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kaligaran
02-01-2013, 12:51 PM
So I have made the decision and starting the research. I'm a few weeks out from actually starting the build.

I'm going to start small and then expand once I've figured it out. I know there's TONS of info on the web and I'm gradually digging through it.

I'm also going to try to do a non-electric setup. But if that proves compound the complexity exponentially, then I may start with an electric setup and then go non-electric at a later time.

Any of you calgunners playing with aquaponics?

If so, does anyone have any 'lessons learned' or 'tips from the pros' that you would share with for total noobs looking to get their hands wet (pun intended)?

When I get this going (it'll be a couple of weeks for sure) I'll take pictures of the process and make sure to post updates.

Sehoner
02-01-2013, 12:59 PM
Yep. Got two systems.

One growing and the other conditiong.

Ask away. It is actually a whole lot of fun and all kinds of rewarding.

WASR10
02-01-2013, 1:06 PM
I am also looking in to getting one started, hope to learn as such as I can

llamatrnr
02-01-2013, 1:09 PM
Get a worm bed going - look for red wigglers on Craigslist.

How big a system are you going with? Indoor/out? Fish species?

kaligaran
02-01-2013, 1:10 PM
Yep. Got two systems.

One growing and the other conditiong.

Ask away. It is actually a whole lot of fun and all kinds of rewarding.

There's a ton of setup guides I've found online. They look pretty straight forward.

Is there any deviation from the 'common' instructions that you guys have done, if so, why?

Also, is your system electric?

Did you start with a kit or build everything yourself? I'm wanting to start small. It sounds like if you build it yourself you can do it for anywhere from $200-500 for a smaller setup. I'm not too sure what really counts as small... I'm hoping to start up something that's about 8' x 4' ish.

I guess I should admit I do NOT have a green thumb. I can't keep anything in soil alive. I am really hoping that me and my better half can figure it out without killing too much.

kaligaran
02-01-2013, 1:16 PM
Get a worm bed going - look for red wigglers on Craigslist.

How big a system are you going with? Indoor/out? Fish species?

Outdoor in SF Bay area. About 5-8' long by 4'ish feet wide.

I'm not too sure about species yet. That's a bit ahead of my planning. Still trying to dig through the many instructions on building.

Sehoner
02-01-2013, 1:21 PM
8x4 is pretty big to me. I started smallish to figure things out.

I built mine for about 40 bucks, but I did have a lot of the stuff on hand. the most expensive part will be the pump. Personnaly i try to stay away from kits of all kinds.

I have videos and instructions on how I built mine.

PM me email addys and I will send you the links. I am using my phone and long messages on here are a pain.

llamatrnr
02-01-2013, 1:28 PM
Outdoor in SF Bay area. About 5-8' long by 4'ish feet wide.

I'm not too sure about species yet. That's a bit ahead of my planning. Still trying to dig through the many instructions on building.

4x8' beds available from hydroponics shop/Craigslist, as is grow medium (clay balls); best to go with them, imo.

Tilapia are great for aquaponics - grow fast & big (and tasty).. Feed worms and lettuce from the bed. Tilapia will die if water temp hits low 50's, so consider that; perhaps a small "hoop house/greenhouse" to keep temps stable and keep critters away.

We grew tomatoes, lettuce, spinach, watermelon, canteloupe, peppers, eggplant, different herbs, bok choy.

Don't get too technical - throw the seeds in and step back

Sehoner
02-01-2013, 2:39 PM
http://sehoner.blogspot.com/2012/06/v-behaviorurldefaultvmlo.html?m=1

The video is of the system after is was conditioned and filled with fish.

I will post another later today or tomorrow of the revised and current system.

kaligaran
02-01-2013, 3:12 PM
Great info, thanks!

Yeah it definitly gets lower than 50s here so I'll have to get a small greenhouse or something for it.

I'm excited though. If anyone has any other links that you use which may get missed in a google search, please post!

puropuro
02-01-2013, 3:22 PM
Murray Hallum(sp) has a DIY video that uses IBC containers...looks like a great setup for not too much money.

kaligaran
02-01-2013, 3:31 PM
So far I'm really liking the setup in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-mCzjhj0Aw

Pretty slick.
I even found the IBC totes on craigslist (food grade) for $150 delivered!

Damnit! How do these youtube links work to get them to show up in page?

Onetyme
02-01-2013, 3:33 PM
I'm also interested in getting started. Looking forward to reviewing your setup. I'm a few months out.

kaligaran
02-01-2013, 4:24 PM
Ok I think I'm gonna go with the IBC Tote setup.

I have just about priced everything out. My only questionable item (aside from the fish/plants themselves) is the pump.

I would like to build this to be scalable. So I've found pumps for 75-250 gallons and also pond pumps that are up to like 1500 gallons.

Any recommendations for pumps? I would like to find something that allows you to set the tank size so it pumps the right amount.

Thanks!

frigginchi
02-01-2013, 4:37 PM
http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/ :)

kaligaran
02-01-2013, 5:01 PM
http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/ :)

Awesome!

I just discovered this:
http://ibcofaquaponics.com/

Basically the video is a full video on how to use the IBC tub. They also have the video in pdf format with full instructions: http://ibcofaquaponics.com/files/IBCofAquaponics.pdf

I just priced everything out.
I can do this for about $250. And add the solar panels later for another $200 (including battery/inverter).

:D

Sehoner
02-01-2013, 5:04 PM
Get a pump bigger than you need. That way you can expand later.

kaligaran
02-01-2013, 10:33 PM
Get a pump bigger than you need. That way you can expand later.

My thoughts exactly. I have found pumps range anywhere from $50 to $500 so I have to learn what to look for and what makes a good pump.

I haven't found any that are adjustable so you can set either the size of the tank or the amount you want to filter per hour.

Hoping to get some input from veteran aquaponics people. :)

Sehoner
02-01-2013, 11:08 PM
I will get some stuff together and email tomorrow afternoon.

But for now, do you want a submersible or external pump?

Each has its pro's and con's. You can buy a good pump for far less than 500. Depending on volume you should probably be able to stay under 150.

Cheep
02-02-2013, 5:32 AM
Try this. www.ezfarmsandfish.com

xgi1991
02-02-2013, 8:32 AM
a good friend of mine and fellow Calgunner in grass valley has a nice setup, he has several vids on his home page for his setup http://www.youtube.com/user/EndOfTheRoadFamily

wpage
02-02-2013, 1:02 PM
Craigslist.org

kaligaran
02-02-2013, 5:13 PM
I will get some stuff together and email tomorrow afternoon.

But for now, do you want a submersible or external pump?

Each has its pro's and con's. You can buy a good pump for far less than 500. Depending on volume you should probably be able to stay under 150.

Good question, I have no idea.

These are the kinds of things I still haven't figured out.

Been researching fish lately, so far it seems like Carp is the winner. Or at least to start.

The only unknowns at this point are pump and the kind of surface water plants we want.

Getting there. Still have a lot of research to do. Once we've at least decided on a gameplan we'll start aquiring resources and I'll be sure to take tons of pictures and keep everything documented (including price) to slowly make a review for this post.

kaligaran
02-02-2013, 5:14 PM
BTW, thanks for the links and youtube vids. I'll be watching those next!

frigginchi
02-03-2013, 2:30 AM
Get 12 volt bilge pumps. They are cheap and you can set them up to run on an emergency back up battery.

http://www.harborfreight.com/1000-gph-bilge-pump-66095.html

My system I started a couple of years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj_ygc7Bjc8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQWF6aNPVd8

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/423040_372930082814498_693706832_n.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/alphaQup/ChisAquaponics%202011/ChisAquaponics2011034.jpg

Sehoner
02-03-2013, 11:23 AM
^This. Is a nice looking system.

See what I mean by design? You can build it any way and out of almost anything you want.

Email sent Kaligaran.

kaligaran
02-03-2013, 8:28 PM
^This. Is a nice looking system.

See what I mean by design? You can build it any way and out of almost anything you want.

Email sent Kaligaran.

Got your email.

I will go over it all when I get home. I'm sure I"ll have questions. :)

DavidR310
02-03-2013, 8:41 PM
My 2 cents worth of free advice is that llamatrnr is the man, when it comes to this.

bigguns85
03-13-2013, 4:25 AM
My cousin was looking at these to use for missionary work for small villagges. I will forward him this link. What are the best tasting fishes for this? A good fish meal with some salad that their poop grew! sounds wonderful lol.

easy
03-13-2013, 8:52 PM
kaligaran - sent you a PM

wheels
03-13-2013, 10:10 PM
So far I'm really liking the setup in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-mCzjhj0Aw

Pretty slick.
I even found the IBC totes on craigslist (food grade) for $150 delivered!

Damnit! How do these youtube links work to get them to show up in page?

Here's the youtube video trick - in advanced mode (not quick reply) click the little youtube http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/images/editor/youtube.gif button, you will see these two guys show up - [*YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE] - except there won't be an asterisk in the first tag

Then we grab the last part of your youtube URL, the last little block of characters after ?v=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-mCzjhj0Aw

Paste R-mCzjhj0Aw in between the youtube tags

[*YOUTUBE]R-mCzjhj0Aw[/YOUTUBE]

Now we remove the asterisk

R-mCzjhj0Aw

That video certainly shows an easy way to build a tank using an available and reused tank. I'm wondering how much temp swing the talapia can handle to either use direct solar heating of the water or other less direct heating. I do know the mass of water is going to trail significantly the air temp, but prolonged low temps would eventually cool the water.

kaligaran
03-13-2013, 10:52 PM
Thanks!

I am waiting till after I do my taxes. I've decided on the IBC tote setup for sure and found a place that has tons of them cheap close to home.

Got some good info from some people via emails and pm's as well. I'm pretty excited about it, just need to finish up a couple of current projects that are ongoing and then file taxes. I'll be posting my progress when I start for sure. :)