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mmesa005
02-20-2013, 12:00 PM
Looking to purchase some ammo on line and Cabella's states that residents of California and several other states need to check local laws before purchasing.

Where are these posted if they exist?

Thanks!

Gutz
02-20-2013, 12:05 PM
Certain Counties, like LA county, prohibit online sales of ammunuition. San Francisco too.


There are others, so that is basically what the seller is asking you to verify.

mmesa005
02-20-2013, 12:07 PM
Certain Counties, like LA county, prohibit online sales of ammunuition. San Francisco too.


There are others, so that is basically what the seller is asking you to verify.

Gutz,

Is there is web site / list that states what other counties may have restrictions? I am in El Dorado County.

Thanks for the quick response!

guns4funca
02-20-2013, 12:09 PM
here is the info. you need but always call them. companys can change at any time.

WARNING: Ammunition cannot be shipped to Marin, Napa, Ventura and Yolo counties, CA; Los Angeles, Oakland, Sacramento and San Francisco, CA; HI; Chicago, IL; New York City; D.C.; MA; Canada or Puerto Rico. Ammunition cannot be shipped Parcel Post. If shipping to IA, must be 21. Please check your State, County and City laws for restrictions before ordering Ammunition.

nastyhabts26
02-20-2013, 12:18 PM
La County is not restricted.
City of LA is restricted

mmesa005
02-20-2013, 12:44 PM
guns4funca / nastyhabts26

Thanks!

FourT6and2
02-20-2013, 2:38 PM
Crap. Didn't know ammo couldn't be shipped to San Francisco. How am I supposed to get ammo? Nobody in the bay area has ammo in stock...

From reading other threads, there are NO laws preventing ammo being shipped to San Francisco, at least. It's all internal policy at the retailers. But people are reporting Cabellas, Gander Mountain, Midway, Brownelles, etc. are shipping here no problem...

BCA142
02-20-2013, 4:39 PM
Crap. Didn't know ammo couldn't be shipped to San Francisco. How am I supposed to get ammo? Nobody in the bay area has ammo in stock...

From reading other threads, there are NO laws preventing ammo being shipped to San Francisco, at least. It's all internal policy at the retailers. But people are reporting Cabellas, Gander Mountain, Midway, Brownelles, etc. are shipping here no problem...

Ship it to a friends address in another city.

canopis
02-20-2013, 4:49 PM
La County is not restricted.
City of LA is restricted
Los Angeles has restrictions on the sale of ammunition by vendors within city limits. It is unclear what the legal effect of this is on online vendors outside the city. I know that some vendors will ship into Los Angeles city.

FourT6and2
02-20-2013, 5:01 PM
Ship it to a friends address in another city.

And then what? Have them ship it to me or drive hours and hours to pick it up? Midway won't ship to California. Period. I called and asked and that's what they told me, at least. Cabelas doesn't stock the ammo I need. Maybe Brownells. I'll call 'em tomorrow. None of the other smaller online retailers will ship here either. I may be able to have a friend buy ammo for me in his city (Philly or maybe down in Florida, then ship it to me direct here in SF).

I don't have any friends who live outside the bay area. I just moved to California. Unfortunately.

None of the Walmarts in the Bay Area sell ammo either. I called one and asked if they sell ammo and the lady freaked out on me over the phone and hung up on me. I think there's a Walmart a few hours from here that sells ammo. But not sure. And there's only one gun shop in the city. And they don't have any ammo. It's kind of a weird situation.

krushem2000
02-20-2013, 5:06 PM
some places restrict handgun ammo but not rifle ammo so its wise to check county laws before ordering.. ie yolo county no handgun ammo or knives etc but rifle ammo can be shipped there... so check beforehand saves headaches later

joe_gman
02-20-2013, 5:17 PM
here is the info. you need but always call them. companys can change at any time.

WARNING: Ammunition cannot be shipped to Marin, Napa, Ventura and Yolo counties, CA; Los Angeles, Oakland, Sacramento and San Francisco, CA; HI; Chicago, IL; New York City; D.C.; MA; Canada or Puerto Rico. Ammunition cannot be shipped Parcel Post. If shipping to IA, must be 21. Please check your State, County and City laws for restrictions before ordering Ammunition.

Ventura county has no restrictions on ammunition sales.

FourT6and2
02-20-2013, 10:04 PM
Ventura county has no restrictions on ammunition sales.

From what I can tell, neither does San Francisco. But some retailers won't ship regardless...

PAKALO
02-20-2013, 11:07 PM
Crap. Didn't know ammo couldn't be shipped to San Francisco. How am I supposed to get ammo? Nobody in the bay area has ammo in stock...

From reading other threads, there are NO laws preventing ammo being shipped to San Francisco, at least. It's all internal policy at the retailers. But people are reporting Cabellas, Gander Mountain, Midway, Brownelles, etc. are shipping here no problem...

have it shipped to a friend that lives in san mateo county...

shotdowninflames
02-21-2013, 10:15 PM
I've only found a couple online dealers that will ship to Oakland. Most won't.

If the online dealers even have what you want in stock right now, they should have a list of places they WON'T ship to somewhere on their site. Usually, LA, SF, Oakland, sometimes Richmond and sometimes the counties those cities are in.

Some dealers want the billing address to match the shipping address, and ammo has to be, or is supposed to be, or usually needs to be signed for. El Dorado county shouldn't be that bad, right? Freedom starts East of I-5.

Just saw this on The Gun Wire.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics/SF-Takes-Up-New-Stricter-Gun-Control-Measure-192399151.html

Bmfdez
02-21-2013, 10:24 PM
None of the Walmarts in the Bay Area sell ammo either. I called one and asked if they sell ammo and the lady freaked out on me over the phone and hung up on me. I think there's a Walmart a few hours from here that sells ammo. But not sure. And there's only one gun shop in the city. And they don't have any ammo. It's kind of a weird situation.

Walmart in Mountain View and Milpitas sells ammo (if you're lucky enough to catch them in stock).. Mountain view is about 25 mins away and Milpitas about 35-40 mins

union thug
02-21-2013, 10:25 PM
UT is a San Francisco native and remembers when officer James Guelff was outgunned by a psychopath intent on killing a cop who had run out of ammo in a shootout in 1994. San Francisco needs more ammo, not less.

FourT6and2
02-22-2013, 11:57 AM
bulkammo.com will ship to San Francisco. I have an order on the way as we speak. They also seem to have a lot of stuff in stock. Hint hint.

They don't carry WWB .45, though. Had to get Federal/American Eagle instead.

A-J
02-22-2013, 12:42 PM
Certain Counties, like LA county, prohibit online sales of ammunuition.

Incorrect.

La County is not restricted.
City of LA is restricted

Still incorrect.

Seriously, why do people keep spouting this BS? The LA City "rule" applies to business in LA ONLY. It has zero force or restriction on a business that is somewhere else!


OP - I don't know that there is any database, but if a vendor only says "check your local laws" then you're good. OTOH, if you go to SGAmmo or Sportsman's Guide they very clearly say where they won't ship to.

FourT6and2
02-22-2013, 1:03 PM
Incorrect.



Still incorrect.

Seriously, why do people keep spouting this BS? The LA City "rule" applies to business in LA ONLY. It has zero force or restriction on a business that is somewhere else!


OP - I don't know that there is any database, but if a vendor only says "check your local laws" then you're good. OTOH, if you go to SGAmmo or Sportsman's Guide they very clearly say where they won't ship to.

Yep. No state nor local laws that I can tell of prohibit the online purchase of ammo, nor do they prohibit the shipment of ammo.

But before you buy, make sure the retailer is WILLING to ship to you. I called Cabela's and asked if they'd ship to my zip code. They said no. I asked why. They said California/Bay Area law prohibits it. I told them (politely) that there are no such laws in existence. They hung up on me.

bill_k_lopez
02-22-2013, 1:50 PM
bulkammo.com will ship to San Francisco. I have an order on the way as we speak. They also seem to have a lot of stuff in stock. Hint hint.

They don't carry WWB .45, though. Had to get Federal/American Eagle instead.

Yeah... 1000 rounds of 9mm for $690, 1000 rounds of .223 for $919. I bet they have a lot in stock. HINT HINT...

bill_k_lopez
02-22-2013, 1:53 PM
Yep. No state nor local laws that I can tell of prohibit the online purchase of ammo, nor do they prohibit the shipment of ammo.

But before you buy, make sure the retailer is WILLING to ship to you. I called Cabela's and asked if they'd ship to my zip code. They said no. I asked why. They said California/Bay Area law prohibits it. I told them (politely) that there are no such laws in existence. They hung up on me.

Thats funny, 'cause I just purchased 4 cases of 12gauge from them, and I'm looking at it sitting in front of me..and I used to purchase a lot of Ammo from Midway and Cabela's last year (before when it was plentiful) never had an issue.

xNuj
02-22-2013, 2:53 PM
Yeah... 1000 rounds of 9mm for $690, 1000 rounds of .223 for $919. I bet they have a lot in stock. HINT HINT...

only hollow point... lol... i think gunbroker has better prices HINT HINT :sleeping:

FourT6and2
02-22-2013, 4:16 PM
Yeah... 1000 rounds of 9mm for $690, 1000 rounds of .223 for $919. I bet they have a lot in stock. HINT HINT...

I can't speak for other calibers. But I think the price I paid for .45 230gr. FMJ was $28 per 50 rounds (got 1,000 rounds). Expensive? I don't know. Moved to California recently from Michigan. And in Detroit WWB is about the same price at Walmart.

But the important thing is I haven't been able to find ammo anywhere in the Bay Area. So I'm happy.

FourT6and2
02-22-2013, 4:20 PM
Thats funny, 'cause I just purchased 4 cases of 12gauge from them, and I'm looking at it sitting in front of me..and I used to purchase a lot of Ammo from Midway and Cabela's last year (before when it was plentiful) never had an issue.

Weird. Like I said, the person I spoke with told me they wouldn't ship here. Then hung up. Midway won't ship here either.

delta9
02-24-2013, 4:58 PM
Certain Counties, like LA county, prohibit online sales of ammunuition. San Francisco too.


There are others, so that is basically what the seller is asking you to verify.

Currently there are no laws restricting shippping ammunition to San Francisco

guns4funca
02-24-2013, 5:25 PM
guns4funca / nastyhabts26

Thanks!

Welcome!

guns4funca
02-24-2013, 5:29 PM
Most will not ship to what i posted always call them and make sure. Those are the laws. Thanks

dropbox
02-25-2013, 2:41 AM
Walmart in Mountain View and Milpitas sells ammo (if you're lucky enough to catch them in stock).. Mountain view is about 25 mins away and Milpitas about 35-40 mins
You may want to check at a Big 5, a sporting goods chain in the Bay Area, if there's one near you. All of their locations that I've been to in the East Bay have a firearms counter. Whether they have anything in stock has been a different question, but it's worth finding out what day they receive shipments - I was there on the right day a few weeks back and they had some Winchester "Target" .223 and a few 10 round AR-15 mags fresh off the truck.

A-J
02-25-2013, 7:06 AM
Most will not ship to what i posted always call them and make sure. Those are the laws. Thanks

Do not confuse a retailer's internal policy with actual laws. Do not spread disinformation please. If you have sources that you can cite, I will gladly stand corrected.

Yep. No state nor local laws that I can tell of prohibit the online purchase of ammo, nor do they prohibit the shipment of ammo.

But before you buy, make sure the retailer is WILLING to ship to you. I called Cabela's and asked if they'd ship to my zip code. They said no. I asked why. They said California/Bay Area law prohibits it. I told them (politely) that there are no such laws in existence. They hung up on me.

Yep - there are some retailers who just do not get it. And they don't want to hear it either. SGAmmo is one, sportsman's guide is another, and freedom munitions is a third. I can accept if it's store policy, but don't prevaricate and tell me (the person who lives in that area) what the laws are. I know I know them better than any out stater. :oji:

Of course, every time this question comes up, there's always a group of folk maintaining that "it's the law" but not providing source citation.

delta9
02-25-2013, 7:53 AM
But before you buy, make sure the retailer is WILLING to ship to you. I called Cabela's and asked if they'd ship to my zip code. They said no. I asked why. They said California/Bay Area law prohibits it. I told them (politely) that there are no such laws in existence. They hung up on me.

That's weird - I live in San Francisco have had Cabela's ship ammo to my house without problem.

FourT6and2
02-25-2013, 10:43 PM
That's weird - I live in San Francisco have had Cabela's ship ammo to my house without problem.

Weird. What about Midway?

delta9
02-26-2013, 6:53 AM
Weird. What about Midway?

I've never ordered ammo but have had other items shipped from Midway

FourT6and2
02-26-2013, 5:45 PM
I've never ordered ammo but have had other items shipped from Midway

Yeah, they'll ship other stuff. Like cleaners, accessories, etc. But they won't ship ammo for some reason.

CenterX
02-26-2013, 5:50 PM
here is the info. you need but always call them. companys can change at any time.

WARNING: Ammunition cannot be shipped to Marin, Napa, Ventura and Yolo counties, CA; Los Angeles, Oakland, Sacramento and San Francisco, CA; HI; Chicago, IL; New York City; D.C.; MA; Canada or Puerto Rico. Ammunition cannot be shipped Parcel Post. If shipping to IA, must be 21. Please check your State, County and City laws for restrictions before ordering Ammunition.

Total Crap - I looked into Napa and there is no restriction - but there is a shared zip code with Solano/Yolo county and that sparks the fear.
Look around for another source and tell the dirt-bags that all your business goes elsewhere.

FourT6and2
02-27-2013, 6:51 PM
1,000 rounds just arrived here in SF from BulkAmmo! It's really hard to carry 50 lbs. of ammo up and down these freakin' hills. Picked it up at my local UPS store. Glad I brought a backpack!

CalvinH
02-27-2013, 8:09 PM
Yeah, they'll ship other stuff. Like cleaners, accessories, etc. But they won't ship ammo for some reason.

Don't know this to be true. I ordered ammo from Midway in December and January and both orders shipped to me (east bay) without issue or delay.

Moto
02-27-2013, 8:20 PM
Incorrect.



Still incorrect.

Seriously, why do people keep spouting this BS? The LA City "rule" applies to business in LA ONLY. It has zero force or restriction on a business that is somewhere else!


OP - I don't know that there is any database, but if a vendor only says "check your local laws" then you're good. OTOH, if you go to SGAmmo or Sportsman's Guide they very clearly say where they won't ship to.


Thank you for correcting all the misinformation.

The only other times one gets this much disinformation is when talking to police.

CalvinH
02-27-2013, 8:27 PM
Yeah, they'll ship other stuff. Like cleaners, accessories, etc. But they won't ship ammo for some reason.

Don't know this to be true. I ordered ammo from Midway in December and January and both orders shipped to me (east bay) without issue or delay.

weekend_plinker
02-27-2013, 8:28 PM
Crap. Didn't know ammo couldn't be shipped to San Francisco. How am I supposed to get ammo? Nobody in the bay area has ammo in stock...

From reading other threads, there are NO laws preventing ammo being shipped to San Francisco, at least. It's all internal policy at the retailers. But people are reporting Cabellas, Gander Mountain, Midway, Brownelles, etc. are shipping here no problem...

talk to a ups store just out side the the limits. some for a small fee will accept packages for you.

FourT6and2
02-27-2013, 11:06 PM
Don't know this to be true. I ordered ammo from Midway in December and January and both orders shipped to me (east bay) without issue or delay.

WTF is up with some retailers? Some people, like you, are saying they ordered ammo no problem. But when I try to order ammo I'm told they won't ship here.

talk to a ups store just out side the the limits. some for a small fee will accept packages for you.

I ordred from Bulk Ammo. They had no issue shipping to me. Got my ammo today.

A-J
02-28-2013, 12:46 PM
Thank you for correcting all the misinformation.

The only other times one gets this much disinformation is when talking to police.

I suspect the misunderstanding stems from the ban (for all of CA) that got passed a couple years ago. Even though a permanent injunction was ordered, the law is still on the books. The CGF Wiki has a section on this. But I could be wrong, which is why I always ask folks to provide source citation to support the claims. Noone has done so yet.

guns4funca
02-28-2013, 12:58 PM
Do not confuse a retailer's internal policy with actual laws. Do not spread disinformation please. If you have sources that you can cite, I will gladly stand corrected.



Yep - there are some retailers who just do not get it. And they don't want to hear it either. SGAmmo is one, sportsman's guide is another, and freedom munitions is a third. I can accept if it's store policy, but don't prevaricate and tell me (the person who lives in that area) what the laws are. I know I know them better than any out stater. :oji:

Of course, every time this question comes up, there's always a group of folk maintaining that "it's the law" but not providing source citation.

Lots of retailers wont you are right. Some companys will ship to those countys. Most will not. That is why i posted up above always call before you order. And know a days its most companys will not ship to CA. at all. Thanks for ready everthing i posted lol.

ElDub1950
02-28-2013, 12:59 PM
Just place your order. During the process, after entering your Zip, it'll refuse your order and tell you they can't ship to you or it'll accept your order.

If they accept your order, you're gtg. If they reject it, no harm, no foul.

pengie24
03-06-2013, 8:20 PM
Had no problems getting a nice amount of 12 gauge ammo last week from Midway and I'm in Sacramento County. I've also ordered ammo from Sportsmen Guide and Cheaper then Dirt with zero problems, but haven't recently since both have nothing in stock that I can use.

M1NM
03-06-2013, 9:56 PM
Certain Counties, like LA county, prohibit online sales of ammunuition. San Francisco too.

Pretty sure it's LA City not the county that has the ban - I've seen ads for a postal box company in a south bay city that offers to receive your ammo.

Kurus214
03-06-2013, 10:19 PM
ammoman, sgamo, ammuntiontogo, Herters from Cabelas, try them out I've had no problems. Just set up a small po box at a shipping store so someone can sign for it.

FourT6and2
03-07-2013, 10:31 AM
ammoman, sgamo, ammuntiontogo, Herters from Cabelas, try them out I've had no problems. Just set up a small po box at a shipping store so someone can sign for it.

Here's something to think about:

I had 1,000 rounds shipped to my local UPS Store so I could have someone sign while I was at work. The ammo was Federal. And it came in a box that had "FEDERAL AMMUNITION" in huge letters across all sides of the box. The guy at the store joked that, "I really shouldn't have signed for this because I'm a felon." He was joking. But it struck me as odd that they'd ship ammo in a box labeled "ammo" for all to see. It's just asking for trouble. Especially in a city that is trying to pass a ban on the possession of hollow point ammunition as well as requiring people to report ammo purchases to the police department...

gregorymoto
03-22-2013, 2:17 PM
They say you cant ship to SF but.... I have ordered and received ammo form online stores and people through both UPS and USPS.
I think it is up to the store more or less.

kraycat
05-03-2013, 8:14 AM
Just had Able Ammo turn me down, said "state law" does not allow it.
Really NO point in arguing with them or anyone else that doesn't "want" to ship to San Francisco. :cool2:

HuDuVuDu
06-19-2013, 9:01 PM
I just had a delivery from Cabelas (250 rounds of 12g) yesterday to Napa. Did not even ask me to sign for it.

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Jpzum
06-26-2013, 12:17 AM
Midway and natchezss shipped ammo to me in Santa Clara county. No problem. UPS just left it on the porch, no need to sign, nothing. THe packages had the ORM-D sticker and another sticker that said "small-arms cartridges" ups didn't even knock on the door. I was home and could have signed.