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Bobula
09-30-2007, 11:43 PM
this would make a mini 30 an AW right?

http://www.gunclips.net/rumi30must.html

Pistol grip and removable mag.

69Mach1
09-30-2007, 11:45 PM
Yep, an assault weapon by features (SB23). Might even put it under 30 inches, which equals assault weapon also.

FortCourageArmory
09-30-2007, 11:45 PM
Yes. Adding a pistol grip to a semi-auotmatic, centerfire rifle with a detachable magazine would turn it into an unregistered assault weapon. 1st class felony too. Just say no.

Bobula
09-30-2007, 11:46 PM
dang, they look so cool.

Josh3239
10-01-2007, 12:11 AM
You can own a bullpup in rimfire though. They make a muzzlelite for the 10/22 but I hear from everyone that its crap. They also make the Walther G22.

dfletcher
10-01-2007, 12:58 AM
The pistol grip & probably under 30" make it an AW by feature. The only other problem is that they are an overpriced piece of garbage. Fragile plastic and easily scratched, broken.

sloguy
10-01-2007, 1:11 AM
you could pin the magazine. i invented a way to pin mini14 magazines, and was thinking about patenting the device, but patents are expensive and im not convinced that enough people would buy em to even pay for the patent costs.

anyway, if the trigger assembly is the same on the mini30, i could show you how to pin it.

blkA4alb
10-01-2007, 1:17 AM
Even if the mag was pinned it would still have to meet 30" which I'm 99% sure it doesn't.

sloguy
10-02-2007, 2:24 AM
Even if the mag was pinned it would still have to meet 30" which I'm 99% sure it doesn't.

30 inches? i thought over all length has to be 10 inches over barrel length. 26 for rifles and 28 for shotguns. have i been mistaken?

Fjold
10-02-2007, 6:58 AM
30 inches? i thought over all length has to be 10 inches over barrel length. 26 for rifles and 28 for shotguns. have i been mistaken?


The Federal requirements are 26" overall length for both rifles and shotguns with a 16" barrel for rifles and an 18" barrel for shotguns.

This is California and AW's are defined as being less than 30"

12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall
also mean any of the following:
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to
accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.
(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine
with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length
of less than 30 inches.

Sniper3142
10-02-2007, 9:43 AM
dang, they look so cool.

They may look cool, but they suck for actual use.

I put one on a Mini-14 several years ago (Reg. AW). The stock feels like crap (cheap & thin plastic) and the trigger is next to useless. The sights are even worse.

:(

Even if you could legally do it (registered AW) I'd just get a folding or collaspable stock instead.

rod
10-02-2007, 9:51 AM
Just get a KRINKER PLINKER!!!:D

mcubed4130
10-02-2007, 2:21 PM
One would think... you could simply permanently attach a long muzzle device, to get to the required 30" length.

One would also think, a mag lock of various types, could be added.

At which point SB23 is taken care of.

Although I seem to recall something about, triggers being actuated by rods... anyone recall this piece of the CA puzzle?
http://www.starshiptroopers.net/img354.gif
http://www.starshiptroopers.net/Weapons.html#Morita%20Rifle

-M3

mcubed4130
10-03-2007, 11:17 AM
Nevermind... no problems with actuator rods... when you are done, it's still 1 trigger pull, 1 bullet... so no problems here, I was confusing myself with the "trigger actuators" vs. "multiburst trigger actuators".

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12020.php
(23) As used in this section, a "multiburst trigger activator" means one of the following devices:
(A) A device designed or redesigned to be attached to a semiautomatic firearm which allows the firearm to discharge two or more shots in a burst by activating the device.
(B) A manual or power-driven trigger activating device constructed and designed so that when attached to a semiautomatic firearm it increases the rate of fire of that firearm.

-M3