it works for dont need to know my DATE of birth..simply confroming to show ID to "prve" you're over 21 is MORE than enough....

Keep this line of cow-towing up and you WILL need a ballistic sample, a blood & urine test, fingerprints, a 10 day wait, and a birth certificate just to buy blessed ammo.

WHERE does it stop. With me... long ago;); When I've been asked at big 5 I tell them after flashing the DL I was born before the BIG ONE...they look confused and I say 1944 (I'm NOWHERE near there) and they punch it in like the blind little sheep they are............

[metalhead357]

I'm a goobermint propagandist....of sorts.

WHERE does it stop. With me... long ago;); When I've been asked at big 5 I tell them after flashing the DL I was born before the BIG ONE...they look confused and I say 1944 (I'm NOWHERE near there) and they punch it in like the blind little sheep they are............


But who knows...maybe I made the whole thing up, I work for the DOJ, cant add or subtract and work for Big 5 in my spare time as a disgruntled former postal employee:p

But enough peeps! Stop bowing to the man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gunsnrovers]

The asshat who looked me in the eye telling me he saw no reason a civilian should be able to buy an OLL while just behind him his partner was showing and selling S&W MP15's to some local off duty officers.

[Maddog5150]

As far as I'm concerned, maddog5150, lawnrevenge, Jc_stecker, and gammaton_76 all win the Britney Spears Intellectual Award for being unable to think out of the box.

Oh that is awesome. I applaud you sir for showing this twenty something year old that age and maturity does not go hand in hand. So we, lawnrevenge,, Jc_stecker, grammaton76 and I have britney spear intellectual awards simply because we dont agree with you?
ok.

[grammaton76]

WHERE does it stop. With me... long ago;); When I've been asked at big 5 I tell them after flashing the DL I was born before the BIG ONE...they look confused and I say 1944 (I'm NOWHERE near there) and they punch it in like the blind little sheep they are............

...either that, or they just really don't care when you were born. Back when I worked at a computer shop, store policy was that we had to ask for all customers' email addresses, and you couldn't process a sale unless an address was provided. If a customer wanted to make up "jimbob@example.com", however, that's what got entered. In my case, the store policy says you have to get an item of data from the customer. It's not your responsibility to care if it's correct.

I don't know Big5 policy, but it's entirely possible that at least some of these other folks also disagreed with the store policy and were perfectly happy to accept fake numbers, because as long as the customer said it, you're not responsible for accepting it! This is a big key item here. It is not against most store policies to be "gullible", but you can expect to be fired for just making up numbers.

[grammaton76]

How many 21-year olds do you think there are in this town? It's called STRATEGY. DUH!

Ah, but you're not taking into account conventional retail outlets (multiple registers) and population size. If there's a multi month pattern of a disproportionate number of 21yo purchases on a specific clerk's register, that clerk may expect to be looked into.

Anyone with a moderate grasp of statistics and probability should grasp this one readily.

They're been monitoring registers at some grocery stores for petty theft using statistics, for some time. A fellow Calgunner had his wife get busted for a felony charge as soon as she'd given either $5,000 or $500 (don't remember which) worth of undeserved discounts, over a multi month period. Also, remember, corporate data warehousing is big money. If you used a credit card on a DOB based sale, chances are they've cross-referenced it to your previous CC purchases on file in order to help provide raw data for market research. Big5 may or may not be that sophisticated, but you can bet Wal-Mart is, and they demanded dates too, last time I was there.

[metalhead357]

[quote=grammaton76;831180This is a big key item here. It is not against most store policies to be "gullible", but you can expect to be fired for just making up numbers.[/quote]

Now THAt we can agree on!

Dont even get me started on Fry's electonics:rolleyes:

[lawnrevenge]

As far as I'm concerned, maddog5150, lawnrevenge, Jc_stecker, and gammaton_76 all win the Britney Spears Intellectual Award for being unable to think out of the box.
Amazing how not agreeing with you puts me intellectually in the same boat as Britney Spears. OH well, I should have hoped for Paris Hilton status but I must just not be that bright. At least the Britney Spears Intellectual Award is one better than the Lindsey Lohan Intellectual Award.

BillCA,
Yelling at the checker who was following store policy just makes you look like a jerk. She learned nothing because you really taught nothing, all she will do is complain to her friends that some old guy was a jerk to her at work. Within hearing distance of her manager, Tiffany's response to your question (which seemed rhetorical since you look old enough to be her grandfather) was valid. She was stating the fact that she was required to check your ID even though obviously you look much older than 21. Because she cares about doing her job and making her pay more than bending the rules because you were throwing a Paris Hilton size ***** fit.

Further, all this B.S. about your rights is just that. You do not have any right to shop at Big 5, they are willing to do business with you. If you don't like their policies you are not obligated to shop there. In fact I hope you wouldn't.

Metalhead357,
28 yards of concrete is less than 50 feet of a 3 lane freeway.

[jc_stecker]

As far as I'm concerned, maddog5150, lawnrevenge, Jc_stecker, and gammaton_76 all win the Britney Spears Intellectual Award for being unable to think out of the box.

Yes, well thank you for awarding me something on Veterans Day. Hopefully your award comes in the form of a S&W 629 or a POF lower.

Here's some out-of-the-box thinking; there are people out there that look older than 21 but aren't. I went to boot camp with a 19 year-old Brazilian who had gray hair and a really aged face; everyone thought the guy was 40.

[ccwguy]

"Never keep a Loaded Mag" on your person; it's considered a 'Loaded weapon"


bahahahaha!

[tombinghamthegreat]

"is there any restraining orders in effect against you?"

[metalhead357]

Metalhead357,
28 yards of concrete is less than 50 feet of a 3 lane freeway.


Not if its paved 1 inch wide by 3mm deep it aint:p

You missed my jest:cool: but that's ok & I dont think you int the britany crowd (although she DOES have something going for her most of us didn't/dont or we toooooooo would all me millionaires:rolleyes:) as I am often slated with a rather bizzare & perverse sense of the macbre mixed with Benny Hill and south park...all while still not knowing how to type/spell on the 'net making look the bigger idiot than I already know I am.....

But hey, Aint my war alone to fight; we all got down on several groups (and even Zumbo) for caving to the other side. If mediocraty and inconvience at every establishment under the guise of protecting children (which IS stoopid as I used to buy .22 lr when I was SEVEN on the way home from school) then have at it...just DONT be surprised when you have peeps like Bill and I rightously upset over yet one more layer and one more step of creeping incrementalism down that slippery slope.

I personally avoid Big 5 at EVERY opportunity...problem is..who else here in Cali has got $79 moisins????????????

[bruceflinch]

Well I only read the first 7 pages of this thread, with much amusement & disgust.
But the most annoying thing I ever heard in a gun shop...

Anything coming out of Zach's mouth @ Canyon Sports in Martinez....

[slowfire]

"We're really busy and its time for my break."

[lawnrevenge]

I got the joke metalhead357, the problem is that I do engineering for a job and so things like that I enjoy doing. I agree that we should avoid places with policies and services that compare to Big5. I just don't think we should blame the minimum wage cashiers for the corporation's policies.

[gwl]

Here's one I had directed towards me.

I took a polygraph exam for a local law enforcement agency a few days ago. One of the questions that came up was the number and type of firearms I have registered to me. The two categories listed were handguns and illegal assault weapons.

The handguns were not an issue but when it came to the question on illegal assault weapons (I own a Springfield M1A Standard) she said I was lying. She told me an M1A is an illegal weapon meant for killing and since I told her I did not have any illegal assault weapons registered to me, I lied to her.

I later told my background investigator about this and he just rolled his eyes in disbelief. Apparently this individual strongly believes all long gun type weapons are meant for killing. Well, what the hell are hadguns designed for then? :confused:

[rivviepop]

"We're really busy and its time for my break."

I can forgive this one almost always, some folks are on their feet all day for virtually no pay of consequence (minimum wage in SF? yeah right) and I will always just go do something else/come back or wait and window shop or something. They deal with enough **** customers all day, you gotta try and give 'em some slack and be the nice guy.

(of course it's person to person, some people abuse it but you know what I'm saying...)

[JMB1911]

How's this for ridiculous..."Why the hell would you like to get a 1911?? That old thing can't shoot worth a damn and you're gonna have problems with it." to quote a Turner's gun salesman. Needless to say I took my business elsewhere.

[robitrocks]

Apparently this individual strongly believes all long gun type weapons are meant for killing. Well, what the hell are hadguns designed for then? :confused:
Shooting perps in the leg!
:rofl2:
No? But that's what they do on CSI.

[savasyn]

I was at Turners today and overheard a sales person and a couple of customers discussing felonious activities regarding AWs and hi cap mags. Seems mighty risky for folks to be talking that way in a gun store, anyone could be listening.

[N6ATF]

Shooting perps in the leg!
:rofl2:
No? But that's what they do on CSI.

Or on 24 as a form of torture. Oops, I mean interrogation technique.

[grammaton76]

I personally avoid Big 5 at EVERY opportunity...problem is..who else here in Cali has got $79 moisins????????????

Not sure... I would personally rather buy 3 Mosins for $150 from Century directly. C&R licenses are a good thing... :)

[metalhead357]

Edit out

[Parag]

"is there any restraining orders in effect against you?"

"I didn't know that was required!"

-- Parag

[fal_762x51]

"A CZ52 is illegal here, it's not on the cert-list."

Then I was a smart-arse and brought one in 10 days later to ask how much was the going price for a CZ-52. I got kicked out for having an illegal pistol. That was funny.

[thedrickel]

"You can shoot it here. $18/hr for a rifle lane. Oh you wanna do a PPT? Hell no those things are illegal!! How many targets do you want?"

[slick_711]

"We're really busy and its time for my break."

While I can understand why you would dislike hearing that, you're either not a very understanding person or you haven't spent much time in gun shops if thats the most annoying thing you've heard in a gunshop.

I'm one of those guys that works in a gun shop, and we are busy, and I don't get breaks. Whether I'm working 6 hours on an idle Tuesday or 11 hours on a Saturday when we're slammed all day, I get one 30minute break for lunch, and I sit down for exactly zero minutes other than during said break. Mind you I'm not whining, I like my job.

Now, I can't remember having ever said that to anyone, but you still could be a little more understanding of little gun shop boys. Some of us have no better way to pay our way through school and feed our shooting habits, so bear with us when we wanna go eat. Even if it means you have to wait 2 minutes before you can get out on the range or look at that "Deagle."

[wutzu]

All the times i hear about the eeeevil FN Five-seveN, and how it should be illegal because it's designed to kill cops. First, anyone who thinks you're going to get AR-15 penetration out of a blowback pistol is smoking crack. Second, the AP ammo is already illegal in the US.

That and a gun store employee telling me that ARs were illegal in California because of "The ATF", when I'd owned my OLLs for over a year already.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

A-friggin' men to that...my only prob is I ALREADY believe there's too much goobermint intrusion into lives: I aint inviting them in to look at d' books; got nuttin' to hide but plenty to protect........

When they want an inventory check they notify you ahead of time; you can bring your stuff to their office if you want.

[PanzerAce]

The most annoying thing I have heard was when I was told a shop wasn't hiring, then 2 weeks later they have a bunch of old guys that don't know **** about modern rifles and don't help customers, and pay them more than I would have asked for


I'm not bitter, or anything ;)

[metalhead357]

Edit out......

[Rob454]

And sometimes soldiers *just follow orders*too...doesn't make it right .

Dude youre comparing a girl at a sales counter with a soldier? You dont see anything wrong with that anology? Personally I give her a big thumbs up. SHE IS DOING HER JOB. Say what you will but I personally would prefer to have a employee who is doing his/her job correctly than one who doesnt care and is there simply to collect a paycheck. Ridicule her all you want but she probably doesnt make a whole hell of a lot of $$ but she still has a job and doesnt sit there on unemployment and food stamps sucking off the tit of society. If you ever had employees working for you you should know that its hard to find good help. yeah youre older so what. She needed your info for whatever reason and you got all huffy with her. You could of easily difused the whole situation by simply showing her your ID and pay and go. For all you know she had to visually look at your ID to verify your age. You can get carded if you look like youre under 35 for alcohol. And I bet most of you show your ID without any questions when you want your beer or JD. Next time you shoudl be a little more considerate towards others. Personally i would of told you to leave if I was that manager
Rob




the worse I ever heard

Walked in the store with a buddy . He started talking to the counter guy.
then he tells the guy
" I want a gun so I can shoot a cop in the mother fing face"
I just about s**t my pants. I can tell you that EVERYONE in the store stopped. it was like one of those movies where the picture freezes up. EVERYONE S head towards us. I could of fing died right there from embarassement.
I was SPEECHLESS. Needless to say I apologised for his behavior. If i could of turned invisible i would of. every time I wnet there the guys there remembered my friend. Needless to say we're no longer friends considering my bro in law and two of my step brothers are LEOs. I simply chalked it up to the guy being a complete idiot. too bad he is married to my sister I simply do not talk to him nor do my Bro in law or my step brothers. We havent told my sister because I dont want to start a war

[TurboFall]

I'd have to agree with Rob454 and the others here. It's silly for anyone to card someone well over the age restriction, but I don't blame the girl; I'd have done the same.

Look at it from her perspective: If she carded every customer, at worst, she'll get into a verbal scuffle over a silly store policy. One angry customer. If she didn't, and the manager just so happens to be a *****, she could lose her job for doing something "illegal". Carding was the obvious choice.

Demanding a number just to put in the register is just silly though :D

[metalhead357]

[edit out

[metalhead357]

Demanding a number just to put in the register is just silly though :D


And THAT is the crux of it....not any of the rest of it.........

[Maddog5150]

LOL!
I wish customers would write to corporate on how inept I am for doing my job. Upper management might actually start liking me then if someone let them know I was doing things right.
Respect can go many ways. There is your respect on how i perceive it. By you being appreciative on people only having the same viewpoint as you and letting you get your way (again this is how I perceive it but oh noes its a different opinion so its wrong :rolleyes: ) There is respect I give to people who stand their ground, do their job and not falter by some old guy yelling at them.
I remember when I was a little kid, my dad wouldnt let me throw a temper tantrum. If i did, boy would I get it. I saw other kids who got their way by throwing themselves on the ground and got their way every time. I appreciate the way that my father raised me because I am a man and was taught at an early age not to pull crap like that.

[metalhead357]

So back ON topic now......

Another great (awful) one I overheard was a counter clerk trying to tell a woman looking to buy a 9mm pistol "Oh no, its got LOTS of recoil...you'd do MUCH better with a .32 or .25":eek:

[Maddog5150]

I agree. Back on topic before this gets locked.
I heard this today as this guy was hitting on my book keeper and was telling her she should get a .22 instead of a 40cal for a defense gun. One of my salesman told the guy that a .22 in the chest may not stop someone fast enough if they are attacking. He said, "you sure? I could shoot you in the leg wit a 22 and it would come out your arm? that **** would just bounce around inside you"

[Grouch]

metalhead really gayed up this thread.

:rolleyes:

The girl was doing her job.

If she did not do her job she could be fired. Sorry I would not risk being fired just because some jackass retard didn't want to be carded.

To her (and she is the only person in this equation that matters), her job is worthmore than some old *******'s temper tantram about being carded. Why is that hard to understand?

[metalhead357]

Edit out as it probably wasnnt too nice to grouch............
And now back to threading:cool:

[Grouch]

Cause apparenty *Retards* like you DONT READ THE FRIGGIN THREAD:p. No ONE was Old, The CARD was not the issue............ and there was no tantrum...and I was NOT the particpant.

Do you guys even seriously read whats been posted before posting?


* only used as it was used


And now back to threading:cool:

Take some of your own meds pal. I said you gayed up the thread. Sorry you have, you're opinon sucks, its childish and ignorant and shows just how truley immature and selfcentered you are.

I suppose you didn't pay close enough attention to understand that i was refering to BillCA's immature actions.

Now go try that again.

[metalhead357]

Take some of your own meds pal. I said you gayed up the thread. Sorry you have, you're opinon sucks, its childish and ignorant and shows just how truley immature and selfcentered you are.

I suppose you didn't pay close enough attention to understand that i was refering to BillCA's immature actions.

Now go try that again.

edited...........


Sorry to the rest of ya'......................

[DedEye]

Mods, instead of locking the thread, can you please just delete the pissing match going on so we can continue what has until now been a very fun and funny thread?

[metalhead357]

Mods, instead of locking the thread, can you please just delete the pissing match going on so we can continue what has until now been a very fun and funny thread?

I'll freely go back and edit out everything related to the pissing contest AND the rest if that what the mods want...and save them the trouble. Seems expressing a disenting opinion is getting rather controversial in itself these days.....................

[Grouch]

Relax jack. Aint fun being called a tard now is it? Whether Bill or me, it was a retard comment that was uncalled for, so while Bill aint old either, he is a friend...and maybe you should do a little thing called CHANGING the subject...when, oh, I dunno the SUBJECT changes; First ya' say I gayed up the thread when I'm responding to what other have said and then proceed to make this a pissing contest..... So have it jack. Your name ceraintly seems to fit:cool: Hit Ignore if you dont like my posts and I politely and calmly do the same.


Sorry to the rest of ya'......................

Like you I call a spade a spade. Don't be angry because the truth hurts bub.

[metalhead357]

Like you I call a spade a spade. Don't be angry because the truth hurts bub.


Have at it grouch... you got yer way...I'll edit out the non relevant stuff, Suggest you do the same then we each hit ignore..........

Angry? No. Upset? no. I'm not the one who made this personal, but I will respect the rules here to the best of my ability, and clean up my own ...threads since some are arguably off topic........

[Grouch]

Have at it grouch... you got yer way...I'll edit out the non relevant stuff, Suggest you do the same then we each hit ignore..........

Angry? No. Upset? no. I'm not the one who made this personal, but I will respect the rules here to the best of my ability, and clean up my own ...threads since some are arguably off topic........

Do whatever you want pal.
We've seen you and BillCA for what you are.

I'll freely admit that I'm a jerk to many people who lack common courtesy and respect or think they should have some special entitlement.

But Im not a jerk to girls just doing their jobs.

[metalhead357]

Do whatever you want pal.
We've seen you and BillCA for what you are.

I'll freely admit that I'm a jerk to many people who lack common courtesy and respect or think they should have some special entitlement.

But Im not a jerk to girls just doing their jobs.

No probs here...you go your way and I mine. Sorry you feel that way about Bill, he is actually a nice guy. I'll forgo the common courtesy bit as nowhere was I or Bill talking entitlement...........

See ya'................

[N6ATF]

Walked in the store with a buddy . He started talking to the counter guy.
then he tells the guy
" I want a gun so I can shoot a cop in the mother fing face"
I just about s**t my pants. I can tell you that EVERYONE in the store stopped. it was like one of those movies where the picture freezes up. EVERYONE S head towards us. I could of fing died right there from embarassement.
I was SPEECHLESS. Needless to say I apologised for his behavior. If i could of turned invisible i would of. every time I wnet there the guys there remembered my friend. Needless to say we're no longer friends considering my bro in law and two of my step brothers are LEOs. I simply chalked it up to the guy being a complete idiot. too bad he is married to my sister I simply do not talk to him nor do my Bro in law or my step brothers. We havent told my sister because I dont want to start a war

Man, I hope my future bro-in-law never says something like that. Me and him might actually go shooting some day since he claims to have guns.

[superhondaz50]

Had a "gangsta" come in to my store who wanted to take a look at a Bushmaster sealed magwell gun (Toploading carbine), I handed it to him, after a few minutes, he handed it back and asked me how much the store charged to open the magwell, add a drum, and convert it to full auto,I said "you cant do that without commiting a felony", he said I was full of s*it cause his homie had one that way in LA :rolleyes:

[QuarterBoreGunner]

MMmmmm I've heard most of these, but I think the best of the worst was the guy looking at a Taurus PT99 (Beretta 92 clone) and while holding the cocked pistol in the obligatory gansta style (above eye level and sideways) proceeds to flip the de-cocker and drop the hammer (just like it's supposed to) and then proclaims in a loud sure voice how much he likes "the second trigger on the side".

I actually froze up for a moment, trying to process the amount of ignorance I had just digested.

After that I explained what the de-cocker was *really* for.

He seemed disappointed.

[TurboFall]

Okay okay, back on topic.

I'm still pretty new to shooting myself, but by far the worst I've seen was a customer (he and his nephews (I'm guessing) dressed "gangsta" of course) trying to get a mutual discount on rentals and ammo for the marijuana he claimed to have in his car.

I felt kinda sorry for the worker too, since he looked like a new employee. I certainly wouldn't know how to respond to something like that.

He's lucky the LEO's walked in 5 minutes or so later :rolleyes:

[rivviepop]

I'm still pretty new to shooting myself, but by far the worst I've seen was a customer (he and his nephews (I'm guessing) dressed "gangsta" of course) trying to get a mutual discount on rentals and ammo for the marijuana he claimed to have in his car.
[...]
He's lucky the LEO's walked in 5 minutes or so later :rolleyes:

The curiosity in me wonders if that statement made by said uncle would be enough for the probable cause statute (rule? law?) to search his vehicle which in theory would lead to an arrest if he was telling the truth (regardless of your personal views on marijuana legalization). Or if the fact he offered an illegal good in trade for an illegal activity would be grounds for arrest by the LEO that walked in. hmmm...

[The SoCal Gunner]

MMmmmm I've heard most of these, but I think the best of the worst was the guy looking at a Taurus PT99 (Beretta 92 clone) and while holding the cocked pistol in the obligatory gansta style (above eye level and sideways) proceeds to flip the de-cocker and drop the hammer (just like it's supposed to) and then proclaims in a loud sure voice how much he likes "the second trigger on the side".

I actually froze up for a moment, trying to process the amount of ignorance I had just digested.

After that I explained what the de-cocker was *really* for.

He seemed disappointed.

You mean to tell that isn't a second trigger on my USP? Damn it!!

That is hilarious.

[QuarterBoreGunner]

I just remembered two others that are sorta the same:

Customer looking through a display scope: "How far can I see with this?"
Me: "Uhm... well can you see the sun through it? That's pretty far..."

Customer looking at gadget lasers for pistols: "How far does this go?"
Me: "Well... it's a beam of light. So.... a real long ways."

[N6ATF]

You mean to tell that isn't a second trigger on my USP? Damn it!!

That is hilarious.

Haha.

I would have had to punch myself in the crotch to keep from laughing so hard at that gangsta that he would be able to run off with the piece.

[FortCourageArmory]

Man, I must have a store in Leave-It-To-Beaver-ville. The gangsta thugs just don't come in. And if they did and said or did any of the stupid "gangsta" stuff I've read here, they would be kicked out on their collective *****es. Keep up the stories guys. I need the laughs!!!

[lawnrevenge]

Man, I must have a store in Leave-It-To-Beaver-ville. The gangsta thugs just don't come in. And if they did and said or did any of the stupid "gangsta" stuff I've read here, they would be kicked out on their collective *****es.

That sounds like my local mom n pop store. They don't deal with stupid or illegal (they also take it too far with OLL, etc. but I won't go there atm). If anything smells like a straw purchase or a crooked person they are informed that they won't be buying any guns there ever. The owner often has they straw buyer folks fill out a dros just to get their info and pass it along.

[Max-the-Silent]

Recently overheard:

Guy behind the counter tells customer looking to buy his first handgun that between the .40 and the .357 SIG, he should go for the .357 because it will "go through body armor."

There used to be an excellent gunstore in San Mateo Ca. named Ellingsons.

Had one salesman that was beyond being an A-hole.

1970's - I and a friend were in the store buying ammo, and my friend pointed to the G series FAL they had on display, and remarked that it looked just like mine. Salesman informed my friend and I that I did not have any such weapon, because it was a machine gun. I asked if it was a G series, and he answered in the affirmative. I told him that I had two, a standard wood stocked rifle and a lightweight w/ a folding stock.

This guy proceeded to (miss) inform my friend and I about every aspect G series FAL's and FAL's in general - in the most condescending way imaginable.

We made our purchases and left.

I returned to the shop w/ my FAL's. Mr. Know-it-all. refused to look at the rifles - and I eventually had even a better last laugh.

I purchased the G that they had on display after they went out of business.

Wayne Armanino bought it from the Ellingsons family and sold it to me right before R-R went into effect.

[Timberwolf]

Man, I must have a store in Leave-It-To-Beaver-ville. The gangsta thugs just don't come in. And if they did and said or did any of the stupid "gangsta" stuff I've read here, they would be kicked out on their collective *****es. Keep up the stories guys. I need the laughs!!!

LOL - you're in Simi - homies don't go there

[Rob454]

Man, I hope my future bro-in-law never says something like that. Me and him might actually go shooting some day since he claims to have guns.


Yeah I seriously did not know what to say. I was momentarily stunned. sort of like I was outside my own body. This was a few years ago. To this day when we get together for family stuff I still give him dirty looks and I grunt out a hey hows it going ( translated to F**K you a** hole) and thats about it. he has not been invited to any shooting trips or hunting or fishing trips
Rob

[FortCourageArmory]

LOL - you're in Simi - homies don't go there
Nope.....last census had Simi Valley at 87% Caucasian, 9% African-American, 3% Hispanic, and 1% "Other". Leave-It-To-Beaver-vill, USA.... :)

[metalhead357]

There used to be an excellent gunstore in San Mateo Ca. named Ellingsons.

Had one salesman that was beyond being an A-hole.



On that place used to be the bomb! LOVED that big bear and wondered who eneded up with it. I never ran into flakes there from behind the counters...but the wild A** stories the customers would tell about thier hunts would give me and my buddy weeks of laughable material!

[JagerTroop]

Just stopped by my local TURDers to dros my new sig. There were (of course) a couple of gangstas in there with one's 'hina'(an obvious straw). They were looking at pistols and acting very hinky. The salesman asked what the gun would be used for, then inquired "for the academy?". They both chuckled and one said,"nah, fo blastin', fo killin'". I could see look on the clerk's face (this sale is going nowhere). However, the clerk then proceeded to show the guys a few high dollar Beretta shotguns, or 'shotties' as they were referred to.

I am so sick of hearing; "yo, that one is dope", or "check that one out, you could blaaaaaast fools"

[Max-the-Silent]

On that place used to be the bomb! LOVED that big bear and wondered who eneded up with it. I never ran into flakes there from behind the counters...but the wild A** stories the customers would tell about thier hunts would give me and my buddy weeks of laughable material!

As a kid in the late fifties early sixties Ellingsons was my personal version of a candy shop. I used to look at each of the display rifles on the walls and try to I.D. each one by ignition system, etc.

Over the years before they shut down (terrible story there) I probably bought something like 50 rifles and handguns from them - I used to hit the used rifle section just about every payday.

The troublesome salesman was a piece of work - short guy, stocky, glasses. The only guy I ever ran across that came close to him in the A-hole stakes was the guy with the earring at F. Bob Chow's shop.

[The SoCal Gunner]

Just stopped by my local TURDers to dros my new sig. There were (of course) a couple of gangstas in there with one's 'hina'(an obvious straw). They were looking at pistols and acting very hinky. The salesman asked what the gun would be used for, then inquired "for the academy?". They both chuckled and one said,"nah, fo blastin', fo killin'". I could see look on the clerk's face (this sale is going nowhere). However, the clerk then proceeded to show the guys a few high dollar Beretta shotguns, or 'shotties' as they were referred to.

I am so sick of hearing; "yo, that one is dope", or "check that one out, you could blaaaaaast fools"

Is this Fountain Valley or Orange? I've been there in the morning and evening and haven't seen any of that kind there.

[Bongos]

how about, is a bullet from an AR15 more deadly or lethal than my 30-06 hunting rifle ;)

[JagerTroop]

Is this Fountain Valley or Orange? I've been there in the morning and evening and haven't seen any of that kind there.

Orange. Fountain Valley seems to be gangsta free, for the most part. The worst, by far, is Norwalk. Also the old Stanton location.

[Stormfeather]

Probally the craziest thing I ever heard was in Elk Grove at the Gun Room, some "homie" came in dressed & tatted gangsta style. He was looking at handguns and straight out said. . .
"So if I pulled out a gun and tried to rob you guys, would you shoot me?"
I was carrying at the time and discretely stepped off to his blind side a few paces, and waited to see what would develop. One of the girls behind the counter smiled and said "of course we would, then we would watch it on video and laugh". . . . I had a hard time keeping the smile off of my face when that happened! He was escorted from the premises. I did notice that his Monte Carlo actually had bullet holes in the side of it!

[RossRinSD]

Why would your fiancee be in a whorehouse?

Who cares! I'd marry that girl so fast....

[RossRinSD]

Thanks- I'll stick with the principle. And BOTh arms do get tired...one for patting myself on the back and the other for patting myself on the head

I love customers like you. When I worked retail, I got paid hourly. If you got pissed off and never came back, my job would just be easier next week.

And as dumb as you think I am, my boss was dumber!!! And yes, fudging a number would get you FIRED.

And, cop an attitude with me, please. I know all the muther luvin games to play in that position. My co-workers would be laughing so hard at the rings I made you jump through to buy that lousy $7.00 box of ammo... Hold on, let me get the manager for you.... I'm the manager, what can I help you with? Is this pistol ammo? Can I see your ID, please? I'd run through that same mindless drivel AGAIN. WTH, I'm paid hourly!!! And now, I actually enjoy my job. Go ahead, call corporate. My name tag says Rod Johnson. Because when I filled out the form so the manager could order nametags, thatz what I put. And, thatz what he ordered.

I have the best dumbass blank hourly employee zombie stare with a half smile/smirk when you think you can beat me at the mind game you've ever seen.

Thank-you come again.

[Maddog5150]

Here is one from a year or so ago.
"C'mon man. Give me fifty bucks off each pistol. Im buying three of them! Not like these other chumps."
He was trying to put three hi-points on lay-a-way and wanted fifty bucks off the sale price. The "chump" near him was buying an HK USP and starting his DROS :rolleyes:

[N6ATF]

Probally the craziest thing I ever heard was in Elk Grove at the Gun Room, some "homie" came in dressed & tatted gangsta style. He was looking at handguns and straight out said. . .
"So if I pulled out a gun and tried to rob you guys, would you shoot me?"
I was carrying at the time and discretely stepped off to his blind side a few paces, and waited to see what would develop. One of the girls behind the counter smiled and said "of course we would, then we would watch it on video and laugh". . . . I had a hard time keeping the smile off of my face when that happened! He was escorted from the premises. I did notice that his Monte Carlo actually had bullet holes in the side of it!

Ha!

Not just those bullet hole stickers? If you're dumb enough to say that, you're dumb enough to put those stickers on your ride.

[CalNRA]

one time I was buying some buck-shot in big 5(you know where this is going).

this guys starts lecturing me on why no one should have double-0 buck becuase he supposedly shot someone in self-defense and the only reason he got off the charges was because he just came from hunting deers.

So I asked him to add two boxes of Federal .45 Hollow points to the 4 boxes of buckshot I was buying.

He didn't look to happy.

[dadoody]

I was talking to one of my friends @ gunshop counter a few years back about how I was firing model rockets in the air @ a park in Palos Verdes and that the cops came but when they saw it was just a bunch of squirrelly asian guys with glasses (me and my friends), the cops turned around and left.

One of the other customers (a white guy) overheard me and was insulted about how I was referring to asian people.

Weird?

[CalNRA]

did you drop the C-bomb or the G-bomb?

[RRALAR15]

Probally the craziest thing I ever heard was in Elk Grove at the Gun Room, some "homie" came in dressed & tatted gangsta style. He was looking at handguns and straight out said. . .
"So if I pulled out a gun and tried to rob you guys, would you shoot me?"
I was carrying at the time and discretely stepped off to his blind side a few paces, and waited to see what would develop. One of the girls behind the counter smiled and said "of course we would, then we would watch it on video and laugh". . . . I had a hard time keeping the smile off of my face when that happened! He was escorted from the premises. I did notice that his Monte Carlo actually had bullet holes in the side of it!

you were carrying in the gun room and didn't get kicked out?

[metalhead357]

I love customers like you.

And as dumb as you think I am, my boss was dumber!!! And yes, fudging a number would get you FIRED.

Go ahead, call corporate. My name tag says Rod Johnson. Because when I filled out the form so the manager could order nametags, thatz what I put. And, thatz what he ordered.

I have the best dumbass blank hourly employee zombie stare with a half smile/smirk when you think you can beat me at the mind game you've ever seen.

Thank-you come again.

:confused: And you left out the smilie I put there in my quote indicating a joke WHY? It was a joke...but I guess that point was lost on you:confused:

Its funny that the hired help is always "smarter than the boss" as the
And as dumb as you think I am, my boss was dumber!!! And yes, fudging a number would get you FIRED.


vs. the My name tag says Rod Johnson. Because when I filled out the form so the manager could order nametags, thatz what I put. And, thatz what he ordered.

Makes it sound ohhhhhh so great that you have no problems lying yet fully recognize that it could get you fired.......so he never looked at the form and mailed it off for your name tag to get made. But hey- if making up a "cute" name works for ya'...go with it.

thank You for proving why I'll stick with principle:p

So can we get back the funny statements now:confused:

[RossRinSD]

:confused:So can we get back the funny statements now:confused:

I accidentally left out my smilies, too. :o But when you work with the public it eventually just dumbs you down. There are so many experts out there.

[DedEye]

One of the more annoying things I heard recently:
I was told by the clerks that if a gun wasn't on the approved list it was illegal to buy and register, even if it was a PPT :rolleyes:.

[Maddog5150]

When I first started working at a gun shop this old man was looking for a rifle. I was trying to help him find the right rifle for him so I asked what he would be using it for, plinking, hunting, precision shooting and so forth. He pulled the "can" line on me. I kind of chuckled at the "Mexi-can" part. (even though im not a Mexican national I am half hispanic.) His wife looked terrified and suddenly was trying to drop hints to her half blind husband. I just smiled through my teeth and nodded at the stupidity, took his money gladly and waved them off wishing a good day.

One time someone called me racist because I denied a straw sale. It was another "Deagle" sale like I told about earlier. After he accused me of being racist (I guess it just comes to mind for these people to pull the race card when they dont get their way) he quickly back peddled when he realized what I was and changed "your not selling to us because we are mexican!" to "Your just racist against ex cons!"

[QuarterBoreGunner]

One time someone called me racist because I denied a straw sale.
I got that one pulled on me for the same sort of deal; except this was a black guy with a white girlfriend. Guy is checking out a Tec-9 (this is back in the mid-90's) asking all the questions. And then gives his girl the nod and she says she wants to buy it, while he starts counting out cash from a wad he pulled out of his pocket.

Yeah, no. Sorry.

Bam. I'm a racist.
Hell, I used to tell people, "I'm no racist: I only see three colors: polished blue, stainless steel and money green."

They made a huge stink until some window shopping Santa Clara LEO came in.
They got real quiet after that and quickly left. Ah, the fun of arming the public!

[Maddog5150]

Some times there are good people who get denied wrongfully as a straw purchase. One time this clean cut hispanic guy in his early twenties comes in with this older lady. As I first walked up to them he instantly put his hands up in defense and said, "Im helping my mom with a gun for her protection. I am going to pay for it and I am helping her look."
I kind of chuckled because of my assumption . I started talking to him as his mother was looking over a revolver and he said he got kicked out of two other stores because of clerks claiming it was a straw purchase. All along he was helping his mom find a defense gun. She eventually chose the gun SHE wanted. He didnt have the dirt bag aura and his mom took the test, paid for the gun and they left happy.

[lawnrevenge]

"Im helping my mom with a gun for her protection. I am going to pay for it and I am helping her look."

Some day I'd love to be in that guy's shoes.

[BONECUTTER]

Some times there are good people who get denied wrongfully as a straw purchase.

That almost happened to me. My mom was looking for a p99 in OD in .40

When I found one at a local store I told her and took her in the next day. Looking back it looked really suspisous cause I walked in with her, walked right over to the counter and pointed and said there it is. She looked at the clerk and said Ill take this one.

The clerk said he gets people in here all the time trying to buy 9's for friends. When my mom replied "oh, i was looking for a .40 ....why would I want a pu**y nine milimeter" (she had just watched dawn of the dead). The clerk realized it was for her and that she was pointing at the .40

:)

[rivviepop]

Some day I'd love to be in that guy's shoes.

No kidding. GO MOM! An armed Mom is a safe Mom.

[lawnrevenge]

Using a tank of gas taking your mom gun shopping - $40
Paying for the gun she wants - $800
Buying her ears, eyes, and a nice holster $200
Case of ammo for her to shoot $200
Year membership to the indoor range $300
Hearing your mom say "oh, i was looking for a .40 ....why would I want a pu**y nine milimeter" - Priceless

[CaliGunOwner]

I had a customer the other day ask me for "the shiniest gun made" and another who asked me "which one uses the biggest bullet?" :rolleyes:

[Maddog5150]

What cracks me up all the time is I hear, "9millos are weak. now a 38. thats a real mans gun." :rolleyes:

[rivviepop]

I had a customer the other day ask me for "the shiniest gun made" and another who asked me "which one uses the biggest bullet?" :rolleyes:

didja show 'em the howitzer in the back warehouse and ask for their credit card? :)

[rorschach]

Orange. Fountain Valley seems to be gangsta free, for the most part. The worst, by far, is Norwalk. Also the old Stanton location.


Besides their fine Signal Hill location...

[Gator Monroe]

Rimfires must be 922r Compliant !:eek:

[BobbyQuickdraw]

The most annoying thing I've heard in a gun shop was the "click click click click" of some short and wide woman dry firing a revolver while pointing it around the store in random directions.

[N6ATF]

Using a tank of gas taking your mom gun shopping - $40
Paying for the gun she wants - $800
Buying her ears, eyes, and a nice holster $200
Case of ammo for her to shoot $200
Year membership to the indoor range $300
Hearing your mom say "oh, i was looking for a .40 ....why would I want a pu**y nine milimeter" - Priceless

Priceless.

[The SoCal Gunner]

Some times there are good people who get denied wrongfully as a straw purchase.

Sort of happened to my gf and I but she didn't get denied. Did seem suspicious now that I think about it. My gf decided to surprise me with a gun for my 22nd bday. She decided on the Glock 36 because that was the gun I have been looking at and talking about lately. She went to the store, took the HSC, and bought the gun. She even let the guys know she was buying it for me for my bday but said would transfer it to me legally. The store had no issues with that and let her begin DROS with a down payment of a hundred or so dollars. Well, my gf is bad at secrets so she decides to break it to me the day or two before and shows me the receipt. On pickup day she asks me to go with her and when she is about to pay the balance, I say "hey why don't I put it on my CC so you can get some cashback." Clerk was uncomfortable with that so gf ended up putting it on her CC.

I bet the guy believed then that it was a straw purchase.

[bigthaiboy]

That almost happened to me. My mom was looking for a p99 in OD in .40

When I found one at a local store I told her and took her in the next day. Looking back it looked really suspisous cause I walked in with her, walked right over to the counter and pointed and said there it is. She looked at the clerk and said Ill take this one.

The clerk said he gets people in here all the time trying to buy 9's for friends. When my mom replied "oh, i was looking for a .40 ....why would I want a pu**y nine milimeter" (she had just watched dawn of the dead). The clerk realized it was for her and that she was pointing at the .40

:)

I like your mom, already :D