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Anthonysmanifesto
09-21-2007, 06:46 PM
City melts guns and makes rebar for their new city hall (http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_6953683)

Charliegone
09-21-2007, 07:04 PM
You know what Calabasa means in Spanish? It means Pumpkin..in other words they have no brains inside. Only some crappy seeds.:)

M. Sage
09-21-2007, 07:22 PM
Recycled? Wouldn't it turn out a bit sub-standard? Every time you heat steel, it loses carbon. I'd imagine that rebar is practically iron now...

SemiAutoSam
09-21-2007, 07:27 PM
You had to mention pumpkins didn't you. Now I have to tell the story of the Calabasas pumpkin festival back in 1971.

Ok well maybe I will spare you all that tale but I will educate you about about the festival.

YES It was a blast.


http://www.calabasaspumpkinfestival.com/


You know what Calabasas means in Spanish? It means Pumpkin..in other words they have no brains inside. Only some crappy seeds.:)

carsonwales
09-21-2007, 07:58 PM
Recycled? Wouldn't it turn out a bit sub-standard? Every time you heat steel, it loses carbon. I'd imagine that rebar is practically iron now...

Whatever crap they produce out of melting guns will be inconsequential from an engineering perspective.

The structural engineer will not substitute any rebar in the project for the crap that would be produced.

No doubt, it will be dropped in some over excavated section and will not be included in the design specs provided by the structural engineer.

Meaningless and stupid...Nonetheless, the leftist gun grabbers will proclaim at some later date that 'this building' was made from melted guns.

It would be more appropriate symbolically if they actually didn't melt them down...and threw them into the concrete pours as whole arms...like the Borg....the arms of the people would be assimilated into the collective....

"We will fold your swords into our own, and control you with them...kneel before the all mighty state"

We need another Tea Party...

compulsivegunbuyer
09-21-2007, 09:58 PM
:iagree:

This is stupid. Rebar and guns are made of different steel. Rebar has to be very ductle so it can withstand the movement of earthquakes. Gun steel is harder, and would be prone to cracking. They were probably made into ingots and dumped into a footing. If anything, this was a waste of energy, and thereby produced excess polution. The guns had to be driven to a foundry, melted, and driven back. This was stupid and unessasary.

Charliegone
09-22-2007, 12:09 AM
You had to mention pumpkins didn't you. Now I have to tell the story of the Calabasas pumpkin festival back in 1971.

Ok well maybe I will spare you all that tale but I will educate you about about the festival.

YES It was a blast.


http://www.calabasaspumpkinfestival.com/

You know...I've never tasted the pumpkin soup, my guess it's bad, but I love pumpkin pie. They are good for something.:D

VeryCoolCat
09-22-2007, 12:23 AM
NOOOOOoooooo......

Those poor... poor guns.... :(

Charliegone
09-22-2007, 12:08 PM
How much you wanna bet that they'll blame the guns when that rebar breaks and brings down that building?

blackberg
09-22-2007, 12:37 PM
Wow, China has raised the price of scrap metal so high that they are melting guns for rebar?:20:

jmgray
09-22-2007, 04:27 PM
Whatever crap they produce out of melting guns will be inconsequential from an engineering perspective.

The structural engineer will not substitute any rebar in the project for the crap that would be produced.

No doubt, it will be dropped in some over excavated section and will not be included in the design specs provided by the structural engineer.

Meaningless and stupid...Nonetheless, the leftist gun grabbers will proclaim at some later date that 'this building' was made from melted guns.

It would be more appropriate symbolically if they actually didn't melt them down...and threw them into the concrete pours as whole arms...like the Borg....the arms of the people would be assimilated into the collective....

"We will fold your swords into our own, and control you with them...kneel before the all mighty state"

We need another Tea Party...


I agree this is mainly a 'swords to ploughshares' political move, and a waste of guns. However it is neither a waste of energy, or likely to result in a inferior & un-useable steel. Recycled steel is a fine product, and very common. Engineers dont spec steel based on its source, but by its properies, which are tested in QA/QC. Recycled structural steel is ALWAYS made from a variety of steel alloys, and it is not difficult to accommodate for this in the foundry.

"Today structural steel is 97% recycled with the primary source of material being automobiles. It is the environmentally sound choice for a building material."
https://www.acsa-arch.org/competitions/0708aisc.aspx

glockman19
09-22-2007, 05:50 PM
You know what Calabasa means in Spanish? It means Pumpkin..in other words they have no brains inside.

LOL :rofl2:

I understand they're fun to shoot too. :18:

Don't you just hate it when they take a functioning firearm and ruin it for political posturing?

aarik
09-22-2007, 11:47 PM
calabasASS

Smokeybehr
09-23-2007, 06:07 AM
I agree this is mainly a 'swords to ploughshares' political move, and a waste of guns. However it is neither a waste of energy, or likely to result in a inferior & un-useable steel. Recycled steel is a fine product, and very common. Engineers dont spec steel based on its source, but by its properies, which are tested in QA/QC. Recycled structural steel is ALWAYS made from a variety of steel alloys, and it is not difficult to accommodate for this in the foundry.

"Today structural steel is 97% recycled with the primary source of material being automobiles. It is the environmentally sound choice for a building material."
https://www.acsa-arch.org/competitions/0708aisc.aspx

20 years ago, I went through a tour of a steel plant out in Fontana that was doing exactly that: Melting down scrap cars and making rebar and welding wire. I didn't see anything that wasn't a car part or structural scrap going into the furnace.

AggregatVier
09-23-2007, 09:51 AM
It's not like Calabasas is a hot bed of illegal, gun-running gangs. It's a wealthy, influential, college educated, lawyer-on-retainer community. No where does it say these were guns confiscated in Calabasas. They just used recycled steel a part of which (no percentage given) comes from firearms and no guarantee those were included in the batch they got. The firearms part is the reporter's teaser to get people to read the whole rest of an environmentally commendable but otherwise boring article.

gazzavc
09-23-2007, 02:38 PM
Believe me, I live on the Woodland Hills / Calabasas border, it is boring.

Dull, dull,dull.

Gary