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CRTguns
09-12-2007, 11:10 PM
I have a friend of a friend in a state LE agency. Not bof- He tells me a lot of agents are, or have transferred out. A couple of them, he calls freind- they told him it's cause the place is out of control. No goal in mind- just kinda playing cop at (distal region of the madibula)s will.

Hell, the ***** that tossed my shop left last week from the BOF without so much as an appology. This will make it much more difficult to get him fired and de-badged.

hoffmang
09-12-2007, 11:12 PM
BoF is going to be suffering a set of setbacks over the next couple of months...

I wouldn't want to work there either...

-Gene

Socal858
09-12-2007, 11:15 PM
so i guess BOF now stands for Bored Or Fled?

GSequoia
09-12-2007, 11:18 PM
I wouldn't want to work there either...

I want you to work there.



Change from the inside. :D

WokMaster1
09-13-2007, 7:25 AM
I have a friend of a friend in a state LE agency. Not bof- He tells me a lot of agents are, or have transferred out. A couple of them, he calls freind- they told him it's cause the place is out of control. No goal in mind- just kinda playing cop at (distal region of the madibula)s will.

Hell, the ***** that tossed my shop left last week from the BOF without so much as an appology. This will make it much more difficult to get him fired and de-badged.

Just send him flowers on the anniversary & tell him to stay in touch.......;):D

JesseXXX
09-13-2007, 7:29 AM
I second that...:)

WolfMansDad
09-13-2007, 2:43 PM
BoF is going to be suffering a set of setbacks over the next couple of months...

I wouldn't want to work there either...

-Gene

Do tell! Or do we have to wait until the book comes out?

tango-52
09-13-2007, 3:02 PM
Do tell! Or do we have to wait until the book comes out?

I look forward to reading this novel, while imbibing a nice adult beverage.:D

hoffmang
09-13-2007, 3:22 PM
There will be some news the last week of September.

-Gene

tango-52
09-13-2007, 3:25 PM
There will be some news the last week of September.

-Gene

In Two Weeks!! lol

hoffmang
09-13-2007, 3:27 PM
I didn't mean to, but yeah... TWO WEEKS!

-Gene

HK fan
09-13-2007, 4:07 PM
are they going to announce that they are going to stop trying to circumvent the laws and allow people to have legally configured OLL's?

thedrickel
09-13-2007, 4:12 PM
Gene you are such a tease. You better be careful or we could have another 40 post discussion about how much of a tease you are.

bwiese
09-13-2007, 4:19 PM
Gene is absofrigginlutely NOT teasing.

BoF's gonna get tornadoed by another, um, 'entity'.

Scarecrow Repair
09-13-2007, 4:28 PM
Gene is absofrigginlutely NOT teasing.

He's teasing us here at the office! You guys have it easy :-)

hoffmang
09-13-2007, 4:28 PM
I don't always tease... I've got some special deliveries coming shortly.

-Gene

E__WOK
09-13-2007, 5:59 PM
What's BOF?

hoffmang
09-13-2007, 6:04 PM
Heh. New logo:
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/images/boflogo.jpg

California Department of Justice Bureau of Firearms.

-Gene

GSequoia
09-13-2007, 6:07 PM
What's BOF?

God that'd be a lovely world if people could need to ask that!

:D

carsonwales
09-13-2007, 6:53 PM
There will be some news the last week of September.

-Gene

I hate it when you do that....

PanzerAce
09-13-2007, 6:57 PM
I have a guess *hides under a rock*

and +1 carson.

carsonwales
09-13-2007, 7:16 PM
Heh. New logo:
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/images/boflogo.jpg

California Department of Justice Bureau of Firearms.

-Gene

I like this one better:

http://www.headsuptrading.com/ar/cglogo.jpg

hoffmang
09-13-2007, 7:18 PM
That rules!

-Gene

EastBayRidge
09-13-2007, 7:26 PM
Now THAT would make a great T-shirt. Talk about "regulatory capture"...

Librarian
09-13-2007, 7:26 PM
No disrespect to Churchill or the Tommy gun, but how about replacing them with http://www.calguns.net/images/newcalguns.jpg

LAK Supply
09-13-2007, 7:29 PM
Who is this CRT guy? The BOF tossed your what? Do you feel violated like tubgirl?

hoffmang
09-13-2007, 7:32 PM
No disrespect to Churchill or the Tommy gun, but how about replacing them with http://www.calguns.net/images/newcalguns.jpg

Librarian,

I like letting Kes wear that badge of honor.

-Gene

carsonwales
09-13-2007, 7:44 PM
That rules!

-Gene

Gene use this one as the avatar...I balanced out the white background to match the Calguns background color in the Avatar area...

Looks more pro...

http://www.headsuptrading.com/ar/cglogo2.jpg

swhatb
09-13-2007, 7:57 PM
Did you notice that BOF changed there wording, maybe I never noticed it before, anyways, "...Bureau of Firearms staff will be leaders in providing firearms expertise and information to law enforcement, legislators, and the general public in a comprehensive program to promote legitimate and responsible firearms possession and use by California residents." I guess they aren't there yet.. maybe Calguns.net should offer them membership :p :D

carsonwales
09-13-2007, 8:02 PM
Did you notice that BOF changed there wording, maybe I never noticed it before, anyways, "...Bureau of Firearms staff will be leaders in providing firearms expertise and information to law enforcement, legislators, and the general public in a comprehensive program to promote legitimate and responsible firearms possession and use by California residents." I guess they aren't there yet.. maybe Calguns.net should offer them membership :p :D

It should read:

Bureau of Firearms staff are 'want to be' leaders in providing firearms expertise and information to law enforcement, legislators, and the general public in obfuscatory programs that force legitimate and responsible firearms owners to submit to our will for the greater good and cause."

hoffmang
09-13-2007, 8:17 PM
Carson,

That rules but I'm still getting some weird border - I may go back to white. GSequoia and I both tried to make it transparent too...

-Gene

artherd
09-13-2007, 8:22 PM
I would not trade places with BOF right now for all the tea in China...

HK fan
09-13-2007, 8:23 PM
another entity? Maybe they will go away and there will be no more bureau's at all, like in Texas and Arizona. Just one big DPS.

WokMaster1
09-13-2007, 9:48 PM
I would not trade places with BOF right now for all the tea in China...

Ok, I'll throw in some special mushroom tea from Cyrus in Healdsburg......;)

artherd
09-13-2007, 10:37 PM
Ok, I'll throw in some special mushroom tea from Cyrus in Healdsburg......;)

NOW you're talking! :cool:

blackberg
09-13-2007, 11:45 PM
Try this, supposed to be transparent
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9571/cglogo2gj6.gif

-blackberg

CRTguns
09-14-2007, 12:31 AM
Does this mean I might get my guns back b4 I'm too old to appreciate them? Put in a word if you get a chance. And if there's anything I can do to help, Mr Hoffman, don't hesitate to instruct me. I'm on a sort of "vacation" for the next 2 weeks.

.223
09-14-2007, 2:10 AM
I really hope Gene's not jerking us around and that hell will break loose in the best of ways.

Given his track record, I'm hopeful ;)

hoffmang
09-14-2007, 1:50 PM
Given his track record, I'm hopeful ;)

No need for hope, just a touch of patience.

-Gene

N6ATF
09-14-2007, 3:16 PM
It should read:

Bureau of Firearms staff are 'want to be' leaders in providing firearms expertise and information to law enforcement, legislators, and the general public in obfuscatory programs that force legitimate and responsible firearms owners to submit to our will for the greater good and cause."

Genius.

My pet obfuscatory programs are trigger/cable lock options in the "lock your gun as soon as you buy it, lest feral children storm your bachelor desert compound and get to your guns" regs. From what I read (and can tell by handling these locks), they're easily defeated and counterproductive. Is the point to make you waste money on something you're just going to throw away once you realize a safe is the only logical way to go?

If the regs specified qualifying safes only, I might think there's intelligent people in the gov.

CalNRA
09-14-2007, 3:27 PM
So does that mean our two friends there will be writing parking tickets and directing traffic at a Raider's game any time soon?

hoffmang
09-14-2007, 3:28 PM
Is the point to make you waste money on something you're just going to throw away once you realize a safe is the only logical way to go?

Yes. The anti-gun movement wants to price poor people out of firearms ownership. They are so progressive...

-Gene

EastBayRidge
09-14-2007, 3:31 PM
From what I read (and can tell by handling these locks), they're easily defeated and counterproductive.

So true. The one that came with my S&W 625 literally fell apart about a week after I brought it home. I inserted the key to unlock it, and the whole cable dropped away from the body. What a useless POS.

markymark
09-14-2007, 4:08 PM
I'd like to see "someone" get the boot! :D

bwiese
09-14-2007, 5:38 PM
Is the point to make you waste money on something...

Yep.

The DOJ FD Deputy AG Alison Merrilees apparently approved (via her rapid-growth paper trail) our off-list receiver purchases because she thought no usable rifle could be made from them; she wanted us gunnies to waste our $$$ buying useless metal objects.

That's one vindictive chickadee.

Richard
09-14-2007, 7:13 PM
Heh. New logo:
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/images/boflogo.jpg

California Department of Justice Bureau of Firearms.

-Gene


Better one here:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ro1964/boflogo2.jpg

.223
09-14-2007, 7:51 PM
Better one here:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ro1964/boflogo2.jpg


You, sir, just won the internet.

Smokeybehr
09-15-2007, 8:41 AM
Better one here:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ro1964/boflogo2.jpg

Barney Fife, FTW!

HK fan
09-15-2007, 8:45 AM
thats an insult to Barny Fife!

CSACANNONEER
09-15-2007, 9:34 AM
Barney never shot a desk!

Smokeybehr
09-15-2007, 10:01 AM
Barney never shot a desk!

He'd have to get permission from Sheriff Andy to use that one bullet in his pocket. If the Great Mahogany Hunter had to do the same, desks everywhere would be far safer.

HK fan
09-15-2007, 3:49 PM
BOF has to expect to be kicked in the nutz, especially after the #2 guy resigns in discrace, and you have a drug supervisor arrested for selling Cialis to undercover cops. Pile on their antics with OLL's and underground regulations, hell it makes ME wonder who's in charge. I can image what Jerry Brown is thinking about his department.

bwiese
09-15-2007, 4:48 PM
BOF has to expect to be kicked in the nutz, especially after the #2 guy resigns in discrace,and you have a drug supervisor arrested for selling Cialis to undercover cops.

Those incidences were accociated with DOJ Division of LE folks - not BoF folks in particular. (BOF was the former Firearms Division before its demotion to be a subservient entity to LE Division.)

The latter groups certanly has enough sins to go around without the prospect of additional ones.

HK fan
09-15-2007, 5:40 PM
Those incidences were accociated with DOJ Division of LE folks - not BoF folks in particular. (BOF was the former Firearms Division before its demotion to be a subservient entity to LE Division.)

The latter groups certanly has enough sins to go around without the prospect of additional ones.

Then they are certainly in good company!!

CRTguns
09-15-2007, 11:46 PM
Gene is absofrigginlutely NOT teasing.

BoF's gonna get tornadoed by another, um, 'entity'.

Bill... do you mean... the Crystaline Entity? That'll kick their butts.

N6ATF
09-16-2007, 11:05 PM
Set your self destruct systems.

HK fan
10-02-2007, 5:01 AM
There will be some news the last week of September.

-Gene

Its October now, any good news for us Gene?

Scarecrow Repair
10-02-2007, 8:38 AM
Its October now, any good news for us Gene?

Yes, from 24 September. Pay attention :-)

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=70084

artherd
10-02-2007, 11:41 AM
Yes, that was the whole slant of my letter to her, to seperate the question of reciever legality and firearm legality.

It's completely compliant with existing law.

Yep.

The DOJ FD Deputy AG Alison Merrilees apparently approved (via her rapid-growth paper trail) our off-list receiver purchases because she thought no usable rifle could be made from them; she wanted us gunnies to waste our $$$ buying useless metal objects.

That's one vindictive chickadee.

Anthonysmanifesto
10-02-2007, 3:53 PM
this little nugget popped out at me... (http://www.sacbee.com/101/story/403834.html)

[I]Sacramento sheriff names undersheriff
Published 12:00 am PDT Friday, September 28, 2007
Story appeared in METRO section, Page B2