10-05-2007, 12:00 AM
I have two Glocks bought in about 1988 or so. They're 2nd Gen model 17 and 19 Glocks (no finger grooves, no rail, texturized grips, old style Tupperware box) and although I got the recall notice from Glock back in the early '90s, I never sent them in for the recall upgrades. I can dimly remember something about replacing seven key parts.
I've searched the web on information for what the recall was all about, but alI can come up with is information on a recent recall for Glock .40 cals. Nothing seems to turn up for the original recall on early Glocks. You'd think that Glocktalk would have the scoop on what the recall was, but if it's there, I couldn't find it. Maybe my search-Fu is not strong.
So, if any of you Glock experts can help me out, let me ask the following:
1. What does the recall consist of?
2. How long ought it take to get the fixes from Glock installed and my guns back to me.
3. Do they offer refinishing the slide as a service?
4. Can I get a new style receiver to replace my 2nd Gen receiver? I only want to do this on my 17, not my 19.
I will get the fixes if they're worth it, but I don't want my Glock 19 out of my hands for months because it's my carry gun.
10-05-2007, 12:10 AM
Best thing to get the best info would be to call glock. I happen to be a big glock fanatic, and I spend way to much time on glocktalk. I recently sent my 1st gen 1988 g-17 back to the company for a complete rebuild and refinish. While I could have easily rebuilt the gun myself for about 20$, I called glock and they upgraded every component except for the slide, frame, and barrel for no charge, and even gave me a new set of sights. While it was there, I also had glock refinish my slide (original 1988 finish had alot of holster wear) for 45$ i think it was. They also offered to rebuild any original mags for free (I sent 4 in) and turnaround time was about 3.5-4 weeks. If you want a new frame, I believe its something like 145$ for a new frame, but if glock inspects it and gives it the ok, I wouldnt worry about replacing the frame.
10-05-2007, 12:22 AM
Hey thanks! Wow, they rebuild old mags? I have a bunch of new drop-frees for my 19, but would they rebuild my old non-drop free mags or just send me new ones? My old mags have had problems with rounds getting bunched up in the mag body and FTFing on me. I know that magazines are like a toothbrush and that they just become unserviceable over time, so new mags from Glock would be welcome.
I think I would pay $145 for a new rail receiver for my 17, but maybe I just oughtta sell that one. That 17 does need a slide refinish too.
10-05-2007, 3:15 AM
I found this on Glocktalk. Hope it helps.
Glock Pistol Upgrades
Glock Model 19, 9mm Luger caliber, requires an upgrade for the following serial numbers:
AN, BP, BR, BV, BW, BX, DL, DM, DN, DP, DR, DS, DT, DV, DW, DX, DY, DZ
These pistols may have the potential of the action to malfunction as follows:
1. The slide locking back on a full magazine.
2. Failure to lock into battery because the barrel lug drags on the slide lock.
3. The magazine follower tips or sticks in the magazine tube.
1992, 6 part Upgrade
GLOCK, INC. Technical Bulletin #920403
April 1, 1992
Glock, Inc. announces a production change of the firing pin safety system. This new firing pin safety system has been installed in all production Glock pistols since November, 1991. A voluntary upgrade is being offered to maintain the Glock tradition of ensuring that all of our pistoils are up to the latest standards in 21st century Goock technology.
Most importantly, the components of the new firing pin safety system are not interchangable with the components of the old systam and Glock will always strive towards maintaining this feature of interchangability while working to ensure future interchangability.
The upgraded firing pin safety system consists of: the firing pin, firing pin safety, the extractor, the spring loaded bearing and the trigger bar. The upgraded system is applicable only to Glock pistols with the following serial number ranges :
Glock 17 - alpha prefix AA - WF
Glock 21 - alpha prefixes through XL
Glock 19 - alpha prefixes through WJ Glock 22 - alpha prefixes through YA
Glock 20 - alpha prefixes thorugh WW Glock 23 - alpha prefixes through SK
The upgraded firing pin safety has a new surface finish making it nearly 100% saltwater corrosion resistant. Also, after rigorous and extensive testing, the new system proves to be more durable and has a longer useful life. Here, as alwyas, Glock is working toward maintianing its standard of perfection.
1993, G19 Upgrade
Glock Model 19, 9mm Luger caliber, requires an upgrade for all pistols.
These pistols have the potential for an UNINTENTIONAL DISCHARGE of a cartridge with the action open.
The Glock model 19 pistol slide has a bottom protrusion, whose function is to push cartridges from the top of the magazine into the chamber. When the pistol is jammed in a double feed situation, the slide protrusion can come in contact with the primer of the jammed cartridge and cause UNINTENTIONAL DISCHARGE while the action is open.
2000, G26/27 Recoil spring upgrade
Glock Model 26, 9mm caliber, serial numbers DGU, DHR DKU.
Glock Model 27, .40S&W caliber, serial numbers DGD, DGV, DHS, DHT, DKV, DKW, DKX.
Mr. Don Bulver, warranty department of Glock, Inc., indicated the recoil springs produced before September 1999 may shear off on some of these pistols due to over hardness of the support tube.
Replacement springs will be distinguished by a vertical mark from the center on the front polymer portion of outer ring of the guide rod assembly, which will appear to be a mold line.
2002 Frame Upgrade – Rear slide rail
The GLOCK Corporation has identified a problem with a very small percentage of GLOCK pistols produced between September of 2001 and May of 2002. The specific problem that has been identified is the potential of breaking a rear frame rail in pistols manufactured during this time period. Within the specific range the breakage rate has been less than 0.0188%. So, while the actual percentage of rails reported broken is within any accepted manufacturing tolerance, it is not an acceptable situation to the GLOCK Corporation. It is also important to note that under most conditions GLOCK pistols will continue to function with three rails. A routine maintenance check after each time the pistol has been taken out and used would immediately indicate if there is a problem.
We are, therefore, concerned that a limited number of customers will not get the product we have promised them and what we have always delivered, the very best pistol on the market, in short, a GLOCK.
For these reasons, we have made the decision that in the interest of customer service, replacement frames will be offered to anyone who has a firearm in this range and decides to take advantage of this offer. The replacement frames will have identical serial numbers to our customer's original firearm except the numeral 1 will be added as a prefix. If you believe your firearm is within this range, please call 1-866-225-4098 to take advantage of the ultimate in customer service.
Nothing less than the best for our customers is acceptable to GLOCK and, as always, we will continue to work towards Perfection.
It appears that only serial numbers starting with "E", "GSSF", or "USA" (American Hero’s Commemoratives) are affected. In general, the chronological serial number set that has the prefix letters of "EKA" through "EVR" inclusive appear to be the affected Glocks, regardless of caliber. Three letters precede three numbers on a plate forward of the trigger guard on the underside of the polymer frame. However, some aberrations to this generalization have been reported by GTers. Reports are that the affected Glocks were manufactured from September 2001 to May 2002. So if you bought (or won a GSSF Glock) an "E" or "USA" series Glock in September of 2001 up until the present day, you might have an affected Glock. Unfortunately, Glock has not published a list. Hope this helps, but again, if you are responsible enough to own a gun and can read this, you are smart enough to check for yourself by calling Glock.
August 8, 2005 - The Glock G36 issue
Glock prides itself in the quality of its pistol and the quality of its manufacturing process. Despite our high standards, however, it has recently come to our attention through our quality testing efforts that a limited number of Glock Model 36 pistols may have an abnormality that could possibly interfere with the operation of the Glock trigger safety. The affected pistols require a simple but necessary modification to ensure the trigger safety operates as intended. IT IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE SAFE OPERATION OF YOUR GLOCK 36 THAT THIS MODIFICATION BE MADE AT GLOCK'S U.S. HEADQUARTERS IN SMYRNA, GA.
If you possess a Glock Model 36 with a serial number in the ranges below PLEASE IMMEDIATELY UNLOAD THE FIREARM AND CLEAR THE CHAMBER. Deliver the pistol to :
1. A UPS Hub (not a store)
2. The place of business where you purchased the firearm of a dealer in your area with a daily UPS pick up.
***Always have the package boxed and labeled with the preprinted return label attached***
If you have any problems with this UPS shipping procedure, please contact Costumer Service toll free at 1-800-701-1558.
Glock will quickly perform the modification and return your pistol to you at no cost. The serial number of your Glock 36 can be found on the silver serial number plate located on the underside of the frame towards the front of the pistol.
The affected serial number ranges are:
... If you have any questions or concerns please call Glock, Inc. Customer Service toll free at: 1-866-538-3517
10-05-2007, 5:11 AM
If you are asking about the April 1992 Technical Bulletin, the best information I have found is here:
Glock Six Part Upgrade (http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/upgrade-faq.html)
Not sure what the factory's current position is on performing the upgrades (worth a call), but from what I understand Glockmeister will do it expedited:
10-05-2007, 8:50 AM
Yes they will rebuild you old non- drop free mags for no charge. My G-17 was part of the six part upgrade, but they went past that and literally replaced every peice. Ecept slide, frame and barrel. I dont really know of any company that has such good customer service or such a good waranty...other than glock of course.
10-05-2007, 9:17 AM
Glocks don't need no stinkin' recall.
In the 3 times I've been to the range and all the movies I've watched, I've never seen a Glock malfunction or blow up even with reloads triple charged with rifle powder and with 9 oversized bullets lodged in the barrel while underwater.
I would chalk this one up to internet myth that was created by HK-loving mall ninja / keyboard commandos.
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